Two things:

1. Thought we weren't focused on the past (1984)?

2. Thought we weren't focused on the past (2014)?

Oh and...

3. PRINCE WANTS A MEME, DAMMIT (stomps foot, drops mic)!

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I like it!!!


For the first time in a LOOOOOOONG time, I heard a Prince song that stuck in my head and I felt compelled to listen to it over & over again.



I even went back and re-listened to the original AOA version...and confirmed that the new version is superior (IMO at least).



I might just get into Tidal for this...

IstenSzek said:

MIRvmn said:

I'm surprised 3rdeyetunes.com still exists, he hasn't add any new music to the site since 2013?

he probably forgot all about it. yet, someone is still paying for the domain i guess?

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Aren't all his previous domains now occupied by porno or domain squatters? I recall a long list in the late 1990s/early 2000s when you coudl look up domains by the company that registered them and PP had dozens, hundreds,... often song titles etc. Never did anything with them of course.

Finally heard this through nefarious means. Actually a lot better than I was expecting, it does seem a bit throwaway in some ways and I would never describe it as "experimental" but it doesn't totally wreck the song as I had initial assumed it might.

Put that guitar solo in the original, and you might have something indeed.

hollywooddove said:

Put that guitar solo in the original, and you might have something indeed.

Already did and it sounds great!

Too many Josh for my liking.
Pathetic attempt aiming (very poorly) at FKA Twigs in the first seconds, and them aims at nothing.

I can't stand it when there's Skipper's voice popping out every second.
It gets me nausea.

This is the aural hallucination that comes to a coked up yuppie while listening the AOA original,
persuaded he's on top of the world.
What an ugly stock Piano/Strings sound.
The drum pattern is non-existent.

Worst of all, what an ugly way to remind us of this eighties infamy, the beat-breaker effects.
The "us-us-us-us-us" is something that would never get past the mixing process, on any studio on the planet : the producer would ditch it on the spot. But in Princeland®, it ends on the final master.

This is par with the ugliest things he's done in the nineties for his side-acts.

It's a demo for a side-act.
Two chords, some reversed effect, and voilà. Another poop from Prince.

If it's on the album, we have a skipper.

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Let me rephrase.

Here's a poop that HAS to be from Josh.

Oh my, who gave Skipper a nostalgy for the Kirky J. years?
We're in deep shit.

The only contribution from Prince must have been the 30second of solo we have, and it must have been in between two flights.

The rest is pure shit.


And may I add he's getting lazy? I know a Skipper who would've redone the song from scratch (the Holy River remix, Face Down remix, etc.) and add something.

Welcome the Void.

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Polo1026 said:

The last two minutes of this is sublime.

The last two minutes are a very lazy rehash of all the 1978 instrumentals.
A pastiche of "I Wanna Be Your Lover", pt. II.

Don't trust your ears, my friend.

thebiscuit said:

Wow, loving this version. Very trippy. On heavy rotation already. Haven't done that with any new Prince track in a while. Puts me in the same space as Beautiful Ones. Amazing how P and Josh have turned one of AOA's weaker tracks into this sublime little audial journey.

You mean the slowed down R2D2 burps evoke "The Beautiful Ones" electronica to you?
Furthermore, you think this is better than the original?

Come on Josh, don't take it so bad.
We just know you can do better.

iZsaZsa said:

The album version - it's like he's saying it with flowers. Nice. The remix; he's pulling my hair. I like it!

This ain't no "It".

i cant believe so many supposed fans are making such a BIG DEAL over a reworked bonus track that is going to be included on a new release....i think that its a very clever way to tie the new music in with AOA... some that will hear this version may not even know of the previous version....there is still some life in that project if attention is brought to it...however these producers and record promoters here...too much a-do about nothing.

popgodazipa said:

PurpleMedley122 said:

Yeah, we're so spoiled. How dare we want our favorite artist to make music that is of the same quality as his abilities. Come to think of it, it's fans like you that's the reason why he's comfortable releasing such shit music,unable to give constructive criticism and praise everything he does. Like he needs more yes men around him...

I won't go blow for blow..you win. That favorite artist piece is interesting though and if you really mean it you should show your support for his work...its the reason many associated artist (like his current group) and engineers who get to live out their dreams because Prince keeps working his craft. Inspite of the naysayers. [Edited 8/25/15 21:15pm]

Mixing this while keeping a straigth face must be a nightmare.

bonatoc said:

bonatoc said:

The "us-us-us-us-us" is something that would never get past the mixing process, on any studio on the planet : the producer would ditch it on the spot. But in Princeland®, it ends on the final master.

Ok that I completly agree with you. That element is both tacky and cheesy, but overall when compared to the abysmal original mix, which has amatuer written all over it, not that an amatuer would neccesarily be bad, but in that case it sounds like it was put together by a tasteless amatuer. And which likewise would never pass go in any professional studio either. But comparatively speaking, this is a huge upgrade from the original. It's actually listenable and for me enjoyable desipite it's obvious flaws.

So yes it's flawed and Prince needs a true professional talented producer, but at least this version has life and doesnt sound like it was mixed by an old lady who could barely hear.

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thebiscuit said:

bonatoc said:

The last two minutes are a very lazy rehash of all the 1978 instrumentals.
A pastiche of "I Wanna Be Your Lover", pt. II.

Don't trust your ears, my friend.

Well, do you want him to be Prince or not?

Ha! This is where we differ, my friend.

