musicjunky318 said:

trueiopian is trying to say that her popularity played a role, which it did.

It's like Floptina having her breakdown now. It'll stay in the news for a week or two but I mean other than that it's not gonna dominant coverage because she's irrelevant and nobody cares. Her getting all drunk and pissy is still sort of underground.

Flop could have pulled the same head-shave like Britney and it wouldn't have been as big of a deal.

Exactly.

And you're right about X-tina It really did seem as if nobody cared about her little meltdown. Whereas everyone was concerned about Britney's and rooting for her to get help.

This is only the end of his career if he can no longer sell downloads, actual units, or sell tickets. It's not like the music industry hasn't ever put up with a violent, hot-tempered, or otherwise "difficult" person.

SonOfSoul said:

trueiopian said:

I never said she didn't have photos of her ass-beating. I said that if she weren't a BIG artist or BIGGER than Chris Brown then the reaction wouldn't have been as BIG as the it was. It's really not that hard of a concept to grasp.

Duh! YOU need to learn how to read. I never said you say that. My whole point is, VISUAL evidence of the beating of a famous person is gonna trump a damn marriage certificate in terms of shock value. Had R. Kelly had a sex video with Aaliyah and she was underaged, that shit would've been way more powerful than a marriage certificate.

Eh well that's a no brainer.

I was commenting on you saying that a sex tape with Aaliyah would be bigger than it already was. I disagree becaue he's more of a household name than she is. I don't think it would've been bigger. Like I stated, the reason why Chris and Rihanna was a big deal was because she's more famous. People will side with her more.

trueiopian said:

SonOfSoul said:

Duh! YOU need to learn how to read. I never said you say that. My whole point is, VISUAL evidence of the beating of a famous person is gonna trump a damn marriage certificate in terms of shock value. Had R. Kelly had a sex video with Aaliyah and she was underaged, that shit would've been way more powerful than a marriage certificate.

Eh well that's a no brainer.

I was commenting on you saying that a sex tape with Aaliyah would be bigger than it already was. I disagree becaue he's more of a household name than she is. I don't think it would've been bigger. Like I stated, the reason why Chris and Rihanna was a big deal was because she's more famous. People will side with her more.

If it's a no brainer, then why in the fuck did you argue with me about it?

But cool, as long as we agree on that.

Nvm. You don't get it.

coltrane3 said:

This is only the end of his career if he can no longer sell downloads, actual units, or sell tickets. It's not like the music industry hasn't ever put up with a violent, hot-tempered, or otherwise "difficult" person.

And the media is no help, beating a dead horse. Both of them are trying to move on with their lives, so what's their agenda?

trueiopian said:

musicjunky318 said:

trueiopian is trying to say that her popularity played a role, which it did.

It's like Floptina having her breakdown now. It'll stay in the news for a week or two but I mean other than that it's not gonna dominant coverage because she's irrelevant and nobody cares. Her getting all drunk and pissy is still sort of underground.

Flop could have pulled the same head-shave like Britney and it wouldn't have been as big of a deal.

Exactly.

And you're right about X-tina It really did seem as if nobody cared about her little meltdown. Whereas everyone was concerned about Britney's and rooting for her to get help.

Christina does everything Britney does but to a lesser degree.

Britney becomes a pop sensation. Christina becomes a smaller one.

Britney delves into acting. Christina's movie does smaller numbers at the box office.

Britney gets married, has children, gets divorced. Christina follows suit.

Britney's in crisis. Christina begins her breakdown but it's not as epic.

Britney has her comeback. Christina will attempt hers in a couple years but it won't be successful.

Nobody cares.

[Edited 3/22/11 13:05pm]

angel345 said:

coltrane3 said:

This is only the end of his career if he can no longer sell downloads, actual units, or sell tickets. It's not like the music industry hasn't ever put up with a violent, hot-tempered, or otherwise "difficult" person.

And the media is no help, beating a dead horse. Both of them are trying to move on with their lives, so what's their agenda?

Their agenda is to attract viewers, and "controversy" attracts viewers.

trueiopian said:

Nvm. You don't get it.

You're right, obviously something's lost in how you tried to explain what "I" already explained.

He should have channeled his sudden anger into his planned performance on the show, which was supposed to occur after the interview. Now THAT would have propelled sales. Darn it.

angel345 said:

coltrane3 said:

This is only the end of his career if he can no longer sell downloads, actual units, or sell tickets. It's not like the music industry hasn't ever put up with a violent, hot-tempered, or otherwise "difficult" person.

