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Reply #510 posted 11/23/08 8:45am

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Being one of the millions of Prince's straight fans, I've always had to justify certain things he did to my friends. I also had to omit certain tracks and just not play them because some were hard to digest because of the subliminal homosexual references. With that said, I'm still surprised at this article. This man was always androgynous and always making shit that was cross gender. This is really hypocritical from him and very stupid at this point in his life. Moreover, this makes me actually wonder about his sexuality. I always thought of him as a straight guy who manipulated the system and used sex to sell millions. However, this time around it seems as if he's in denial. Kinda like Bowie, who went from saying how he "fucked his best friend (male) and his friend's wife" to basically "I'm not gay, I hate gays!"

Though, I must say, that everyone is entitled to their opinion. Before all the gay rights people who were gay were considered "abnormal" and were looked down upon. Now that the gay is in and cool, those who do not approve of it are considered to be the abnormal ones and are looked down upon. It just doesn't make sense, because you do not have to agree with everything that's thrown your way. However, you do not have the right to disrespect or harm anyone...

Prince, though, is a fuckin' hypocrite!
[Edited 11/23/08 8:45am]
Kick the old school joint 4 the true funk soldiers.

1. Sign 'o' the Times
2. 1999
3. Dirty Mind
4. Parade
5. Purple Rain
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Reply #511 posted 11/23/08 12:14pm

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IstenSzek said:

in all fairness, the hateful, misinformed and sexist outings of a lot
of orgers on this thread are much more shocking than what prince has
or has not said. i'm simply shocked at the level of ignorance. it's a
shame, but also an eye opener.

you're just finding that out? welcome to the truth about a good portion of the org.
I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that
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Reply #512 posted 11/23/08 12:21pm

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kjamal said:

I am no longer a Prince fan - I have no interest in his music - the only interest I have now is exposing him for the fraud he is – any boycott that I can participate in slamming prince I am totally for it!- which includes asking the radio stations to not support his new music, sending emails / letters to television shows like Ellen since Prince is a homohpobe why should she support him, picketing outside his concerts when he comes to tour,not buying and new music, etc..

Dude, you need to get a life for real. That's a waste of time and money. Hopefully, you'll delete your account from this site too since you're no longer a fan. We don't need no more shit around this place at all.
I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that
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Reply #513 posted 11/23/08 12:32pm

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DetroitMusic said:

Its moments like this, that makes a gay person not want to be gay.I am gay and I wouldn't have it any other way. So its not an issue for me, its an issue for those who spew hate upon ppl who are different than them.

Its not an issue here and "THISISDADAWN" THANK YOU BROTHA!!!
Well said!

We need more folk like you around
DETROIT -TORONTO BABY!!!!

Co-damn-sign. I love being gay but reading all of this shit has been a pure disgrace. I'm a gay Prince fan now and I will always be. As long as he's making great music, I will be here. His views are his and my views are mine. We can co-exist. I can's speak for all of you in here, but I'm doing pretty good so far.
I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that
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Reply #514 posted 11/23/08 12:51pm

pald1

fantasylandmusic said:

pald1 said:



Except that my 'beliefs' are proven fact. Yours are, well...beliefs. I know I shouldn't really respond because you're not even trying to argue...you just want it all to go away so u can close your ears and cuddle up with an imaginary friend. Look, I have nothing against you but please remember that you're talking to an adult who has thought these things through. The first thing you have to do is be honest with yourself. Think about that before responding. I want to hear what you think, not what someone has told you to think. OK?


You know what? This whole thing about fact is nothing more than "physical evidence". And, if you really think about it, "physical evidence" can be something that was tampered with, twisted, and made out to be true when it reallly isn't. I'm a writer as well as a musician. I can write a story so well and come up with so many logical ideas to where it can be deemed as true when, in fact, it's a lie or an opinion. Do yourself a favor and really think about the difference between "fact" and what's the truth. The only bonafide truth is the man we know as JESUS. I totally agree with PRIME. Think about it before you respond.


I've been laughing along at your threads. Thanks for the entertainment. The above line, in bold, is a classic!
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Reply #515 posted 11/23/08 6:28pm

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Anxiety said:

fantasylandmusic said:



Well, think about the fact that you're living and breathing. That should be enough proof right there. We're alive!!! GOD created us. Think about it. And, whatever scientic explanation you want to conjure up, just remember this: science is (at least physics and evolution) is supposed to provide logical explanations as to how we're all here. Think about this, someone or something had to start it all. Someone or something had to start the process. It had to start somewhere. Think about it. This is where faith provide all of the answers as opposed to the limited explanations that science has to offer. Now, shouldn't that provide you with the proof you need to realize that GOD exists and that He is the Creator of all (including science)? Think about it. Get real and GET SAVED!


