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Reply #270 posted 06/22/10 10:03am

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i dont see why all the hate...the cd is great! the first 5 tracks are amazing. the ballads are well crafted and the cheese is extra cheesy! Glam should totes be a RuPaul drag race theme song, lol.

i guess its just not cool to like xtina right now? i mean the lady gaga comparisons...eh, whatever. lady gaga is only doing what madonna did years ago when she was still fun. musically, its way more diverse than anything gaga has done.

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Reply #271 posted 06/22/10 12:24pm

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Do you guys just hate Bionic because you were expecting a Iamamiwhoami kind of album? Yet why do you compare her to Britney and Rihanna and GaGa?

besides the videos, are you really considering their music as daring?

Have you heard the album? really? seriously? or are you judging it from the NMT video only?

Because damn, Prince released some ugly videos, but still his music speaks volumes right?

Not comparing the two, they could not be more further apart from each other.

I am glad if Bionic does not sell, for finally Christina might enter a different level which is the one shared by M.I.A. or Santogold or other singers/musicians who have an opinion and do not take safe choices.

Now, if you consider 'you lost me' - 'elastic love' - 'bionic' - 'lift me up' - 'monday morning' - 'bobblehead' as stupid, lame, ugly, bomb pop dance music, I guess I have an extremely bad taste.

Wasn't it the stans who hyped up Ami as Christina? They were going around saying it was going to be the best album yet, pitting her against Lady GaGa.

Christina will never been an M.I.A. or Santigold, so don't try that. She also already shares her opinion and hasn't make safe choices.

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Reply #272 posted 06/22/10 12:46pm

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purplesweat said:

"I will not disappoint."

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"Legendtina"

rolleyes Gimme a break.

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Reply #273 posted 06/22/10 9:04pm

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Christina's so lost as a performer. She doesn't know who she is or what she what she wants to be. All her image makeovers and reinventions look now, in retrospect, as the behaviour of some desperate woman desperately trying to find an identity that fits.

She's a chameleon basically. Unlike Britney or Gaga, she's NEVER been able to stamp her identity on a particular sound. Madonna's obviously the mother of reinvention, and as much as I don't care for her, she's so much more intelligent than Christina is. Madge knows how to follow each image change from album to album with alot more finesse and cunning, making people believe that whatever new look/sound she has is just a natural progression or reaction against the last. As a result, she's more or less a success every time, a few exceptions nonwithstanding *cough*hardcandy*cough* Christina's a mess, her transition from a 'virginal' pop princess, to 'Lady Marmalade' clown, to self-professed 'skank and proud of it' then onto 1940's cabaret singer and now some cyborg/android thing rings so hollow. WTF? She clearly studied the Madonna handbook of how to sustain a pop career through reinvention and just made a mess of it. neutral

[Edited 6/22/10 21:07pm]

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Reply #274 posted 06/22/10 9:27pm

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LetMeLive said:

Christina's so lost as a performer. She doesn't know who she is or what she what she wants to be. All her image makeovers and reinventions look now, in retrospect, as the behaviour of some desperate woman desperately trying to find an identity that fits.

She's a chameleon basically. Unlike Britney or Gaga, she's NEVER been able to stamp her identity on a particular sound. Madonna's obviously the mother of reinvention, and as much as I don't care for her, she's so much more intelligent than Christina is. Madge knows how to follow each image change from album to album with alot more finesse and cunning, making people believe that whatever new look/sound she has is just a natural progression or reaction against the last. As a result, she's more or less a success every time, a few exceptions nonwithstanding *cough*hardcandy*cough* Christina's a mess, her transition from a 'virginal' pop princess, to 'Lady Marmalade' clown, to self-professed 'skank and proud of it' then onto 1940's cabaret singer and now some cyborg/android thing rings so hollow. WTF? She clearly studied the Madonna handbook of how to sustain a pop career through reinvention and just made a mess of it. neutral

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I am proud of her for exploring different territories (because there are so many singer that DONT) however she should have tried to go a bit beyond sounding like Gaga...gosh I wish those woman in the trees weird videos were indeed Christina..

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Reply #275 posted 06/22/10 9:34pm

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LetMeLive said:

Christina's so lost as a performer. She doesn't know who she is or what she what she wants to be. All her image makeovers and reinventions look now, in retrospect, as the behaviour of some desperate woman desperately trying to find an identity that fits.

She's a chameleon basically. Unlike Britney or Gaga, she's NEVER been able to stamp her identity on a particular sound. Madonna's obviously the mother of reinvention, and as much as I don't care for her, she's so much more intelligent than Christina is. Madge knows how to follow each image change from album to album with alot more finesse and cunning, making people believe that whatever new look/sound she has is just a natural progression or reaction against the last. As a result, she's more or less a success every time, a few exceptions nonwithstanding *cough*hardcandy*cough* Christina's a mess, her transition from a 'virginal' pop princess, to 'Lady Marmalade' clown, to self-professed 'skank and proud of it' then onto 1940's cabaret singer and now some cyborg/android thing rings so hollow. WTF? She clearly studied the Madonna handbook of how to sustain a pop career through reinvention and just made a mess of it. neutral

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I am proud of her for exploring different territories (because there are so many singer that DONT) however she should have tried to go a bit beyond sounding like Gaga...gosh I wish those woman in the trees weird videos were indeed Christina..

