PurpleMedley122 said:

blackbob said:

PurpleMedley122 said:

Yeah, he is so rich that a few years ago he was struggling to pay his taxes: http://m.startribune.com/...37347.html and had to do a quick few shows to raise the 1.3 million he owed. http://m.startribune.com/...3LGDiO7aiU

. Nonsense...maybe he had some cash flow problems in the 90s but prince is worth at least a few hundred million...he just doesnt like paying bills...like most of us..

Exactly, its suprising how many celebs you hear who owe taxes, they just dont like paying the lump sum when it comes to it after they havent paid them for so long. Doing a couple of shows to pay it is nothing to him.


Look at 50 Cent, declared bankrupcy to try and delay paying a few million he was sued for when in actual fact he's worth £100m+ it just meant he could have bought himself up to 2 years delay to pay it..... as it turned out they decided he could afford it and slapped more ontop for being a Douche

jdcxc said:

BartVanHemelen said:

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Sting is actually rich, not pretend-rich like Prince, and he actually does whatever the fuck he wants. Thus he isn't whining to reporters about record companies, because he's too busy releasing an album of him playing the lute and singing traditionals, or writing a play.

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Meanwhile Prince continues to chse the pop charts (and bitches about failing to do so, which is obviously a conspiracy against him for speaking his mind).

Sting has released four boring albums over the last twelve years. One was a "reinterpretation" of his old hits. He rarely tours and is not really engaged in being a musician let alone "whining to reporters."

That is a question of taste isn't it. I love the lute and winter album.

Oh, and they resurrected The Police, something that should appeal to all the Revolution-reunion supporters. Fun for the fans, fun & a lot of cash for the band, and Sting could stay on his own musical course.
See, Prince, it ain't that hard.

jdcxc said:

Or this... 1. Album is tight, interesting musically and funky

Well, we'd all love that after twenty years.

Prince doesn`t like paying bills or taxes...does not mean he has not enough money

The concerts i have been the last years where either sold out or very packed....

And this with an announcement just some days before like in vienna...

Of course i would prefer to have him release his album just the way he did with AOA...

make it available on every platform in physical and digital form...

But it seems this time he wants to make a statement again...this time for a "fair" streaming what he thinks

Tidal is doing...

I hope we get a physical release or download possibility via Warner/ iTunes/ Amazon...

maybe Tidal just gets the exclusive right to stream the album...

Pentacle said:

jdcxc said:

BartVanHemelen said: Sting has released four boring albums over the last twelve years. One was a "reinterpretation" of his old hits. He rarely tours and is not really engaged in being a musician let alone "whining to reporters."

That is a question of taste isn't it. I love the lute and winter album.

Oh, and they resurrected The Police, something that should appeal to all the Revolution-reunion supporters. Fun for the fans, fun & a lot of cash for the band, and Sting could stay on his own musical course.
See, Prince, it ain't that hard.

Although i love Sting he doesn`t have the star power or visibility in the media as Prince does....

AOA reached the top ten everywhere and was a critical success, so i hope HITNRUN will be as good as AOA...

Unless we get a release date for a physical release that is close to the TIDAL release date, this will be the first Prince album that I will just wait and see and read the reviews before I make a decision about joining TIDAL.

sheilaE4eva said:

Unless we get a release date for a physical release that is close to the TIDAL release date, this will be the first Prince album that I will just wait and see and read the reviews before I make a decision about joining TIDAL.

You get a month free, so why not just listen and decide for yourself? That's what I'm going to do, I'm certainly not paying for a streaming service as I don't listen to nearly enough music to make it worthwhile.

I'll 100% buy it if it's made avaiable for keeps, but in the mean time I'll record it from Tidal using my trial, burn a CD for the car and put it on my iPhone. I'd like to give my money to Prince for it, I don't care if it's a CD or not, I didn't buy physical versions of AOA or PE but at the earliest possible chance I'll buy it.

PurpleMedley122 said:

blackbob said:

pretend rich ?...come on bart..your posts usually have an element of truth in them but i doubt very much prince is short of a few bob...he remains one of the biggest live draws in the world...and his recent tours must have made him a lot of money as he sure doesnt spend much on elaborate stage productions like he used to and travels with a bare minimum of staff now.

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Yeah, he is so rich that a few years ago he was struggling to pay his taxes: http://m.startribune.com/...37347.html and had to do a quick few shows to raise the 1.3 million he owed. http://m.startribune.com/...3LGDiO7aiU

rich folks hold out on taxes all the time..they could have valuation issus etc...wants to negotiate a better deal etc..he is probably one of the largest tax payers in that county

TheEnglishGent said:

sheilaE4eva said:

Unless we get a release date for a physical release that is close to the TIDAL release date, this will be the first Prince album that I will just wait and see and read the reviews before I make a decision about joining TIDAL.

You get a month free, so why not just listen and decide for yourself? That's what I'm going to do, I'm certainly not paying for a streaming service as I don't listen to nearly enough music to make it worthwhile.

I'll 100% buy it if it's made avaiable for keeps, but in the mean time I'll record it from Tidal using my trial, burn a CD for the car and put it on my iPhone. I'd like to give my money to Prince for it, I don't care if it's a CD or not, I didn't buy physical versions of AOA or PE but at the earliest possible chance I'll buy it.

Good points and I probably will. I'm just leery of those free trial stunts. Back in the good ole days, the TIDAL subscription might be a good investment, but I just don't buy music that much anymore so I'm having a hard time justifying paying a monthly subscription.

