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ME TOO! OMG......
I would love writing the exams...and studying would be a pleasure
And bless you Jay, for putting that up. It's cute | |
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-People still believe the crap about the allegations -The whole thing about if the kids are biologically his (which isn't anybody's business) -The crap with Arnold Klien and his chubby buddy running to TMZ saying Michael was gay and peed in public -Ian Halperin's book -All the stuff about his alleged addictions and his health
"We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." | |
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I pretty much shut that mess down when people bring that whole thing up "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." | |
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Anyone else remember hearing about this a few months back??? "I'm not human I'm a dove, I'm ur conscience. I am love" | |
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I do. I was going to buy some "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." | |
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Stephanie Mills radio interview from September 2010. You can take a black guy to Nashville from right out of the cotton fields with bib overalls, and they will call him R&B. You can take a white guy in a pin-stripe suit who’s never seen a cotton field, and they will call him country. ~ O. B. McClinton | |
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Concerning the upcoming Oprah interview, it would be really interesting if she brought up this statement issued to the press by the family back in 2007:
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/...mPress.bmp
I would love to hear what the family would have to say in response to this statement they released years ago, which directly contradicts what they have said publicly in the past year.
If you cant read it, this is what it says:
September 7, 2007
People magazine has followed other publications in reporting untrue and inaccurate information about Michael Jackson and the Jackson family. Of these widely reported rumors, what has become the most troubling and heinous, is that my son, and our brother, Michael Jackson, is dependent on painkillers and alcohol.
People, and other news organizations, have quoted "sources" indicating that our family has attempted a drug intervention, and engaged in an effort to take over his business affairs, because of this alleged drug and alcohol usage.
We categorically deny ever planning, participating in, or having knowledge of any kind of intervention, whatsoever. We strongly believe that these "sources" and others, no matter who they are, are making these defamatory, inaccurate, and untrue claims for monetary reasons.
Michael Jackson, and the Jackson family, has endured years of false accusations and misrepresentations.
It is time for these unfair and hurtful rumors, for profit, to end.
Thank you,
The statement is signed by Tito, Marlon, Jackie, Jermaine and Katherine Jackson.
[Edited 10/12/10 22:45pm] MJ L.O.V.E: https://www.facebook.com/...689&type=2 / YOUTUBE: http://www.youtube.com/us...nderSilent | |
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Oh they're not gonna bring that up... trust me. Act like it's not even there. | |
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Oh yeah Randy's upset about the Oprah shit too. He tweeted about it a few hours ago. | |
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If it was raised you can bet they'll pass it off as being "private" and not wanting people to get the wrong idea about Michael. "I'm not human I'm a dove, I'm ur conscience. I am love" | |
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Wow - watch this get absolutely no press. "I'm not human I'm a dove, I'm ur conscience. I am love" | |
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Randy's tweets
in fact, she is the last person on earth he would want around his children
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i had no prior knowledge this was going to happen. it was deliberately kept from me because they knew i would have tried to stop it
i found out Oprah was at our family home, my stomach ached and it still hasn't gone away
but i don't always agree with the choices they make. this is 1 of those times
1rst let me say that i love my mother and father. i am humbly grateful to have them as my parents
i know every 1 wants to know my position on the Oprah interview
i will continue to do my best with my family. all i need is your love and support. i will never give up | |
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You should just be the devil's advocate and say both of them suck and then say another unrelated artist is way better than them, like Justin Bieber, Lady Gaga, Lil Wayne, Elvis, or the Beatles. If you attack them both, then someone will stick up for the both of them. Also, you can amuse yourself by making up some silly arguments as you counter theirs. Hope that helps next time. [Edited 10/13/10 6:51am] | |
