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PrintableLammastide said: lascantas said: Yeah... We were at a little get-together, and we started to talking to a doctor about the HPV vaccine. Well.. this doctor was saying that 80% of sexually active people had been exposed to HPV! Apparently, the kind that causes cervical cancer DOES NOT produce warts? The kind that causes cancer is asymptomatic, and most people don't even know they have it. Worse, it can lie there dormant and show up when a person's immune system is down or something like that? So that's why is'really important for women to have pap smears throughout their lifetime.. I may have misunderstood some of this.. because we also were told something about the virus "clearing" one's system. So...I'm not sure of a lot of it. I think the HPV vaccine helps protect agains the strains that cause cancer? Oh... also apparently men are most often carriers or something, but also can end-up with cancer?? I was just shocked that 80% had been exposed. Once, I had a slightly irregular pap smear, and the doctor ran an HPV test... I guess that's standard procedure? Well it was all negative, and then my next follow-up pap test was OK. It was nothing, apparently. But it scared me to have a slightly irregular or abnormal.. I can't remember it was their were cell changes or something. But I didn't have any evidence of any STD or infection. I thought Oh.. I'm clear, but according to this other doctor, it can still show up or something later. In other words, just because an HPV test comes back negative, it can still be in your system. Apparently, there are blood tests, but since 80% of people have been exposed, there are some false positives or something? I don't understand it very well, so I'm not sure. I haven't had all that many partners, but... you know I've had more than one! LOL And even if my husband had more partners, he could have exposed me to something without even knowing! So yeah.. I think it's wise to protect oneself...but in the moment of passion, I guess we are careless sometimes. Wow. Yeah, this is all pretty throwing. I need to read up on HPV. I know almost nothing about it, but its link to cervical cancer is terrifying to me. 
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Lammastide said  Ironic that in a statement on sexual ethics you'd invoke a proverb attributed to a figure who, while recalled as wise, was perhaps the most rampant and undiscriminating womanizer in the ancient world.And yet was heartfelt repentant and thusly forgiven of his sin as we can all be. Anyway, I'm not certain if all this is mere bait, but... The overall seroprevalence of HSV-1 in the U.S. is a pretty big 58%; that of HSV-2 is about 17%. By age 50, somewhere near 90% of Americans will have antibodies for one or the other strain of the virus -- no matter how holier than thou they are. Both strains can be transmitted by something as innocuous as a kiss and both can cause genital outbreaks. That said, if infections are a reflection of character, I'd say they pretty much confirm what we should already know and, in consistent faith, believe... especially if we're gonna start prooftexting scripture: "We are all as an unclean thing." -Isaiah 64:6 [Edited 5/15/09 8:04am] Which is why God intended for it to be one man with one woman 4 life and not sleep with eveyone and everything that'll sleep with you. | |
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SCNDLS said: Lammastide said: Wow. Yeah, this is all pretty throwing. I need to read up on HPV. I know almost nothing about it, but its link to cervical cancer is terrifying to me.
