disch said:

I don't recall anything about "dehydration" causing the April 20 appointment. It was reported that he received an "intravenous treatment," but that could be anything. The info in the warrants, plus what we know about what was going on generally, strongly point to opioid withdrawal symptoms as the cause.

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After the plane OD, I think he saw the risk of his drug use and wanted to quit opioids (Judith Hill said that he "wanted to do the right th... his body.") and so he stopped, sending him into withdrawal.

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Whether or not he took the drugs prescribed April 20, I think the key thing is that he wouldn't have bothered going to the hospital, being examined, getting treated there, getting a script, etc if he planned on ending his life that night.

cloveringold85 said:

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The entire Walgreen's story is shady, at best. Let's be real here. All we know is that Prince had been treated in the hospital the day before he died for "dehydration", and Dr. Schulenberg prescribed Prince some Rx's of which we don't know if he ever picked-up or every ingested. The picture of him walking near Walgreen's really does not tell us anything, nor prove anything.

We also know that when he was in the hospital he left against medical advice....he walked out and didn't want to stay in the hospital after they told him he needed to stay.

SPzzz said:

disch said:

I don't recall anything about "dehydration" causing the April 20 appointment. It was reported that he received an "intravenous treatment," but that could be anything. The info in the warrants, plus what we know about what was going on generally, strongly point to opioid withdrawal symptoms as the cause.

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After the plane OD, I think he saw the risk of his drug use and wanted to quit opioids (Judith Hill said that he "wanted to do the right th... his body.") and so he stopped, sending him into withdrawal.

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Whether or not he took the drugs prescribed April 20, I think the key thing is that he wouldn't have bothered going to the hospital, being examined, getting treated there, getting a script, etc if he planned on ending his life that night.

We also know that when he was in the hospital he left against medical advice....he walked out and didn't want to stay in the hospital after they told him he needed to stay.

Has that behavior already been addressed?

I think that's true of the Moline stay on April 15 (per the warrant, the doctor said he "refused medical treatment.") I don't think we know that about the April 20 visit, however; it wasn't documented in the warrant or elsewhere that he left against advice.

SPzzz said:

disch said:

I don't recall anything about "dehydration" causing the April 20 appointment. It was reported that he received an "intravenous treatment," but that could be anything. The info in the warrants, plus what we know about what was going on generally, strongly point to opioid withdrawal symptoms as the cause.

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After the plane OD, I think he saw the risk of his drug use and wanted to quit opioids (Judith Hill said that he "wanted to do the right th... his body.") and so he stopped, sending him into withdrawal.

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Whether or not he took the drugs prescribed April 20, I think the key thing is that he wouldn't have bothered going to the hospital, being examined, getting treated there, getting a script, etc if he planned on ending his life that night.

We also know that when he was in the hospital he left against medical advice....he walked out and didn't want to stay in the hospital after they told him he needed to stay.

SPzzz said:

—-We know nothing of the sort including his mental state when he left the hospital

Menes said:

cloveringold85 said:

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This is absurd!!

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I would call what you think or believe happened ,an opinion, however "absurd" it may seem to me. But hey, make of it what you will.

Well...actually you could say, what every one thinks on this thread is an opinion...

Well that is the total opposite of what Judith Hill said. He left around noon the next day so in the 12 hours he was in the hospital he must have received some sort of treatment.

disch said:

I think that's true of the Moline stay on April 15 (per the warrant, the doctor said he "refused medical treatment.") I don't think we know that about the April 20 visit, however; it wasn't documented in the warrant or elsewhere that he left against advice.

SPzzz said:

We also know that when he was in the hospital he left against medical advice....he walked out and didn't want to stay in the hospital after they told him he needed to stay.

I think he was in the hospital for around 8 or 9 hours. I'm sure he got some immediate treatment (for example, to stave off the short-term physical effects of Narcan) -- or at least monitoring, given he nearly died. Perhaps the doctor's statement was in reference to more extensive treatment for the underlying issue.