Christianity does not hold a monopoly on the concept of a higher power, as much as many Christians would love to hold that copyright. Just because you have an unshakeable faith - which is great - doesn't mean that other people don't have their beliefs too, and hold them just as dear as you do yours. You want to have your belief in your god respected, well, people of other faiths (including their faith in no god at all) want to be respected too.


I'm disrespecting any1's beliefs. The person asked me 4 proof that GOD exists and I simply laid it all out. That's it. I respect people's opinions, but, when people come on board and have the guts to express faith in GOD, everything gets taken out of context and we're labeled as hatemongers and out of touch. Now, who's being disrespectful and who's being disrespected?
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Reply #516 posted 11/23/08 6:32pm

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fantasylandmusic said:

Anxiety said:



Christianity does not hold a monopoly on the concept of a higher power, as much as many Christians would love to hold that copyright. Just because you have an unshakeable faith - which is great - doesn't mean that other people don't have their beliefs too, and hold them just as dear as you do yours. You want to have your belief in your god respected, well, people of other faiths (including their faith in no god at all) want to be respected too.


I'm not disrespecting any1's beliefs. The person asked me 4 proof that GOD exists and I simply laid it all out. That's it. I respect people's opinions, but, when people come on board and have the guts to express faith in GOD, everything gets taken out of context and we're labeled as hatemongers and out of touch. Now, who's being disrespectful and who's being disrespected?
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Reply #517 posted 11/23/08 6:39pm

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Anxiety said:

fantasylandmusic said:



Well, think about the fact that you're living and breathing. That should be enough proof right there. We're alive!!! GOD created us. Think about it. And, whatever scientic explanation you want to conjure up, just remember this: science is (at least physics and evolution) is supposed to provide logical explanations as to how we're all here. Think about this, someone or something had to start it all. Someone or something had to start the process. It had to start somewhere. Think about it. This is where faith provide all of the answers as opposed to the limited explanations that science has to offer. Now, shouldn't that provide you with the proof you need to realize that GOD exists and that He is the Creator of all (including science)? Think about it. Get real and GET SAVED!


Christianity does not hold a monopoly on the concept of a higher power, as much as many Christians would love to hold that copyright. Just because you have an unshakeable faith - which is great - doesn't mean that other people don't have their beliefs too, and hold them just as dear as you do yours. You want to have your belief in your god respected, well, people of other faiths (including their faith in no god at all) want to be respected too.


Disregard my first response 2 your message. There's a typo in it. But, I'm not disrespecting any1's belief. The person simply asked me 4 proof that GOD exists and I laid it all out. It's like the minute some1 express a strong faith and belief in GOD, things are taken out of context on this forum. What's up with that? 1 thing I don't have the mindset nor the heart 2 do is disrespect some1 or their belief. But, the minute some1 talks about GOD, it seems all hell decide 2 break loose. Now, who's being disrespectful and who's being disrespected?
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Reply #518 posted 11/23/08 6:43pm

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pald1 said:

fantasylandmusic said:



You know what? This whole thing about fact is nothing more than "physical evidence". And, if you really think about it, "physical evidence" can be something that was tampered with, twisted, and made out to be true when it reallly isn't. I'm a writer as well as a musician. I can write a story so well and come up with so many logical ideas to where it can be deemed as true when, in fact, it's a lie or an opinion. Do yourself a favor and really think about the difference between "fact" and what's the truth. The only bonafide truth is the man we know as JESUS. I totally agree with PRIME. Think about it before you respond.


I've been laughing along at your threads. Thanks for the entertainment. The above line, in bold, is a classic!


I've been laughing at the fact that U just put in bold only 1 sentence and not the next 1 that followed. U C, a point was being made there. Obviously, U missed it. Next time, put the other sentences in bold. Maybe, U'll get what I'm saying 2 U. By the way, I get paid 2 entertain. I educate people 4 free. Think about it.
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Reply #519 posted 11/23/08 9:09pm

pald1

fantasylandmusic said:

pald1 said:



I've been laughing along at your threads. Thanks for the entertainment. The above line, in bold, is a classic!


I've been laughing at the fact that U just put in bold only 1 sentence and not the next 1 that followed. U C, a point was being made there. Obviously, U missed it. Next time, put the other sentences in bold. Maybe, U'll get what I'm saying 2 U. By the way, I get paid 2 entertain. I educate people 4 free. Think about it.


And so you should be paid to entertain. You're a laugh riot!
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Reply #520 posted 11/23/08 11:26pm

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This WHOLE Thread is a laugh riot rolleyes

and y'all just have to keep it going when it should have died a slow death already....