Oh I hoped the iamamiwhoami thing was her too.

Hence how pissed I am (did it come through in my post? wink)

But seriously, 'Sex For Breakfast.. and 'I take myself to be my lawfully wedded bitch'??

What has she been smoking? hmmm

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Reply #276 posted 06/23/10 2:38am

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i dont see why all the hate...the cd is great! the first 5 tracks are amazing. the ballads are well crafted and the cheese is extra cheesy! Glam should totes be a RuPaul drag race theme song, lol.

i guess its just not cool to like xtina right now? i mean the lady gaga comparisons...eh, whatever. lady gaga is only doing what madonna did years ago when she was still fun. musically, its way more diverse than anything gaga has done.

I think this album is brilliant it far more edgy than any other pop album at the moment, however if the label did not interfere with its creation I think it would be to a higher standard. Also she took too much time recording it, if it came out a around a year ago people would not dismiss the album as a Gaga copycat. I do not see or hear the similarities, besides Christina has been working on the album since 2006/7.

I feel for her, she’s put her all into this project and people dismiss her as a copycat, real shame as I do think this is her Damita Jo, all the publicity and a real solid album and it all comes down to nothing.

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Reply #277 posted 06/23/10 7:06am

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It's already out the Top 10 in its second week.

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Reply #278 posted 06/23/10 7:21am

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Layzie said:

purplesweat said:

"I will not disappoint."

falloff

"Legendtina"

rolleyes Gimme a break.

She would love that name, wouldn't she? nuts

Honestly, even as phenomenal as her voice is, the fact that this young woman has her head stuck so far up her own ass is reason enough for me to not ever spend a dime on anything she puts out. hammer

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Reply #279 posted 06/23/10 7:29am

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Ottensen said:

Layzie said:

"Legendtina"

rolleyes Gimme a break.

She would love that name, wouldn't she? nuts

Honestly, even as phenomenal as her voice is, the fact that this young woman has her head stuck so far up her own ass is reason enough for me to not ever spend a dime on anything she puts out. hammer

im still waiting for the real christina to find herself
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Reply #280 posted 06/23/10 12:32pm

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It's already out the Top 10 in its second week.

This is not true. According to Billboard:

"and Christina Aguilera's "Bionic" dips six positions to No. 9 (40,000; down 64%)". Still not good, but it is still in the top 10. Time for a salvage a la "Rated R" (where they just kept throwing out singles till something stuck).

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Reply #281 posted 06/23/10 6:06pm

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her pr people need to get her on SNL, letterman, leno, gma concert series...she needs to do some surprise performances in the club circuit...hold a few high profile "intimate" shows in ny, la - maybe with winners from a radio contest in each city or something.

all this record needs is good press for christina. the record is great but her image is jacked right now. fix the image via great live performances and she's set.

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Reply #282 posted 06/23/10 11:13pm

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her pr people need to get her on SNL, letterman, leno, gma concert series...she needs to do some surprise performances in the club circuit...hold a few high profile "intimate" shows in ny, la - maybe with winners from a radio contest in each city or something.

all this record needs is good press for christina. the record is great but her image is jacked right now. fix the image via great live performances and she's set.

She's already done Letterman, GMA, MTV Awards, MTV Storytellers and VH1 Behind The Music.

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Reply #283 posted 06/24/10 3:58am

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Wasn't it the stans who hyped up Ami as Christina? They were going around saying it was going to be the best album yet, pitting her against Lady GaGa.

Christina will never been an M.I.A. or Santigold, so don't try that. She also already shares her opinion and hasn't make safe choices.

I do think this is her best album, so far.

And I listen to the new complete songs of Iamamiwhoami and besides B and the snippets, the other songs sound to me as not so innovative. I love the vidoes and I love the 'indie' approach though.

And the mystery behind it.

I would say Chrsitina's fans, and me too, where hoping for a mainstream artist to break the 'fashionable' approach and put some left-edge artistry in their work. We were hoping Christina would have been that one.

True, 'Bionic' has the same visuals over and done of sex and glossy glamour. This said, at least it is true to what she always stated: being a 'liberated' woman - sexually and feminine - aggressive.

But if you take all this as a reason to dislike the actual music that's in the album and basically despise the whole persona, then I do not agree.

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Reply #284 posted 06/24/10 5:45am

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hmmm Well,she still has that 'Burlesque' movie coming out in the fall (co-starring Cher).If it's a hit,Christina can turn things around.

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Reply #285 posted 06/24/10 5:48am

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Wasn't it the stans who hyped up Ami as Christina? They were going around saying it was going to be the best album yet, pitting her against Lady GaGa.

Christina will never been an M.I.A. or Santigold, so don't try that. She also already shares her opinion and hasn't make safe choices.

I do think this is her best album, so far.

And I listen to the new complete songs of Iamamiwhoami and besides B and the snippets, the other songs sound to me as not so innovative. I love the vidoes and I love the 'indie' approach though.

