Denise offical fatal diagnosis that would lead to death was in September 2015.
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Prince did not blame the Narcan for how he was feeing. Go back and read Judith Hill's statement.
Page 29 “he started to go down the line of like so what did they give me? He started to get really obsessed with that and he started saying you know he’s like it’s one thing if it’s my decision and if its anything I did but if someone else is interfering. They give me something and we don’t know what it is…we need to find out what they gave me…that’s when it started to go haywire…so he started to kind of rationalize…I’m thinking well they saved you…but I didn’t want to argue with him because he is getting very passionate about it…so I was like OK keeping him calm…he was like can we find out the name of what they gave me…” Page 32 “he was tripping off what they gave him…going down that rabbit hole…Prince gets locked in…. You're asking questions that cannot be answered except as an opinion/pov. And yes, he did say that he thought the narcan had affected him & was concerned over what they'd given him. Yes, I'm paraphrasing, but that is the general statement. How was he able to control what? Not taking fake pills? Who said he was trying to control it? As I said before, there's no way to know why he did/didn't take those pills, which bottle they came out of, how many he took, etc. We are not him so there's no way to know. Many didn't want to talk & still don't. The rest is conjecture & opinion. The kind of love that takes over your body, mind, & soul | |
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It is my premise that Prince ended his life to join his love Denise Matthews in eternity and that almost all of Prince's music is about Denise.
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Did he keep Prince's secrets? Did he even know Prince's secrets?
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So what you are doing is questioning the credibility of Judith Hill. Well that is a good thing. I think credibility is important in this case.
Here are my reasons:
Kirk, in his statement to police, was found in easy lies. One being that Judith was not Prince's girlfriend.
At the beginning of Judith's statement they acknowledge that she is the one who prompted the interview. She went to police to give her statement. All the others were running from police.
She had a lawyer with her but he never interrupts her statement to say anything. The only thing he says at the beginning and the end is to contact him if they need to contact her. He must have her story and let her tell it not worring about Constitutional 5th amendment issues.
Not in this post but in another lavenderdrummer says that Judith talks about Prince being reborn. Well I believe this refers to Judith stating that Prince was quiet, laying down, and complaining of not feeling well on the way down to Atlanta but that he was revived after doing the shows and was in a more upbeat mood. I don't think this is 'rebirth' but he was in better spirits after the shows as opposed to before. Lavenderdrummer believe this is inconsistent. But actually, Judith has support from the testimony of the flight crew on this issue. The flight crew say the same thing. Prince was in a quiet down mood on the way down and they say he was very up on the way back, including high 5's going on. So for this important issue Judith's testimony is supported by those who have no dog in this race. The flight crew.
Kirk according to paramedics and medical staff tells them Judith knows nothing and interrupts when they ask Judith questions. Why would he do this?
Shelia E contacts Judith and tell her she should not talk to police and offers to get her a lawyer.
Judith gives her testimony despite pressure from 'friends of Prince' not to talk.
Judith speaks about, in the hospital the medical staff were worried about Prince's liver and Tylenol is concerned he is refusing testing. This cooberated by the medical staff documentation.
The police verify that her testimony regarding her traveling to Minneapolis the night before the concert was supported by Airline traveller reports.
While all of Judith's testimony is not cooberated, a significant amount is that lends belief that all her testimony should be accepted as valid unless there is credible evidence to the contrarty.
All the others refuse to talk. Or say they have no information.
In other interview prior to Prince's death, she gives me the gut feeling that she is a sincere and genunine person, unlike many in the music business.
Here is a link to an interview from Dec 2014. We now know she is involved with Prince at this point.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gH0lSqGv2p8
A more recent interview
Compare these the interview with Kirk.
I just get the gut feeling from Judith's interviews that she is a real genuine and honorable person. She has suffered greatly, personally and professionally, due to his death.
In the absence of any credible evidence to dispute her testimony, unlike the others, Judith should be considered the most credible of persons in this saga. | |
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The only way Narcan affecting him was by saving his life.