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I also wonder -- and I have no facts about this -- if he stayed in the Moline hospital for those hours because his plane wasn't ready/cleared to leave the airport; maybe he stuck around just until he could get back in the air.

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I think it's a little hard to go only by what close associates said to the press, as they've largely been sensitive about not revealing much. Judith (or Kirk, for that matter) never acknowledged that the situation in Moline was an OD (Kirk said only, shortly after, that it was dehydration or something like that). Not that they're "lying" or being deceptive; I think they're just very concerned about following Prince's penchant for privacy and image control, which I understand.

laurarichardson said:

Well that is the total opposite of what Judith Hill said. He left around noon the next day so in the 12 hours he was in the hospital he must have received some sort of treatment.

disch said:

I think that's true of the Moline stay on April 15 (per the warrant, the doctor said he "refused medical treatment.") I don't think we know that about the April 20 visit, however; it wasn't documented in the warrant or elsewhere that he left against advice.

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You did not read the interview that Judith did in the New York times. She did not sugar coat the reason they were in the hospital. She said the media lied and that he was not combative or difficult and they stayed until noon the next day. She said she was in his hospital room and they talked and he sleep for awhile.

Judith got slammed for saying what she did say but she said she wanted the public to know he was trying to get help and that he was not combative. Don't you see the media spin which is often deceptive and half-assed for the whole sake of getting internet clicks.

Why would a hospital be set up like a rehab center. The only thing the hospital could for him would be to stablized him if it was only a drug issue. Why can't you accept that the drugs in and of themselves can cause other health issues and that he may have been dealing with a few other isses.

disch said:

I think he was in the hospital for around 8 or 9 hours. I'm sure he got some immediate treatment (for example, to stave off the short-term physical effects of Narcan) -- or at least monitoring, given he nearly died. Perhaps the doctor's statement was in reference to more extensive treatment for the underlying issue.

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I also wonder -- and I have no facts about this -- if he stayed in the Moline hospital for those hours because his plane wasn't ready/cleared to leave the airport; maybe he stuck around just until he could get back in the air.

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I think it's a little hard to go only by what close associates said to the press, as they've largely been sensitive about not revealing much. Judith (or Kirk, for that matter) never acknowledged that the situation in Moline was an OD (Kirk said only, shortly after, that it was dehydration or something like that). Not that they're "lying" or being deceptive; I think they're just very concerned about following Prince's penchant for privacy and image control, which I understand.

laurarichardson said:

Well that is the total opposite of what Judith Hill said. He left around noon the next day so in the 12 hours he was in the hospital he must have received some sort of treatment.

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Laura, of course I read the interview. Nowhere in it does she use the word "overdose," "opioid," "narcan," or anything related (the author of the article uses some of those words; she doesn't). In fact, she demurs on confirming any specific cause of the crisis: "She had never seen anything like that happen to him and had no idea what caused his condition" and "Ms. Hill did not want to discuss the details of Prince’s medical treatment in Moline." She doesn't mention anything about "media lies" or anything like that. (She also said, by the way: "“I only know what everyone knows about his pain — I read about it,” she said. In person, “he was quick on his feet. Never said anything, that this is hurting, never a sign of struggle.")

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It wasn't about her "sugar coating"; she was being discreet about a sensitive topic.

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As for him not being combative: The doctor's warrant comment didn't say Prince was combative, just that he didn't accept treatment at that particular hospital (and, frankly, no matter what his issues were, I can't see him getting treated for them at some random hospital in the middle of illinois.) Prince was probably perfectly polite. I don't see how that contradicts Judith's description.

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Your tone seems angry and there's no reason it should be. I have nothing more to add on this topic.

laurarichardson said:

You did not read the interview that Judith did in the New York times. She did not sugar coat the reason they were in the hospital. She said the media lied and that he was not combative or difficult and they stayed until noon the next day. She said she was in his hospital room and they talked and he sleep for awhile.

Judith got slammed for saying what she did say but she said she wanted the public to know he was trying to get help and that he was not combative. Don't you see the media spin which is often deceptive and half-assed for the whole sake of getting internet clicks.

