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Reply #270 posted 06/05/16 9:52am

mailaccount63

Reread the words to his songs. He was in excrutiating pain from his hips, from what I have heard and read. I think it's obvious he knew he was dying. He didn't know the EXACT day of April 21, 2016, though.

RIP Prince. We will NEVER forget you. Thank you so much.

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Reply #271 posted 06/05/16 11:05am

manci

Marrk said:

paulludvig said:

funksterr said: What terminal illness do you think he had?

What terminal illness lets you gig and party right before you die? confuse

Hundreds. It's shocking to me how little people understand terminal illness. Some knock you on your back months or even years before. Some let you operate as normal, for the most part, until you drop.

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Reply #272 posted 06/05/16 11:30am

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I don't believe he knew he was dying. For one thing he didn't have a will. He was expecting the doctor's son in the morning. He knew he would be receiving treatment soon. If he had a terminal illness, it would have leaked by now. Kirk or one of his inner circle peeps would have told someone privately. Even Sheila wasn't aware at first and flew to Minni to find out why. As for the blind gossip article on the aids thing...I don't think so. Something like that would have leaked.
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Reply #273 posted 06/05/16 12:06pm

Blakbear

tigerLily77 said:



Blakbear said:




Marrk said:




What terminal illness lets you gig and party right before you die? confuse



With this stubborn little git? No telling. You'd basically have to chain him to a bed, I think, to keep him from doing what he wants to do. And depending on what kind of illness, and what stage, he could very wel have been abe to do that much. Keep in mind he only stayed about 20 minutes or so... unless I'm thinking of a different party. But hey, Prince was Prince, and the wee bastard never could be tamed. lol



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lol "stubborn little git". stop lol .



But i agree.


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Prince was in control in all manners of his career and life.


Why wouldnt he choose to have some type of control over his death too?



He knew. Even if it wasnt on concious level. He was spiritually tapped in.



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[Edited 6/5/16 10:55am]


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Reply #274 posted 06/05/16 12:10pm

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In most things, Occam's Razor applies (the simplest answer is usually the right one).

I think it's pretty well-documented that he had chronic joint issues. It's not unusual for patients with chronic pain to be prescribed opiates to help achieve a functional daily life-level in that situation. It's not unsual, either, for physical dependence (as opposed to addiction) to occur in those circumstances. I can easily envision a situation where Prince used opiates regularly to deal with chronic pain so that he could function, decided that the opiates were harming his health, tried to quit cold turkey (bad idea), and then needed pain medication during a particularly bad turn. Took opiates at the same dose as before the "cold turkey" incident, had a near death experience, tried to quit cold turkey again, and then admistered previous dose (which turned out ot be a lethal dose) when pain was unmanageable.

This is, sadly, too common among those who use prescribed opiates, and it fits with his overall feelings about and approach to health generally.

Pure speculation on my part - but totally possible.

[Edited 6/5/16 12:13pm]

"Everything that's in your heart, come what may
Even though his might get broken" RIP Prince
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Reply #275 posted 06/05/16 12:15pm

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RenaRF said:

In most things, Occam's Razor applies (the simplest answer is usually the right one).

I think it's pretty well-documented that he had chronic joint issues. It's not unusual for patients with chronic pain to be prescribed opiates to help achieve a functional daily life-level in that situation. It's not unsual, either, for physical dependence (as opposed to addiction) to occur in those circumstances. I can easily envision a situation where Prince used opiates regularly to deal with chronic pain so that he could function, decided that the opiates were harming his healthy, tried to quit cold turkey (bad idea), and then needed pain medication during a particularly bad turn. Took opiates at the same dose as before the "cold turkey" incident, had a near death experience, tried to quit cold turkey again, and then admistered previous dose (which turned out ot be a lethal dose) when pain was unmanageable.

This is, sadly, too common among those who use prescribed opiates, and it fits with his overall feelings about and approach to healthy generally.

Pure speculation on my part - but totally possible.


I agree with you and I've said this (what you've said above) many times over myself. Thank you.