This is part of the suicide note. He well thought out plan of tranforming to the spirit world while flying, AKA suicide, is what is being interferred with.
Your orginal comment says that it is typical for addicts to go right back to the drugs after being saved by Narcan. That is true. But that right back to it is immediate and pressing. You don't wait 6 days and it doesn't matter what they take or what bottle it comes from or even where it comes from as long as it gets the job done. The point being Prince was by evaluating his actions was not acting like an addict. Something else was going. Suicide.
Conjector and opinion is why this posts exsists.
But I'm not just looking at the drugs, that is just one aspect of it. Prince left numerous and significanct clues to tell you what was going on. Further, of you recognize and understand that almost all his music is about Denise Matthews/Vanity. It is loud and clear what happened.
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. So no that is not true. But of course he could use any song to dedicate to her that night, without it being about her initially. In 1990/91 for a tribute to Big Chick, he dedicated Purple Rain and Nothing Compares 2 U to him and a bunch of other songs. When he heard about Bobby Z's heart attack he dedicated Nothing Compares 2 U and a few other songs to him... . Let's keep the discussion away from the Prince & Denise romance... we've had many discussion abou this in Associate Artists already. | |
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Yes, hold it. | |
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I sent an orgnote to you 2 days ago. Any further issues/questions you can reply from there.
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You asked why he didn't go right back to it if he was a raging drug addict and I have wondered the same. But he did have plenty of other drugs he was taking, and maybe the Moline incident actually did scare him away from those pills/made him rethink suicide (if that was intent on the plane). But in my opinion, with the pending rehab and everything else, maybe the allure was just too much and the answer was right there in that Bayer bottle... | |
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Prince didn't commit suicide!! He was very ill. he was in pain. Look at the amount of supplements he took. The man was in sever pain. [Edited 1/3/20 5:54am] | |
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Sharonash said: Prince didn't commit suicide!! He was very ill. he was in pain. Look at the amount of supplements he took. The man was in sever pain. [Edited 1/3/20 5:54am] So most who commit suicide—that is, most who leave this world with intent—are undoubtedly in severe pain. Or, they believe they cannot continue to live without entering such a state in the very near future. In saying that, I do appreciate that you are speaking against intent in this case. It’s heartbreaking that so many people experience severe pain. Some may know, or think, that the pain will not get better. Some consider suicide. A small proportion of those who consider suicide go on to attempt it. I can’t imagine being in chronic, horrible pain. Nobody wishes that on anyone. Nobody wishes life to take a turn to that place. We all wish that everyone could live without chronic, horrible pain. | |
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Prince committed suicide and the addiction, pills enema etc they are showing is that they are covering up the suicide. Showing the world he had other projects instruments etc to look forward to was a disguise from the suicide.
Also he tried to commit suicide on the aeroplane to show he died of an accidental overdose and when the Narcan interfered he committed suicide on the 21st April.Nobody at Paisley Park perfect moment.He had done everything he wanted to do.Hit N Run Phase 2 last words That's it | |
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Sharonash said: Prince said in the hospital that someone gave him 2 pills to relax. Now i wonder who is this someone. And if this someone put drugs in his food when he died. Too much stuff going on. Why isn't this case investigated by the FBI? Although Prince won't be coming back.. [Edited 1/2/20 0:17am] Right. He said that “someone” told him the pills would help him relax. Also, there was that unknown food on the table. Can’t remember if it was confirmed where it came from. It’s weird because it looked untouched. Very neatly placed on the table. Also pair of sunglasses on the table. You then have the gloves and vest on the table. So, he arrives at PP on eve of 4/20/16. Sets food and sunglasses on table. Heads to green room. Takes off shoes. Starts feeling “sick.” Heads back downstairs with intent to eat thinking that will help. Leaves room. Possibly feels “hot” Throws off jacket and gloves in hallway. Gets on elevator and sadly never makes it back downstairs to eat. What happened to P is that he trusted someone that caused a sad ending. It’s easy to narrow down who that “someone” is. | |
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Prince was "sick" because he was in withdrawal. (This is per Kirk) He was not hungry as he was in withdrawal. Please read the investigative files...please...please. This like being in a class where so many have not read the files nor existing threads and make statements that are uninformed. It is tiresome. | |
