pald1 said:

Firsr off...you don't know me or anything about me so don't sit there and talk about what I believe. Second...you are a sick person.

Like I said in the begining...I have nothing but love for everyone. I refuse to go 'round and 'round about this. It doesn't have to do with the bible it's just normal kindness...If I don't like what your doing that is my right. I still have to treat you with respect and love. What is wrong with that?

When you are on your death bed (many many years from now I pray) I am curious on the name you will be calling out....

I'll be on another thread....Lets just end this and lets get back to what are here for....discussing Prince and his music.

Peace 2 U

thewaexperience said:

I'm just trying to understand what was the purpose for the New Yorker interview, he didn't talk about the book, he didn't talk about music??

And right now I am a scorned lover who has loved and supported prince since '84.. I’ve tolerated a lot of his quirks and stunts but the republican comment and gay comment just took the cake..

he has done some mean stuff to people including not showing up to Sheila E's Family Jamm in LA, which I flew to LA and I heard he was right in town, nonetheless it was a good time..

or how about after I went to the Love4Oneanother concerts in Atlanta and New York paid for the after show and Prince only showed up for a second to pick up his check from the club, granted it was not a guaranteed that he would perform but he didn't even acknowledge the room, he walked thru and walked right out..

And where is Roadhouse Garden?? Lol –

From Jill jones
Sunday, February 24, 2008

The Petit Prince & his Web Sheriff!!
Current mood: disappointed
Category: Music

It has come to my attention that the link to the Mia Bocca Video no longer works on my site. This is due to Prince's NPG Records copyright infringement whatever. I am saddened by this particularly as this song was jointly worked on. As I recall calling various Italian restaurants to get the direct translations for what we wanted to say. That being said, we ended up getting several busboys I think who were Mexican and well Italian and Mexican...not the same. :-)LOL I was constantly corrected in Italy about my Bad Italian. (Only in fun tho')

Personality, Ego and the Essence of a man. Which one is he? Being in the world and not of it, is difficult.

All I can say at the moment is,
" He (Prince) is like a man using a candle to look for the sun"
Jalal ad-Din Rumi quote

Its moments like this, that makes a gay person not want to be gay.
I am gay and I wouldn't have it any other way. So its not an issue for me, its an issue for those who spew hate upon ppl who are different than them.

Its not an issue here and "THISISDADAWN" THANK YOU BROTHA!!!
Well said!

We need more folk like you around
DETROIT -TORONTO BABY!!!!

kjamal said:

you're still here?

kjamal said:

Wow....thanks for the post... I wonder if he would do Sheila and othere he still works with like that?

Some of u guys are a joke...ur comments re Prince make me think this is not the org i used to know. Get over yourselves for goodness sake. If he was misquoted, who are u to judge and roll ur eyes at that?

This is suppposed to be a forum for Prince fans.. right now some of u r just a bunch of haters and that's disappointing to see. So don't stay on the forum - get off it; don't hang around.

Loved him then, love him now.. not one single one of us is perfect. There is much more to Prince than bad reporting.
[Edited 11/17/08 13:55pm]

IrrisistableRich said:

u made a great point

DetroitMusic said:

that's heartbreaking. i hope some truth comes out and it is a misquote.

prime said:

1. Tell me I'm wrong about my 'asumptions'...
2. Care to to take a stab against any of my arguments? Didn't think so...
3. When I'm on my death bed, I won't be calling out any names. Why? Because I don't fear death. Read Freud's FUTURE OF AN ILLUSION. Belief in any god comes from fear of death...there must be something after this right?? If we make the right abasements, he'll let us in right?

You better stop replying to my posts..you keep getting schooled...although, I admit that I'm happy to oblige.

marcia204 said:

People change.. there´s a time when you´ve loved your husband but when slapped you against the wall several times how can you love him anymore? Just loved him then , love him now?? Does that work??.....

What's the surprise in this? Prince has been a religious fanatic for years and if you didn't think his beliefs were going to line up with a conservative world view as a result, you've either been fooling yourself or not paying attention for the last decade.

And really, what's the loss? He hasn't made any music worth listening to since the late 80's and is nothing but a greatest hits act live. Sure, he can still play and outperform anyone, but it's not like there's a new creative era that anyone is going to miss out on as a result of questioning whether or not they should or shouldn't remain a fan. He's entered his old man phase and he's not coming back.

Play the records from the 80's before he was brain washed, they're all that's ever mattered anyway.
[Edited 11/17/08 14:04pm]

Wall said:

Prince is 100% against all gay people wake up!!
He chooses to be part of this religous group and so he has to live under the rules of the JW simple as that. He could have choosen another religion but he is a JW now if it is good or bad I´m not in the position to judge -judge for yourself....

pald1 said:

Schooled??? Your joking right?

So your telling me my beliefs are wrong...Just leave it alone.... You have your beliefs and I have mine... keep reading those books and I'll read mine. Man...this is stupid... Everybody is a tough guy....

Peace
[Edited 11/17/08 14:09pm]

i really, really want to believe that this was a grievous misquote. But given the number of times Prince has in recent years been alledged to have said things in a similar manner, it adds up to too much to discount. I'm afraid he may have really said it.

