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Reply #30 posted 11/17/08 10:26am

IstenSzek

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CNNBREAKINGNEWS said:

gyro34 said:



Perhaps, he's afraid to lose fans?



well im still here ...


lol. your signature. and on that note, i'm still here too. sigh lol
but i never cared to much about prince "the man" anyway. as long as
his music is pleasing to me i'll be around.

it's just a shame that the music is getting less and less fun or
interesting and his oppinions are getting more and more explicit.
it makes it kind of hard to ignore and all.

but at the end of the day, who cares what the cook says or does.
if he'd release an anthology series tomorrow i'd buy it.

but i'd also give him a slap if i'd ever un into him falloff
and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
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Reply #31 posted 11/17/08 10:29am

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Well, this is the downside of the no tape recorder rule isn't it.

It would be interesting to hear from the journalist too, since Prince is accusing them of mis-quoting him. Is there really any reason why they would mis-quote him? Even if they paraphrased what he said, it's likely he expressed those opinions.
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Reply #32 posted 11/17/08 10:32am

gyro34

CNNBREAKINGNEWS said:

gyro34 said:



Perhaps, he's afraid to lose fans?



well im still here ...

So am I.
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Reply #33 posted 11/17/08 10:32am

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prime said:

I don't believe in homosexuality but I love them as a person. I have never told a gay joke. I work with and have sat down and ate with gay people. They have been at my house. I have family members who are gay. I still don't like what they are doing...That is my oppinion. Did you hear Prince (even in the mis-quotes) say anything negitive? He was sharing his beliefs and that was it. I have seen pictures of Prince and Ellen long after he became a JW and I am sure they are friends.

Question for you: If Prince said he doesn't like people who cheat on their spouses would you still slam Prince and protest? There are certain things in life that people accept and don't accept and that is thier life. As long as we treat everyone with respeact that is all that matters.

Much love...


how can you say you love someone "as a person" when you don't like "what they
are doing" i.e. what they are.

plus, comparing homosexuality to cheating is just...nevermind. i should just
get out of this thread. it's a dead end street anyway.

confused
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Reply #34 posted 11/17/08 10:33am

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makes me angry what a hypocrite, it quiet sad some one who 20 years ago was happy to go on stage wearing womans clothes HEAVEY make up and me flamboyant and open with his sexuality, is now an apparent no sex no swearing boring old man, but he still makes good music so i'll forgive him lol (btw not saying prince should drag it up and be dancing round to head anymore but still.....)


That's what growing and becoming soemone fo faith is about. There isn't a christian that doesn't have a past. We all do...would you like to be called a whore or a drunk or a dope head at 40 because partied and had fun at 20? That wouldn't be fair.... Now if he was saying this in 1986 then I would be right with you.
Prime aka The Kid

"I need u to dance, I need u to strip
I need u to shake Ur lil' ass n hips
I need u to grind like Ur working for tips
And give me what I need while we listen to PRINCE"
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Reply #35 posted 11/17/08 10:34am

gyro34

IstenSzek said:

CNNBREAKINGNEWS said:




well im still here ...


lol. your signature. and on that note, i'm still here too. sigh lol
but i never cared to much about prince "the man" anyway. as long as
his music is pleasing to me i'll be around.

it's just a shame that the music is getting less and less fun or
interesting and his oppinions are getting more and more explicit.
it makes it kind of hard to ignore and all.

but at the end of the day, who cares what the cook says or does.
if he'd release an anthology series tomorrow i'd buy it.

but i'd also give him a slap if i'd ever un into him falloff


Similar thoughts here. cool smile
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Reply #36 posted 11/17/08 10:34am

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prime said:

That is not fair. The bible is black and white

The bible is the EXACT opposite of black and white. Right back to the first century CE, there have been disputs over what the various books in the Bible are saying. Not to mention the hundreds of different sects and denominations all of which interpret it differently.

And most importantly of all when examining documents from antiquity, you have to take into account the cultures from which they were borne, the motives of the authors, and in general the context within which they were written. Not to mention if we have the original, accurate versions of such texts (which in this case we certainly do not).