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Here's the DVD track listing. It's also released as a deluxe set with photo book. See more news releases in: Entertainment, Film and Motion Picture, Music, Television, New Products & Services Epic/Legacy Recordings to Release 'Michael Jackson's Vision,' the First-Ever Complete Collection of All the Short Films Produced by Michael Jackson Deluxe Boxed Set Features 4 1/2 Hours of Content Across Three DVDs Showcasing More Than 40 Videos In Newly Restored Color and Remastered Audio 'Michael Jackson's Vision' Available Everywhere Monday, November 22 NEW YORK, Oct. 13 /PRNewswire/ -- In collaboration with the Estate of Michael Jackson, Epic/Legacy Recordings is releasing Michael Jackson's Vision on November 22, making available for the first time ever the entire library of short films produced by Michael Jackson during his career as a solo artist. (Logo: http://photos.prnewswire....LEGACYLOGO ) (Logo: http://www.newscom.com/cg...LEGACYLOGO ) Packaged as a deluxe boxed set, Michael Jackson's Vision contains more than four-and-one-half hours of content across three DVDs, capturing the entire spectrum of Michael's pioneering short films that transformed the entertainment industry with timeless, pop culture classics that today's youth embrace with as much passion as their parents did a generation earlier. Michael Jackson's Vision brings together more than 40 videos, ten of them previously unavailable on DVD and each presented in newly restored color and remastered audio. And this release marks the debut of the short film for the R. Kelly-penned "One More Chance." The simultaneous emergence of MTV as a television force and Michael Jackson's breakout as a global superstar provided the most epochal musical/cultural shift since the Beatles. Seizing the potential of MTV's 24-hour reach, Michael Jackson produced and starred in a series of what would become iconic short musical films that redefined and established the perimeters, and parameters, of an entire new medium. Jackson's short-form zombie dance party masterpiece, "Thriller," famously directed by John Landis, remains a cultural phenomenon. It recently became the first (and only) music video to be inducted by the Library of Congress into the National Film Registry, an elite collection of only a few hundred films. Michael Jackson's Vision includes the full-length versions of the John Landis-directed "Thriller" and "Black or White" as well as the classic "Bad" directed by Academy Award ® -winning filmmaker Martin Scorsese. Also included in the boxed set are Michael's collaborations with such other noted film directors as John Singleton, Spike Lee and David Fincher as well as "Ghosts," his rarely-seen collaboration with special effects legend Stan Winston. Michael Jackson's Vision will be available in a limited edition deluxe boxed set featuring a 60-page glossy hard-bound book that includes behind-the-scenes photos from Michael's personal archives. The state-of-the-art packaging includes cover art using lenticular virtual imaging technology to vividly represent memorable scenes from Michael Jackson's signature short films. Michael Jackson's Vision DISC 1 1. Don't Stop 'Til You Get Enough 4:12:00 Director: Nick Saxton 2. Rock With You 3:22:00 Director: Bruce Gowers 3. She's Out of My Life 3:35:00 Director: Bruce Gowers 4. Billie Jean 4:54:00 Director: Steve Barron 5. Beat It 4:57:00 Director: Bob Giraldi 6. Thriller 13:42:00 Director: John Landis 7. Bad 18:05:00 Director: Martin Scorsese 8. The Way You Make Me Feel 9:24:00 Director: Joe Pytka 9. Man In the Mirror 5:03:00 Director: Don Wilson 10. Dirty Diana 5:05:00 Director: Joe Pytka 11. Smooth Criminal 9:27:00 Director: Colin Chilvers 12. Another Part of Me 4:45:00 Director: Patrick T. Kelly 13. Speed Demon 10:08:00 Director: Will Vinton 14. Come Together 5:40:00 Director: Jerry Kramer & Colin Chilvers 15. Leave Me Alone 4:36:00 Director: Jim Blashfield and Paul Diener 16. Liberian Girl 5:34:00 Director: Jim Yukich Total Disc 1 112:29:00 (01:52:29) DISC 2 1. Black or White 11:01:00 Director: John Landis 2. Remember The Time 9:16:00 Director: John Singleton 3. In the Closet 6:05:00 Director: Herb Ritts 4. Jam 7:59:00 Director: David Nelson 5. Heal The World 7:32:00 Director: Joe Pytka 6. Give In To Me 5:29:00 Director: Andy Morahan 7. Who Is It 6:34:00 Director: David Fincher 8. Will You Be There 5:55:00 Director: Vincent Paterson 9. Gone Too Soon 3:38:00 Director: Bill DiCicco 10. Scream 4:47:00 Director: Mark Romanek Janet Jackson appears courtesy of Virgin Records 11. Childhood 4:29:00 Director: Nicholas Brandt 12. You Are Not Alone 5:34:00 Director: Wayne Isham 13. Earth Song 6:44:00 Director: Nicholas Brandt 14. They Don't Care About Us 7:08:00 Director: Spike Lee 15. Stranger In Moskow 5:33:00 Director: Nicholas Brandt 16. Blood On The Dancefloor 5:27:00 Director: Michael Jackson & Vincent Patterson 17. Ghosts 3:58:00 Director: Stan Winston 18. You Rock My World 13:30:00 Director: Paul Hunter 19. Cry 4:57:00 Director: Nick Brandt Total Disc 2 125:36:00 (2:05:36) DISC 3 (Bonus Features) 1. Blame It On the Boogie - The Jacksons 3:32:00 2. Enjoy Yourself - The Jacksons 3:31:00 3. Can You Feel It - The Jacksons 9:37:00 4. Say Say Say - Paul McCartney & Michael Jackson 4:57:00 Director: Bob Giraldi 5. They Don't Care About Us - Prison version 4:52:00 Director: Spike Lee 6. Why? - 3T featuring Michael Jackson 4:33:00 7. One More Chance - previously unreleased 4:03:00 Total Disc 3 35:05:00 SOURCE Legacy Recordings Back to top RELATED LINKS http://www.legacyrecordings.com | |
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What most fans don't know is that the "MJ is a junkie and an alcoholic" stories' source is...Randy Jackson himself. Remember when those stories began? Remember when Randy was telling Friedman to write that his brother was a "junkie and an alcoholic"? Remember that he always used that story as a payback whenever he didn't get what he wanted from Michael?
