missfee said:

Efan said:

One other way of avoiding it: Don't beat up a woman.

As well as the woman keeping her hands to herself as well when she probably already KNEW he had an anger problem (As she probably does too ). Just sayin'.

[Edited 3/22/11 11:33am]

Seriously?

Timmy84 said:

His "enemy" is his own damn self.

After his BET "Man In The Mirror" performance I really thought he was learning. But it seems like he got even angrier after that.

musicjunky318 said:

Timmy84 said:

His "enemy" is his own damn self.

After his BET "Man In The Mirror" performance I really thought he was learning. But it seems like he got even angrier after that.

He didn't learn shit. That performance was an attention whoring moment.

Timmy84 said:

Timmy84 said:

Musicslave said:

Yep! "Self-destruction, ya headed for self destruction!"

Yeah and the funniest thing is he was all pissy on Twitter about "THEY WOULDN'T STOP ASKING ME!" That just further proves that he has no intentions of calming down. He won't get a pat on the back like Mike Tyson did. All Mike did was get his boxing license revoked - twice - but they still let him fight though. Obviously the differences in that is Mike's a boxer and Chris is an entertainer.

Just shut the fuck up Chris! You agreed to answer the freakin questions. Quit frontin. Let your music sell itself. Christopher, shut the fuck up and learn some self control muhfucka! Damn....he got me upset reading that shit.

[Edited 3/22/11 11:56am]

I see the immaturity and don't agree with his actions but I probably would have had the urge to bitch smack the next person who inquired about the incident.
He really needs a new team of people around him because obviously the current group is failing. That young man has some issues and unfortunately the immaturity, well the lack there is, is quite disturbing.
I think he has a lot of potential if he got away from "posing" all of the time. Look at the tats I mean REALLY what the he'll is that all about?! I was also tired of hearing about Prince's ass pants for 10 years after the initial incident so yeah u guys are right it will either haunt him or IMO kill him.

Timmy84 said:

musicjunky318 said:

After his BET "Man In The Mirror" performance I really thought he was learning. But it seems like he got even angrier after that.

He didn't learn shit. That performance was an attention whoring moment.

I have to say that was the one time I actually felt he was being sincere since all of this mess. I guess I was in the minority but I actually believed those tears.

trueiopian said:

SonOfSoul said:

Nope. True. There was no visual evidence of what he was doing with Aaliyah. He didn't have a VIDEO with his face all up in her ass like he did with the young skank. HUGE difference. VISUALS.

Eh the VISUAL is the marriage certificate that was in Vibe magazine back in the early 90's. It would make much more sense if you said if the girl in the video was white he would probably suffer a big backlash.

[Edited 3/22/11 11:45am]

Please! A fuckin' piece of paper ain't shit for shock value! If there was a video with R. Kelly pissin' on Aaliyah, that shit would be MAJOR FUCKING NEWS! VISUALS! Not some damn piece of paper!

lavender1983 said:

Timmy84 said:

He didn't learn shit. That performance was an attention whoring moment.

I have to say that was the one time I actually felt he was being sincere since all of this mess. I guess I was in the minority but I actually believed those tears.

Yea me too. I thought it was a heartfelt thing and all.

Musicslave said:

Timmy84 said:

Yeah and the funniest thing is he was all pissy on Twitter about "THEY WOULDN'T STOP ASKING ME!" That just further proves that he has no intentions of calming down. He won't get a pat on the back like Mike Tyson did. All Mike did was get his boxing license revoked - twice - but they still let him fight though. Obviously the differences in that is Mike's a boxer and Chris is an entertainer.

Just shut the fuck up Chris! You agreed to answer the freakin questions. Quit frontin. Let your music sell itself. Christopher, shut the fuck up and learn some self control muhfucka! Damn....he got me upset reading that shit.

[Edited 3/22/11 11:56am]

Yeah. Like I said no one should interview him ever again. And watch, if he ever survives 10 years in this business, they'll still ask him if he lets them.

SonOfSoul said:

trueiopian said:

Eh the VISUAL is the marriage certificate that was in Vibe magazine back in the early 90's. It would make much more sense if you said if the girl in the video was white he would probably suffer a big backlash.