So, no the bible most certainly is not black and white, at all.
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Reply #37 posted 11/17/08 10:42am

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IstenSzek said:

prime said:

I don't believe in homosexuality but I love them as a person. I have never told a gay joke. I work with and have sat down and ate with gay people. They have been at my house. I have family members who are gay. I still don't like what they are doing...That is my oppinion. Did you hear Prince (even in the mis-quotes) say anything negitive? He was sharing his beliefs and that was it. I have seen pictures of Prince and Ellen long after he became a JW and I am sure they are friends.

Question for you: If Prince said he doesn't like people who cheat on their spouses would you still slam Prince and protest? There are certain things in life that people accept and don't accept and that is thier life. As long as we treat everyone with respeact that is all that matters.

Much love...


how can you say you love someone "as a person" when you don't like "what they
are doing" i.e. what they are.

plus, comparing homosexuality to cheating is just...nevermind. i should just
get out of this thread. it's a dead end street anyway.

confused
[Edited 11/17/08 10:33am]


[color=red]Come on.... you know what I am talking about. I am ot going to get into a "are they born this way" type of discussion. I am talking about not agreeing with someones life style but still loving them and treating them with respect.

Plus, comparing homosexuality to cheating to some folks is the samething. It may not be to you but a sin is a sin... Bring up Clinton's name annd a lot of women say "he is a moral pig" ... ok well some folsk will say the same thing aobut Ellen...not me but I am just putting out there....

I remember at my college (years back) there was this girl protesting for "Pro choice" but see also had a "save the whales" button on.... is that the same as your "plus, comparing homosexuality to cheating is just..." comment?

Look I love everyone...I don't have anything bad to say about anyone...I love and respect everyone as long as they are doing the same...

Peace & Love
Prime aka The Kid

"I need u to dance, I need u to strip
I need u to shake Ur lil' ass n hips
I need u to grind like Ur working for tips
And give me what I need while we listen to PRINCE"
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Reply #38 posted 11/17/08 10:43am

emesem

one of the saddest post on prince.org, ever as it exposes Prince to be about as informed about the world as Sarah Palin.
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Reply #39 posted 11/17/08 10:44am

Mong

Prince has fucked up big time with his "comment" on gay marriage.
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Reply #40 posted 11/17/08 10:44am

prime

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NouveauDance said:

prime said:

That is not fair. The bible is black and white

The bible is the EXACT opposite of black and white. Right back to the first century CE, there have been disputs over what the various books in the Bible are saying. Not to mention the hundreds of different sects and denominations all of which interpret it differently.

And most importantly of all when examining documents from antiquity, you have to take into account the cultures from which they were borne, the motives of the authors, and in general the context within which they were written. Not to mention if we have the original, accurate versions of such texts (which in this case we certainly do not).

So, no the bible most certainly is not black and white, at all.


No... now there can be discussion about what was really meant but a sin is a sin. We want to twist everything around to fit our lives so we won't feel bad. Is Murder wrong?
Prime aka The Kid

"I need u to dance, I need u to strip
I need u to shake Ur lil' ass n hips
I need u to grind like Ur working for tips
And give me what I need while we listen to PRINCE"
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Reply #41 posted 11/17/08 10:46am

suomynona

http://www.huffingtonpost...44338.html

The comments here should get good.
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Reply #42 posted 11/17/08 10:50am

prime

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Look ... all I am saying is Prince has certain beliefs and we should respect it. We shouldn't call him names and all the other stuff because then we are doing the same thing you are accusing Prince of doing....

Everyone begs for more and want to get into his private life...well here ya go


Peace & B wild.
Prime aka The Kid

"I need u to dance, I need u to strip
I need u to shake Ur lil' ass n hips
I need u to grind like Ur working for tips
And give me what I need while we listen to PRINCE"
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Reply #43 posted 11/17/08 10:51am

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prime said:

[color=red]Come on.... you know what I am talking about. I am ot going to get into a "are they born this way" type of discussion. I am talking about not agreeing with someones life style but still loving them and treating them with respect.

