Timmy84 said:

CocoRock said:

Timmy84 said:

Jennifer Hudson's got an album out on the same day's as Chris Brown's. Get it now?

Sorry. Should've been clearer. My confused emoticon was in reference to your first sentence. Who's using the ORG to promote an artist?

Oh. No, someone said something about the fact that Chris Brown had two threads here was giving him attention, and I think they mentioned the album coming out today. That's why I made the statement. Sorry for the confusion.

musicjunky318 said:

SonOfSoul said:

The major difference between Sheen and Chris is, Sheen didn't beatdown a pop princess. Sheen fucks with trashy, porn hoes, so no one gives a fuck about thoes hoes. Chris beatdown Rihanna - she's famous and beloved. Had Sheen beatdown Denise Richards and then the photos got leaked, Sheen would've been shitted on as much as Brown is getting shitted on. Is there a race element to it? Probably so. But Chris' anger issues are what's fucking him up, while Sheen's "Lord of the Rings"-ish outbursts are just comedy and not hurting anyone.

Plus Chris & Rihanna are black so that brings in a racial element.

I think the timing of the domestic dispute played a factor as well. They had to skip an awards appearance because of what happened. As for Charlie though, I would think his violent temper aimed at the mother of his children (both Denise and this most recent woman) would carry more weight as opposed to his many random hoes and whatever transpired with them. You don't beat up a pop princess or your baby momma.

Timmy84 said:

HotGritz said:

musicjunky318 said:

Plus Chris & Rihanna are black so that brings in a racial element.

I think the timing of the domestic dispute played a factor as well. They had to skip an awards appearance because of what happened. As for Charlie though, I would think his violent temper aimed at the mother of his children (both Denise and this most recent woman) would carry more weight as opposed to his many random hoes and whatever transpired with them. You don't beat up a pop princess or your baby momma.

Race never plays a role in these type of things........( )

I don't think it's because he's black. It's because Rihanna is famous.

Why would the world care if the victim was a regular black girl? Like they cared so much with R. Kelly? Please.

He's lucky the glass didn't shatter. That chair surely would have killed someone. Oh well. No real surprise here.

HotGritz said:

musicjunky318 said:

Plus Chris & Rihanna are black so that brings in a racial element.

I think the timing of the domestic dispute played a factor as well. They had to skip an awards appearance because of what happened. As for Charlie though, I would think his violent temper aimed at the mother of his children (both Denise and this most recent woman) would carry more weight as opposed to his many random hoes and whatever transpired with them. You don't beat up a pop princess or your baby momma.

Both dramas are uncalled for, both are dead wrong, both need help. But the media spin often differs due to the players involved.

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StillDirrty said:

I don't think it's because he's black. It's because Rihanna is famous.

Why would the world care if the victim was a regular black girl? Like they cared so much with R. Kelly? Please.

It's three things: the business and being young and dumb!

musicjunky318 said:

HotGritz said:

I think the timing of the domestic dispute played a factor as well. They had to skip an awards appearance because of what happened. As for Charlie though, I would think his violent temper aimed at the mother of his children (both Denise and this most recent woman) would carry more weight as opposed to his many random hoes and whatever transpired with them. You don't beat up a pop princess or your baby momma.

Both dramas are uncalled for, both are dead wrong, both need help. But the media spin often differs due to the players involved.

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I agree. Like I said, both Charlie and Chris could co-headline a tour together. Call it the Bi-Winning, Desperately Need Anger Management Tour. Charlie can do his jokes about Duckie being a troll and Chris can dedicate the song "Deuces" to Robin Roberts.

His main disadvantage is the inability to articulate his thoughts. He's practically monosyllabic.

StillDirrty said:

I don't think it's because he's black. It's because Rihanna is famous.

Why would the world care if the victim was a regular black girl? Like they cared so much with R. Kelly? Please.

I didn't say it was because he's black. I said it just ultimately becomes a component to the story even though race has nothing to do with it.

Search the net and see how many people have called Chris a nigger and a monkey. The "All black men beat their women" talk, he should be "hung from a tree."

No doubt he was wrong for what he did but there's a lot of people that don't leave it at just that.

silverchild said:

StillDirrty said:

I don't think it's because he's black. It's because Rihanna is famous.

Why would the world care if the victim was a regular black girl? Like they cared so much with R. Kelly? Please.

It's three things: the business and being young and dumb!

Yep.

musicjunky318 said:

StillDirrty said:

I don't think it's because he's black. It's because Rihanna is famous.

Why would the world care if the victim was a regular black girl? Like they cared so much with R. Kelly? Please.

I didn't say it was because he's black. I said it just ultimately becomes a component to the story even though race has nothing to do with it.

Search the net and see how many people have called Chris a nigger and a monkey. The "All black men beat their women" talk, he should be "hung from a tree."

No doubt he was wrong for what he did but there's a lot of people that don't leave it at just that.

I don't think anyone doubts that but at the same time I'm not condoning it either. You saw how many black entertainers refuse to associate themselves with Chris after 2009? Like I said he's on his own now.

musicjunky318 said:

StillDirrty said:

I don't think it's because he's black. It's because Rihanna is famous.

Why would the world care if the victim was a regular black girl? Like they cared so much with R. Kelly? Please.

I didn't say it was because he's black. I said it just ultimately becomes a component to the story even though race has nothing to do with it.

Search the net and see how many people have called Chris a nigger and a monkey. The "All black men beat their women" talk, he should be "hung from a tree."

No doubt he was wrong for what he did but there's a lot of people that don't leave it at just that.

I've seen more comments that refer to Rihanna's race/ethnicity as an "Island Girl" as to why she probably provoked him.

SCNDLS said:

DAV123 said:

SCNDLS said:

So, Chris is still being villified while Charlie Sheen don't get charged with shit and is celebrated in his meltdown.

Exactly it's ridiculous at this point! Obviously he has a short fuse we know this so WHY must we bring up the shit over and over again! You have a new album coming out and all everyone can do is bring up is the beating! Give me a fucking break already, damn.

That's really the only thing MOST know him for now. If you're expecting them to DROP it forget it. People were still talking about Janet's titty years after the fact. This is what the media is now. They sure didn't let Madame Glambarf forget he hump his dick in someone's mouth at the AMA's so they're not gonna forget that Chris did an Ike Turner on Rihanna.

JackieBlue said:

Timmy84 said:

musicjunky318 said:

I didn't say it was because he's black. I said it just ultimately becomes a component to the story even though race has nothing to do with it.

Search the net and see how many people have called Chris a nigger and a monkey. The "All black men beat their women" talk, he should be "hung from a tree."

No doubt he was wrong for what he did but there's a lot of people that don't leave it at just that.

I don't think anyone doubts that but at the same time I'm not condoning it either. You saw how many black entertainers refuse to associate themselves with Chris after 2009? Like I said he's on his own now.

Oh me neither. I would have had no problem if he went to jail. He was guilty as sin and deserved to be punished. All I'm saying is that it just spices up the story. If Justin Bieber beat up Miley Cyrus he'd be called an idiot, a loser, and a woman-beater. With Chris, he's an idiot, a loser, a woman-beater AND a nigger and monkey.

musicjunky318 said:

Timmy84 said:

I don't think anyone doubts that but at the same time I'm not condoning it either. You saw how many black entertainers refuse to associate themselves with Chris after 2009? Like I said he's on his own now.

Oh me neither. I would have had no problem if he went to jail. He was guilty as sin and deserved to be punished. All I'm saying is that it just spices up the story. If Justin Bieber beat up Miley Cyrus he'd be called an idiot, a loser, and a woman-beater. With Chris, he's an idiot, a loser, a woman-beater AND a nigger and monkey.

You know black folks, we do have the tendency to say the n-word if someone acts ignorant. Remember what Chris Rock was going on about 15 years ago? So two can play at that game. Believe me it ain't just bigots saying all of that.

Timmy84 said:

DAV123 said:

SCNDLS said: Exactly it's ridiculous at this point! Obviously he has a short fuse we know this so WHY must we bring up the shit over and over again! You have a new album coming out and all everyone can do is bring up is the beating! Give me a fucking break already, damn.

That's really the only thing MOST know him for now. If you're expecting them to DROP it forget it. People were still talking about Janet's titty years after the fact. This is what the media is now. They sure didn't let Madame Glambarf forget he hump his dick in someone's mouth at the AMA's so they're not gonna forget that Chris did an Ike Turner on Rihanna.

And you kind've get the feeling that Chris hasn't completely gotten over the whole thing as he's worried about his career. Last album tanked so now he's on his hands and knees begging for forgiveness and at the same time, trying to forget the situation and allude to it as well. Hence the new album is called F.A.M.E. (Forgiving All My Emenies). This guy certainly doesn't know what he wants and the media isn't doing him any justice. Now he has put his hand back on the plow and he's about to go through some crazy shit, possibly jail time.

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silverchild said:

Timmy84 said:

That's really the only thing MOST know him for now. If you're expecting them to DROP it forget it. People were still talking about Janet's titty years after the fact. This is what the media is now. They sure didn't let Madame Glambarf forget he hump his dick in someone's mouth at the AMA's so they're not gonna forget that Chris did an Ike Turner on Rihanna.

And you kind of get the feeling that Chris hasn't completely gotten over the whole thing as he's worried about his career. Last album tanked so now he's on his hands and knees begging for forgiveness and at the same time, trying to forget the situation. Hence the new album is called F.A.M.E. (Forgiving All My Emenies). This guy certainly doesn't know what he wants and the media isn't doing him any justice. Now he has put his hand back on the plow and he's about to go through some crazy shit, possibly jail time.

Yep! And he really has no one to blame but himself. I'm surprised they even gave him a second chance. NO ONE'S gonna forget about February 2009. NO ONE.

HotGritz said:

Timmy84 said:

Pretty much. He's on his own now. This generation of artists are ridiculous sometimes.

Speaking of Usher, y'all know he and Tameka made a sex tape right? Gotta love these artist of the last decade. Random ridickulosity.

LMFAO! Maybe I'm just goofy, but this made me burst out laughing!

Timmy84 said:

You know black folks, we do have the tendency to say the n-word if someone acts ignorant. Remember what Chris Rock was going on about 15 years ago? So two can play at that game. Believe me it ain't just bigots saying all of that.

I've never met a Black person who referred to another person as a "monkey" and then sugggested hanging said monkey.

Timmy84 said:

musicjunky318 said:

Oh me neither. I would have had no problem if he went to jail. He was guilty as sin and deserved to be punished. All I'm saying is that it just spices up the story. If Justin Bieber beat up Miley Cyrus he'd be called an idiot, a loser, and a woman-beater. With Chris, he's an idiot, a loser, a woman-beater AND a nigger and monkey.

You know black folks, we do have the tendency to say the n-word if someone acts ignorant. Remember what Chris Rock was going on about 15 years ago? So two can play at that game. Believe me it ain't just bigots saying all of that.

I'm talking about us too Timmy.

Timmy84 said:

silverchild said:

And you kind of get the feeling that Chris hasn't completely gotten over the whole thing as he's worried about his career. Last album tanked so now he's on his hands and knees begging for forgiveness and at the same time, trying to forget the situation. Hence the new album is called F.A.M.E. (Forgiving All My Emenies). This guy certainly doesn't know what he wants and the media isn't doing him any justice. Now he has put his hand back on the plow and he's about to go through some crazy shit, possibly jail time.

Yep! And he really has no one to blame but himself. I'm surprised they even gave him a second chance. NO ONE'S gonna forget about February 2009. NO ONE.

Exactly. He had to know that people are gonna bring things like that back up. COME ON NOW! It's even alledged that he agreed to discuss some aspects of the matter. I ain't buying the whole, "oh I'm focused on the new album...that's the past jazz!" No. If it was that deep, then he should've just said I don't want to perform or do an interview at GMA at all, walked it off and kept it moving.

Timmy84 said:

DAV123 said:

SCNDLS said: Exactly it's ridiculous at this point! Obviously he has a short fuse we know this so WHY must we bring up the shit over and over again! You have a new album coming out and all everyone can do is bring up is the beating! Give me a fucking break already, damn.

That's really the only thing MOST know him for now. If you're expecting them to DROP it forget it. People were still talking about Janet's titty years after the fact. This is what the media is now. They sure didn't let Madame Glambarf forget he hump his dick in someone's mouth at the AMA's so they're not gonna forget that Chris did an Ike Turner on Rihanna.

And rightfully so. Ike Turner will always be remembered for the abuse.

If Chris Brown didn't want to be known as a beater, then perhaps he shouldn't have beaten up his girlfriend.

There are consequences to actions. He could have turned it around, but throwing a gigantic hissy fit - and again showing his capacity for violence - is exactly the wrong way to do it.

Identity said:

Timmy84 said:

You know black folks, we do have the tendency to say the n-word if someone acts ignorant. Remember what Chris Rock was going on about 15 years ago? So two can play at that game. Believe me it ain't just bigots saying all of that.

I've never met a Black person who referred to another person as a "monkey" and then sugggested hanging said monkey.

No not necessarily in that sense but Timmy does have a point about same race discrimination.

Identity said:

Timmy84 said:

You know black folks, we do have the tendency to say the n-word if someone acts ignorant. Remember what Chris Rock was going on about 15 years ago? So two can play at that game. Believe me it ain't just bigots saying all of that.

I've never met a Black person who referred to another person as a "monkey" and then sugggested hanging said monkey.

No not "monkey". I meant the n-word.

silverchild said:

Timmy84 said:

Yep! And he really has no one to blame but himself. I'm surprised they even gave him a second chance. NO ONE'S gonna forget about February 2009. NO ONE.

Exactly. He had to know that people are gonna bring things like that back up. COME ON NOW! It's even alledged that he agreed to discuss some aspects of the matter. I ain't buying the whole, "oh I'm focused on the new album...that's the past jazz!" No. If it was that deep, then he should've just said I don't want to perform or do an interview at GMA at all, walked it off and kept it moving.

Or have his manager go "on no certain terms will you bring up Rihanna" but they didn't do that, did they? People should think before stepping back out in the public again.