"And I know you're not just what you say to me
And I'm not the only moment you're made of..."
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Reply #276 posted 06/05/16 1:14pm

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EloiseEloise said:

thatGIRLthang said:
Yes, he knew. He did prepare those whom he has near. When he told me, I said I would fly out to Australia Shows....in a heart beat...he said no, put those money in gold instead girl, I need you to build me an empire when I return. Always full of humor ...the last thing he said to me was hello. Simply hello (and my name). I answered him hallo Prince, and asked how he was doing...to which he never replied, then I told him it was the real Nisan 14 now and he should celebrate. jewish calendar. 13th month. He did commemorate our Messiah....to the fullest.

YES YES YES YES!!!! I can not believe how many people have disregarded/overlooked thatGIRLthang's comments. She posted emails, she can be tracked to FB, it's clear by messages on her FB page that she KNEW Prince. She KNEW him. I have never doubted what she said for one single minute. And yes, I believe Prince knew what was coming too.

[Edited 6/5/16 13:19pm]

Welcome to "the org", Mumio…they can have you, but I'll have your love in the end nod
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Reply #277 posted 06/05/16 1:14pm

mailaccount63

We are all dying.
RIP Prince. We will NEVER forget you. Thank you so much.

"Dearly Beloved:
We are gathered here today 2 get through this thing called: 'Life'."
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Reply #278 posted 06/05/16 1:19pm

endiadj

i wish this stupid thread would die.
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Reply #279 posted 06/05/16 1:21pm

Mumio

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endiadj said:

i wish this stupid thread would die.

If it really bothers you, please feel free to step out and never come back to it. No one is making you come to this particular thread to read and since you feel so strongly about it, I highly advise you don't bother checking it out anymore.

Welcome to "the org", Mumio…they can have you, but I'll have your love in the end nod
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Reply #280 posted 06/05/16 1:24pm

endiadj

^don't read my post if it bothers you.
[Edited 6/5/16 13:24pm]
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Reply #281 posted 06/05/16 1:33pm

mailaccount63

Mumio said:






If it really bothers you, please feel free to step out and never come back to it. No one is making you come to this particular thread to read and since you feel so strongly about it, I highly advise you don't bother checking it out anymore.



yeahthat
RIP Prince. We will NEVER forget you. Thank you so much.

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We are gathered here today 2 get through this thing called: 'Life'."
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Reply #282 posted 06/05/16 1:38pm

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endiadj said:

^don't read my post if it bothers you. [Edited 6/5/16 13:24pm]

But see, if you come into a thread that you have stated you don't like then that kind of brings up the question of troll Because why else would you come into the thread if only to complain about it?

Welcome to "the org", Mumio…they can have you, but I'll have your love in the end nod
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Reply #283 posted 06/05/16 1:48pm

Welcome2daRevo
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Mumio said:



EloiseEloise said:


thatGIRLthang said:
Yes, he knew. He did prepare those whom he has near. When he told me, I said I would fly out to Australia Shows....in a heart beat...he said no, put those money in gold instead girl, I need you to build me an empire when I return. Always full of humor ...the last thing he said to me was hello. Simply hello (and my name). I answered him hallo Prince, and asked how he was doing...to which he never replied, then I told him it was the real Nisan 14 now and he should celebrate. jewish calendar. 13th month. He did commemorate our Messiah....to the fullest.




YES YES YES YES!!!! I can not believe how many people have disregarded/overlooked thatGIRLthang's comments. She posted emails, she can be tracked to FB, it's clear by messages on her FB page that she KNEW Prince. She KNEW him. I have never doubted what she said for one single minute. And yes, I believe Prince knew what was coming too.

[Edited 6/5/16 13:19pm]




yeahthat I would love to hear more from her on this if she is willing.
CALL ME A DREAMER 2!
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Reply #284 posted 06/05/16 1:59pm

purplepoppy

liltalkm said:

2olskool4u said:

Any person or object whatsoever
That requires your attention
Is something that has veered
from its path
And preordained destiny
of total enlightenment

I never wanted a typical life
scripted role, huh...trophy wife
All I ever wanted, to b left alone
See my beds made up at night
Cuz in my dreams I roam
Just trying to find, trying to find
My way back, back home

So many reasons why
There's so many reasons why
I don't belong here
But now that I am I
Without fear I am
Gonna conquer with no fear
Until I find my way back home
Until I find my way back home
Find my way back home

Most people in this world are born dead
But I was born alive
I was born with this dream
With a dream outside my head
That I could find my way back home
My my way way back home

Is this the way?

Power to the ones, power to the ones
who could raise a child like me
The path was set
But if u look the truth will set us free
I've heard about those happy endings
But it's still a mystery
Lemme tell u about me
I'm happiest when I can see
My way back home
Can u see my way back home
Can u see my way back home

There is a big part of me that says I need to listen to this song since his passing, but I am afraid to.

[Edited 4/23/16 16:31pm]

This is the best post for the circumstances. Thank you. heart All org posts since his death are trying to find our way home.

[Edited 6/5/16 14:19pm]

Brand new boogie without the hero.
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Reply #285 posted 06/05/16 2:12pm

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TopazGirl said:



RenaRF said:


In most things, Occam's Razor applies (the simplest answer is usually the right one).



I think it's pretty well-documented that he had chronic joint issues. It's not unusual for patients with chronic pain to be prescribed opiates to help achieve a functional daily life-level in that situation. It's not unsual, either, for physical dependence (as opposed to addiction) to occur in those circumstances. I can easily envision a situation where Prince used opiates regularly to deal with chronic pain so that he could function, decided that the opiates were harming his healthy, tried to quit cold turkey (bad idea), and then needed pain medication during a particularly bad turn. Took opiates at the same dose as before the "cold turkey" incident, had a near death experience, tried to quit cold turkey again, and then admistered previous dose (which turned out ot be a lethal dose) when pain was unmanageable.



This is, sadly, too common among those who use prescribed opiates, and it fits with his overall feelings about and approach to healthy generally.



Pure speculation on my part - but totally possible.




I agree with you and I've said this (what you've said above) many times over myself. Thank you.



--- I agree this sounds plausible and I think since he had gone to the doctor on the 7th and 20th and was waiting for test results he had to have known his days were numbered at that point or he had a terminal illness. I believe he was alone because he did not want to die in hospital.
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Reply #286 posted 06/05/16 2:13pm

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I don't believe that Prince (blessed are we by his memory) anticipated his imminent death. I think he would leave both a will and instructions for his legacy (The Vault, Paisley Park). I'm genuinely surprised that there were no instructions as to what to do on his death, maybe some will come to light, maybe they have been disposed of. Probably Prince simply did not anticipate / plan for it, despite starting his biography. The mystery is part of the joys Prince gave us.

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Reply #287 posted 06/05/16 2:46pm

Suzee

All addicts have the awareness that they could die at any time. Its a game of Russian roulette that they HAVE to play, though they dont want to. They are truly tortured souls. There is a special place in heaven for OD victims. They have suffered on earth more than anyone knows.

Speaking from painful personal experiences.
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Reply #288 posted 06/05/16 3:11pm

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andymacfunky said:

I don't believe that Prince (blessed are we by his memory) anticipated his imminent death. I think he would leave both a will and instructions for his legacy (The Vault, Paisley Park). I'm genuinely surprised that there were no instructions as to what to do on his death, maybe some will come to light, maybe they have been disposed of. Probably Prince simply did not anticipate / plan for it, despite starting his biography. The mystery is part of the joys Prince gave us.


-/// He his head was probaly spinning when he realized he was dying.
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Reply #289 posted 06/05/16 3:47pm

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People are talking about him not having a will.

The majority of people living don't have a will.

I still believe that ASCAP and The Screen Actors/Directors Guilds have someone listed as beneficiary on certain documents.

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Reply #290 posted 06/05/16 3:52pm

Nadz777

I believe Prince knew he was going to die, he always publicly expressed his love for God and his spiritually and maybe he had something terminal... not my business.
He made peace with everyone before he passed.... leave no enemies leave no debt
Makes sense that he didn't want anyone around so no one would be held accountable for anything that happened ... he never seemed like the selfish kind.
He also probably never left a will because he wanted his family to sort things out among themselves plus he may have given extra money to his different charities and church before he died.
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Reply #291 posted 06/05/16 4:38pm

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Here's how I look at it. Prince was trying to get off opiates and was seeing a local doctor to assist him with his withdrawal symptoms. To me, this speaks of a man who wanted to live and was trying to cut something out of his life that he felt was harmful to him. He was thinking about his life and health. Perhaps he thought he could die and was damaging his health from his opiate dependency and this is why he made a decision to kick the dependency, but this is not to say he knew he was dying. It appears he was working on straightening things out, and I'm sure it was an extremely emotional and physical strain on the man. I think he quite possibly felt ashamed or embarrassed of his predicament, which caused further problems such as trying to hide what was going on. If so, I wish he didn't have to feel this way. He's a flesh and blood man and he's not above problems that could affect any one of us. And I know I could talk about this until I'm blue in the face and some will continue to say he knew he was dying and that's ok too. smile



[Edited 6/5/16 16:40pm]

"And I know you're not just what you say to me
And I'm not the only moment you're made of..."
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Reply #292 posted 06/05/16 4:44pm

Disconcertinge
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TopazGirl said:


Here's how I look at it. Prince was trying to get off opiates and was seeing a local doctor to assist him with his withdrawal symptoms. To me, this speaks of a man who wanted to live and was trying to cut something out of his life that he felt was harmful to him. He was thinking about his life and health. Perhaps he thought he could die and was damaging his health from his opiate dependency and this is why he made a decision to kick the dependency, but this is not to say he knew he was dying. It appears he was working on straightening things out, and I'm sure it was an extremely emotional and physical strain on the man. I think he quite possibly felt ashamed or embarrassed of his predicament, which caused further problems such as trying to hide what was going on. If so, I wish he didn't have to feel this way. He's a flesh and blood man and he's not above problems that could affect any one of us. And I know I could talk about this until I'm blue in the face and some will continue to say he knew he was dying and that's ok too. smile



[Edited 6/5/16 16:40pm]


I agree wholeheartedly.
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Reply #293 posted 06/05/16 4:47pm

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Disconcertingeyes said:

TopazGirl said:


Here's how I look at it. Prince was trying to get off opiates and was seeing a local doctor to assist him with his withdrawal symptoms. To me, this speaks of a man who wanted to live and was trying to cut something out of his life that he felt was harmful to him. He was thinking about his life and health. Perhaps he thought he could die and was damaging his health from his opiate dependency and this is why he made a decision to kick the dependency, but this is not to say he knew he was dying. It appears he was working on straightening things out, and I'm sure it was an extremely emotional and physical strain on the man. I think he quite possibly felt ashamed or embarrassed of his predicament, which caused further problems such as trying to hide what was going on. If so, I wish he didn't have to feel this way. He's a flesh and blood man and he's not above problems that could affect any one of us. And I know I could talk about this until I'm blue in the face and some will continue to say he knew he was dying and that's ok too. smile



[Edited 6/5/16 16:40pm]

I agree wholeheartedly.


Thank you so much! smile hug


"And I know you're not just what you say to me
And I'm not the only moment you're made of..."
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Reply #294 posted 06/05/16 5:33pm

Strive

Mumio said:

EloiseEloise said:

thatGIRLthang said:

YES YES YES YES!!!! I can not believe how many people have disregarded/overlooked thatGIRLthang's comments. She posted emails, she can be tracked to FB, it's clear by messages on her FB page that she KNEW Prince. She KNEW him. I have never doubted what she said for one single minute. And yes, I believe Prince knew what was coming too.

[Edited 6/5/16 13:19pm]


If he really knew he was about to die, why would he tell her to skip the show? If anything, that sounds like the comments he made in Baltimore. 'The next time I come to Baltimore, I want to stay in a hotel owned by you.' He wanted her to do something useful with her money instead of blowing it all to see him.

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I'm sure Prince knew things were wrong and his chronic pain was reaching the breaking point but I seriously doubt he thought he was going to die. The guy seemed legit terrified of death and I think he would have done anything possible to avoid it, if he thought it was on the table.

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Same with the biography. Why stop at the Super Bowl if he knew his time was almost up? That type of thing implies that Prince and (whoever was involved at) the publisher thought there was a possibility for a sequel.