Why would a hospital be set up like a rehab center. The only thing the hospital could for him would be to stablized him if it was only a drug issue. Why can't you accept that the drugs in and of themselves can cause other health issues and that he may have been dealing with a few other isses.

disch said:

I think he was in the hospital for around 8 or 9 hours. I'm sure he got some immediate treatment (for example, to stave off the short-term physical effects of Narcan) -- or at least monitoring, given he nearly died. Perhaps the doctor's statement was in reference to more extensive treatment for the underlying issue.

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I also wonder -- and I have no facts about this -- if he stayed in the Moline hospital for those hours because his plane wasn't ready/cleared to leave the airport; maybe he stuck around just until he could get back in the air.

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I think it's a little hard to go only by what close associates said to the press, as they've largely been sensitive about not revealing much. Judith (or Kirk, for that matter) never acknowledged that the situation in Moline was an OD (Kirk said only, shortly after, that it was dehydration or something like that). Not that they're "lying" or being deceptive; I think they're just very concerned about following Prince's penchant for privacy and image control, which I understand.

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I am not angry and you need to knock it off. Anytime someone disagrees with you they are angry.

I guess that makes it easy to dismiss people and topics

Judith also said " he was going to get help" What do you think that means in the context of the article. She wanted to clear up the misconception (lie) by TMZ that he left because he could not get a private room and was combative. It is obvious that whatever was going on with him he was not going to get much help at some hospital in the middle of nowhere and if TMZ was not trying to get internet hits they would have not even gone with the" left because he demanded a private room B.S. in the first place".

See her comments since you missed them in your first read.

"While Hill did not get into specifics about Prince's medical treatment while in Moline, she did reveal that she and Johnson remained by his side throughout the night and Prince was "very cooperative" and "serious about getting help."

disch said:

Laura, of course I read the interview. Nowhere in it does she use the word "overdose," "opioid," "narcan," or anything related (the author of the article uses some of those words; she doesn't). In fact, she demurs on confirming any specific cause of the crisis: "She had never seen anything like that happen to him and had no idea what caused his condition" and "Ms. Hill did not want to discuss the details of Prince’s medical treatment in Moline." She doesn't mention anything about "media lies" or anything like that. (She also said, by the way: "“I only know what everyone knows about his pain — I read about it,” she said. In person, “he was quick on his feet. Never said anything, that this is hurting, never a sign of struggle.")

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It wasn't about her "sugar coating"; she was being discreet about a sensitive topic.

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As for him not being combative: The doctor's warrant comment didn't say Prince was combative, just that he didn't accept treatment at that particular hospital (and, frankly, no matter what his issues were, I can't see him getting treated for them at some random hospital in the middle of illinois.) Prince was probably perfectly polite. I don't see how that contradicts Judith's description.

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Your tone seems angry and there's no reason it should be. I have nothing more to add on this topic.

laurarichardson said:

You did not read the interview that Judith did in the New York times. She did not sugar coat the reason they were in the hospital. She said the media lied and that he was not combative or difficult and they stayed until noon the next day. She said she was in his hospital room and they talked and he sleep for awhile.

Judith got slammed for saying what she did say but she said she wanted the public to know he was trying to get help and that he was not combative. Don't you see the media spin which is often deceptive and half-assed for the whole sake of getting internet clicks.

Why would a hospital be set up like a rehab center. The only thing the hospital could for him would be to stablized him if it was only a drug issue. Why can't you accept that the drugs in and of themselves can cause other health issues and that he may have been dealing with a few other isses.

[Edited 3/19/18 8:14am]

disch said:

I don't recall anything about "dehydration" causing the April 20 appointment. It was reported that he received an "intravenous treatment," but that could be anything. The info in the warrants, plus what we know about what was going on generally, strongly point to opioid withdrawal symptoms as the cause.

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After the plane OD, I think he saw the risk of his drug use and wanted to quit opioids (Judith Hill said that he "wanted to do the right th... his body.") and so he stopped, sending him into withdrawal.

