Sharonash said:

TrivialPursuit said:

Sharonash said:

PeggyO said:

You will have to raise your game to be taken seriously here. You have to support your comments with what is known. I would suggest reading the Investigative files for a start.

How do you deduce severe pain with being skeletal?

Listen i dont think i get instructions from u. Any way if it hard to u to understand he took opioids and supplements to relieve pain. Opiods cause u to loose weight. Kapish?

1. Listen sweetie, one doesn't take a supplement to stop the pain. Supplements aren't pain relievers, especially in the case of hip pain.


2. It's "lose." Loose is what you are after an anal gang bang.


3. It's "capisce."


4. Skeletal doesn't equal pain.


5. You have no evidence of how long Prince was sick. Two years? So he was super okie dokie before 2014? Is that your time frame? He was just running around the Park, kick up his heels on a rainbow unicorn or something?


6. You'd do well to take PeggyO's advice. Your answers are haphazard and not based on the truth. If you're a Prince fan (and not this troll you're portraying yourself as), then you'd know Prince always taught to seek the truth. You want to rattle on about supplements you saw in a photo as if he was taking fish oil and Ginko Biloba for a decades-long problem - you go right ahead. But understand your ignorance has consequences.

[1 week in the playpen snip - luv4u]

Phase3 said:

Curious to know more about the 2010 suicide attempt.That's news to me

I dont think it was a suicide attempt but an OD.

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

PeggyO said:

TrivialPursuit said:

PeggyO said:

Fiction is a strong word. I think reading between the lines about harm to his body (from Narcan) is a sort of deflection/denial response on his part when he was likely taking large amounts of opiates/other drugs on the regular. (which can cause 'harm')

I'd agree with your read, but I don't see how anyone can construe what she's describing as him "indignant". That word implies an aggression that is not in her words.

I can't believe years later there is still fan fiction concerning his death. The mystery around his death has caused all sorts of people become interested in P. Anyone who has been a fan for long knows P wasn't sucicidal. This man wanted to live, had a strong will and was religious. Honestly, anyone who thinks otherwise need their head examined.

LoveGalore said:

I'm still unclear what the end result of that deflection is supposed to be. So what if they used narcan? He said "it's one thing if it was something I chose" - how would he choose that if he were unconscious?

Again this is why you need to stick to the text. She's pretty specific in describing he thought he would wake up on his own, and believed the Narcan in his system was what they should be concerned about and the cause of what made him feel bad. That's consistent with people who think they know their body, and are in control, whether or not they are abusing pills. He's not even clear on what they gave him or what it does, and he wants to find out, because it's Prince, he's JW or a lapsing JW, and there's implied distrust over what they gave him without his consent. Whether it's deflection or a disassociation, his denial of what happened is what she describes happened. The question of how he could have consented is trivial. It's a little late to distrust her account of things now.

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OzlemUcucu said:

I can't believe years later there is still fan fiction concerning his death. The mystery around his death has caused all sorts of people become interested in P. Anyone who has been a fan for long knows P wasn't sucicidal. This man wanted to live, had a strong will and was religious. Honestly, anyone who thinks otherwise need their head examined.

Please read the Investigative reports, should take 1-2 hours. You will gain important information.

If you have not read the reports, you are operating at a severe handicap and others who have will likely skip your posts.

lavendardrummachine said:

LoveGalore said:

I'm still unclear what the end result of that deflection is supposed to be. So what if they used narcan? He said "it's one thing if it was something I chose" - how would he choose that if he were unconscious?

Again this is why you need to stick to the text. She's pretty specific in describing he thought he would wake up on his own, and believed the Narcan in his system was what they should be concerned about and the cause of what made him feel bad. That's consistent with people who think they know their body, and are in control, whether or not they are abusing pills. He's not even clear on what they gave him or what it does, and he wants to find out, because it's Prince, he's JW or a lapsing JW, and there's implied distrust over what they gave him without his consent. Whether it's deflection or a disassociation, his denial of what happened is what she describes happened. The question of how he could have consented is trivial. It's a little late to distrust her account of things now.

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It was an emergency and he was unconscious. Unless the hospital had clear "Do Nor Resuscitate' orders in his chart, they were mandated to resuscitate,(treat with Narcan etc.)

It is a moot point whether he liked it or not; the alternative was death.

Those with substance issues often deflect, ie., end-stage alcholics may fixate on a benign item such as an aspirin or vitamin and blame that item instead of the alcohol. I had an aunt who was a heavy smoker and developed lung cancer. She denied that cigarettes had anything to do with it; she said it was the result of one year of vitamin use.

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PeggyO said:

OzlemUcucu said:

I can't believe years later there is still fan fiction concerning his death. The mystery around his death has caused all sorts of people become interested in P. Anyone who has been a fan for long knows P wasn't sucicidal. This man wanted to live, had a strong will and was religious. Honestly, anyone who thinks otherwise need their head examined.

Please read the Investigative reports, should take 1-2 hours. You will gain important information.