[Edited 3/22/11 11:45am]

Please! A fuckin' piece of paper ain't shit for shock value! If there was a video with R. Kelly pissin' on Aaliyah, that shit would be MAJOR FUCKING NEWS! VISUALS! Not some damn piece of paper!

Seriously, it wouldn't. If a marriage certificate didn't do shit. I don't see how a video is going to shock the world. Especially, when he's the bigger artist with a cemented career. People are going to be all "Oh shit!" the same way they were when the video was released of another girl in 2002. The same reaction.

The only reason people are bugging out about Chris Brown's situation is because Rihanna is a bigger artist with a bigger brand. I bet if he knocked Ciara the hell out nobody would look her way except for Pressure and 2 of her other stans.

trueiopian said:

SonOfSoul said:

Please! A fuckin' piece of paper ain't shit for shock value! If there was a video with R. Kelly pissin' on Aaliyah, that shit would be MAJOR FUCKING NEWS! VISUALS! Not some damn piece of paper!

Seriously, it wouldn't. If a marriage certificate didn't do shit. I don't see how a video is going to shock the world. Especially, when he's the bigger artist with a cemented career. People are going to be all "Oh shit!" the same way they were when the video was released of another girl in 2002. The same reaction.

The only reason people are bugging out about Chris Brown's situation is because Rihanna is a bigger artist with a bigger brand. I bet if he knocked Ciara the hell out nobody would look her way except for Pressure and 2 of her other stans.

I'm sorry but this right here is too funny!!!

trueiopian said:

SonOfSoul said:

Please! A fuckin' piece of paper ain't shit for shock value! If there was a video with R. Kelly pissin' on Aaliyah, that shit would be MAJOR FUCKING NEWS! VISUALS! Not some damn piece of paper!

Seriously, it wouldn't. If a marriage certificate didn't do shit. I don't see how a video is going to shock the world. Especially, when he's the bigger artist with a cemented career. People are going to be all "Oh shit!" the same way they were when the video was released of another girl in 2002. The same reaction.

The only reason people are bugging out about Chris Brown's situation is because Rihanna is a bigger artist with a bigger brand. I bet if he knocked Ciara the hell out nobody would look her way except for Pressure and 2 of her other stans.

WHAAAAT!!!!!!!!!! You think visual evidence of a marriage by way of a marriage certificate is A MORE POWERFUL VISUAL THAN A VIDEO PISSING ON AALIYAH! GETDAFUGGOUTTAHEA!

SonOfSoul said:

trueiopian said:

Seriously, it wouldn't. If a marriage certificate didn't do shit. I don't see how a video is going to shock the world. Especially, when he's the bigger artist with a cemented career. People are going to be all "Oh shit!" the same way they were when the video was released of another girl in 2002. The same reaction.

The only reason people are bugging out about Chris Brown's situation is because Rihanna is a bigger artist with a bigger brand. I bet if he knocked Ciara the hell out nobody would look her way except for Pressure and 2 of her other stans.

WHAAAAT!!!!!!!!!! You think visual evidence of a marriage by way of a marriage certificate is A MORE POWERFUL VISUAL THAN A VIDEO PISSING ON AALIYAH! GETDAFUGGOUTTAHEA!

Wtf

I said that people saw the VISUAL of a certificate that they were both married and a video would most likely be the same reaction he got for the 2002 one. It wouldn't have been bigger becaue more people know R. fucking Kelly than Aaliyah and on top of that she's a black girl so there would be less coverage. Why are you overreacting as if Aaliyah was on Madonna status and the whole world would weep if a tape of the two leaked? LMFAO! People in the R&B/Hip-Hop community already knew they were married but that didn't slow either of their careers. If anything it would've probably slowed Aaliyah's career more than his if a tape ever got out. End of.

What do you guys think of this article?:

salon.com:

>Topic:
Violence Against Women

Tuesday, Mar 22, 2011 13:23 ET

The media's treatment of Charlie Sheen vs Chris Brown

The R&B star's violent past is the subject of "GMA" interview. Why we give some stars a free pass on abuse Video
By Drew Grant

Chris Brown should be on top of the world. His new album F.A.M.E. dropped today, with already three #1 songs. It's also currently the most downloaded album on iTunes. So when Brown went on "Good Morning America" to talk to Robin Roberts, he was probably in a pretty good mood, and put on a game face to discuss his current status with Rihanna, his ex-girlfriend and pop star who Brown assaulted before the Grammy's in 2009.