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Whether or not he took the drugs prescribed April 20, I think the key thing is that he wouldn't have bothered going to the hospital, being examined, getting treated there, getting a script, etc if he planned on ending his life that night.

cloveringold85 said:

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The entire Walgreen's story is shady, at best. Let's be real here. All we know is that Prince had been treated in the hospital the day before he died for "dehydration", and Dr. Schulenberg prescribed Prince some Rx's of which we don't know if he ever picked-up or every ingested. The picture of him walking near Walgreen's really does not tell us anything, nor prove anything.

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Mumio said:

laurarichardson said:

We know what he died from. We are discussing the real cause of the entire stituation.

Yes. And thank you for saying it yet again. We ALL know that the cause of death was an accidental overdose of fentanyl. The question left is: what else was going on with him/his health? Because there definitely was something else going on, clear as day to see it looking at him. Any pain meds he took were to control a painful condition he was experiencing.

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I am just reiterating that Prince's death was "accidental", because the pills were mislabeled, thus why I don't believe he comitted suicide -- that is the point I was trying to make. It's just what I believe.

Menes said:

cloveringold85 said:

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This is absurd!!

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I would call what you think or believe happened ,an opinion, however "absurd" it may seem to me. But hey, make of it what you will.

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BECAUSE........knowing what I know about the case; Prince did not commit suicide. I stand firm in my belief and I will not waiver.

laurarichardson said:

You did not read the interview that Judith did in the New York times. She did not sugar coat the reason they were in the hospital. She said the media lied and that he was not combative or difficult and they stayed until noon the next day. She said she was in his hospital room and they talked and he sleep for awhile.

Judith got slammed for saying what she did say but she said she wanted the public to know he was trying to get help and that he was not combative. Don't you see the media spin which is often deceptive and half-assed for the whole sake of getting internet clicks.

Why would a hospital be set up like a rehab center. The only thing the hospital could for him would be to stablized him if it was only a drug issue. Why can't you accept that the drugs in and of themselves can cause other health issues and that he may have been dealing with a few other isses.

disch said:

I think he was in the hospital for around 8 or 9 hours. I'm sure he got some immediate treatment (for example, to stave off the short-term physical effects of Narcan) -- or at least monitoring, given he nearly died. Perhaps the doctor's statement was in reference to more extensive treatment for the underlying issue.

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I also wonder -- and I have no facts about this -- if he stayed in the Moline hospital for those hours because his plane wasn't ready/cleared to leave the airport; maybe he stuck around just until he could get back in the air.

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I think it's a little hard to go only by what close associates said to the press, as they've largely been sensitive about not revealing much. Judith (or Kirk, for that matter) never acknowledged that the situation in Moline was an OD (Kirk said only, shortly after, that it was dehydration or something like that). Not that they're "lying" or being deceptive; I think they're just very concerned about following Prince's penchant for privacy and image control, which I understand.

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Remember Prince said "Don't believe the media". We do not know what happened in Moline -- no one wants to talk about it. It's weird.

laurarichardson said:

I am not angry and you need to knock it off. Anytime someone disagrees with you they are angry.

I guess that makes it easy to dismiss people and topics

Judith also said " he was going to get help" What do you think that means in the context of the article. She wanted to clear up the misconception (lie) by TMZ that he left because he could not get a private room and was combative. It is obvious that whatever was going on with him he was not going to get much help at some hospital in the middle of nowhere and if TMZ was not trying to get internet hits they would have not even gone with the" left because he demanded a private room B.S. in the first place".

See her comments since you missed them in your first read.