Plus, comparing homosexuality to cheating to some folks is the samething. It may not be to you but a sin is a sin... Bring up Clinton's name annd a lot of women say "he is a moral pig" ... ok well some folsk will say the same thing aobut Ellen...not me but I am just putting out there....

I remember at my college (years back) there was this girl protesting for "Pro choice" but see also had a "save the whales" button on.... is that the same as your "plus, comparing homosexuality to cheating is just..." comment?

Look I love everyone...I don't have anything bad to say about anyone...I love and respect everyone as long as they are doing the same...

Peace & Love



i am absolutely baffled. speechless. i guess this is why i never go to
the prince p and r forum.

how is it possible that in this day and age with all the available
science and literature people are still this ignorant?

that's not a direct flame or stab at you, prime, it's a generalisation,
kinda like gay people being sinners. not just one particular one, but
the lot of them.

neutral
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Reply #44 posted 11/17/08 10:53am

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Where's Spooky Electric when you need him??
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Reply #45 posted 11/17/08 10:57am

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incredibleD said:

Dr Funkenberry says there are misquotes in it:

PRINCE NEW YORKER ARTICLE FULL OF MISQUOTES!!!!

Posted in Celebrity News on November 17th, 2008 by drfunkenberry

We were just sent this:

Prince did an interview with the New Yorker recently and it is CHOCK full of misquotes!!

The reporter was not allowed to use a tape recorder, and so paraphrased nearly everything.

We are told the parts qbout religion are especially misquoted.

Prince never said “God came to earth and saw people sticking it wherever and doing it with whatever and he just cleared it it out. He was like “enough”. Those are the WRITERS words, not Prince’s.

Next time, there will be a tape recorder. (Eye roll)

We want to thank Prince’s people for clearing that up.-Dr.FB

Tags: New Yorker, Prince


http://www.drfunkenberry....misquotes/


Thank you so much for this. This is why I just want his art. I have no idea what to believe about Prince. But you know whatever brings him happiness is all that matters for me. Just produce great music and I am happy and a devoted fan of his art!

Bless you for sharing and keeping us on top of what is going on!
Be glad and rejoice for the Lord has done marvelous things!

Joel 2:21
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Reply #46 posted 11/17/08 10:57am

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He was just so much cooler when it was bout universal love and stuff, but once he got that JW shit in his head it blocked his artistic endeavors and makes him look more loony than usual.

sad

He needs to shut the fuck up and go away. Get a fork.
The Most Important Thing In Life Is Sincerity....Once You Can Fake That, You Can Fake Anything.
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Reply #47 posted 11/17/08 10:59am

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prime said:

No... now there can be discussion about what was really meant but a sin is a sin. We want to twist everything around to fit our lives so we won't feel bad. Is Murder wrong?

Well, the bible says murder is wrong, but the bible also justifies a nomadic tribe entering Canaan and slaughtering every man, woman and child who resides there, so I don't know, is murder wrong?
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Reply #48 posted 11/17/08 11:01am

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prime said:

Look ... all I am saying is Prince has certain beliefs and we should respect it. We shouldn't call him names and all the other stuff because then we are doing the same thing you are accusing Prince of doing....

Everyone begs for more and want to get into his private life...well here ya go


Peace & B wild.

Agreed. wink
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Reply #49 posted 11/17/08 11:03am

kjamal

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kjamal said:

I read this article early this morning - I have resigned from being a Prince fan – I’ve had enough of him - I will never support another Prince project - he's like the republicans want to do God's will and the democrats do not- for a person who doesn't vote because his religion tells him not too, he sure has a lot to say on politics –


Why, because he has is own oppinions about things?



That is not fair. The bible is black and white. If it says something is wrong, then it is wrong. There are fools out there that judge folks because of their interpretation but Prince isn't doing that. He was pointing things out and that was it. Now those folks who blow up abortion clinics and stand outside funerals and curse the families because the person was gay is so far from the bible...and everyone who comes from the bible shouldn't be compared to those idiots. Plus, saying these things about Prince is just as bad as what you are accusing P of doing.