The Skipper I Adore is the one who chooses a clean slate over tracing paper.
I was very sad and disappointed when he disbanded The Revolution, but it brought to The Music SOTT and Lovesexy.

He needs someone like Clare Fischer, an alter-ego, not a buttons pusher.
Have him call Andy Wallace and/or Butch Vig and/or Dave Grohl if he wants to do "PlectrumElectrum" :
you'll get your Rolling Stone's four stars.

Have him call Pharrell, Me'Shell (have him apologize like shit) and Kayne West
if he wants to do AOA (Josh's version is nothing but very good demos and base tracks
of what would have turned into an Album Of The Year
with more months of refinement and scrutiny).

He just got too chicken with time, that's all.
And apparently begs us to scream "cut the bullshit!".

May I prefer the '98 "Hey! Fran-say!" chant from "Love Thy Will Be Done"?
You can hear all his losses in it.
And his victory is just him knowing how to sing and how to play.
It's a big "thank you' sung to his fans, not the vocoded gratuitous "thank you"
that ruins the end of "The Dawn pt. II", which is a studio masterpiece.


This new version is, as Sir Paul McCartney would put it, for no one.

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V10LETBLUES said:

bonatoc said:

The "us-us-us-us-us" is something that would never get past the mixing process, on any studio on the planet : the producer would ditch it on the spot. But in Princeland®, it ends on the final master.

Ok that I completly agree with you. That element is both tacky and cheesy, but overall when compared to the abysmal original mix, which has amatuer written all over it, not that an amatuer would neccesarily be bad, but in that case it sounds like it was put together by a tasteless amatuer.

I disagree. Define abysmal : the arrangements, the overall producing, the sound quality?
The AOA version is reminescent of Skipper's homages to Philly Records.

Other titles in this category include :

- Pink Cashmere

- The Most Beautiful Girl In The World

- Cherry Cherry

- Betcha By Golly Wow!

It's the "good tacky" Prince. Overdone, but just a tad.

But that was then. This is now.


(Damn, even "Now" is a masterpiece compared to this, it's how bad it is)

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djThunderfunk said:

motherfunka said:

I heard this version at Paisley Park back in April. The way Hannah was hyping this song, I guess I don't know what I was expecting, but not this. That same night they played remixes of CLOUDS, FIXURLIFEUP, PRETZELBODYLOGIC, AND BOYTROUBLE. That crap better not be on this album. I'll take REVELATION though.

I'm digging the guitar solo, so, there's that.

Another "guitar solo"...

OMG! Philly Records? Yikes! I hope you are joking. Any music ever recorded is better than anything on AOA. That's dismal.

bonatoc said:

Pass, not to my liking.

I don't care all that much for this remix. I prefer the original. But I'm actually semi-liking Tidal.

bonatoc said:

thebiscuit said:

bonatoc said:
Well, do you want him to be Prince or not?

Ha! This is where we differ, my friend.

The Skipper I Adore is the one who chooses a clean slate over tracing paper.
I was very sad and disappointed when he disbanded The Revolution, but it brought to The Music SOTT and Lovesexy.

He needs someone like Clare Fischer, an alter-ego, not a buttons pusher.
Have him call Andy Wallace and/or Butch Vig and/or Dave Grohl if he wants to do "PlectrumElectrum" :
you'll get your Rolling Stone's four stars.

Have him call Pharrell, Me'Shell (have him apologize like shit) and Kayne West
if he wants to do AOA (Josh's version is nothing but very good demos and base tracks
of what would have turned into an Album Of The Year
with more months of refinement and scrutiny).

He just got too chicken with time, that's all.
And apparently begs us to scream "cut the bullshit!".

May I prefer the '98 "Hey! Fran-say!" chant from "Love Thy Will Be Done"?
You can hear all his losses in it.
And his victory is just him knowing how to sing and how to play.
It's a big "thank you' sung to his fans, not the vocoded gratuitous "thank you"
that ruins the end of "The Dawn pt. II", which is a studio masterpiece.


This new version is, as Sir Paul McCartney would put it, for no one.

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There's so much bullshite in this post I don't even know where to begin..

erik319 said:

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So hilarious, yet so true.

!!!

iZsaZsa said:

bonatoc said:

This ain't no "It".

This is "It". If you want a lot of talk then you listen to the original. If you're ready for some action, that's the remix - "Show me."

I see your point, but... meh. I'm hetero as they get,
but I confess I would have show anything to eighties Prince.

56 year old Skipper, I dunno.

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Ick, I don't like it. I don't know why Prince felt it was necessary to ruin a perfectly good song by doing a "new" version. Message to Prince: If it ain't broke, don't try to fix it.

bonatoc said:

this ain't a patch on the original. It shoulda been made as a new song because theres some interesting sounds. Unfortunately they are ruined by inserting the vocal track of an existing song without, it seems, any reason at all. I get the feeling this experimental album is going to be an experiment in energy degradation. Are Prince and Josh able to create high energy, high tempo music at all? I hope we have enough on the album to raise a pulse. AOA was great, but it did suffer by being pretty slow. If this next one is as slow then the tunes need to be top drawer... So far I haven't heard anything from the same cabinet, let alone the top drawer. Mediocrity isn't going to keep this fans attention, not this time.

So the same mediocre, by the numbers ballad only with Josh decorations and candy sprinkled on it? Not sure what Prince is trying to do here. The song wasn't that great to start with and all the studio effects and looping and tricks can't fix a boring, basic lack of songwriting.

Seems like a waste of time and album space to me and hardly the sort of thing that can generate interest and hype. Whoop dee fucking doo.