And then people wonder why Michael told his bodyguards to escort Randy off his Las Vegas property. And then people wonder why his bodyguards had specific orders not to let him anywhere near Michael. They even threatened him with a gun, damnit. Was it because Randy is just a good, loving brother?
We all remember what happened during and after the trial. | |
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Same.
What I tell people is that if they think Michael is better than Prince, they don't know enough about Prince, and if they think Prince is better than Michael, they don't know enough about Michael.
The only real conclusion of that debate is that they were each others yin and yang. |
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His teeth look funny in this one. "When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all." | |
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interesting, especially since this statement is signed by tito and marlon, two of the brothers who have specifically talked about mj's alleged drug abuse in the uk tabloids right after his death. i don't recall jermaine or jackie jumping on the bandwagon; in fact jermaine has specifically stated that he knows of no interventions. i don't remember katherine saying anything, either, but given the fact that she has filed a lawsuit which portrays mj as 'weak, confused' etc., it would seem she is now altering her previous stance. murray's trial and any lawsuit trials are going to be very interesting indeed. | |
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Does anyone know if Best Buy or Target will offer exclusives with "Michael Jackson's Vision"? I was thinking of buying it on Sony's website today with the pre-order option, but don't wanna do that and then miss out on some goodies from Best Buy or Target.
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"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all." | |
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[img:$uid]http://img209.i.../img:$uid] "When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all." | |
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I´m gonna get it just for that One More Chance video. Can´t wait to see him again. "When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all." | |
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Some of the things I can remember off hand from the Saturday night symposium in Chicago are these two stories:
Michael was going to sing P.Y.T. and he danced throughout the entire song. When he was done he was sweating, panting, and then he asked if he had done all right. I think it might have been Greg Phillinganes who relayed this to us. He was even mimicking Michael's dancing during the song.
Another one was from Siedah Garrett. She said that Quincy Jones sat all the writers down, because they needed one more song for the Bad album. So she was with Glen Ballard who was playing it on the keyboard and she came up with the words. She delivered the demo to Quincy on another day and she had interrupted a meeting he had with some business men. Later she got a call from Quincy who told her that was the best song he had heard in 10 years and that Michael had some suggestions to make it stronger. Tired of trying to relay the messages to her, Quincy handed over the phone to Michael so he could talk to her directly. While Michael was talking to her, she was super excited that her 'husband' was talking to her, but she didn't want him to get songwriting credit.
So, she took his advice and she gave him a couple of options for the bridge. The one he chose was the one with "...when you close your mind." It was nice she went over that, because in the interview w/Vibe Will.i.Am is quoted as saying that Michael wrote Man in the Mirror even though the credits don't express that. Yet, Siedah said in some video I watched that Michael had advised her enough not to have written the song himself.
Still highly dislike Keep the Faith though. =/ | |
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Interesting... | |
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I love it! YOU DON'T NEED A BUS PASS FOR ME TO BUS YOUR ASS,NIGGA ! | |
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I am sorry, I don´t understand this. Does it mean that Mike contributed so much that it could be said that he wrote it or that he didn´t contribute enough to be credited as the author? "When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all." | |
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You know someone who Id really like to see interviewed? Tom Sneddon,not by Oprah nesscarily,but,by someone PRO-Michael,like maybe Aphrodite.
But I would want it to get a big audience,like that of the Oprah show.
I want an interviewer who could stop him in his tracks everytime he tried to spew some B.S.
I want Janet Arviso(and her lying ass kids) interviewed aswell.
I would like for the world to see what Mike had to put up with. YOU DON'T NEED A BUS PASS FOR ME TO BUS YOUR ASS,NIGGA ! | |
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I understand why some MJ fans are up in arms about all this stuff concerning the writing of "Man In The Mirror" and hope at some point, what Michael actually contributed as far as ideas can be talked about in depth. However let me share a story.
I remember back in like 1999 or 2000, a few people from my high school were waiting for a class to start or something, and I was talking with my friend. My friend went to run to the bathroom and from across the hall I heard their conversation. It was about, "Man In The Mirror."
One of them said, "You know, all jokes aside about Michael and the mirror, and the surgeries, "Man In The Mirror" is a really powerful and life-changing song, with a great message. And he totally recorded that song from his heart on that song."
The reason I bring this up is because...
I think this whole business about who wrote it is kinda moot point. The people who admire Michael will respect his talent, no matter if he wrote it or not. The people who look to knock him will always have the cop out of, "Well he didn't write it." At the end of the day, Siedah wrote the song, with Michael's help, but would it have sold and inspired all those people it did, and continues to do had Michael not recorded it? Hell no. It is a MICHAEL JACKSON song.
Along those same lines, at the end of the day, the average listener will consider that song a "Michael Jackson classic" and that is how it should be.
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My bad. I meant that he had advised her, but not enough to snag any songwriting credits. | |
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