Moonbeam said:

I think I'll wait for a physical release.

I definitely will do the same, since I have no need for Tidal's services at all.

tatocorcu said:

Did we all use the trial period to listen to the Baltimore gig or was that a free event? I can't remember...

You didn't have to formally sign up for it to see that show. It was available to stream on the welcome page.

Aerogram said:

BartVanHemelen said:

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Sting is actually rich, not pretend-rich like Prince, and he actually does whatever the fuck he wants. Thus he isn't whining to reporters about record companies, because he's too busy releasing an album of him playing the lute and singing traditionals, or writing a play.

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Meanwhile Prince continues to chse the pop charts (and bitches about failing to do so, which is obviously a conspiracy against him for speaking his mind).

Dude, you've been periodically predicting Prince's imminent financial demise since I first read your posts way back in the 1990s. The truth is that you have always acted like you knew what was going on with the $$$$ but you don't. You're just guessing most forcefully (and wishfully) than others.

I feel like your the obsessional type, right? If it's not Prince, it's Bart. Get over your hard-on and move on.

sheilaE4eva said:

TheEnglishGent said:

You get a month free, so why not just listen and decide for yourself? That's what I'm going to do, I'm certainly not paying for a streaming service as I don't listen to nearly enough music to make it worthwhile.

I'll 100% buy it if it's made avaiable for keeps, but in the mean time I'll record it from Tidal using my trial, burn a CD for the car and put it on my iPhone. I'd like to give my money to Prince for it, I don't care if it's a CD or not, I didn't buy physical versions of AOA or PE but at the earliest possible chance I'll buy it.

Good points and I probably will. I'm just leery of those free trial stunts. Back in the good ole days, the TIDAL subscription might be a good investment, but I just don't buy music that much anymore so I'm having a hard time justifying paying a monthly subscription.

Exactly the same as me, I'm sure I would have loved a streaming service 20 years ago but now it just isn't worth the money.

I definitely don't believe Prince is in any sort of financial hardship. In fact, I estimate he's got at least over 100 million in the bank. So if he wants/wanted to, he could had (should had) paid off any owed taxes. If Prince wants to be a baffoon, then fine. They would do to him exactly how they done Wesley Snipes. I definitely wouldn't lose any sleep over it!

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thedoorkeeper said:

OK I've accepted the streamless release & hope someday to see a physical edition. Question now is - how's he going to promote it? YouTube? TV appearances? Interviews? HITNRUN shows? He got the initial p.r. for the announcement - what's next to bring attention to HITNRUN?

SNL performance 3 months after release is the optimistic choice.

Scarfo said:

I definitely don't believe Prince is in any sort of financial hardship. In fact, I estimate he's got at least over 100 million in the bank. So if he wants/wanted to, he could had (should had) paid off any owed taxes. If Prince wants to be a baffoon, then fine. They would do to him exactly how they done Wesley Snipes. I definitely wouldn't lose any sleep over it!

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big diffence then him and wesley..as my ceo said, u can not pay, you can take deductions which you may or may not be entitled too ectc and they will elt you know..wht wesley did was hide income which is a felony..he is not going in front of a federal judge in any of these matters..it is a gambit on his part that has nothing to do with money

his 2004 tour of america earned nearly 90 million in ticket sales alone...the top grossing tour of the year...prince is far from broke.

well much as some people like to pretend there is no such thing, there is in fact

still the 'carreer/business death by prince'-curse. so it's still possible that Tidal
will go belly up before the album is even released.

blackbob said:

his 2004 tour of america earned nearly 90 million in ticket sales alone...the top grossing tour of the year...prince is far from broke.

You're not hurt are you? I mean, we 'ain't talkinmg about your finances.

Nobody is saying Prince is hard-up. If you wanna start making comparisons, though, he probably 'ain't in the Sting, McCartney league.

EddieC said:

feeluupp said:

This album is said to be co produced by Josh as well... So in the ned it is Josh's doing.

I'm not sure I understand why people are willling to give Josh credit for almost everything in the tracks they work together on. Yes, I know P supposedly didn't perform anything beyond vocals on some tracks on AOA--but I don't think that was the general model, at least from anything they've said. And I don't honestly believe it even when they say it just because they say it. Over- and mis-crediting others is so common, I can't tell anything from that--remember all those NPG and Revolution tracks that had limited or no input from bandmembers. I don't hear anything so stunningly "non-Prince" on AOA that I know it's Josh, and I have yet to hear anyone else make a compelling argument for any particular elements. I'd like to blame him for Funknroll, but I'm not really sure about it.

It just sounds like a Prince album after someone made him listen to some music he hadn't listened to before, and he pulls what he can from relatively little exposure (beyond U Know, of course). Pretty much still Prince, though.

Where did you hear that?

filthyrichyuppie said:

Aerogram said:

Dude, you've been periodically predicting Prince's imminent financial demise since I first read your posts way back in the 1990s. The truth is that you have always acted like you knew what was going on with the $$$$ but you don't. You're just guessing most forcefully (and wishfully) than others.

I feel like your the obsessional type, right? If it's not Prince, it's Bart. Get over your hard-on and move on.

I'm sorry you're upset people are challenging the Prince-is-desperate-for-money narrative that's supposed to explain this deal and every other deal before that but take solace in knowing you're already feeling well enough to patronize others.

tatocorcu said:

TheGhostlyNun said:

tatocorcu said: