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Reply #180 posted 05/03/16 10:43am

CherryMoon57

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laurarichardson said:

Thizz said:

Sounds like an immune system deficiency

aka AIDS

--- If he had full blown AIDS how was he out riding a bike, going to a jazz club, held a dance party and had time to run to the recor store. I am not saying he could not of had some type of sexually transmitted disease but I do not think it was AIDS. He could have heart problems this guy pushed himself hard for over 30 years he may been asking for a stroke or heart attack.

I agree that Prince was a tough man. Known to push himself to the limit, without complaining. Swallowing his tears or pain, that kind of thing. Whatever his final condition was, I am sure he was not the kind of guy who would stay at home and feel sorry for himself. But that doesn't mean that he wasn't suffering. So maybe he did need lots of painkillers to keep going, and perhaps that was the only way he could keep going for so long, until... the end.

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Reply #181 posted 05/03/16 12:43pm

Curt

The death of Prince has been really challenging for me to deal with. Death is usually senseless, especially the death of people we care about. I've had family live into their 90's and close friends commit suicide and it never makes sense. I do believe that SOME people express an unexplainable clairvoyance about life as they near death. I've witnessed it and it something that I can not explain.

I've seen a person with cancer express it by arranging their own funeral and paying for it, I've witness someone go out and get a haircut before they took their own life, and I've witnessed someone send everyone away from their hospital room except their husband so she could die with him alone next to her. I have witness several people and their actions right before their deaths which allow me to believe that people are very aware of when they are about to die and their actions represent that. I've also seen people take one last dream vacation, have one last fabulous meal, make one last extravagant purchase right before their death which leads me to Prince.

Me, personally, through my own personal experiences, am lead to believe that Prince's recent actions are those of someone who knew he was dying. The extravagant gifts to himself (new custom piano, new custom guitar), the writing of memoirs, the most revealing / personal expressions of himself ever during this tour... These are the only facts I know of so far, everything else is speculation at this point and we will wait to see if more things support this idea.

So while some people feel strongly about avoiding all the "gossip", I get that, but there may also be clues that support the theory above.

We heard he bought a stevie wonder and joni mitchell CD at the record store. Is this true? What was in the CD player when he passed away? We heard he went and saw Lizz Wright perform, what did she play? I went to a Lizz Wright show and she sang a rendition of an old Negro spiritual "Walk With Me Lord" that literally brought me to tears and had me feel like I was ready to go to heaven by the time she was done.

Or it could all be bullshit and like most deaths, we seek to find facts that will justify that which we will never understand...

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Reply #182 posted 05/03/16 1:11pm

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^^ I agree. Some people really just do know or feel something. Even if he didn't feel it was death it was something that wasn't right. The complete ignoring the emergency landing as something serious to me speaks books.

"Free URself, B the best that U can B, 3rd Apartment from the Sun, nothing left to fear" Prince Rogers Nelson - Forever in my Life -
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Reply #183 posted 05/03/16 1:12pm

tmo1965

Curt said:

The death of Prince has been really challenging for me to deal with. Death is usually senseless, especially the death of people we care about. I've had family live into their 90's and close friends commit suicide and it never makes sense. I do believe that SOME people express an unexplainable clairvoyance about life as they near death. I've witnessed it and it something that I can not explain.

I've seen a person with cancer express it by arranging their own funeral and paying for it, I've witness someone go out and get a haircut before they took their own life, and I've witnessed someone send everyone away from their hospital room except their husband so she could die with him alone next to her. I have witness several people and their actions right before their deaths which allow me to believe that people are very aware of when they are about to die and their actions represent that. I've also seen people take one last dream vacation, have one last fabulous meal, make one last extravagant purchase right before their death which leads me to Prince.

Me, personally, through my own personal experiences, am lead to believe that Prince's recent actions are those of someone who knew he was dying. The extravagant gifts to himself (new custom piano, new custom guitar), the writing of memoirs, the most revealing / personal expressions of himself ever during this tour... These are the only facts I know of so far, everything else is speculation at this point and we will wait to see if more things support this idea.