I'm glad you've been OK through your ordeals. HPV can also go away entirely on its own. That's fascinating. But how would doctors know if the virus had truly gone away or simply went into an asymptomatic phase with a very low viral load? Ὅσον ζῇς φαίνου
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Lammastide said: SCNDLS said: HPV can also go away entirely on its own. That's fascinating. But how would doctors know if the virus had truly gone away or simply went into an asymptomatic phase with a very low viral load? They can do a biopsy of the cervix on women. There is no test for men at all if I recall correctly. | |
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A human papillomavirus (HPV) is a papillomavirus that infects the skin and mucous membranes of humans. It impacts the health of women far more than it impacts men. Approximately 130 HPV types have been identified. Some HPV types can cause warts (verrucae) or some types of cancer, while others have no symptoms. Most people who become infected with HPV do not know they have it.[1] About 30-40 HPV types are typically transmitted through sexual contact and infect the anogenital region. Some sexually transmitted HPV types may cause genital warts. Persistent infection with "high-risk" HPV types — different from the ones that cause warts — may progress to precancerous lesions and invasive cancer.[citation needed] HPV infection is a cause of nearly all cases of cervical cancer.[2] However most infections with these types do not cause disease. A cervical Pap smear is used to detect cellular abnormalities. This allows targeted surgical removal of condylomatous and/or potentially precancerous lesions prior to the development of invasive cervical cancer. Although the widespread use of Pap testing has reduced the incidence and lethality of cervical cancer in developed countries, the disease still kills several hundred thousand women per year worldwide.[3] HPV vaccines, Gardasil and Cervarix, which prevent infection with some of the sexually transmitted HPV types that cause the most disease may lead to further decreases in the incidence of HPV-induced cancers.[4] HPV testing The HPV test detects many common "low" and "high-risk" HPV genotypes. This test is an important screening option, since a doctor may recommend more frequent Pap testing if the HPV test is positive for "high-risk" HPV. In March 2003, the US FDA approved a "hybrid-capture" test, marketed by Digene, as a primary screening tool for detecting HPV. This test was also approved for use as an adjunct to Pap testing, and may be performed during a routine Pap smear. When patients are screened with both HPV testing and Pap testing the sensitivity reaches 100%. HPV testing can diagnose CIN 2-3 among women older than 30 years.[44] The sensitivity of HPV testing alone was 94.6% and specificity was 94.1%. For patients at similar risk to those in this study (0.4% had CIN 2-3), this leads to a positive predictive value of 6.0% and negative predictive value of 100.0% (click here to adjust these results for patients at higher or lower risk of CIN 2-3). The CDC states on its "STD Facts-HPV Vaccine" page that "An HPV test or a Pap test can tell that a woman may have HPV, but these tests cannot tell the specific HPV type(s) that a woman has."[42] In Australia, a self-sampling HPV DNA test - that women can do at home using an ordinary tampon - is being marketed by Tam Pap. It has been approved by the Therapeutic Goods Administration for distribution in Australia.[citation needed] The recent outcomes in the identification of molecular pathways involved in cervical cancer provide helpful information about novel biomarkers that allow monitoring these essential molecular events in histological or cytological specimens. These biomarkers are likely to improve the detection of lesions that have a high risk of progression in both primary screening and triage settings. E6 and E7 mRNA detection (HPV OncoTect) or p16 cell-cycle protein levels are examples of these new molecular markers. According to published results these markers, which are highly sensitive and specific, allow to identify cells going through malignant transformation. [45] HPV testing in males Although it is possible to test for HPV DNA in men,[46] there are no FDA-approved tests for general screening in the United States[26] or tests approved by the Canadian government[47], since the testing is inconclusive and considered medically unnecessary.[48] Genital warts are the only visible sign of low-risk HPV in men, and can be identified with a visual check of the genital area. These visible growths, however, are the result of non-carcinogenic HPV types. 5% acetic acid (vinegar) is used to identify both warts and squamous intraepithelial neoplasia (SIL) lesions with limited success[26] by causing abnormal tissue to appear white, but most doctors have found this technique helpful only in moist areas, such as the female genital tract.[26] | |