Please, I beg ot u...take it over to P&R and leave the rest of us our SANITY!!! pray pray
PRINCE IS WATCHING U evillol" When an Artist Creates, whatever they create belongs to society"chocolate chocolate chocolate chocolate chocolate chocolate chocolate

U can't polish a turd.. but u can roll it in glitter
In my Profile Pic
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Reply #521 posted 11/23/08 11:28pm

pald1

chillichocaholic said:

This WHOLE Thread is a laugh riot rolleyes

and y'all just have to keep it going when it should have died a slow death already....


Please, I beg ot u...take it over to P&R and leave the rest of us our SANITY!!! pray pray


Whatever
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Reply #522 posted 11/24/08 1:26am

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fantasylandmusic said:



Disregard my first response 2 your message. There's a typo in it. But, I'm not disrespecting any1's belief. The person simply asked me 4 proof that GOD exists and I laid it all out. It's like the minute some1 express a strong faith and belief in GOD, things are taken out of context on this forum. What's up with that? 1 thing I don't have the mindset nor the heart 2 do is disrespect some1 or their belief. But, the minute some1 talks about GOD, it seems all hell decide 2 break loose. Now, who's being disrespectful and who's being disrespected?

Next time, feel free to use the edit function.
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Reply #523 posted 11/24/08 3:09am

Aloisio

I hope Purple Rain will be Sarah Palin's song in the 2012 campaign trail. We are the ones who follow God. NPG, GOP.
In God we trust.
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Reply #524 posted 11/24/08 4:29am

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purplecam said:

IstenSzek said:

in all fairness, the hateful, misinformed and sexist outings of a lot
of orgers on this thread are much more shocking than what prince has
or has not said. i'm simply shocked at the level of ignorance. it's a
shame, but also an eye opener.

you're just finding that out? welcome to the truth about a good portion of the org.



well, i had an idea already biggrin but i used to stay away from these types
of discussions. this time i stuck around, sadly.
and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
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Reply #525 posted 11/24/08 11:47pm

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chillichocaholic said:

This WHOLE Thread is a laugh riot rolleyes

and y'all just have to keep it going when it should have died a slow death already....


Please, I beg of u...take it over to P&R and leave the rest of us our SANITY!!! pray pray


bow bow
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Reply #526 posted 11/25/08 9:31am

pald1

purplesweat said:

chillichocaholic said:

This WHOLE Thread is a laugh riot rolleyes

and y'all just have to keep it going when it should have died a slow death already....


Please, I beg of u...take it over to P&R and leave the rest of us our SANITY!!! pray pray


bow bow


Whatever
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Reply #527 posted 11/25/08 11:38pm

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pald1 said:

purplesweat said:



bow bow


Whatever

Whatever
PRINCE IS WATCHING U evillol" When an Artist Creates, whatever they create belongs to society"chocolate chocolate chocolate chocolate chocolate chocolate chocolate

U can't polish a turd.. but u can roll it in glitter
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Reply #528 posted 11/26/08 7:31am

pald1

chillichocaholic said:

pald1 said:



Whatever

Whatever



How do you complain about the continuation of this thread? You keep adding complaints to it. Genius!
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Reply #529 posted 11/26/08 7:42am

tonys

it's funny how people get so carried away with this thing. Did prince say he hated gay people? No. Did prince say he wanted them to die? No. He simply stated he does not believe homosexuality is right. Like I could say I don't believe eating meat is right. Personal belief. Is he a hypocrite? No, unless he is gay right now. Just because you had a particular set of ideas doesn't mean you can't change your mind. If you at one point believed Bush was a good president and changed your mind are you a hypocrite? No. People are allowed to grow and change. It's called free will. So please grow up.
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Reply #530 posted 11/26/08 5:23pm

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pald1 said:

chillichocaholic said:


Whatever



How do you complain about the continuation of this thread? You keep adding complaints to it. Genius!

Of course Im a genius hmph! And I was complaining about the church chat atually lol U might want to buy ureself a sense of humor to go with the whatever lol and the chip ure carrying around on ure shoulder lol
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PRINCE IS WATCHING U evillol" When an Artist Creates, whatever they create belongs to society"chocolate chocolate chocolate chocolate chocolate chocolate chocolate

U can't polish a turd.. but u can roll it in glitter
In my Profile Pic
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Reply #531 posted 11/26/08 5:44pm

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chillichocaholic said:

pald1 said:




How do you complain about the continuation of this thread? You keep adding complaints to it. Genius!