And the media is no help, beating a dead horse. Both of them are trying to move on with their lives, so what's their agenda?

Their agenda has been the same as it's always been - ratings. They know the bigger topic is his Rihanna beatdown than his wack-ass CD, so that's what they're going to push. Also, he kinda fucked himself by not ever really coming out and talking about it, so he HAS to know that interviewers are gonna prod his stupid ass to give up the goods on what happened that night.

WaterInYourBath said:

He should have channeled his sudden anger into his planned performance on the show, which was supposed to occur after the interview. Now THAT would have propelled sales. Darn it.

Oh well.

musicjunky318 said:

trueiopian said:

Exactly.

And you're right about X-tina It really did seem as if nobody cared about her little meltdown. Whereas everyone was concerned about Britney's and rooting for her to get help.

Christina does everything Britney does but to a lesser degree.

Britney becomes a pop sensation. Christina becomes a smaller one.

Britney delves into acting. Christina's movie does smaller numbers at the box office.

Britney gets married, has children, gets divorced. Christina follows suit.

Britney's in crisis. Christina begins her breakdown but it's not as epic.

Britney has her comeback. Christina will attempt hers in a couple years but it won't be successful.

Nobody cares.

[Edited 3/22/11 13:05pm]

You can't be serious?

Musicslave said:

musicjunky318 said:

Christina does everything Britney does but to a lesser degree.

Britney becomes a pop sensation. Christina becomes a smaller one.

Britney delves into acting. Christina's movie does smaller numbers at the box office.

Britney gets married, has children, gets divorced. Christina follows suit.

Britney's in crisis. Christina begins her breakdown but it's not as epic.

Britney has her comeback. Christina will attempt hers in a couple years but it won't be successful.

Nobody cares.

[Edited 3/22/11 13:05pm]

You can't be serious?

I'm dead serious. The truth is in the pudding.

coltrane3 said:

angel345 said:

And the media is no help, beating a dead horse. Both of them are trying to move on with their lives, so what's their agenda?

Their agenda is to attract viewers, and "controversy" attracts viewers.

Self interest, grab headlines, yeah that sounds like them

musicjunky318 said:

Musicslave said:

You can't be serious?

I'm dead serious. The truth is in the pudding.

Where's the proof?

SonOfSoul said:

angel345 said:

And the media is no help, beating a dead horse. Both of them are trying to move on with their lives, so what's their agenda?

Their agenda has been the same as it's always been - ratings. They know the bigger topic is his Rihanna beatdown than his wack-ass CD, so that's what they're going to push. Also, he kinda fucked himself by not ever really coming out and talking about it, so he HAS to know that interviewers are gonna prod his stupid ass to give up the goods on what happened that night.

Ok true, but there's a proper forum, time and place for that, I believe. Not when you're trying to promote your CD, and then Rihanna's name comes up. Does that make sense for the media to do that?

musicjunky318 said:

Musicslave said:

You can't be serious?

I'm dead serious. The truth is in the pudding.

Now, HOPEFULLY you mean she just HAPPENED to do those same things as Britt. HOPEFULLY you aren't insinuating that she PURPOSELLY did those things to try and follow Britt.

HOLD IT! I just found out that this entire story is one big fabrication, and that it was confirmed this morning on The View that Chris did not break that window nor did he demonstrate any rage-filled tantrums backstage. Did anyone here see Hot Topics today?

Besides, if he did throw a chair like that and resultingly damaged property, with ABC's security guards EVERYWHERE, he would have been restrained, prohibited from exiting the building, and quickly arrested.

Now I'm not believing this. Nothing but sensationalism.

Rihanna is having to cancel several dates on her world tour because of lack of ticket sales. Chris Brown has resorted to showhing his penis, dyeing his har blonde, appearing with has been Bow Wow on 106 and Park - boy if they didn't look like homosexual lovers, both sagging, dressed nearly alike and even doing a little choreography together; and now he has a major meltdown this morning on Good Morning America.

These damn artists of today aren't shi+!

Sex tapes, drugs, rehab, theft, assault, nude pics, auto-tune and overblown egos - yuck at where the music biz is now.

Wacka Flocka Flame nude for PETA, what a mess - it just beyond word at this point.

angel345 said:

SonOfSoul said:

Their agenda has been the same as it's always been - ratings. They know the bigger topic is his Rihanna beatdown than his wack-ass CD, so that's what they're going to push. Also, he kinda fucked himself by not ever really coming out and talking about it, so he HAS to know that interviewers are gonna prod his stupid ass to give up the goods on what happened that night.

