jdcxc said:

blackbob said:

one thing you say about prince....he aint boring ...looking at all the statements about this release and the mess of a paisley park publicity event for the new album and managing to piss off hundreds of journalists in the process....i think we can safety say that prince will be having nightly arguments with the other prince inside prince's head about all this...

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Lol. Prince is pushing 60 and has been in this game for 40 years, it's amazing that he has any shred of relevancy left. The music biz is for teens. These HOF artists came out with P. Bart wouldn't answer, but which career would you trade for Prince? Tom Petty ACDC Elvis Costello Jackson Browne Bob Seger Sting ZZ Top Pretenders U2 Blonde REM Van Halen Patti Smith

I'm not sure what you mean by "trade for Prince"--but I'd say Elvis has done pretty well in my book. Never huge commercially, but decent, strong artistically, keeps moving. And I like a large amount of his work, and while he hasn't always burned as hot, he's still at the least warm.

Sting... well, there was a time when I followed everything very closely, but I kind of just fell off. I don't know whether he did, but I haven't kept up so I can't judge later career.

The rest I know a few high points, but not enough to judge their careers.

dadeepop said:

KingSausage said:

dadeepop said: I'll be over here coughing.

Ha. Noted.

Take a lozenge, people. I can't hear the movie.

lastdecember said:

Everything that STREAMS on the itnernet is found all over the place as a free illegal download, this is a stupid idea, just give the thing away at shows if your going to do that. Don't preach you "love to drop the needle" and "vinyl love" and then put out out fucking streams of a "classic album" so you call it.

His WB albums were released on vinyl. So one could presume if the physical version of these albums are with WB they could also get vinyl treatment.

Prince brings this kind of backlash on himself. He really fell off the wagon. He's almost too pitiful to watch (or listen to) these days.

lezama said:

Scarfo said:

This is gonna flop sooo hard. The fallout will be entertaining, because we already know how this is gonna end. Jay Z's "Tidal" is gonna be at odds with Prince because he's gonna back out of promoting the album, and Prince is gonna blame Tidal. Like I said before, I'm not gonna give Prince another penny for his mediocre work. He had nerve to demand and up front sum? Damn.......little foots has some nerve.

I have no idea what this post means..

Then you obviously haven't been paying atention these past 2 decades....just pay attention to how this whole Tidal thing will play out...then all will be revealed, yet again.

2funkE said:

So basically Prince secured upfront payment in exchange for assurances that the album, marketed as for the hardcore Prince fan, would deliver an estimated # of subscriptions to Tidal.

I could be wrong, but Tidal is taking a risk here

mushmackalenta said:

All this fuss about Tidal. I guess I might feel the same way but I subscribe to Tidal and love it. Since I started using a streaming service the amout of money I spend on music has reduced massively. If I were with Spotify I would just cancel and switch. I'm sure there will be a physical release at a later date. Did the they say it was a none restrictive deal? Hopefully we'll Get a tracklist soon and another taste and people might started to get more focus on the album. I can't wait. I love Art Official Age and just have a feeling this will be as good.

I agree with this whole post. I've had Tidal for over a month now in anticipation of Prince dropping an exclusive there. I almost cancelled my subscription the day P's stuff appeared on Apple Music...obviously now I'm thrilled I didn't!

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I was able to get the lossless subscription at half price ($9.99) because of a special promotion for college students (I'm in grad school). I'm not much into music streaming except using Spotify and Pandora for free once in a while. I don't own a smart phone or a tablet; I listen to mp3 an FLAC files on my laptop. I can't really justify my Tidal subscription, but I'm gonna hang onto it at least through September, in case Prince starts putting videos or live streams on there.

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Last week I listened to Dirty Mind and the 1979 album on Tidal, and was blown away by how crystal clear and bright they both sounded! I wish Tidal was a little more social, though. I "favorited" one of the playlists a friend of mine created, and he wasn't even notified of it. Also, the playlist wasn't credited specifically to him, just credited as "created by user." I think that's lazy and lame, so I hope they add more personal touches soon.

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BartVanHemelen said:

KingSausage said:

Plus, what fun is the Org if I can't complain about shit? THAT is an Internet tradition in of itself.

PurpleSkipper58 said:

Pentacle said:

okay, then it makes no sense.

or are you supportive of Prince placing all his future release exclusively on Tidal, and not releasing them on cd (through WB)?

Yes, it makes sense. WB wants Prince to release what they want him to release, but he doesn't really care. It was a joke, really.

Hardrocklover was licensed to Warner Brothers so I think they are involved in some way, he'll no doubt use them for the physical release to take advantage of their distribution

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EddieC said:

Sting... well, there was a time when I followed everything very closely, but I kind of just fell off. I don't know whether he did, but I haven't kept up so I can't judge later career.