Of course Im a genius hmph! And I was complaining about the church chat atually lol U might want to buy ureself a sense of humor to go with the whatever lol and the chip ure carrying around on ure shoulder lol
[Edited 11/26/08 17:24pm]


masochist
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Reply #532 posted 11/26/08 5:53pm

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pald1 said:

chillichocaholic said:


Of course Im a genius hmph! And I was complaining about the church chat atually lol U might want to buy ureself a sense of humor to go with the whatever lol and the chip ure carrying around on ure shoulder lol
[Edited 11/26/08 17:24pm]


masochist

Whatevaaaaa falloff cartman
PRINCE IS WATCHING U evillol" When an Artist Creates, whatever they create belongs to society"chocolate chocolate chocolate chocolate chocolate chocolate chocolate

U can't polish a turd.. but u can roll it in glitter
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Reply #533 posted 11/27/08 6:15am

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I don't get it. He says that certain thngs are not in the bible. Then points to it for his answer. I don't recall gay rights mentioned in the Bible. I know he's a JW now, but there was a time he'd be sticking it wherever and doing it with whatever. confused


I understand people change their views at points in their life(I don't agree with his though) but why did he still sing Controversy on the last tour...
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Reply #534 posted 11/27/08 6:46am

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Shorty said:

I never really understood why Prince won't let reporters use tape recorders and then acts surprised when they misquote him....
either way sounds like Prince is a republican. lol hehehe

oh AND this article is from the future? November 24th? today is only the 17th. confused
[Edited 11/17/08 9:43am]


I just don't think he trusts himself, like he never knows what will come out of his mouth at times so he says no tape recorder so he can always use the 'I was misquoted' excuse...
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Reply #535 posted 11/27/08 6:51am

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NewSystem said:

It's amazing the amount of people who think they are in a position to judge Prince as human being. To use the word hypocrite is crass. If Prince is living a Christian lifestyle now, his past doesn't make him a hypocrite. I used to get drunk at least once a week, now that I have gained Bible knowledge I no longer abuse alcohol. Does that make me a hypocrite? Of course not! People can and do change. confused



I agree with you people change but Prince is a hypocrite as he does stuff now that contradicts what he is supposed to believe in now. It doesn't bother me that much I accept he is a hypocrite, to be honest I just like his music and have him down in my head as an 'unpredictable musical wonder'
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Reply #536 posted 11/27/08 7:09am

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themusicthatcounts said:

superspaceboy said:

I don't get it. He says that certain thngs are not in the bible. Then points to it for his answer. I don't recall gay rights mentioned in the Bible. I know he's a JW now, but there was a time he'd be sticking it wherever and doing it with whatever. confused


I understand people change their views at points in their life(I don't agree with his though) but why did he still sing Controversy on the last tour...


gay has 2 meanings? maybe he feels comfy refering to himself as gay as in happy, & straight as in straight(laced) shrug
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Reply #537 posted 11/27/08 7:13am

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themusicthatcounts said:

NewSystem said:

It's amazing the amount of people who think they are in a position to judge Prince as human being. To use the word hypocrite is crass. If Prince is living a Christian lifestyle now, his past doesn't make him a hypocrite. I used to get drunk at least once a week, now that I have gained Bible knowledge I no longer abuse alcohol. Does that make me a hypocrite? Of course not! People can and do change. confused



I agree with you people change but Prince is a hypocrite as he does stuff now that contradicts what he is supposed to believe in now. It doesn't bother me that much I accept he is a hypocrite, to be honest I just like his music and have him down in my head as an 'unpredictable musical wonder'


thts nice - he's certainly that!..he shocked the stuffing outta those tht branded him boring with 'turn me loose' cool
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Reply #538 posted 11/27/08 7:53am

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pald1 said:

fantasylandmusic said:



I've been laughing at the fact that U just put in bold only 1 sentence and not the next 1 that followed. U C, a point was being made there. Obviously, U missed it. Next time, put the other sentences in bold. Maybe, U'll get what I'm saying 2 U. By the way, I get paid 2 entertain. I educate people 4 free. Think about it.


And so you should be paid to entertain. You're a laugh riot!


So, pay me & shut up!!!! & if U respond 2 this, I feel sorry 4 U since U're doing this just get your little 15 seconds of attention.
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Reply #539 posted 11/27/08 8:06am

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lottielooloo1968 said:

themusicthatcounts said:



I understand people change their views at points in their life(I don't agree with his though) but why did he still sing Controversy on the last tour...


gay has 2 meanings? maybe he feels comfy refering to himself as gay as in happy, & straight as in straight(laced) shrug



U know what? A lot of people in 2day's society don't know that. I remember looking at that definition in Webster's dictionary. I'm glad U pointed that out because maybe this will cause some people 2 actually look up all meanings of the word "gay". I'm str8. Anyway, it is unfortunate that whenever some1 mention the word "gay", it is often associated with homosexuality only and not a state of happiness. I often wonder when did this word have the "homosexual" meaning added 2 it. Several hundreds of years ago, that word only meant "being happy". But, say that word among a crowd of people and the response U get will B very shocking.
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