So while some people feel strongly about avoiding all the "gossip", I get that, but there may also be clues that support the theory above.

We heard he bought a stevie wonder and joni mitchell CD at the record store. Is this true? What was in the CD player when he passed away? We heard he went and saw Lizz Wright perform, what did she play? I went to a Lizz Wright show and she sang a rendition of an old Negro spiritual "Walk With Me Lord" that literally brought me to tears and had me feel like I was ready to go to heaven by the time she was done.

Or it could all be bullshit and like most deaths, we seek to find facts that will justify that which we will never understand...

I think that piano and guitar were gifts from Yamaha, who was trying to get Prince to sign an endorsement deal.

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Reply #184 posted 05/03/16 1:13pm

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tmo1965 said:

Curt said:

The death of Prince has been really challenging for me to deal with. Death is usually senseless, especially the death of people we care about. I've had family live into their 90's and close friends commit suicide and it never makes sense. I do believe that SOME people express an unexplainable clairvoyance about life as they near death. I've witnessed it and it something that I can not explain.

I've seen a person with cancer express it by arranging their own funeral and paying for it, I've witness someone go out and get a haircut before they took their own life, and I've witnessed someone send everyone away from their hospital room except their husband so she could die with him alone next to her. I have witness several people and their actions right before their deaths which allow me to believe that people are very aware of when they are about to die and their actions represent that. I've also seen people take one last dream vacation, have one last fabulous meal, make one last extravagant purchase right before their death which leads me to Prince.

Me, personally, through my own personal experiences, am lead to believe that Prince's recent actions are those of someone who knew he was dying. The extravagant gifts to himself (new custom piano, new custom guitar), the writing of memoirs, the most revealing / personal expressions of himself ever during this tour... These are the only facts I know of so far, everything else is speculation at this point and we will wait to see if more things support this idea.

So while some people feel strongly about avoiding all the "gossip", I get that, but there may also be clues that support the theory above.

We heard he bought a stevie wonder and joni mitchell CD at the record store. Is this true? What was in the CD player when he passed away? We heard he went and saw Lizz Wright perform, what did she play? I went to a Lizz Wright show and she sang a rendition of an old Negro spiritual "Walk With Me Lord" that literally brought me to tears and had me feel like I was ready to go to heaven by the time she was done.

Or it could all be bullshit and like most deaths, we seek to find facts that will justify that which we will never understand...

I think that piano and guitar were gifts from Yamaha, who was trying to get Prince to sign an endorsement deal.

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No. The guitar guy said that he got a call from the Prince camp to build it. It was a personal request.

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Reply #185 posted 05/04/16 2:41am

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then there is the cliche that "it was his/her time". I was watching interviews from people who watched the comedian, Sam Kinison, die. They said that his final words were "i don't want to die" and "but why now, I don't want to die" and then "ok". the men who heard this interpreted it as an angel telling him it was his time, spooky and eerie, and it happens the other way too, people say they come back because they are told "it's not your time yet". Malcolm X used to have a deep saying "everything happens on time" probably the reason he didn't fight harder to stay alive and have people checked when they came to kill him. Fate is fate..

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Reply #186 posted 05/04/16 2:55am

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Why is this taking so long now?

My guess is that he had high levels of pain killers in his system, that they may think was a contributing factor but would need to investigate why and who supplied them.

Also, that may not be a conclusive cause of death and they'll need to investigate what other factors contributed... or if there was another cause (known illness, like cancer). confused

[Edited 5/4/16 2:55am]

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Reply #187 posted 05/04/16 3:02am

PeteSilas

james said:

Why is this taking so long now?

My guess is that he had high levels of pain killers in his system, that they may think was a contributing factor but would need to investigate why and who supplied them.

Also, that may not be a conclusive cause of death and they'll need to investigate what other factors contributed... or if there was another cause (known illness, like cancer). confused

[Edited 5/4/16 2:55am]

i heard something to the effect that only certain companies do toxicology reports and that because they are so few that officially are able to operate, they have a backlog. That's what I heard after MJ died.