But Robin didn't let the topic drop, and kept maneuvering their discussion back to the felony charges that Chris pleaded guilty to, along with the restraining order that the R&B star is trying to get downgraded. Chris struggled through the segment and then allegedly started getting violent: breaking the glass of his dressing room window, screaming, and ripping off his shirt.

While Brown's anger issues are certainly a topic for conversation, I just have to wonder: where was this tough line of questioning when Charlie Sheen was on ABC? After all, the actor also plead guilty to assault charges on ex-wife Brooke Mueller and according to the police reports taken that night, it wasn’t the first time Sheen had become physically violent with her, previously throwing her to the ground and causing a head injury severe enough to require medical assistance. (Neither Mueller nor Sheen reported the incident at the time.) And that wasn't the only incident. As Anna Holmes reported in The New York Times, Sheen's battery sheet --only against women -- is a mile long:

"In 1990, he accidentally shot his fiancée at the time, the actress Kelly Preston, in the arm. (The engagement ended soon after.) In 1994 he was sued by a college student who alleged that he struck her in the head after she declined to have sex with him. (The case was settled out of court.) Two years later, a sex film actress, Brittany Ashland, said she had been thrown to the floor of Mr. Sheen’s Los Angeles house during a fight. (He pleaded no contest and paid a fine.)...

Last October, another actress in sex films, Capri Anderson, locked herself in a Plaza Hotel bathroom after Mr. Sheen went on a rampage. (Ms. Anderson filed a criminal complaint but no arrest was made.) And on Tuesday, Ms. Mueller requested a temporary restraining order against her former husband, alleging that he had threatened to cut her head off, “put it in a box and send it to your mom.” (The order was granted, and the couple’s twin sons were quickly removed from his home.) “Lies,” Mr. Sheen told People magazine.

And yet when Sheen was doing his crazy-ass publicity tour, these items were barely touched upon, with interviewers like Piers Morgan and Andrea Channing not questioning Charlie's claims that he's never hit a woman. (Despite court orders and guilty charges that say otherwise.)"

This comparison did not escape Chris Brown, who tweeted directly after the "GMA" incident:

"I'm so over people bringing this past shit up!!! Yet we praise Charlie sheen and other celebs for there bullshit!"

Brown later deleted the tweet.

Look, all domestic violence is terrible, and celebrities are not above being held accountable for their actions. But what a dark double-standard that Chris must continually answer for his actions, unable to be known as anything other than "the guy who beat up Rihanna" while Sheen gets a free pass, possibly because none of the women he hurt were famous enough to bother caring about.

Bulldog said:

Does anyone realize that his album drops today and this is just a premeditated publicity stunt to make him rise to the top of the celebrity gossip chain!!

The top two threads on this forum are about Chris Brown.....nuff said.

Don't believe the hype people. His plan is working beautifully. I still dont care about him or the record.

This is how I usually think.....You may be right.

trueiopian said:

SonOfSoul said:

WHAAAAT!!!!!!!!!! You think visual evidence of a marriage by way of a marriage certificate is A MORE POWERFUL VISUAL THAN A VIDEO PISSING ON AALIYAH! GETDAFUGGOUTTAHEA!

Wtf

I said that people saw the VISUAL of a certificate that they were both married and a video would most likely be the same reaction he got for the 2002 one. It wouldn't have been bigger becaue more people know R. fucking Kelly than Aaliyah and on top of that she's a black girl so there would be less coverage. Why are you overreacting as if Aaliyah was on Madonna status and the whole world would weep if a tape of the two leaked? LMFAO! People in the R&B/Hip-Hop community already knew they were married but that didn't slow either of their careers. If anything it would've probably slowed Aaliyah's career more than his if a tape ever got out. End of.

Please! Rihanna wasn't on Madonna's status and you see how the pics of her ass beating added WAY more fuel to the firestorm. That's the point. No one gives a fuck about a marriage certificate, but people DO give a fuck about pictures of a battered pop star. That's what you're not getting VISUALS, not some damn piece of paper. VISUALS! Get it now?