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The food wasn't unknown. His chef made it. It was untouched because........................Prince didn't eat it on account of being dead. | |
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bondno9 said: Sharonash said: Prince said in the hospital that someone gave him 2 pills to relax. Now i wonder who is this someone. And if this someone put drugs in his food when he died. Too much stuff going on. Why isn't this case investigated by the FBI? Although Prince won't be coming back.. [Edited 1/2/20 0:17am] Right. He said that “someone” told him the pills would help him relax. Also, there was that unknown food on the table. Can’t remember if it was confirmed where it came from. It’s weird because it looked untouched. Very neatly placed on the table. Also pair of sunglasses on the table. You then have the gloves and vest on the table. So, he arrives at PP on eve of 4/20/16. Sets food and sunglasses on table. Heads to green room. Takes off shoes. Starts feeling “sick.” Heads back downstairs with intent to eat thinking that will help. Leaves room. Possibly feels “hot” Throws off jacket and gloves in hallway. Gets on elevator and sadly never makes it back downstairs to eat. What happened to P is that he trusted someone that caused a sad ending. It’s easy to narrow down who that “someone” is. Can you put here the pic of the food on the table? | |
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This is remedial and discussed already...about 2 years ago. Catch up on your own. | |
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Where is the link to back this up? This is NOT a fact. It's fan fiction. | |
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Huh? I thought his living and eating quarters where the food was at, was upstairs?? He came in, went upstairs to his living quarters and took his jacket and gloves off and left them laying where he took them off at. The kitchen in his living quarters is upstairs, same level. | |
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Sorry, it's the Hodgkin's talking. | |
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PennyPurple said:
Where is the link to back this up? This is NOT a fact. It's fan fiction. People dont want to believe it but he was depressed He was not eating towards the end of his life which is why he looked ill. He said in one of his last interviews he does not need food water etc because the music was keeping him going and he was seeing those that died b4 him. Who needs proof all those involved are concealing the suicide. Also the song Way back home and others Prince has always told us from his music what he was experiencing. | |
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No, I asked for a link, not more fan fiction. | |
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No, I asked for a link, not more fan fiction. Why obsess over a link when the stories out there are false that he died accidentally. They are covering it up. Prince attempted suicide after his baby died but other links would say something else. After that he became a jehovah witness. Purple Rain movie Prince wants to kill himself Graffiti Bridge same thinking about suicide Under the cherry moon 21st april sometimes it snows in april written. All 3 movies were him in real life He communicated through his art. Nothing to do with a fan fiction. Need to get to the truth. | |
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I predict, sometime in 2020, Carver County will provide the link you seek. | |
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This is my last post here. Prince's death was a suicide. The suicide was a liebestod (love/death) a la Romeo and Juliet (I am forbidden to mention the name of the Juliet in this case. If you want to know more detail go back and read my posts.) I will leave you with these final tidbits: Judith Hill was not interview until June 16, 2016. So the information Judith Hill provided was not considered in concluding a manner of death. At the time, the sheriff and DEA were clearly entirely focused on the source of Fentanyl and Judith Hill had no information in that regard. The Carver County Sherriff did not collect Prince's desk top computer ever in the course of the investigation, even though Judith Hill clearly stated in her interview that the desk top computer in the office was the main computer Prince used. https://www.mprnews.org/s...tric-fetus Four of these purchases can be seen in police photographs of the desk in Prince's office under the 10k in cash. The Chamber Brothers - Most notable song 'Time Has Come, Today' Joni Mitchell - Hejira - Look up the meaning of Hejira Stevie Wonder - Talking Book
It is my belief that Prince left these CDs, the 10k, and the Purple Rain Tour Book on the desk for a reason. Do you? If yes, what is his message? The Purple Rain Tour was 1984-1985.
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The story is in the Carver County Investigative files. I suggest you read them, and if you've already read them, do it again. | |
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I predict they won't. | |
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