I'm wrestling with the fact that the autopsy has already been done. He's body at least has been fully examined. Noone has said there was a pre-existing condition outside of his hip injury. No one. No doctor has said he was being treated or at least diagnosed with XYZ illness, even if he wasn't seek treatment. We are only waiting for the toxic screen which tells what medications were in his system and how much, that's it. I've concluded there were no obvious signs of anything wrong with him, so no cancer at least. Seems like he was in an obsessive stage of working which does not say much because given all that's heard about him it's normal for him, maybe he has/had OCD or one of those other issues that people have a lot of these days, and was just in the manic stages of it. Topped with flu slowing him down and pissing him off. Him pushing back harder anyway he could. Sounds the most realistic to me

I'm tired. I'm spinning every thought in my head when things go quiet, going to sleep, waking up. It's too much. No answers are coming. And not a thing I can do about it.


Yeah, it's getting time to push away.

he missed the sign from GOD...o'ding 6 days before ..and coming back to life....only to carelessly die

luvsexy4all said:

he missed the sign from GOD...o'ding 6 days before ..and coming back to life....only to carelessly die

Today, I read somewhere where someone said that if you o'd and they give you the save shot, that it wipes the drugs from your system and that you go into bad withdrawls, and that he was probably trying to get rid of the horrible withdrawls and over medicated. I don't like spectulating but this seems like it could be the case, especially since it was reported that he was seen agitated and pacing outside of Walgreens. He's a small man, so maybe his body couldn't take it. It's so damn frustrating not knowing anything! The thought of him suffering in any way is so hard, and knowing that he died alone is even harder. We all need closure.

ERINAMONDO said:

I definitely think he knew.... somehow. He invited Morris, which included Jellybean and Madonna to Paisley. Seems like he was making amends.

Also, I've never been a conspiracy theorist, but so many weird coincidences - the number 7, the elevator, did anyone see what it said Prince was up to 20 years ago on 4/21 in the book "The Vault?"

What did it say???

AnonymousFan said:

ERINAMONDO said:

I definitely think he knew.... somehow. He invited Morris, which included Jellybean and Madonna to Paisley. Seems like he was making amends.

Also, I've never been a conspiracy theorist, but so many weird coincidences - the number 7, the elevator, did anyone see what it said Prince was up to 20 years ago on 4/21 in the book "The Vault?"

What did it say???

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I think ERINAMONDO means that on April 21, 1985 Prince was recording Sometimes It Snows in April?

Se7en said:

My mind was wandering, and right or wrong this thought popped in my head: what if the reason he held onto the 'fro hairstyle so long (longer than any other look) was to bookend his musical career looking basically the same. Maybe he knew he was on borrowed time earlier than this year?

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My blog from the concerts in Atlanta mentioned this, Prince coming full circle. Starting his career with an afro, keeping an afro now. onevoice4peace.com (Still In the Groove). I wrote it on the 16th. Everyone that is speculating now, I had those same speculations before anything happened. There was something going on, I could feel it.

m33kn3ss said:

Se7en said:

purplethunder3121 said:

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It's all speculation... On my part too. I was totally believing that Prince was sick and he knew so. But if there is no will...? That makes me think maybe not to my first gut instinct.

What do you all think now? Maybe they need to take a greater inventory of the Vault. And why wouldn't a good lawyer like Londell make sure that Prince had a will?

terrig said:

From where I sit, as a professional motion-based person. I have to tell you -years of dancing in heels and jumping off those risers takes a toll and I can believe whole heartedly that Princes knees and hips were gone way before he hit age 40. Having taught classes myself for 35+ years daily...theres pain, with every step. As you age you lose the cushioning in your joints - the glucosamine& chondroitin helps but its daily maintenance.

Once you have the hip replacement surgery it doesnt mean the pain is gone. Cycling is in effect a prescription for maintaining motion and it was probably a painless way for him to move around. Some of the tweets where he responded to me were in regards to the mitigation of the pain of performance. I've worked with many musicians extensively and know the physical toll it takes.

I dont think he knew he was dying - I think its possible the flu turned into walking pneumonia, which is extremely dangerous - combine that with pain meds, cold medicince and not having been cared for properly by a doctor eithe rbecause he didnt realize how sick he was or he was unable to admit he needed more medical care...but I think it was an unfortunate accident of a combination of meds and the seriousness of a wlaking pnuemonia that possibly overwhelmed his heart.

People like Prince are used to keeping going at all costs. He and Madonna are very similar that way.

I've learned myself this year after breaking a foot. 50-something is not the new 30-something. Ignore it at your peril. I understand why he would ignore it and I cant believe the OD story nor can I believe he knew he was dying.

I am having such a hard time processing his home-going. I cant say 'death' anymore...I refuse to believe him to be gone.

Seems understandable.