Musicslave said:

What do you guys think of this article?:

salon.com:

>Topic:
Violence Against Women

Tuesday, Mar 22, 2011 13:23 ET

The media's treatment of Charlie Sheen vs Chris Brown

The R&B star's violent past is the subject of "GMA" interview. Why we give some stars a free pass on abuse Video
By Drew Grant

Chris Brown should be on top of the world. His new album F.A.M.E. dropped today, with already three #1 songs. It's also currently the most downloaded album on iTunes. So when Brown went on "Good Morning America" to talk to Robin Roberts, he was probably in a pretty good mood, and put on a game face to discuss his current status with Rihanna, his ex-girlfriend and pop star who Brown assaulted before the Grammy's in 2009.

But Robin didn't let the topic drop, and kept maneuvering their discussion back to the felony charges that Chris pleaded guilty to, along with the restraining order that the R&B star is trying to get downgraded. Chris struggled through the segment and then allegedly started getting violent: breaking the glass of his dressing room window, screaming, and ripping off his shirt.

While Brown's anger issues are certainly a topic for conversation, I just have to wonder: where was this tough line of questioning when Charlie Sheen was on ABC? After all, the actor also plead guilty to assault charges on ex-wife Brooke Mueller and according to the police reports taken that night, it wasn’t the first time Sheen had become physically violent with her, previously throwing her to the ground and causing a head injury severe enough to require medical assistance. (Neither Mueller nor Sheen reported the incident at the time.) And that wasn't the only incident. As Anna Holmes reported in The New York Times, Sheen's battery sheet --only against women -- is a mile long:

"In 1990, he accidentally shot his fiancée at the time, the actress Kelly Preston, in the arm. (The engagement ended soon after.) In 1994 he was sued by a college student who alleged that he struck her in the head after she declined to have sex with him. (The case was settled out of court.) Two years later, a sex film actress, Brittany Ashland, said she had been thrown to the floor of Mr. Sheen’s Los Angeles house during a fight. (He pleaded no contest and paid a fine.)...

Last October, another actress in sex films, Capri Anderson, locked herself in a Plaza Hotel bathroom after Mr. Sheen went on a rampage. (Ms. Anderson filed a criminal complaint but no arrest was made.) And on Tuesday, Ms. Mueller requested a temporary restraining order against her former husband, alleging that he had threatened to cut her head off, “put it in a box and send it to your mom.” (The order was granted, and the couple’s twin sons were quickly removed from his home.) “Lies,” Mr. Sheen told People magazine.

And yet when Sheen was doing his crazy-ass publicity tour, these items were barely touched upon, with interviewers like Piers Morgan and Andrea Channing not questioning Charlie's claims that he's never hit a woman. (Despite court orders and guilty charges that say otherwise.)"

This comparison did not escape Chris Brown, who tweeted directly after the "GMA" incident:

"I'm so over people bringing this past shit up!!! Yet we praise Charlie sheen and other celebs for there bullshit!"

Brown later deleted the tweet.

Look, all domestic violence is terrible, and celebrities are not above being held accountable for their actions. But what a dark double-standard that Chris must continually answer for his actions, unable to be known as anything other than "the guy who beat up Rihanna" while Sheen gets a free pass, possibly because none of the women he hurt were famous enough to bother caring about.

Mainly because Sheen didn't beatdown a pop superstar. Had Sheen been dating Lady Gaga and he fucked her up and the pics got out, his shit would MORE THAN LIKELY be as fucked up as Chris'. The bottomline is, no one knows (or cares) about Sheen's hoes because they aren't famous.

SonOfSoul said:

trueiopian said:

Wtf

I said that people saw the VISUAL of a certificate that they were both married and a video would most likely be the same reaction he got for the 2002 one. It wouldn't have been bigger becaue more people know R. fucking Kelly than Aaliyah and on top of that she's a black girl so there would be less coverage. Why are you overreacting as if Aaliyah was on Madonna status and the whole world would weep if a tape of the two leaked? LMFAO! People in the R&B/Hip-Hop community already knew they were married but that didn't slow either of their careers. If anything it would've probably slowed Aaliyah's career more than his if a tape ever got out. End of.

Please! Rihanna wasn't on Madonna's status and you see how the pics of her ass beating added WAY more fuel to the firestorm. That's the point. No one gives a fuck about a marriage certificate, but people DO give a fuck about pictures of a battered pop star. That's what you're not getting VISUALS, not some damn piece of paper. VISUALS! Get it now?