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iinthesky85 said: Lammastide said Ironic that in a statement on sexual ethics you'd invoke a proverb attributed to a figure who, while recalled as wise, was perhaps the most rampant and undiscriminating womanizer in the ancient world.And yet was heartfelt repentant and thusly forgiven of his sin as we can all be. Anyway, I'm not certain if all this is mere bait, but... The overall seroprevalence of HSV-1 in the U.S. is a pretty big 58%; that of HSV-2 is about 17%. By age 50, somewhere near 90% of Americans will have antibodies for one or the other strain of the virus -- no matter how holier than thou they are. Both strains can be transmitted by something as innocuous as a kiss and both can cause genital outbreaks. That said, if infections are a reflection of character, I'd say they pretty much confirm what we should already know and, in consistent faith, believe... especially if we're gonna start prooftexting scripture: "We are all as an unclean thing." -Isaiah 64:6 [Edited 5/15/09 8:04am] Which is why God intended for it to be one man with one woman 4 life and not sleep with eveyone and everything that'll sleep with you. That's my plan screw myself silly carry out as many atrocities as i can conceive of but just before i die i will be very very sorry  What you don't remember never happened | |
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iinthesky85 said: Lammastide said Ironic that in a statement on sexual ethics you'd invoke a proverb attributed to a figure who, while recalled as wise, was perhaps the most rampant and undiscriminating womanizer in the ancient world.And yet was heartfelt repentant and thusly forgiven of his sin as we can all be. Anyway, I'm not certain if all this is mere bait, but... The overall seroprevalence of HSV-1 in the U.S. is a pretty big 58%; that of HSV-2 is about 17%. By age 50, somewhere near 90% of Americans will have antibodies for one or the other strain of the virus -- no matter how holier than thou they are. Both strains can be transmitted by something as innocuous as a kiss and both can cause genital outbreaks. That said, if infections are a reflection of character, I'd say they pretty much confirm what we should already know and, in consistent faith, believe... especially if we're gonna start prooftexting scripture: "We are all as an unclean thing." -Isaiah 64:6 [Edited 5/15/09 8:04am] Which is why God intended for it to be one man with one woman 4 life and not sleep with eveyone and everything that'll sleep with you. 
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iinthesky85 said: Lammastide said Ironic that in a statement on sexual ethics you'd invoke a proverb attributed to a figure who, while recalled as wise, was perhaps the most rampant and undiscriminating womanizer in the ancient world.And yet was heartfelt repentant and thusly forgiven of his sin as we can all be. Anyway, I'm not certain if all this is mere bait, but... The overall seroprevalence of HSV-1 in the U.S. is a pretty big 58%; that of HSV-2 is about 17%. By age 50, somewhere near 90% of Americans will have antibodies for one or the other strain of the virus -- no matter how holier than thou they are. Both strains can be transmitted by something as innocuous as a kiss and both can cause genital outbreaks. That said, if infections are a reflection of character, I'd say they pretty much confirm what we should already know and, in consistent faith, believe... especially if we're gonna start prooftexting scripture: "We are all as an unclean thing." -Isaiah 64:6 [Edited 5/15/09 8:04am] Which is why God intended for it to be one man with one woman 4 life and not sleep with eveyone and everything that'll sleep with you. there is no god!  | |
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Lammastide said: lascantas said: Yeah... We were at a little get-together, and we started to talking to a doctor about the HPV vaccine. Well.. this doctor was saying that 80% of sexually active people had been exposed to HPV! Apparently, the kind that causes cervical cancer DOES NOT produce warts? The kind that causes cancer is asymptomatic, and most people don't even know they have it. Worse, it can lie there dormant and show up when a person's immune system is down or something like that? So that's why is'really important for women to have pap smears throughout their lifetime.. I may have misunderstood some of this.. because we also were told something about the virus "clearing" one's system. So...I'm not sure of a lot of it. I think the HPV vaccine helps protect agains the strains that cause cancer? Oh... also apparently men are most often carriers or something, but also can end-up with cancer?? I was just shocked that 80% had been exposed. Once, I had a slightly irregular pap smear, and the doctor ran an HPV test... I guess that's standard procedure? Well it was all negative, and then my next follow-up pap test was OK. It was nothing, apparently. But it scared me to have a slightly irregular or abnormal.. I can't remember it was their were cell changes or something. But I didn't have any evidence of any STD or infection. I thought Oh.. I'm clear, but according to this other doctor, it can still show up or something later. In other words, just because an HPV test comes back negative, it can still be in your system. Apparently, there are blood tests, but since 80% of people have been exposed, there are some false positives or something? I don't understand it very well, so I'm not sure. I haven't had all that many partners, but... you know I've had more than one! LOL And even if my husband had more partners, he could have exposed me to something without even knowing! So yeah.. I think it's wise to protect oneself...but in the moment of passion, I guess we are careless sometimes. Wow. Yeah, this is all pretty throwing. I need to read up on HPV. I know almost nothing about it, but its link to cervical cancer is terrifying to me.