And the mystery behind it.

I would say Chrsitina's fans, and me too, where hoping for a mainstream artist to break the 'fashionable' approach and put some left-edge artistry in their work. We were hoping Christina would have been that one.

True, 'Bionic' has the same visuals over and done of sex and glossy glamour. This said, at least it is true to what she always stated: being a 'liberated' woman - sexually and feminine - aggressive.

But if you take all this as a reason to dislike the actual music that's in the album and basically despise the whole persona, then I do not agree.

True.

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Reply #286 posted 06/24/10 7:54am

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purplesweat said:

BramblingMan said:

her pr people need to get her on SNL, letterman, leno, gma concert series...she needs to do some surprise performances in the club circuit...hold a few high profile "intimate" shows in ny, la - maybe with winners from a radio contest in each city or something.

all this record needs is good press for christina. the record is great but her image is jacked right now. fix the image via great live performances and she's set.

She's already done Letterman, GMA, MTV Awards, MTV Storytellers and VH1 Behind The Music.

Don't forget Oprah! biggrin Seriously, the girl's just fucked this era, with or without promotion

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Reply #287 posted 06/24/10 8:13am

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CHIC0 said:

Hudson said:

hah!

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spit lol that's fucked!

lol Why would a happily sane person envy Britney Spears? Despite all the success Britney has had after her 'sabbatical to crazy land', she's still under a conservatorship and really doesn't have much (if any control) over her life. Her ex-husband still has full custody of the kids and her record label still pulls the strings and makes the executive decisions. She's merely a vessel they use to make money at this point which is really sad and definitely not something that should be looked at as being a good thing no matter how much money and success she's raking in at the moment. I'd rather be a sane flop in control of my life, than a successful 29 year old mother of two who has a curfew and has to ask my daddy if I can use my own damn credit cards when I want to go shopping. Sad, truly sad and definitely nothing to strive for. All the money and success in the world doesn't equate to real happiness so: Christina 1; Britney biiig goose egg. Britney may have had a big comeback professionally, but personally, she's still got quite a ways to go.

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Reply #288 posted 06/24/10 11:37am

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LetMeLive said:

purplesweat said:

She's already done Letterman, GMA, MTV Awards, MTV Storytellers and VH1 Behind The Music.

Don't forget Oprah! biggrin Seriously, the girl's just fucked this era, with or without promotion

oh really? i haven't seen or heard of any of those performances! wow...who did she piss off in the industry to get such little good press and so much bad? and did she really do oprah or was that a joke? i don't watch Oprah but if that didn't help her, nothing will. that's a shame, cuz the cd is always on in my office. i love it!

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Reply #289 posted 06/24/10 11:49am

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BramblingMan said:

LetMeLive said:

Don't forget Oprah! biggrin Seriously, the girl's just fucked this era, with or without promotion

oh really? i haven't seen or heard of any of those performances! wow...who did she piss off in the industry to get such little good press and so much bad? and did she really do oprah or was that a joke? i don't watch Oprah but if that didn't help her, nothing will. that's a shame, cuz the cd is always on in my office. i love it!

Yep

http://justjared.buzznet.com/2010/05/07/christina-aguilera-oprah-show/

I watched a bit of the interview.

She didn't come across that well, it was like she was vomiting up some pre-rehearsed script.

She usually comes across as cold, superior and snobby in interviews, the one exception lately is 'Storyteller', I watched it and actually warmed to her slightly.

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Reply #290 posted 06/24/10 12:09pm

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I wish Aguilera would play with her voice more instead of always singing powerhouse. You can tell that she's a capable singer, but her style doesn't vary enough.

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Reply #291 posted 06/24/10 12:44pm

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Wasn't it the stans who hyped up Ami as Christina? They were going around saying it was going to be the best album yet, pitting her against Lady GaGa.

Christina will never been an M.I.A. or Santigold, so don't try that. She also already shares her opinion and hasn't make safe choices.

I do think this is her best album, so far.

And I listen to the new complete songs of Iamamiwhoami and besides B and the snippets, the other songs sound to me as not so innovative. I love the vidoes and I love the 'indie' approach though.

And the mystery behind it.

I would say Chrsitina's fans, and me too, where hoping for a mainstream artist to break the 'fashionable' approach and put some left-edge artistry in their work. We were hoping Christina would have been that one.

True, 'Bionic' has the same visuals over and done of sex and glossy glamour. This said, at least it is true to what she always stated: being a 'liberated' woman - sexually and feminine - aggressive.

But if you take all this as a reason to dislike the actual music that's in the album and basically despise the whole persona, then I do not agree.

I still waiting for her release an album. Ami let her hype die a lot by dragging this on since everyone moves on so fast these days, but I guess your right, she isn't aiming for mainstream audience.

I didn't really think it was her. Didn't really seem it was something that her or her peers would do. But yeah, it would have been nice. It would have gave the artistic cred that she wants.

I actually hate when she says that and mixes "enpowerment" in it. lol

No, I actually dislike most of the music and the approach to this era.

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