Rihanna is Rihanna. She's a bigger artist than Chris Brown so it was a BIG deal when Chris attacked her. Like I said, if he attacked Ciara or Amerie then it wouldn't be as big. Probably a brief mention on CNN and full coverage on MTO and other gossip sites.

Do YOU get it now!?

SonOfSoul said:

Musicslave said:

What do you guys think of this article?:

salon.com:

>Topic:
Violence Against Women

Tuesday, Mar 22, 2011 13:23 ET

The media's treatment of Charlie Sheen vs Chris Brown

The R&B star's violent past is the subject of "GMA" interview. Why we give some stars a free pass on abuse Video
By Drew Grant

Chris Brown should be on top of the world. His new album F.A.M.E. dropped today, with already three #1 songs. It's also currently the most downloaded album on iTunes. So when Brown went on "Good Morning America" to talk to Robin Roberts, he was probably in a pretty good mood, and put on a game face to discuss his current status with Rihanna, his ex-girlfriend and pop star who Brown assaulted before the Grammy's in 2009.

But Robin didn't let the topic drop, and kept maneuvering their discussion back to the felony charges that Chris pleaded guilty to, along with the restraining order that the R&B star is trying to get downgraded. Chris struggled through the segment and then allegedly started getting violent: breaking the glass of his dressing room window, screaming, and ripping off his shirt.

While Brown's anger issues are certainly a topic for conversation, I just have to wonder: where was this tough line of questioning when Charlie Sheen was on ABC? After all, the actor also plead guilty to assault charges on ex-wife Brooke Mueller and according to the police reports taken that night, it wasn’t the first time Sheen had become physically violent with her, previously throwing her to the ground and causing a head injury severe enough to require medical assistance. (Neither Mueller nor Sheen reported the incident at the time.) And that wasn't the only incident. As Anna Holmes reported in The New York Times, Sheen's battery sheet --only against women -- is a mile long:

"In 1990, he accidentally shot his fiancée at the time, the actress Kelly Preston, in the arm. (The engagement ended soon after.) In 1994 he was sued by a college student who alleged that he struck her in the head after she declined to have sex with him. (The case was settled out of court.) Two years later, a sex film actress, Brittany Ashland, said she had been thrown to the floor of Mr. Sheen’s Los Angeles house during a fight. (He pleaded no contest and paid a fine.)...

Last October, another actress in sex films, Capri Anderson, locked herself in a Plaza Hotel bathroom after Mr. Sheen went on a rampage. (Ms. Anderson filed a criminal complaint but no arrest was made.) And on Tuesday, Ms. Mueller requested a temporary restraining order against her former husband, alleging that he had threatened to cut her head off, “put it in a box and send it to your mom.” (The order was granted, and the couple’s twin sons were quickly removed from his home.) “Lies,” Mr. Sheen told People magazine.

And yet when Sheen was doing his crazy-ass publicity tour, these items were barely touched upon, with interviewers like Piers Morgan and Andrea Channing not questioning Charlie's claims that he's never hit a woman. (Despite court orders and guilty charges that say otherwise.)"

This comparison did not escape Chris Brown, who tweeted directly after the "GMA" incident:

"I'm so over people bringing this past shit up!!! Yet we praise Charlie sheen and other celebs for there bullshit!"

Brown later deleted the tweet.

Look, all domestic violence is terrible, and celebrities are not above being held accountable for their actions. But what a dark double-standard that Chris must continually answer for his actions, unable to be known as anything other than "the guy who beat up Rihanna" while Sheen gets a free pass, possibly because none of the women he hurt were famous enough to bother caring about.

Mainly because Sheen didn't beatdown a pop superstar. Had Sheen been dating Lady Gaga and he fucked her up and the pics got out, his shit would MORE THAN LIKELY be as fucked up as Chris'. The bottomline is, no one knows (or cares) about Sheen's hoes because they aren't famous.

Yeah Ike Turner's career suffered for years because his whupping Tina Turner became public knowledge and Tina was more famous than he was lol

It's gonna be quite interesting to see sales predictions tomorrow. This could either fuel more interest in the album or create another backlash.

I honestly think it could go either way.

musicjunky318 said:

It's gonna be quite interesting to see sales predictions tomorrow. This could either fuel more interest in the album or create another backlash.