I'm glad you've been OK through your ordeals. Real quick, let me tell you what happened! 
It happened a few years ago. My doctor's OFFICE.. the NURSE calls me to tell me my result was slightly abnormal--or undetermined. The the nurse says, my doctor ran an HPV test, and it was all negative, so come back in a year!
I'm just going "What"? and HPV test?  Why??  The nurse said, "it's fine no problem. Come back in a year."
Well.. I was still scared. So I called back to see if I could have a follow-up earlier because I was nervous. And I was told that the procedure was usually to wait a year--not require a 6-month follow-up. But since I was nervous about it, then I could come back in 6 months. Sure enough. Everything was fine. Normal. I read a little about, and apparently a lot of things can cause this slightly abnormal or "underdetermined" result... like having sex too soon before your visit or even wearing a tampon!
HOWEVER, HPV can cause it, too, so that's why they did that test. Oh.. another thing about the HPV vaccine..the doctor (at the party, not my personal doctor) talking it about said, it's necessarily for young girls to have the vaccine BEFORE becoming sexually active because if they are sexually active--even one time--they could already be exposed to the virus. This doctor was obviously advocating the HPV vaccine, so.....  | |
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iinthesky85 said: Lammastide said Ironic that in a statement on sexual ethics you'd invoke a proverb attributed to a figure who, while recalled as wise, was perhaps the most rampant and undiscriminating womanizer in the ancient world.And yet was heartfelt repentant and thusly forgiven of his sin as we can all be. (  Well, textually we don't see Solomon's repentance, but...)
Amen! ...And as a function of that forgiveness, we're instructed, "For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more." -Heb. 8:12 Strange, then, that some of us professing to know this God would remember, choosing to gauge a person's character by the fallout of past endeavors -- not even knowing if, in fact, those particular endeavors were sinful at all. 
Anyway, I'm not certain if all this is mere bait, but... The overall seroprevalence of HSV-1 in the U.S. is a pretty big 58%; that of HSV-2 is about 17%. By age 50, somewhere near 90% of Americans will have antibodies for one or the other strain of the virus -- no matter how holier than thou they are. Both strains can be transmitted by something as innocuous as a kiss and both can cause genital outbreaks. That said, if infections are a reflection of character, I'd say they pretty much confirm what we should already know and, in consistent faith, believe... especially if we're gonna start prooftexting scripture: "We are all as an unclean thing." -Isaiah 64:6 Which is why God intended for it to be one man with one woman 4 life and not sleep with eveyone and everything that'll sleep with you.  Giving you the benefit of the doubt, I'll assume you are at least as smart as I am. You must, then, be decidedly missing the point -- so this'll be the last time I make it: One can spread either strain of the virus to their 5-year-old niece with a simple kiss... she can then spread it to, say, her Sunday school teacher with a simple kiss... she can then spread it to her husband with a monogamous sex act or a simple kiss. The assumption of sexual promiscuity at the occurrence of the virus is not only some backwards countrybama-type stuff these days, but it makes vulnerable those who assume they are somehow removed from it by way of their certain "character."
It's quite enough to champion monogamy on grounds of faith and praxis. I believe Christians are called to do so. But it's quite one's own silly, faithless innovation to 1) make the occurrence or absence of an easily spread bug the gauge to another's monogamy; and 2) ascribe their assumed shortcoming to some statement of their intrinsic fallen character, somehow inexplicably more implicated than the fallenness of us all. Dangerous stuff. But, hey, get back to me when you're 50, bro. I pray we don't have to, but perhaps we'll chat "character" over Western blots and surprised reactions. [Edited 5/16/09 11:47am] Ὅσον ζῇς φαίνου
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lascantas said: Lammastide said: Wow. Yeah, this is all pretty throwing. I need to read up on HPV. I know almost nothing about it, but its link to cervical cancer is terrifying to me.