Ok true, but there's a proper forum, time and place for that, I believe. Not when you're trying to promote your CD, and then Rihanna's name comes up. Does that make sense for the media to do that?

The media don't give a shit about another person's agenda. The media wants ratings, at all costs and at anyone's expense.

Musicslave said:

musicjunky318 said:

I'm dead serious. The truth is in the pudding.

Where's the proof?

You do know she was modeled afer Britney right? Jessica, Mandy, all of them. RCA saw Spears' success and followed the same formula. Britney is virginal (1998-2000) Christina is virginal. Britney does "I'm A Slave 4 U" (2001) Christina does "Dirrty." Britney signs an endorsement deal with Pepsi. Christina promotes Coca-Cola. Britney branches out into acting (2001) Christina's debut is also "a small town girl who wants to make it as a singer." Britney starts a family (2004) Christina gets married and pregnant. Britney has a breakdown (2007) Christina starts acting up.

But no it's just all a coincidence.

WaterInYourBath said:

HOLD IT! I just found out that this entire story is one big fabrication, and that it was confirmed this morning on The View that Chris did not break that window nor did he demonstrate any rage-filled tantrums backstage. Did anyone here see Hot Topics today?

Besides, if he did throw a chair like that and resultingly damaged property, with ABC's security guards EVERYWHERE, he would have been restrained, prohibited from exiting the building, and quickly arrested.

Now I'm not believing this. Nothing but sensationalism.

What???

You GOT to be kidding me...

SonOfSoul said:

angel345 said:

Ok true, but there's a proper forum, time and place for that, I believe. Not when you're trying to promote your CD, and then Rihanna's name comes up. Does that make sense for the media to do that?

The media don't give a shit about another person's agenda. The media wants ratings, at all costs and at anyone's expense.

Only the strong survives in the music business, I see

So apparently the chair incident did NOT happen!

What the fuck is going on? Is the media having a SLOW news day?!

And Chris Brown is still stupid for that tweet.

This is ridiculous.

Chris Brown should NEVER compare his public outbursts and trials with Charlie Sheen or any other overrated entertainer.

HE CANNOT DO WHAT THEY DO! Yes they say Charlie is crazy or Lindsey Lohan is crazy but they can always make a come back without too much damage.

I say RISE ABOVE, take anger managment classes, humble himself.

He's a young BLACK man.....he's got to try harder then others. That will cement him truly as talented.

Lol...I did catch the view actually...home sick so I watched all the morning shows. I think the ladies on The View said they weren't positive it was Chris who threw the the chair..it may have been someone in his entourage...regardless it still looks bad on him...why are they vandalizing the place...also he was alledegly screaming and carrying on and scaring the staff..so security was called....and why was he storming out the place with no shirt on lol

Besides ABC news is confirming the details now so it does look like this all went down.

Timmy84 said:

WaterInYourBath said:

HOLD IT! I just found out that this entire story is one big fabrication, and that it was confirmed this morning on The View that Chris did not break that window nor did he demonstrate any rage-filled tantrums backstage. Did anyone here see Hot Topics today?

Besides, if he did throw a chair like that and resultingly damaged property, with ABC's security guards EVERYWHERE, he would have been restrained, prohibited from exiting the building, and quickly arrested.

Now I'm not believing this. Nothing but sensationalism.

What???

You GOT to be kidding me...

Nope, although I didn't see GMA nor The View this morning, so I'm just finding out about this online. And on all these websites, the reports are loaded with discrepancies, since, for example, they state that he immediately "stormed into his dressing room," enraged after Robin's interview (seemingly at the point where that initial YouTube video posted a few pages ago ends). BUT, I've just discovered that he did not, and he actually DID perform after she talked with him:

And then you can see that he calmly walked off stage after the song. This is a set up. A clever, "defaming" set up. Oh the irony.

People are throwing the word artist around all over this thread when it doesn't apply.

lavender1983 said:

Lol...I did catch the view actually...home sick so I watched all the morning shows. I think the ladies on The View said they weren't positive it was Chris who threw the the chair..it may have been someone in his entourage...regardless it still looks bad on him...why are they vandalizing the place...also he was alledegly screaming and carrying on and scaring the staff..so security was called....and why was he storming out the place with no shirt on lol

Besides ABC news is confirming the details now so it does look like this all went down.

Hmm strange.