"While Hill did not get into specifics about Prince's medical treatment while in Moline, she did reveal that she and Johnson remained by his side throughout the night and Prince was "very cooperative" and "serious about getting help."

disch said:

Laura, of course I read the interview. Nowhere in it does she use the word "overdose," "opioid," "narcan," or anything related (the author of the article uses some of those words; she doesn't). In fact, she demurs on confirming any specific cause of the crisis: "She had never seen anything like that happen to him and had no idea what caused his condition" and "Ms. Hill did not want to discuss the details of Prince’s medical treatment in Moline." She doesn't mention anything about "media lies" or anything like that. (She also said, by the way: "“I only know what everyone knows about his pain — I read about it,” she said. In person, “he was quick on his feet. Never said anything, that this is hurting, never a sign of struggle.")

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It wasn't about her "sugar coating"; she was being discreet about a sensitive topic.

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As for him not being combative: The doctor's warrant comment didn't say Prince was combative, just that he didn't accept treatment at that particular hospital (and, frankly, no matter what his issues were, I can't see him getting treated for them at some random hospital in the middle of illinois.) Prince was probably perfectly polite. I don't see how that contradicts Judith's description.

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Your tone seems angry and there's no reason it should be. I have nothing more to add on this topic.

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..........And, let us not forget that TMZ ran the story that Prince had died......TWO days before, on April 19th.

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It's almost like they knew he was about to die -- someone was feeding them stories.

cloveringold85 said:

laurarichardson said:

I am not angry and you need to knock it off. Anytime someone disagrees with you they are angry.

I guess that makes it easy to dismiss people and topics

Judith also said " he was going to get help" What do you think that means in the context of the article. She wanted to clear up the misconception (lie) by TMZ that he left because he could not get a private room and was combative. It is obvious that whatever was going on with him he was not going to get much help at some hospital in the middle of nowhere and if TMZ was not trying to get internet hits they would have not even gone with the" left because he demanded a private room B.S. in the first place".

See her comments since you missed them in your first read.

"While Hill did not get into specifics about Prince's medical treatment while in Moline, she did reveal that she and Johnson remained by his side throughout the night and Prince was "very cooperative" and "serious about getting help."

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..........And, let us not forget that TMZ ran the story that Prince had died......TWO days before, on April 19th.

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It's almost like they knew he was about to die -- someone was feeding them stories.

Somebody from inside his organization or an associate was definity providing information. From those pics of him at the Walgreens to Dr. Funkenberry saying he got confirmation of Prince's death directly from Harvey Levin.

The fact that Meron and Kirk hit their cellphones makes them suspect as well.

Mumio said:

Yes. And thank you for saying it yet again. We ALL know that the cause of death was an accidental overdose of fentanyl. The question left is: what else was going on with him/his health? Because there definitely was something else going on, clear as day to see it looking at him. Any pain meds he took were to control a painful condition he was experiencing.

No we don't know that. So quit your 'ALL speak'. Intentional overdose of fentanyl is something different from accidental OD, and in that scenario Prince knows exactly what he's doing. You are aware ALL of the illicit substances found at Paisley Park can be obtained from China over the net. (See phatphuk video). Besides, which person on earth who is smart takes fentanyl for bone pain? Are you actually saying Prince wasn't smart and didn't know what pills he was taking?

As to 'something else going on' yeah something else was going on in the mid-90s too. He looked really ill then.

cloveringold85 said:.

I am just reiterating that Prince's death was "accidental", because the pills were mislabeled, thus why I don't believe he comitted suicide -- that is the point I was trying to make. It's just what I believe.

Whenever you say 'pills were mislabeled' you seem to give the impression they were mislabeled suspiciously. With malevolent intent. The term is misleading in that case. I think the better term would be 'counterfeit' - as in they were disguised, but known to the dealer and buyer. I do NOT believe Prince mistakenly took pills, not realizing they were fentanyl. The amount alleged to be in his bloodstream, for one, should discount that possibility.

fortuneandserendipity said:

cloveringold85 said:.

I am just reiterating that Prince's death was "accidental", because the pills were mislabeled, thus why I don't believe he comitted suicide -- that is the point I was trying to make. It's just what I believe.

Whenever you say 'pills were mislabeled' you seem to give the impression they were mislabeled suspiciously. With malevolent intent. The term is misleading in that case. I think the better term would be 'counterfeit' - as in they were disguised, but known to the dealer and buyer. I do NOT believe Prince mistakenly took pills, not realizing they were fentanyl. The amount alleged to be in his bloodstream, for one, should discount that possibility.