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Reply #188 posted 05/04/16 3:31am

Rebeljuice

I think the only illness Prince had was the withdrawal symptoms from trying to kick his Percocet habit by himself. The symptoms can be brutal and if he kept failing to kick the habit and trying again time and time again, the symtoms can make you very unwell and malnourished.

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Reply #189 posted 05/04/16 5:20pm

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I think the only illness Prince had was the withdrawal symptoms from trying to kick his Percocet habit by himself. The symptoms can be brutal and if he kept failing to kick the habit and trying again time and time again, the symtoms can make you very unwell and malnourished.

i agree..howver he was foolish to not remain hospitalized ..and watched so not to OD again...

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Reply #190 posted 05/04/16 5:27pm

funksterr

Never heard of ANYBODY dying due to severe hip pain. I'm wondering if Prince was a longtime drug addict, who went through periods of sobriety. And before anybody starts an argument, I'm just angry at what is clearly a senseless death and wondering out loud like everybody else.

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Reply #191 posted 05/04/16 5:32pm

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Never heard of ANYBODY dying due to severe hip pain. I'm wondering if Prince was a longtime drug addict, who went through periods of sobriety. And before anybody starts an argument, I'm just angry at what is clearly a senseless death and wondering out loud like everybody else.

We don't know if he had back pain, knee pain, elbow, wrist carpel tunnel, ankle and a whole host of other pains that go with a lifetime of pushing the body. Hardly any of those pains I mention have a surgery that'll make them all better.

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Reply #192 posted 05/04/16 5:33pm

feeluupp

rumour he had his hip surgery in 2010... interesting the album hiatus from 2010-2014.

[Edited 5/4/16 17:33pm]

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Reply #193 posted 05/04/16 5:40pm

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I'm just curious...if he knew he was that ill (for quite sometime), why didn't the doctors that may have diagnosed him keep him?... Why would they just let him go free? It makes no sense to me...Again, it's just speculation and I could be wrong.

A doctor cannot keep you against your will. The reports have said over and over and over and over the Prince left AMA - thats AGAINST MEDICAL ADVICE. Why are we looking for others to blame?

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For what goes on in his mind
Then give me the electric chair
For all my future crimes"
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Reply #194 posted 05/04/16 6:06pm

SPYZFAN1

When I posted that question on 4/27 it was out of anger and confusion. Not trying to blame anyone and said it was pure speculation. At this time I'm just going to wait for the autopsy results.

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Reply #195 posted 05/05/16 2:11am

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Rebeljuice said:

I think the only illness Prince had was the withdrawal symptoms from trying to kick his Percocet habit by himself. The symptoms can be brutal and if he kept failing to kick the habit and trying again time and time again, the symtoms can make you very unwell and malnourished.

My thoughts too. And that would have consequently made him unable to take rational decisions, hence the urgent need for those around him to step in (without worrying about whether they were going to get the evil eye, or lose their job over this or not). Someone's life (Prince's life) was at stake for heavens sake!

This is so very tragic whichever way one looks at it. sad

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Reply #196 posted 05/05/16 3:30am

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Has anybody seen this article?

"Roberts last saw Prince the evening before the musician was found dead at Paisley Park. He cooked Prince a roasted red pepper bisque with a kale and spring vegetable salad. But Prince never ate it. When he returned to the musician’s studio home for his memorial service a few days later, Roberts found it in the refrigerator – just as he’d left it."

http://www.theguardian.co...sonal-chef

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Reply #197 posted 05/05/16 3:42am

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feeluupp said:

rumour he had his hip surgery in 2010... interesting the album hiatus from 2010-2014.

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But he did tour. He did a few concerts in Europe in the summer of 2010 and then a short tour in the fall. One of the summer concerts was in Werchter, Belgium and when he came back to the country in November, there was an interview where he said in Werchter he wasn't giving his best because of some personal things he had been going through and he was feeling better now.
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Reply #198 posted 05/05/16 10:00am

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There's a certain blind item that was posted in April about a celebrity who had been diagnosed with AIDS. The website that posted that blind item is now saying the item is solved sad

Welcome to "the org", Mumio…they can have you, but I'll have your love in the end nod
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Reply #199 posted 05/05/16 12:16pm

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neutral Amen. I've posted before (while not wishing to be unfair with so few facts established) that something doesn't seem right about the whole thing. How does a very religious man, doing the job he loved doing, on at least some unconscious level seek out death.

funksterr said:

Never heard of ANYBODY dying due to severe hip pain. I'm wondering if Prince was a longtime drug addict, who went through periods of sobriety. And before anybody starts an argument, I'm just angry at what is clearly a senseless death and wondering out loud like everybody else.