Something happened in Atlanta that he didn't make it back home in time and had to ground the plane, for him to cancel shows meant it was very serious. Too many loose ends to have a terminal illness, he would have been working around the clock at PP trying to tie them. The memoir would have been finished or close to it.

People are going to want to know if he had recorded anything in the studio after he came back from Atlanta.

One thing to keep in mind, Prince didn't believe in contracts and a will is a sort of contract. Also, Prince was deeply spiritual, worldly goods would not matter to him when he was no longer on this earth, therefore he may have felt it was not important afer he was gone what happened to those worldly goods. If you recall, in one interview when asked about what would happen to his music in the vault he said, "Oh someone may release them some day" (or something to that effect), as though, he really hadn't thought about it, he didn't worry about it, someone would do something with them one day if they want to. Prince was always focused on something higher, and worldly goods were just that. I think Prince just wasn't interested in doing will, knew the laws of Minnesota, and knew that it really didn't matter to him what happened after he was gone because he would be in a place where such things have no meaning.

RobotDevil said:

AnonymousFan said:

What did it say???

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I think ERINAMONDO means that on April 21, 1985 Prince was recording Sometimes It Snows in April?

I don't know how to post a pic without a link, but it's posted in the various FB groups.

"21 April 1996

Prince is rushed to the Fairview Southdale Hspital in Edina, Minnesota. He had experienced chest palpitations and occaisional sharp pains. Having popped several aspirins and drunk wine to numb the pain, he became violently ill. He was taken to the emergency room."

Someone correct me if I am wrong, but the report Friday did not say his death was "inconclusive" but rather incomplete and they were awaiting toxicology and family history. I have thought, given the fact they allowed family to take care of things on their end later that day--I think they know what likely caused his death. If anything, I hope the toxicology will squash the drug-fueled rumors out there that make no sense for those who knew him or even followed his life through forums like this. As in, maybe they want to rule out that drugs either killed him, or caused a drug-disease interaction.

As for him knowing he was ill, the only thing that I had heard that seemed odd to me was the memoir. As much as I was looking forward to it since I only like to hear things from the horse's mouth, it did not seem right to me, and I honestly thought it was false until I saw the quotes he said about it. I cannot imagine Prince writing a memoir, unless maybe he knew something was wrong. His music serves as his largest memoir, I believe, but would love to see what he may have written in those 50 or so pages.

Also, I do not think it is fair to try and blame people for his death, like saying why didn't friends or family stay overnight with him. I hate that he died alone, and especially that he died in an elevator of all places, but it is not fair to blame anyone for him dying alone, including himself. He didn't need a babysitter or someone hovering over him as he slept or worked. Often times he worked alone and this night should not have been any different. I bet people offered to stay with him or "hang out", maybe he declined because he did not plan on dying. Even if he was ill and knew it, I do not think he knew he would be gone this fast this soon.

gatorgirl said:

dont u think he wouldve made a will if he knew he was dying?

luvsexy4all said:

he missed the sign from GOD...o'ding 6 days before ..and coming back to life....only to carelessly die

that's what i saw as a possibility, god warns people and they either listen or they don't.

luvsexy4all said:

dont u think he wouldve made a will if he knew he was dying?

i don't know if he would, Prince was pretty metaphysical, i could see him thinking that writing a will would be calling something into reality. I don't know, Prince is a mystery, always was.

luvsexy4all said:

dont u think he wouldve made a will if he knew he was dying?

not if he believed he wud eventually be cured of whatever he had, and/or that he would live for a very long time

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pardon my language but i still cannot believe we are discussing this shit. Prince was suppossed to live to old age.

I'm just curious...if he knew he was that ill (for quite sometime), why didn't the doctors that may have diagnosed him keep him?... Why would they just let him go free? It makes no sense to me...Again, it's just speculation and I could be wrong.

SPYZFAN1 said:

I believe he knew his time was coming soon which makes it more surprising that they are claiming there is no will. I knew something was up when his plane made that emergency landing. You don't make an emergency landing when you are so close to landing for a flu. I also was surprised he was writing a memoir, I would still love to read what has been written even if it's only 50 pages.

Damn. ...what in the hell could he have passed from? I guess we'll find out in a few weeks.

panpac777 said:

FunkyFingers said:It would make sense being he was very ill the last week the hospital visit in moline the frequent trips to walgreens the appearance at paisley concert the comments made about save ur prayers a couple days then to b left alone at paisley park the day he died Prince always had security with him which leaves me to think he knew he was dying .....Yes, and Prince inviting Madonna to Paisley Park after her MPLS Rebel Heart tour show las October was like he was reaching out to connect with certain people cause' he know he may not see them again.

Madonna took her child to see Prince in NY, NY during the W2A tour. They have been good for a while.

today they said the meds were found on him and in house.