It is a ridculous amont. Like a kill pill.

Why do you think the buyer (or dealer) would know the composition of the mislabeled pills?

fortuneandserendipity said:

cloveringold85 said:.

I am just reiterating that Prince's death was "accidental", because the pills were mislabeled, thus why I don't believe he comitted suicide -- that is the point I was trying to make. It's just what I believe.

Whenever you say 'pills were mislabeled' you seem to give the impression they were mislabeled suspiciously. With malevolent intent. The term is misleading in that case. I think the better term would be 'counterfeit' - as in they were disguised, but known to the dealer and buyer. I do NOT believe Prince mistakenly took pills, not realizing they were fentanyl. The amount alleged to be in his bloodstream, for one, should discount that possibility.

fortuneandserendipity said:

Mumio said:

Yes. And thank you for saying it yet again. We ALL know that the cause of death was an accidental overdose of fentanyl. The question left is: what else was going on with him/his health? Because there definitely was something else going on, clear as day to see it looking at him. Any pain meds he took were to control a painful condition he was experiencing.

No we don't know that. So quit your 'ALL speak'. Intentional overdose of fentanyl is something different from accidental OD, and in that scenario Prince knows exactly what he's doing. You are aware ALL of the illicit substances found at Paisley Park can be obtained from China over the net. (See phatphuk video). Besides, which person on earth who is smart takes fentanyl for bone pain? Are you actually saying Prince wasn't smart and didn't know what pills he was taking?

As to 'something else going on' yeah something else was going on in the mid-90s too. He looked really ill then.

" Intentional overdose of fentanyl is something different from accidental OD, and in that scenario Prince knows exactly what he's doing. "

It is something different. It is called suicide. And if you want to kill yourself you do know what you are doing.

If you have money you do not need to go to China and if anyone thinks the man that had his underware custom made was buying drugs from random people over the internet because he was not able to get it here at home from his own source does not really understand wealth and what you get with it. He was sitting on 40 million dollars in cash why would he have to go to the interent?

Femtanyl has been prescribed for bone pain. Tom Petty had an Rx for Fentenyl patches for his fractured hip. We have no evidence and neither did the ME that he was a long time user of Fentenyl and I do not think he was taking it for bone pain. I think he took to kill himself due to another kind of pain.

Wearing white make up and not eating is not the same as looking as if you are on death's door.

Many of us have told you multiple credible sources have said he had cancer. Why is this so hard to believe? It is almost as if some do not want to believe that Prince was human.

At any rate I do not believe he had a 65k in medical expenses from being in Moline and I do not think he told people to get their stuff out of Paisley Park because they might not get it later because he was going to rehab.

Tyka told you he could not be helped and we do not know the whole story the same thing a dozen other people have said. Why does this not register? Why is his family trying to sue for wrongful death? Are they looking for insurance money in China? Are they suing a local drug dealer. They are going after a doctor or hospital for substandard care and I doubt it is for prescription drugs unless the hospital was doling out the bad pills.

Just think about it for a minute.

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Re: 65k hospital bills

In Oct. 2017 I was in ICU for 5 days and in a private room for 2 days
In Dec. 2017 I was in ICU for 4 days and in a semi-private room for 3 days
This includes being seen in ER each time.


So far my bills have totaled over 72k and they are still coming.

It would seem to me that Prince had some extensive treatment for his bill to be 65k. Like MRI's Pet Scan Ultra Sound Xray also if there was ambulance transport.
I'm just pondering.....😕

My point is one ER visit = $65,000 ?????
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disch said:

I agree Disch that what Judith says about him wanting to do right by his
Body, and also I believe she said that he said he was fighting to get back into
His body, that all the signs after Moline speak of a man trying to rapid detox.
Trying to get well. I do think it is possible that he had some cancer. But that aside I think the actions post Moline, speak to him attempting wellness and life.