The world's problems like climate change can only be solved through strategic long-term thinking, not expediency. In other words all the govts. need sacking!

If you can add value to someone's life then why not. Especially if it colors their days...
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Reply #200 posted 05/05/16 12:42pm

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Nobody mentions either that acetaminophen if taken every day is going to damage the liver eventually, and consequently the user's mental health. I could elucidate why, but it is a fact. We can survive on a liver that is only 30% operational, after which it gets critical. My broader point being, long before that anyone will feel like shit with a compromised liver. Just ask any recovering alcoholic.

Prince's judgement was clouded because he was far from healthy physically or mentally. IT WASN'T JUST THE OPOID. Take away the paracetamol ingredient and he would have found it easier to kick the habit. The drug company/ Big Pharma are just as culpable as the the doctor prescribing him the medication. That's the real point.

The world's problems like climate change can only be solved through strategic long-term thinking, not expediency. In other words all the govts. need sacking!

If you can add value to someone's life then why not. Especially if it colors their days...
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Reply #201 posted 05/05/16 1:12pm

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Arunas said:



FUNKNROLL said:


How long was it before MJ or Whitney's results were known?


MJ died on Jun 25th and the official autopsy results were revealed on Aug 28th, so 2 months, no idea for Whitney,,,

EDIT: Whitney died Feb 9, results on March 22, so a little over a month... Meaning we still, probably, have to wait atleast 2-4 weeks.

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It's normal to take this long even in regular cases. When my sister overdosed it took about 6 weeks because the testing is extensive ESPECIALLY because there could be criminal charges. They leave no stone unturned. There is one lab I think that does it (or does it best) ... I believe it's in Missouri.
Surprise, surprise.
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Reply #202 posted 05/05/16 2:09pm

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Reply #203 posted 05/05/16 5:10pm

BeauGurl

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Yes, he knew. He did prepare those whom he has near. When he told me, I said I would fly out to Australia Shows....in a heart beat...he said no, put those money in gold instead girl, I need you to build me an empire when I return. Always full of humor ...the last thing he said to me was hello. Simply hello (and my name). I answered him hallo Prince, and asked how he was doing...to which he never replied, then I told him it was the real Nisan 14 now and he should celebrate. jewish calendar. 13th month. He did commemorate our Messiah....to the fullest.

How long ago was it that you spoke with him. <3

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Reply #204 posted 05/05/16 5:59pm

luvsexy4all

why did the dr who was to take him to rehab take so long to get to him?

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Reply #205 posted 05/05/16 10:30pm

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I don't know if he knew, but it must have been unsettling for him to see some of his peers pass away eg, Bowie, Whitney, MJ, Natalie Cole, Maurice White, and especially Vanity who he knew very intimately and that who was in his thoughts when he was touring Australia in Feb this year.

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Reply #206 posted 05/05/16 11:08pm

SteelPulse1

Yea he knew something alright but the controlling tightlipped dude he was jus motored thru it n hoped for the best. Luck ran out
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Reply #207 posted 05/06/16 7:27am

FunkyFingers

the more reports coming out from people close to him the more it sounds like he knew he was dying
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Reply #208 posted 05/06/16 7:44am

BeauGurl

Reading so many of the negative comments on social media is breaking my heart even more than the day we heard Prince had passed. But I can feel the deep love you folks have for him and it comforts me. I, too, am devastated by his passing and can not stop thinking about him. Endless tears for days now. There's such a heaviness in my heart & soul. I've been devouring every article and interview I can find about him. ­­­And listening, again, to his music fill not only my ears but every part of my body and mind. It's incredible the way he could do that to so many of us.