I'm glad you've been OK through your ordeals. Real quick, let me tell you what happened!
It happened a few years ago. My doctor's OFFICE.. the NURSE calls me to tell me my result was slightly abnormal--or undetermined. The the nurse says, my doctor ran an HPV test, and it was all negative, so come back in a year!
I'm just going "What"? and HPV test? Why?? The nurse said, "it's fine no problem. Come back in a year."
Well.. I was still scared. So I called back to see if I could have a follow-up earlier because I was nervous. And I was told that the procedure was usually to wait a year--not require a 6-month follow-up. But since I was nervous about it, then I could come back in 6 months. Sure enough. Everything was fine. Normal. I read a little about, and apparently a lot of things can cause this slightly abnormal or "underdetermined" result... like having sex too soon before your visit or even wearing a tampon!
HOWEVER, HPV can cause it, too, so that's why they did that test. Oh.. another thing about the HPV vaccine..the doctor (at the party, not my personal doctor) talking it about said, it's necessarily for young girls to have the vaccine BEFORE becoming sexually active because if they are sexually active--even one time--they could already be exposed to the virus. This doctor was obviously advocating the HPV vaccine, so..... What do you think of the vaccine? Ὅσον ζῇς φαίνου
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Lammastide said: lascantas said: Real quick, let me tell you what happened!
It happened a few years ago. My doctor's OFFICE.. the NURSE calls me to tell me my result was slightly abnormal--or undetermined. The the nurse says, my doctor ran an HPV test, and it was all negative, so come back in a year!
I'm just going "What"? and HPV test? Why?? The nurse said, "it's fine no problem. Come back in a year."
Well.. I was still scared. So I called back to see if I could have a follow-up earlier because I was nervous. And I was told that the procedure was usually to wait a year--not require a 6-month follow-up. But since I was nervous about it, then I could come back in 6 months. Sure enough. Everything was fine. Normal. I read a little about, and apparently a lot of things can cause this slightly abnormal or "underdetermined" result... like having sex too soon before your visit or even wearing a tampon!
HOWEVER, HPV can cause it, too, so that's why they did that test. Oh.. another thing about the HPV vaccine..the doctor (at the party, not my personal doctor) talking it about said, it's necessarily for young girls to have the vaccine BEFORE becoming sexually active because if they are sexually active--even one time--they could already be exposed to the virus. This doctor was obviously advocating the HPV vaccine, so..... What do you think of the vaccine? What do you think of the vaccine? 
I tell you..I wish I WOULD have waited for my husband, you know? But he didn't wait for me either! LOL We're Catholic, but we're sinners. We didn't wait, so I'm not sure if people can be expected abstain? I don't think people should have to die for making mistakes or put their health at risk when there are ways to help people.. to prevent these diseases.. I mean sure people sometimes DO die for using poor judgment, but I just think if there is a way to protect us from ourselves.. well.. why not? As far as this vaccine.. I don't know. I'd really have to look at it. We have little dog, and I tried the dental vaccine for him and brush his teeth--well not every day, but a lot. I didn't like giving him this vaccine, but he had developed a lot of tartar at a young age. He was so sore after the vaccine. I really don't think it did much good because his teeth have still developed a little bit of tartar. He also gets sore from his regular vaccines, too. I just do not think he handles them well. He's a Chihuahua mix.. very little. A friend told me Chihuahuas don't handle vaccines well? I don't know if this is true, but HE doesn't handle them well. So I'm not sure I'm going to give him this optional vaccine anymore, particularly if I'm going to have to have his teeth cleaned yearly anyway. I just feel like he gets so many shots, and to give more that's not really that effective except for certain bacteria.. well.. I'm not sure it's worth the additional discomfort. So I would have to make sure this--the HPV vaccine not the canine dental one-- is safe for my daughter when I have one. And if it is, I would definitely consider it for her as a precaution, but I would also encourage to take sex seriously--abstaining until marriage the ideal.. but definitely taking it seriously as far as emotional and physical risks. And then there is always "the sin," dealing with the sin itself for a Catholic, of course! I would tell this to my son, too--not about the vaccine but to respect himself and others--and to not take these encounters so casually. I think one has to protect one's emotions, health, and I will add conscience. I'm not suggesting even in so doing, one might get hurt or sick or have no consequences at all--maybe if a good outcome. But just to take these involvements seriously, not so casually.