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Reply #295 posted 06/05/16 6:15pm

herb4

Strive said:

Mumio said:

YES YES YES YES!!!! I can not believe how many people have disregarded/overlooked thatGIRLthang's comments. She posted emails, she can be tracked to FB, it's clear by messages on her FB page that she KNEW Prince. She KNEW him. I have never doubted what she said for one single minute. And yes, I believe Prince knew what was coming too.

[Edited 6/5/16 13:19pm]



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The guy seemed legit terrified of death and I think he would have done anything possible to avoid it, if he thought it was on the table.

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Same with the biography. Why stop at the Super Bowl if he knew his time was almost up? That type of thing implies that Prince and (whoever was involved at) the publisher thought there was a possibility for a sequel.

No. If anything he seemed particularly unafraid of it.

"I'm not afraid to die cause I know, there's a better place to go", etc.

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Reply #296 posted 06/05/16 6:20pm

fortuneandsere
ndipity

Suzee said:

All addicts have the awareness that they could die at any time. Its a game of Russian roulette that they HAVE to play, though they dont want to. They are truly tortured souls. There is a special place in heaven for OD victims. They have suffered on earth more than anyone knows. Speaking from painful personal experiences.

I like to think if there is an afterlife we're all going to the same place anyway, and if there isn't one that's ok too.

The world's problems like climate change can only be solved through strategic long-term thinking, not expediency. In other words all the govts. need sacking!

If you can add value to someone's life then why not. Especially if it colors their days...
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Reply #297 posted 06/05/16 6:21pm

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[Edited 6/5/16 18:21pm]

The world's problems like climate change can only be solved through strategic long-term thinking, not expediency. In other words all the govts. need sacking!

If you can add value to someone's life then why not. Especially if it colors their days...
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Reply #298 posted 06/05/16 8:17pm

mailaccount63

andymacfunky said:

I don't believe that Prince (blessed are we by his memory) anticipated his imminent death. I think he would leave both a will and instructions for his legacy (The Vault, Paisley Park). I'm genuinely surprised that there were no instructions as to what to do on his death, maybe some will come to light, maybe they have been disposed of. Probably Prince simply did not anticipate / plan for it, despite starting his biography. The mystery is part of the joys Prince gave us.



From what I understand, and from what I have heard and read, Prince hated contracts. Wills are contracts. So why is anyone surprised that he didn't leave a Will? He hated contracts.

Also, Prince was a smart man. Prince was also in excrutiating pain. When you are in that much pain, it is exhausting. When someone dies without a Will, the state makes up one for you. Prince knew his estate was/is massive, and would be complicated to unravel. Prince knew there would probably be claims against his estate. Actually probate is nothing to fear. The people who try to sell you trust schemes preach about how probate is to be feared. It's a bunch of baloney. Prince was in so much pain, I don't believe he had the strength to unravel his estate. The good people that work in the probate court will take care of Prince's estate for him. Prince loved Minnesota - he said so several times. The people of Minnesota love/d Prince. The Probate Court will take care of Prince's estate. Look at what they have done so far. The Court has appointed Bremer Trust to be the Administrator of Prince's estate. This was a good move by the Court.

See the thread: "The Estate" for tbe status of the Estate.
[Edited 6/6/16 10:40am]
RIP Prince. We will NEVER forget you. Thank you so much.

"Dearly Beloved:
We are gathered here today 2 get through this thing called: 'Life'."
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Reply #299 posted 06/05/16 10:23pm

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Mumio said:



EloiseEloise said:


thatGIRLthang said:
Yes, he knew. He did prepare those whom he has near. When he told me, I said I would fly out to Australia Shows....in a heart beat...he said no, put those money in gold instead girl, I need you to build me an empire when I return. Always full of humor ...the last thing he said to me was hello. Simply hello (and my name). I answered him hallo Prince, and asked how he was doing...to which he never replied, then I told him it was the real Nisan 14 now and he should celebrate. jewish calendar. 13th month. He did commemorate our Messiah....to the fullest.




YES YES YES YES!!!! I can not believe how many people have disregarded/overlooked thatGIRLthang's comments. She posted emails, she can be tracked to FB, it's clear by messages on her FB page that she KNEW Prince. She KNEW him. I have never doubted what she said for one single minute. And yes, I believe Prince knew what was coming too.

[Edited 6/5/16 13:19pm]




She is telling the truth.
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