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Sting is actually rich, not pretend-rich like Prince, and he actually does whatever the fuck he wants. Thus he isn't whining to reporters about record companies, because he's too busy releasing an album of him playing the lute and singing traditionals, or writing a play.

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Meanwhile Prince continues to chse the pop charts (and bitches about failing to do so, which is obviously a conspiracy against him for speaking his mind).

fnksoul said:

PurpleSkipper58 said:

Pentacle said: Yes, it makes sense. WB wants Prince to release what they want him to release, but he doesn't really care. It was a joke, really.

Hardrocklover was licensed to Warner Brothers so I think they are involved in some way, he'll no doubt use them for the physical release to take advantage of their distribution

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Where do you see Hardrocklover licensed to WB?

So now that Prince ahs announced that a physical release is coming, will anyone even bother paying to hear it early ?

I won't be.

Marco81 said:

fnksoul said:

Hardrocklover was licensed to Warner Brothers so I think they are involved in some way, he'll no doubt use them for the physical release to take advantage of their distribution

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Where do you see Hardrocklover licensed to WB?

Weird, as this is what I see on iTunes:

Marco81 said:

Weird, as this is what I see on iTunes:

Is a little strange, mine come from Tidal.

BartVanHemelen said:

EddieC said:

Sting... well, there was a time when I followed everything very closely, but I kind of just fell off. I don't know whether he did, but I haven't kept up so I can't judge later career.

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Sting is actually rich, not pretend-rich like Prince, and he actually does whatever the fuck he wants. Thus he isn't whining to reporters about record companies, because he's too busy releasing an album of him playing the lute and singing traditionals, or writing a play.

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Meanwhile Prince continues to chse the pop charts (and bitches about failing to do so, which is obviously a conspiracy against him for speaking his mind).

Dude, you've been periodically predicting Prince's imminent financial demise since I first read your posts way back in the 1990s. The truth is that you have always acted like you knew what was going on with the $$$$ but you don't. You're just guessing most forcefully (and wishfully) than others.

fnksoul said:

Marco81 said:

Weird, as this is what I see on iTunes:

Is a little strange, mine come from Tidal.

Interesting that the record may be licensed to WB, I don't think Tidal would get this wrong.

fnksoul said:

I think I'll wait for a physical release.

BartVanHemelen said:

EddieC said:

Sting... well, there was a time when I followed everything very closely, but I kind of just fell off. I don't know whether he did, but I haven't kept up so I can't judge later career.

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Sting is actually rich, not pretend-rich like Prince, and he actually does whatever the fuck he wants. Thus he isn't whining to reporters about record companies, because he's too busy releasing an album of him playing the lute and singing traditionals, or writing a play.

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Meanwhile Prince continues to chse the pop charts (and bitches about failing to do so, which is obviously a conspiracy against him for speaking his mind).

pretend rich ?...come on bart..your posts usually have an element of truth in them but i doubt very much prince is short of a few bob...he remains one of the biggest live draws in the world...and his recent tours must have made him a lot of money as he sure doesnt spend much on elaborate stage productions like he used to and travels with a bare minimum of staff now.

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warning2all said:

The only WB involvement was an agreement to release remaster, beginning with PR. Additionally WB agreed to take on AOA and "Plectrum Electrum". There is no evidence of any agreement beyond this

Is there any evidence to state that only the above was part of the deal?....


He signed a licensing deal with them, which could include what ever they agreed on, as you state, no evidence of exactly what this is.


I doubt an official release on Tidal would state its licenced to Warner if it wasnt since Prince is obviously working closely with them.


The press release actually just stated "We are very excited about the release of New and Remastered music"

A Licensing deal is different from a Record deal, he can license his music to them to release and distribute but they wouldnt "Own" it.

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BartVanHemelen said:

blackbob said:

PurpleMedley122 said:

blackbob said:

pretend rich ?...come on bart..your posts usually have an element of truth in them but i doubt very much prince is short of a few bob...he remains one of the biggest live draws in the world...and his recent tours must have made him a lot of money as he sure doesnt spend much on elaborate stage productions like he used to and travels with a bare minimum of staff now.

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Yeah, he is so rich that a few years ago he was struggling to pay his taxes: http://m.startribune.com/...37347.html and had to do a quick few shows to raise the 1.3 million he owed. http://m.startribune.com/...3LGDiO7aiU

Bet he asked to see the copy of this Taxes "contract"

BartVanHemelen said:

PurpleMedley122 said:

PurpleMedley122 said:

Yeah, he is so rich that a few years ago he was struggling to pay his taxes:

Well, Sting in 1980 became a tax exile in Ireland to pay less taxes.