edited for clarity.. Of course, I couldn't control my children's partners--even spouses. I cannot control what they have been exposed to. Like my husband had girlfriends before, so how do I know what he has been exposed to, you know? And yes, of course condoms .. but I think with the pill.. well it makes SOME women not require condoms, maybe? But we should, of course. Of course, to have one life partner..that's it. And I'm sure some do. But most have more than one partner in a lifetime even though they might not have that many compared to other people. It just takes ONE person to pass on a disease, so..... I guess the risk is just greater the more partners you have? [Edited 5/15/09 12:19pm] | |
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Lammastide said: iinthesky85 said: Lammastide said
Which is why God intended for it to be one man with one woman 4 life and not sleep with eveyone and everything that'll sleep with you. Giving you the benefit of the doubt, I'll assume you are at least as smart as I am. You must, then, be decidedly missing the point -- so this'll be the last time I make it: One can spread either strain of the virus to their 5-year-old niece with a simple kiss... she can then spread it to, say, her Sunday school teacher with a simple kiss... she can then spread it to her husband with a monogamous sex act or a simple kiss. The assumption of sexual promiscuity at the occurrence of the virus is not only some backwards countrybama-type stuff these days, but it makes vulnerable those who assume they are somehow removed from it by way of their certain "character."
It's quite enough to champion monogamy on grounds of faith and praxis. I believe Christians are called to do so. But it's quite one's own silly, faithless innovation to 1) make the occurrence or absence of an easily spread bug the gauge to another's monogamy; and 2) ascribe their assumed shortcoming to some statement of their intrinsic fallen character, somehow inexplicably more implicated than the fallenness of us all. Psycho stuff. But, hey, get back to me when you're 50, bro. We'll chat "character" over Western blots and surprised reactions. [Edited 5/15/09 18:12pm]  Shake it til ya make it  | |
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iinthesky85 said: StillGotIt said: People catch shit for all kinds of reasons...you shouldn't judge so harshly. Calling somebody reckless, thoughtless, selfish and foolish for contracting something isn't fair. Everybody doesn't fall in the same category. Lets say somebody is dating another for years, and believed the relationship to have been just the two of them. One partner goes to the doctor only to discover they have contracted something...but they have been faithful.....also remember. Some people are carriers and have no idea..... You're absolutely right, but with this foreknowledge that it could potentially happen, why take chances? so you get married and want to have a baby...so you take off the jimmy hat....once you take off the jimmy hat to have a baby...you are WIDE open for all kinds of shit if your partner is not faithful or is carrying something he isn't aware of. Would you consider that taking a chance? Every time a woman conceives, she is taking a chance. Going to church doesn’t make you a Christian, any more than standing in a garage makes you a car. | |
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those commercials were the fucking worst , but with all do respect, hell the fuck no! my penis is about as useless at this point as anything and i'd be happy to share it with just about anybody, but gotta draw a line someplace and that's about it .life's a bitch, but god forbid the bitch divorce me...
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I'm going to bring this up...It's very sad though.