I came here looking to see if anybody else felt it was possible that Prince may have chosen to opt out of this world and into the Afterlife purposely? After seeing him sitting at that piano during his last show in Atlanta, giving such an amazing performance, it made me wonder how long he had been using that huge graphic of the avatar in his show? The one where both his eyes are closed, and the third eye is opened. To hear he had been reminiscing of his father and becoming emotional ­­­---even crying and needing to go backstage to recompose himself. Inviting old friends to PP. The announcement of a book deal!

It just seems like there were many, many signs (especially since January) that he knew his time here was coming to an end.

I can't help but wonder if he intended to die peacefully that night on the plane. Close to the Heavens, punching through to the "higher floor." Instead, his people panicked when they realized he was dying and made an emergency landing. He was carried (unconcious) off the plane and was brought back to this life. When he awakened after the shot of Narcan he promptly left the hospital, against medical advice, and in his own words... he had been transformed!

My hope is that his experience in those moments before he was revived was everything he had imagined it would be.

I believe it's possible that he had a terminal illness and didn't want to be a burden to anybody. He didn't want to let his fans and friends down. Perhaps he couldn't stand the thought of not being meticulous from head to toe? Didn't want to get too sick that he couldn't be PRINCE. He wanted to be in control of his destiny and his life ­­­even if that meant ending it. IF the reports are true that he had been using pain meds for years, one thing is certain to me: He controlled the pills, they didn't control him.

So Prince goes home after all the hoopla at the hospital in Moline. And he is FEELING THE LOVE. Everyone is calling him, checking up, sending their love. Fans are blowing up social media w/ concerned well­-wishes. (His people that were with him on the plane must have been going crazy with worry about him, wanting him to rest, and frantically trying to figure out how to get him help). But what does he want to do? Prince wants to party like it's 1999! So he decides to throw a party at PP and invites the luckiest 200 fans to come and see him one final time. Because, afterall, life is just a party...

But parties weren't meant to last.

So he enjoys the next few days of this life the best he can. I imagine some of his representatives were hounding him to get help, trying not to leave him alone, maybe even threatening to call that doctor in California. But Prince knows it's his time. He asked everyone to leave PP. His cook said in an interview there was a different vibe there the last night he brought him dinner. It wasn't the usual jovial place it had been.

I don't believe Prince had any fear of dying. Instead, he stepped into the privacy of that elevator welcoming it. He was ready to leave the pain and suffering, the loneliness of this world behind. It was no accident. He knew that is where his body would be found. There may have even been a letter right there with him, instructing that he was to be cremated immediately. Perhaps even notifying people he had left no Will --because money didn't matter tonight. He was on his way to celebrate what comes next. And sending yet another sign to all of us. Was he going to let that elevator bring him down? Hell NO! He used it symbolically. It was his way of showing us he had transcended to the place his soul came from. Back to the God that he had such a deep and loving belief in. He was showing us he was in control and wanted it this way.

I hope that I have put this in a way so as not to offend or unnerve. wink

Whatever actually happened that night, we will probably never really know. Choosing to believe this is the way it may have went down helps me to cope. And it's makes a lot more sense than all the other smack talk going around.

Rest in Paradise, Beautiful One.

You wil forever be a part of so many people who truly adored you. <3

[Edited 5/6/16 11:32am]

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Reply #209 posted 05/06/16 7:44am

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FunkyFingers said:

the more reports coming out from people close to him the more it sounds like he knew he was dying


any links i can read? i haven't seen anything to that effect. the ones i am seeing have people saying stuff like "he was working a lot", "he was sick (the chef) but was himself in every other respect", insisting to his friends that he was fine, etc.

no doubt he was emotional during his p and m performances, but that could have been grief over vanity, depression (word is he suffered from it), and possibly dealing with a serious physical condition.

the thing that freaked me out a little was his lucid dreams of seeing dead people. that can happen sometimes before death. but prince was so plugged in to the spiritual, i could see it even if he wasn't dying.


"do i have a friend tonight?" --prince at his last concert in atlanta bawl
"If u love somebody, your life won't be in vain
And there's always a rainbow, at the end of every rain."--peace and love, dear prince.....
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