One clarification on the PHARELL COMPARISON:

Of course Prince came first. Of course Prince's legacy will be much greater.

But guys like Pharell or Andre 3000 are making him sound old TODAY. Just like James Brown became irrelevant in the 1980s when Prince and others took over. Face it or not, that is a fact. And it does not imply that Prince and JB are not among the greatest artists of the 20th century...

I am simply talking about relevance in TODAY's music world. And there is no doubt that any Pharell song (Frontin is one, Let's get blown is another, I could quote quite a few -note that I am not even a huge Pharell fan) sounds fresher and more innovative than Black Sweat. Watching the video, I had the odd
feeling that even Prince himself does not seem to really believe in the song. He seems to have lost his faith over the past 10 years (Rainbow Children being an exception, for good reasons: he may have lost his faith in human beings, his faith in wild sex, but he has found a true faith in Jehovah...that's why he really poured his heart into TRC)

DMSR said:

Any screen-capture program should work. I use Snag-It. I can do captures of whatever is on my screen and then crop the image. So if there's a video playing, most screen-capture programs will snag the video too. You just gotta time it so you get the video frame that you want.

I'm not familiar with what capture programs will work with a Mac, but I know they exist and they work the same way.

Hope this helps.
[Edited 2/2/06 19:04pm]

fantasylandmusic said:

Hmm. Living up to your username pretty well there Pure Prince-fan fantasy I'm afraid.

Whatever Prince's influence on contemporary urban music (and we could argue that all day) Prince has been quiet for a long time and hasn't been a huge musical influence on anyone. Fact is, there's a whole iPod-owning generation who has never even heard of the guy. So let's not get carried away here.

With regard to the Neptunes guys... they bring a lot more to the table than a few Prince albums and I for one don't hear such a huge influence. On the other hand, if you were doing a "pop music family tree" it wouldn't take long to trace the roots of Black Sweat (the video, and the song) back to a bunch of recent hits including a few with Neptunes involvement.

Don't be bummed by it - there's nothing embarrassing about it. Prince is a middled-aged guy now; so how the hell can he be expected to compete with these young cats and still seem hip? All in all, he's done a pretty decent job of sounding fairly contemporary, if perhaps missing out on a radio-friendly hook that might have sealed the deal.

Without wishing to state the obvious, Prince didn't invent funk, or soul, or hiphop, or R&B. He didn't invent singing in falsetto. His music has been influential, but let's not go claiming that everything even slightly funky comes indirectly from Prince. I'm no fan of marketing, but Prince is a professional musician, and there's no shame in Prince adapting his "product" occasionally to fit current market trends and tastes.
[Edited 2/4/06 3:12am]

The Kiss comparisons are absurd. Prince couldn't duplicate that song if he wanted to. He can't even get the sound and arrangement right in concert.

potroastpony said:

OH, now I see what your fucking problem is

She's cute I don't know who dressed her but she's cute

potroastpony said:

OH, now I see what your fucking problem is

She's cute I don't know who dressed her but she's cute

dewalliz said:

Go to a Prince concert and tell me if you see any Blacks.

dewalliz said:

Go to a Prince concert and tell me if you see any Blacks.

wow he sang his ass off last night ...the way he left the stage was awesome ...

psychodelicide said:

Not the spitting image, I know, but Nina Simone came to my mind when I saw that part of the video.

And DAMN! She's got a big mouth! I love it.
[Edited 2/2/06 18:46pm]

He does look good in that video. I kept waiting for him to do some sort of dance, though. He just stood there...and sat there...for the whole video.

You can't have a song that funky and not bust a single move.

Damn, Prince is too cool.

dewalliz said:

He's only doing that because he's trying to recapture Black fans that he shitted on back when he was big.

dewalliz said:

Go to a Prince concert and tell me if you see any Blacks.

whatever..

if this was some light skin or white looking girl nobody would have anything bad to say about her. But since women with darker skin and strong African features are not considered pretty by the majority we have to hear about how ugly she is.

thats right i said it

lames

potroastpony said:

That I disagree with you on. There a many a black folk at Prince's concert and not only blacks, but whites, asians, hispanics, the list goes on. He does have a diverse audience. Prince has been a musical influence, maybe just not to you. I've been to his concerts 3 times. The question is have you been there?

As far as the person saying Prince had being giving props to all women of color before Black Sweat make an example for me cuz I don't know what chu talkin' about. This is the first time I have ever seen the darkest, BLACKEST woman in his video as the vixen.

That's the ugliest bitch I have ever seen in a Prince video.

Meloh9 said:

That's ridiculous. There, I said it.

If she were lighter skin, there'd be plenty of people who'd say she was hot, and just as many who'd say she wasn't. It has nothing to do with her having darker skin.