I am no longer a Prince fan - I have no interest in his music - the only interest I have now is exposing him for the fraud he is – any boycott that I can participate in slamming prince I am totally for it!- which includes asking the radio stations to not support his new music, sending emails / letters to television shows like Ellen since Prince is a homohpobe why should she support him, picketing outside his concerts when he comes to tour,not buying and new music, etc..


Go right ahead and make a fool of yourself. I don't believe in homosexuality but I love them as a person. I have never told a gay joke. I work with and have sat down and ate with gay people. They have been at my house. I have family members who are gay. I still don't like what they are doing...That is my oppinion. Did you hear Prince (even in the mis-quotes) say anything negitive? He was sharing his beliefs and that was it. I have seen pictures of Prince and Ellen long after he became a JW and I am sure they are friends.

Question for you: If Prince said he doesn't like people who cheat on their spouses would you still slam Prince and protest? There are certain things in life that people accept and don't accept and that is thier life. As long as we treat everyone with respeact that is all that matters.

Much love...


you know even tho the bible may be in black and white, its full of color,.. colors some fail to appreciate..

below is a quote from a Jill Jones interview.. this is the person you are defending like you know him so well ..

and just because i choose not to support homophobes and extremist doens't mean im a fool.. your a hippocrite secretly judging people who you invite in your home to eat with- you must need them for something other than just being a true friend

before you try to get the speck out of the homo's eye you should try and get the speck out of yours.. or better yet let people be and enjoy them for who they are insteading of judging them becuase they are not you or what you want them to be.. and where is the respect in this interview, i don't know if i an more upset with Prince saying that the republicans want to live by the bible and the democrats want to do whatever or the gay quote..

we have a Christian president thats democrat, i guess Obama is just a front for the anti Christ? Prince is wacky and just becasue you believe something doesn't mean your right!!

from Jill Jones interview:

NEIL : Doesn't it really piss you off, that just about EVERYBODY has heard you sing at some point (the opening line of 1999, for God's sake!),but don't know who you are ?

JILL : Not really. My ego was never placed there. Nor shall it ever be.
NEIL : Are your vocals featured on 1999 - the New Master ?

JILL : No. I have not had any contact with Prince since 1992. I thought after my mother died in 1995 or even after my uncle died in 1997 (he was his hairdresser), he'd have sent condolences, but he never did. So I certainly was not going to expect to be invited to sing on his new master of 1999. (: :
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Reply #50 posted 11/17/08 11:05am

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emesem said:

one of the saddest post on prince.org, ever as it exposes Prince to be about as informed about the world as Sarah Palin.

thumbs up!
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Reply #51 posted 11/17/08 11:06am

suomynona

1999 The New Master was straight garbage. Jill should be proud she isn't on it.
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Reply #52 posted 11/17/08 11:18am

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i see some people here taking every word in this article as sure fact and getting twisted over it.

I don't know what to think. I find it kind of strange that this whole gay marraige quote comes up now, when we're in the midst of a huge fight over gay rights. is it totally impossible that they threw it in there, not really.

if prince really said this, shame on him big time, he should know better, whatever he believes he should keep his mouth shut to avoid offending his fanbase. the fact that there was a retraction on the story signals to me that he regrets the backlash that may be coming, otherwise he would not say anything and kept to his word.
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Reply #53 posted 11/17/08 11:22am

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kjamal said:

I am no longer a Prince fan - I have no interest in his music - the only interest I have now is exposing him for the fraud he is – any boycott that I can participate in slamming prince I am totally for it!- which includes asking the radio stations to not support his new music, sending emails / letters to television shows like Ellen since Prince is a homohpobe why should she support him, picketing outside his concerts when he comes to tour,not buying and new music, etc..