I honestly think it could go either way.

As it often does.

trueiopian said:

SonOfSoul said:

Please! Rihanna wasn't on Madonna's status and you see how the pics of her ass beating added WAY more fuel to the firestorm. That's the point. No one gives a fuck about a marriage certificate, but people DO give a fuck about pictures of a battered pop star. That's what you're not getting VISUALS, not some damn piece of paper. VISUALS! Get it now?

Rihanna is Rihanna. She's a bigger artist than Chris Brown so it was a BIG deal when Chris attacked her. Like I said, if he attacked Ciara or Amerie then it wouldn't be as big. Probably a brief mention on CNN and full coverage on MTO and other gossip sites.

Do YOU get it now!?

Read it again. Rihanna is a pop princess WHO HAD PHOTOS OF HER ASSBEATING LEAKED TO THE PUBLIC. But you go right ahead and keep thinking the VISUALS don't play a role in all of this. I would say "Get it now?" but you never will anyway.

Timmy84 said:

SonOfSoul said:

Mainly because Sheen didn't beatdown a pop superstar. Had Sheen been dating Lady Gaga and he fucked her up and the pics got out, his shit would MORE THAN LIKELY be as fucked up as Chris'. The bottomline is, no one knows (or cares) about Sheen's hoes because they aren't famous.

Yeah Ike Turner's career suffered for years because his whupping Tina Turner became public knowledge and Tina was more famous than he was lol

Now imagine if there had been photos of Tina's face after some of those beatings? You see how people reacted in the film when they showed some of those beatings.

SonOfSoul said:

trueiopian said:

Rihanna is Rihanna. She's a bigger artist than Chris Brown so it was a BIG deal when Chris attacked her. Like I said, if he attacked Ciara or Amerie then it wouldn't be as big. Probably a brief mention on CNN and full coverage on MTO and other gossip sites.

Do YOU get it now!?

Read it again. Rihanna is a pop princess WHO HAD PHOTOS OF HER ASSBEATING LEAKED TO THE PUBLIC. But you go right ahead and keep thinking the VISUALS don't play a role in all of this. I would say "Get it now?" but you never will anyway.

I never said she didn't have photos of her ass-beating. I said that if she weren't a BIG artist or BIGGER than Chris Brown then the reaction wouldn't have been as BIG as the it was. It's really not that hard of a concept to grasp.

trueiopian is trying to say that her popularity played a role, which it did.

It's like Floptina having her breakdown now. It'll stay in the news for a week or two but I mean other than that it's not gonna dominant coverage because she's irrelevant and nobody cares. Her getting all drunk and pissy is still sort of underground.

Flop could have pulled the same head-shave like Britney and it wouldn't have been as big of a deal.

trueiopian said:

SonOfSoul said:

Read it again. Rihanna is a pop princess WHO HAD PHOTOS OF HER ASSBEATING LEAKED TO THE PUBLIC. But you go right ahead and keep thinking the VISUALS don't play a role in all of this. I would say "Get it now?" but you never will anyway.

I never said she didn't have photos of her ass-beating. I said that if she weren't a BIG artist or BIGGER than Chris Brown then the reaction wouldn't have been as BIG as the it was. It's really not that hard of a concept to grasp.

Duh! YOU need to learn how to read. I never said you say that. My whole point is, VISUAL evidence of the beating of a famous person is gonna trump a damn marriage certificate in terms of shock value. Had R. Kelly had a sex video with Aaliyah and she was underaged, that shit would've been way more powerful than a marriage certificate.

musicjunky318 said:

trueiopian is trying to say that her popularity played a role, which it did.

It's like Floptina having her breakdown now. It'll stay in the news for a week or two but I mean other than that it's not gonna dominant coverage because she's irrelevant and nobody cares. Her getting all drunk and pissy is still sort of underground.

Flop could have pulled the same head-shave like Britney and it wouldn't have been as big of a deal.

That's what I've always been saying, so no one's denying that. This was about his comment that the R. Kelly incident WOULDN'T have been bigger if his sexual exploits had been with someone famous. I stated had he had a tape fucking around with Aaliya the shit would've been way bigger than it was and it's his contention that it wouldn't have since there was evidence of a marriage certificate.