It's so sad; so disheartening to see someone who once was so free and openminded become enslaved to religious dogma. To see someone who once espoused freedom of individuality and sexuality, rail against it.

I'll still love the man's art, but the more I see of Prince as a person (at least how he comes across in the media) the less respect I have for him. If it any of it is untrue or a misrepresentation, I'd hope that he'd come forward himself to clear the air. But that he so far has said nothing to challenge the image of a narrowminded religious bigot speaks volumes.

If he were still making great music-- hell, even decent music -- this would be a non-issue for most. Prince has been back and forth with the same issues for atleast 30 years only now he doesn't have his talent to hide behind when he slips up.

If he lives long enough he'll realize all of these ideals and judgments of his are useless. Then maybe he'll be free (again?). I won't judge him for his beliefs though. All we can do is hope that he attains peace.... but he won't find it in a book. After all, God could make the same complaint since he doesn't allow tape recorders either.
[Edited 11/17/08 14:26pm]

prime said:

Except that my 'beliefs' are proven fact. Yours are, well...beliefs. I know I shouldn't really respond because you're not even trying to argue...you just want it all to go away so u can close your ears and cuddle up with an imaginary friend. Look, I have nothing against you but please remember that you're talking to an adult who has thought these things through. The first thing you have to do is be honest with yourself. Think about that before responding. I want to hear what you think, not what someone has told you to think. OK?

meow85 said:

I'm completely baffled that anyone would be surprised by this. Of course it wasn't a misquote. Perhaps a word or two was, due to there being no recording device, but the thrust of the statement is surely accurate. Why? Because he's made similar comments in the past -- see Wendy and Lisa -- has removed anything he considers 'vulgar' from his own music and is a member of a group that condems homosexual behavior -- how on earth would it be a grievous misquote? It would be more shocking if the closed-minded curmudgeon was accepting of the homosexual lifestyle at this point in his life.

Again, if this is shocking to you, you simply have not been paying attention to Prince and his moronic, brain-washed pyscho-babble for the past decade.

kjamal said:

why would someone like yourself waste your time building resentments against a musician who you used to like but now your only interest is to boycott him etc. just cuz he changed his way of thinking . people do that when they mature and age and they have every right to that. I don't see where prince may sound homophobic but if it erks you so much change the channel. you still come on a fansite and you still read the articles and then you emphasize you're not a Prince fan. you sound like a fanatic.

Wall said:

I'm not shocked at all, but I wish I'd had reason to be surprised. I'm just saddened by it. It's always a disappointment when someone gives their mind and free will over to ignorant superstition and bigotry. But especially so when it's someone who, as a young man, seemed to have known better.

Maybe it's my naivete speaking, but I thought we were supposed to get wiser with age, and not the other way around.

monk76 said:

I am not talking about an abusive husband.. we just need to get this into perspective. I am talking about an artist.. his beliefs does not impact on how i judge myself. Prince's music speaks for itself; I will not give the article much more thought. I just find it so agressive the outpouring.. real shame.

PEJ said:

call me what u like, but just like people who disapprove of R. kelly, Janet, michael, britney, etc, prince neds to be taken down a leg or two.. and i am the one who will start the rally.. it only takes one to gt the ball rolling

and like may 'fans" your brain washed.. i can't wait until he doe somewthing that really gets under your skin,,, see you on the otherside.. lol

pald1 said:

your post reminds me of one of the best books on this whole topic i've
read in quite a while. dawkins' god delusion. especially the last line
of the highlighted bit gives me hope that there are indeed also people
out there who seek to educate themselves beyond the limiting frames of
environment. a round of applause is well deserved for that

marcia204 said:

You just don´t get it do you!!???
He is a role model!!! His beliefs might not change the way how you judge yourself but it will change some of his fans and not for the better....

monk76 said:

I've met fans who converted to JW because Prince did. It's not unheard of.

Wall said:

On the real, I don't think he's down with gay marriage...And yes, everyone knows what he said to Wendy & Lisa (although that didn't stop them from working and playing with Prince again...)...

But in terms of this interview, I'm not buying some of the quotes...Only because Prince is much too cryptic and calculating to say some of this stuff so bluntly...That's not his style...But who's fault is that when u don't allow tape recorders?...

meow85 said:

Yepp I know a fan who is a JW because of Prince now.
[Edited 11/17/08 14:36pm]

monk76 said:

I can only speak for myself. It seems that you know all about me. Those that change prob are the ones who are not secure in themselves and that is not his responsibility. So when Prince was dry humping in his tight black numbers.. he was a role model? He never put himself there, other people did. He has always rocked the boat.. I think the media make and break people by over-reacting and they have way too much power - u know what they say about power huh. What makes u so sure he was not misquoted?

murph said:

Hmm intersting so you think Prince isn´t a JW??

monk76 said:

I just said i don't think he's down with gay marriage...what else would that mean?...lol...My problem is some of the quotes...They are too blunt...Not Prince like...but that's all dude's fault...He lays out the parameters for thse interviews...
[Edited 11/17/08 14:43pm]