If you have not read the reports, you are operating at a severe handicap and others who have will likely skip your posts.

I have read the reports and check here it was an accidental OD and not suicide. End of.

Never mind.

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PeggyO said:

It was an emergency and he was unconscious. Unless the hospital had clear "Do Nor Resuscitate' orders in his chart, they were mandated to resuscitate,(treat with Narcan etc.)

It is a moot point whether he liked it or not; the alternative was death.

Those with substance issues often deflect, ie., end-stage alcholics may fixate on a benign item such as an aspirin or vitamin and blame that item instead of the alcohol. I had an aunt who was a heavy smoker and developed lung cancer. She denied that cigarettes had anything to do with it; she said it was the result of one year of vitamin use.

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Anyone in the medical profession can back up what you are saying here. It's true, even out in the community when EMS services are called.

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Mumio said:

PeggyO said:

It was an emergency and he was unconscious. Unless the hospital had clear "Do Nor Resuscitate' orders in his chart, they are mandated to resuscitate (treat with Narcan etc.)

It is a moot point whether he liked it or not; the alternative was death.

Same for EMS, Narcan is first line of treatment in that situation. Not sure if it's protocol everywhere though.

EMS, hospitals have to do anything it takes to resuscitate unless there is a clear order to not resuscitate. This is true in all of the US. Otherwise, they can be sued.

lavendardrummachine said:

LoveGalore said:

I'm still unclear what the end result of that deflection is supposed to be. So what if they used narcan? He said "it's one thing if it was something I chose" - how would he choose that if he were unconscious?

Again this is why you need to stick to the text. She's pretty specific in describing he thought he would wake up on his own, and believed the Narcan in his system was what they should be concerned about and the cause of what made him feel bad. That's consistent with people who think they know their body, and are in control, whether or not they are abusing pills. He's not even clear on what they gave him or what it does, and he wants to find out, because it's Prince, he's JW or a lapsing JW, and there's implied distrust over what they gave him without his consent. Whether it's deflection or a disassociation, his denial of what happened is what she describes happened. The question of how he could have consented is trivial. It's a little late to distrust her account of things now.

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I wasn't questioning her account, troll. Keep up with the thread or leave me alone. Thanks!

PeggyO said:

Mumio said:

Same for EMS, Narcan is first line of treatment in that situation. Not sure if it's protocol everywhere though.

EMS, hospitals have to do anything it takes to resuscitate unless there is a clear order to not resuscitate. This is true in all of the US. Otherwise, they can be sued.

Yes, my comment was in reference to use of Narcan specifically.

PeggyO said:

EMS, hospitals have to do anything it takes to resuscitate unless there is a clear order to not resuscitate. This is true in all of the US. Otherwise, they can be sued.

Absolutely.

LoveGalore said:

I wasn't questioning her account, troll. Keep up with the thread or leave me alone. Thanks!

You were outright challenging her account after misrepresenting her account, after holding up her account as irrefutable. Skip the name calling.

Stick to the actual source for now on:

"he's like, he's like no, I think it's just because I mixed the two, I
won't do that anymore, he's like I know my body well, I know !..I'm a pretty good judge of .. of my
body, but he's like it's because I mixed the two. I said well she's saying you're overdosing on
Tylenol perhaps like that your kid .. so I'm trying to explain to him like no, your organs and this
and that you know, and he's, he's con .. he started to go down the line of like so what did they
give me? He started really getting obsessed with that and he started saying you know, he's like
you know, it's one thing if.. if it's my, my decision and if it's anything I did, it's .. that's one thing,
but if someone else is interfering .. interfering and they give me something .and we don't know
what it is, how it affects the chemistry of whatever else is in my body right now, so we need to
find out what they gave me cause all of these you know, this tornado that I experienced, that
happened only when they gave me that shot, he's like on the plane I was only dreaming, I just
had a dream about there were two sides of people choosing but !..he was like I would have
waken up and I was like .. and he's like no, I would have woken up, so he started to kind of
rationalize, he's like but when .. it was they gave me that thing, that's when it started to go
haywire, so we need to find out what they did to me, and I'm thinking well they saved like you
huh like, so, but I didn't want to argue with him because he's getting very passionate about it so
I was like okay, keeping him calm, I was like .. he was like can we find out the name of what they
gave me, and I said yeah; we'll figure it out and we'll ask and he's .. so that was where he was
going down the line of it and you know, he .. so that, that was a lot of the conversation about the
drugs. Then there was more like spiritual conversation about.."
http://www.documentcloud.org/documents/4442869-Judith-Hill-statement.html

lavendardrummachine said:

LoveGalore said:

I wasn't questioning her account, troll. Keep up with the thread or leave me alone. Thanks!

You were outright challenging her account after misrepresenting her account, after holding up her account as irrefutable. Skip the name calling.

Stick to the actual source for now on:

"he's like, he's like no, I think it's just because I mixed the two, I won't do that anymore, he's like I know my body well, I know !..I'm a pretty good judge of .. of my body, but he's like it's because I mixed the two. I said well she's saying you're overdosing on Tylenol perhaps like that your kid .. so I'm trying to explain to him like no, your organs and this and that you know, and he's, he's con .. he started to go down the line of like so what did they give me? He started really getting obsessed with that and he started saying you know, he's like you know, it's one thing if.. if it's my, my decision and if it's anything I did, it's .. that's one thing, but if someone else is interfering .. interfering and they give me something .and we don't know what it is, how it affects the chemistry of whatever else is in my body right now, so we need to find out what they gave me cause all of these you know, this tornado that I experienced, that happened only when they gave me that shot, he's like on the plane I was only dreaming, I just had a dream about there were two sides of people choosing but !..he was like I would have waken up and I was like .. and he's like no, I would have woken up, so he started to kind of rationalize, he's like but when .. it was they gave me that thing, that's when it started to go haywire, so we need to find out what they did to me, and I'm thinking well they saved like you huh like, so, but I didn't want to argue with him because he's getting very passionate about it so I was like okay, keeping him calm, I was like .. he was like can we find out the name of what they gave me, and I said yeah; we'll figure it out and we'll ask and he's .. so that was where he was going down the line of it and you know, he .. so that, that was a lot of the conversation about the drugs. Then there was more like spiritual conversation about.."
http://www.documentcloud.org/documents/4442869-Judith-Hill-statement.html

I'll repeat my last post since you are confused and a stalker:

I wasn't questioning her account, troll. Keep up with the thread or leave me alone. Thanks!

OzlemUcucu said:

OzlemUcucu said:

AnnaStesia10 said:

^^^ Thanx for reposting part of Judith's statement.

Yes, thanks.

Very disconcerting.

Phase3 said:

If someone had told me that he was tired and depressed with life,has done all he was put on Earth to do,said that enjoyed sleeping more than he does living,I would think that person didn't enjoy life too much.

Maybe, but it's a creative person with mood swings who is aging, their body breaking down after burning the candle at both ends too. Dark mood swings seems apt.

We know he had bright spots in his life .... the book and making peace with old friends... I think there were collaborations with Fischer (or another composer, I forget) that he thought was a breakthrough and new approach to writing music ...Hannah and Joshua making babies.... if he was really romantic with Judith Hill, then he had love in his life...he was mentoring a lot of young artists he was seeking out...he was still customizing new instruments, and showing them off.... he was supporting grassroots political efforts in secret... who knows what else, but wheher or not it was enough to spark joy or whatever, he was certainly out there. The man who couldn't get out of bed, alone at home, battling addiction, or depression, wasn't the entire story.

lavendardrummachine said:

Phase3 said:

If someone had told me that he was tired and depressed with life,has done all he was put on Earth to do,said that enjoyed sleeping more than he does living,I would think that person didn't enjoy life too much.

Maybe, but it's a creative person with mood swings who is aging, their body breaking down after burning the candle at both ends too. Dark mood swings seems apt.

We know he had bright spots in his life .... the book and making peace with old friends... I think there were collaborations with Fischer (or another composer, I forget) that he thought was a breakthrough and new approach to writing music ...Hannah and Joshua making babies.... if he was really romantic with Judith Hill, then he had love in his life...he was mentoring a lot of young artists he was seeking out...he was still customizing new instruments, and showing them off.... he was supporting grassroots political efforts in secret... who knows what else, but wheher or not it was enough to spark joy or whatever, he was certainly out there. The man who couldn't get out of bed, alone at home, battling addiction, or depression, wasn't the entire story.

So what are you trying to say??

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

lavendardrummachine said:

Maybe, but it's a creative person with mood swings who is aging, their body breaking down after burning the candle at both ends too. Dark mood swings seems apt.

We know he had bright spots in his life .... the book and making peace with old friends... I think there were collaborations with Fischer (or another composer, I forget) that he thought was a breakthrough and new approach to writing music ...Hannah and Joshua making babies.... if he was really romantic with Judith Hill, then he had love in his life...he was mentoring a lot of young artists he was seeking out...he was still customizing new instruments, and showing them off.... he was supporting grassroots political efforts in secret... who knows what else, but wheher or not it was enough to spark joy or whatever, he was certainly out there. The man who couldn't get out of bed, alone at home, battling addiction, or depression, wasn't the entire story.

So what are you trying to say??

Just what I said. As much as I have questions about the official story, and don't feel like we really know anything, why can't Prince be human and get depressed and say dark things? Even if it were a suicide, scrutinizing those words in his last days doesn't prove that.

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lavendardrummachine said:

lavendardrummachine said:

Phase3 said:

lavendardrummachine said:

Just what I said. As much as I have questions about the official story, and don't feel like we really know anything, why can't Prince be human and get depressed and say dark things? Even if it were a suicide, scrutinizing those words in his last days doesn't prove that.

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Scrutinizing those words does not prove it but when you add a massive dose of Fentanyl, things change.