U really gonna put that much energy into slammin Prince? SMDH
Prince and Manuela sat with Ellen and Portia at an event at one time and he was a JW at that time. So just cause one doesn't agree with the lifestyle doesn't make that person a homophobe.
I swear the words "HATER" is wayyy over-rated...smh
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Reply #54 posted 11/17/08 11:22am

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Prime, you don't have to like what GAYs are doing, it has nothing, absolutely NOTHING to do with you.

I'm sure its plenty of ppl that don't like you, but do you care about it????
NO, so...stop acting like the saint, you think you are.

Everyone has a right to live life the way they see it fit for themselves and if a man has a natural attraction to someone of the same sex, thats what he feels is right for him, as long as its not harming him or the other person.

I never heard a gay person say...I'm harming myself and others, so i'll just stop doing me.

No you'll never hear that, simply because it is what it is.
I also hope Prince did get misquoted on those statements, because I will burn every last PRINCE cd I own.

Because I don't appreciate him trying to be the almight Prince of Religion.
JW's believe only a certain amount of ppl will make it into the pearly gates of heaven, so tell me this, why do they try to convert everyone they come into contact with, knowing that NOT EVERYONE will make it. Thats funny!

You and I are both entitled to our own opinions and beliefs, so respect that!
People are People and everyone is entitled to believe and live their lives as best suited for themselves, GOD is Love and he forgives all of those who repent for their sins, which is EVERYONE, because there is no one on earth who follows the bible WORD FROM WORD!

No sin is greater than the other, so don't point out one and try and make it out to be the worst of them all.

Watch what you eat (lol)
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Reply #55 posted 11/17/08 11:22am

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Everyone changes.
Even Prince can change.

As far as 'mis-quotes', that is inevitable if no one who speaks to him
is allowed to record the interiew. Reoporters are good, but no one is that good to be able to remember every part of a conversation. Especially if it is Prince you are talking to.

Let the man express who he is now and how he has evolved as a person. I mean I certainly am not the same person I was when I first discovered his music. However, I still love to listen and enjoy it even still.

No matter what his view on any of the 'issues', we are all entitled to our opinion. After all, this is the home of the brave and land of the free.
Is it not?

Like it or not, Prince is who he is. It seems that the more some actually know about him the more critical they are of him. That is interesting, considering the whole point of even being here is 'to know' what is going on with his life and music.

Just my thoughts and opinions.
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Reply #56 posted 11/17/08 11:25am

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Mong said:

Prince has fucked up big time with his "comment" on gay marriage.

Ain't it funny how the "average" person can disagree with the homosexual lifestyle and it'll b alright, but let a celebrity say it and it's the most fucked up thing eva!
tsk tsk tsk SMH
I swear the words "HATER" is wayyy over-rated...smh
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Reply #57 posted 11/17/08 11:30am

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Personally, and this hasn't started just from this interview, but I only take his word as red when I watch him say it in a tv interview.

People make up loads of shit. Or he could have said it, but hey, why even waste time trying to figure that out? I just dismiss it all unless I hear words from his own mouth.
That's right, you are Divinity
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Reply #58 posted 11/17/08 11:31am

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Y'all need to calm down a little lol. ANY prince fan would know that he never expresses himself explicitely like this. He usually gives vague answers which leave room for interpretation. I feel like she took his answers and wrote what she thought he meant. Prince is usually very prudent when it comes to interviews. So I trust Prince's people on the misquotes
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Reply #59 posted 11/17/08 11:32am

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JayJai said:[quote]

kjamal said:

I am no longer a Prince fan - I have no interest in his music - the only interest I have now is exposing him for the fraud he is – any boycott that I can participate in slamming prince I am totally for it!- which includes asking the radio stations to not support his new music, sending emails / letters to television shows like Ellen since Prince is a homohpobe why should she support him, picketing outside his concerts when he comes to tour,not buying and new music, etc..


U really gonna put that much energy into slammin Prince? SMDH
Prince and Manuela sat with Ellen and Portia at an event at one time and he was a JW at that time. So he doesn't hate them, isn't out to kill them and still respects them, which is very acceptable.
[Edited 11/17/08 11:34am]
I swear the words "HATER" is wayyy over-rated...smh
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