I watched a little bit of Farrah's story last night. Oh my goodness.. first my thoughts and prayers are with her, her family, and friends. I couldn't watch the whole thing. I admire her strength and courage, but it was just too hard to watch this woman's hope--she seems to be still hopeful.. but in face of..this horrible disease. Anyway, I looked up a little bit about anal cancer.. because this is what she has. Anyway, here is what I found Risk factors
-Human papillomavirus (HPV) infection: An examination of squamous cell carcinoma tumor tissues from patients in Denmark and Sweden showed a high proportion of anal cancers to be positive for the types of HPV that are also associated with high risk of cervical cancer (90% of the tumors from women, 100% of the tumors from homosexual men, and 58% of tumors from heterosexual men).[2] In another study done, high-risk types of HPV, notably HPV-16, were detected in 84 percent of anal cancer specimens examined.[3] -Sexual activity: Having multiple sex partners or having anal sex, due to the increased risk of exposure to the HPV virus.[4] Gay and bisexual men are 17 times more likely to develop anal cancer than heterosexual men.[5] -Smoking: Current smokers are several times more likely to develop anal cancer compared with nonsmokers.[4] -Immunosuppression, which is often associated with HIV infection.[4] -Benign anal lesions (inflammatory bowel disease (IBD),[6] hemorrhoids, fistulae or cicatrices). Inflammation resulting from benign anal lesions, such as hemorrhoids and anal fistulas, has been considered to cause a predisposition to anal cancer. [7][8] www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anal_cancer This is no judgment on Farrah because as I said, from what I have been told the HPV virus, causing cancer is asymptomatic. How would anyone know they have been expose---if this is one of the ways one can develop anal cancer. I mean.. this horrible, really.
So here is another reason why protection.. and maybe that vaccine(?) is so important! You know at first, I was not for the vaccine because I'm not sure if it is really effective. Now, I think it is really something to consider for young girls. Yes, having sex before marriage is a sin, BUT if one is going to sin, then why not take precautions--even if it means sinning again. And one cannot control the "virginity" of one's partner. This is true. edited to fix quote Wait a minute, so HPV can affect homosexual men--and cause anal cancer? Can homosexual men get the vaccine I wonder? [Edited 5/16/09 7:02am] | |
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punkofthemonth said: those commercials were the fucking worst
, but with all do respect, hell the fuck no! my penis is about as useless at this point as anything and i'd be happy to share it with just about anybody, but gotta draw a line someplace and that's about it . I gotta respect that.Ὅσον ζῇς φαίνου
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lascantas said: Anyway, I looked up a little bit about anal cancer.. because this is what she has. Anyway, here is what I found
Risk factors
-Human papillomavirus (HPV) infection: An examination of squamous cell carcinoma tumor tissues from patients in Denmark and Sweden showed a high proportion of anal cancers to be positive for the types of HPV that are also associated with high risk of cervical cancer (90% of the tumors from women, 100% of the tumors from homosexual men, and 58% of tumors from heterosexual men).[2] In another study done, high-risk types of HPV, notably HPV-16, were detected in 84 percent of anal cancer specimens examined.[3] -Sexual activity: Having multiple sex partners or having anal sex, due to the increased risk of exposure to the HPV virus.[4] Gay and bisexual men are 17 times more likely to develop anal cancer than heterosexual men.[5] -Smoking: Current smokers are several times more likely to develop anal cancer compared with nonsmokers.[4] -Immunosuppression, which is often associated with HIV infection.[4] -Benign anal lesions (inflammatory bowel disease (IBD),[6] hemorrhoids, fistulae or cicatrices). Inflammation resulting from benign anal lesions, such as hemorrhoids and anal fistulas, has been considered to cause a predisposition to anal cancer. [7][8] www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anal_cancer a very good point you bring up... and one not usually mentioned. i had read somewhere that just as we have an examination yearly for hpv related changes to our cervix, if we are engaging in anal sex we should also be examined for hpv related changes to our ass. how many women discuss with their doctors that they are having anal sex? zero to nil i bet. start this year, ladies! 
I advocate for the vaccine. It's the first time we can significantly reduce a serious cancer killer! She couldn't stop crying 'cause she knew he was gone to stay | |
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I wonder why there is no vaccine for herpes yet..... Going to church doesn’t make you a Christian, any more than standing in a garage makes you a car. | |
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