3) Premature Discloser of data contained in this search warrant and the fruits of it's search could cause potential suspects to flee; result in potential evidence being altered or destroyed; potentially provide an incentive for collusion of testimony between potential co-conspirators; give effective notice such that other suspects are on notice of a potential investigation, surveillance or search; may motivate witness tampering schemes; may compromise potential witness statements if media representive interview witnesses before law inforcement investigators.

What does that mean? Is there a suspect on their radar or is this just regular procedure? Here's the link to the whole thing:

http://www.mncourts.gov/mncourtsgov/media/CIOMediaLibrary/Documents/Index-28.pdf

ThatWhiteDude said:

3) Premature Discloser of data contained in this search warrant and the fruits of it's search could cause potential suspects to flee; result in potential evidence being altered or destroyed; potentially provide an incentive for collusion of testimony between potential co-conspirators; give effective notice such that other suspects are on notice of a potential investigation, surveillance or search; may motivate witness tampering schemes; may compromise potential witness statements if media representive interview witnesses before law inforcement investigators.

What does that mean? Is there a suspect on their radar or is this just regular procedure? Here's the link to the whole thing:

http://www.mncourts.gov/mncourtsgov/media/CIOMediaLibrary/Documents/Index-28.pdf

You would think that it's been almost 2 years, surely they've had time to interview suspects and witnesses by now.

PennyPurple said:

ThatWhiteDude said:

3) Premature Discloser of data contained in this search warrant and the fruits of it's search could cause potential suspects to flee; result in potential evidence being altered or destroyed; potentially provide an incentive for collusion of testimony between potential co-conspirators; give effective notice such that other suspects are on notice of a potential investigation, surveillance or search; may motivate witness tampering schemes; may compromise potential witness statements if media representive interview witnesses before law inforcement investigators.

What does that mean? Is there a suspect on their radar or is this just regular procedure? Here's the link to the whole thing:

http://www.mncourts.gov/mncourtsgov/media/CIOMediaLibrary/Documents/Index-28.pdf

You would think that it's been almost 2 years, surely they've had time to interview suspects and witnesses by now.

True

zenarose said:

Re: 65k hospital bills In Oct. 2017 I was in ICU for 5 days and in a private room for 2 days In Dec. 2017 I was in ICU for 4 days and in a semi-private room for 3 days This includes being seen in ER each time. So far my bills have totaled over 72k and they are still coming. It would seem to me that Prince had some extensive treatment for his bill to be 65k. Like MRI's Pet Scan Ultra Sound Xray also if there was ambulance transport. I'm just pondering.....😕 My point is one ER visit = $65,000 ????? [Edited 3/19/18 14:45pm]

I had calculated that amount a year ago in order to figure out if the $65K itemized amount was indeed just for that trip in Moline. I extended the calculation by using the websites of the two closest hospitals nearest to the airport in Moline. and each itemized statement that closely resembled treatment for an overdose.That was coupled with the transport of the fire department .My calculation came up to $42,540. It is merely an approximation.

cloveringold85 said:

Mumio said:

Yes. And thank you for saying it yet again. We ALL know that the cause of death was an accidental overdose of fentanyl. The question left is: what else was going on with him/his health? Because there definitely was something else going on, clear as day to see it looking at him. Any pain meds he took were to control a painful condition he was experiencing.

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I am just reiterating that Prince's death was "accidental", because the pills were mislabeled, thus why I don't believe he comitted suicide -- that is the point I was trying to make. It's just what I believe.

Forget it.

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fortuneandserendipity said:

No we don't know that. So quit your 'ALL speak'. Intentional overdose of fentanyl is something different from accidental OD, and in that scenario Prince knows exactly what he's doing. You are aware ALL of the illicit substances found at Paisley Park can be obtained from China over the net. (See phatphuk video). Besides, which person on earth who is smart takes fentanyl for bone pain? Are you actually saying Prince wasn't smart and didn't know what pills he was taking?

As to 'something else going on' yeah something else was going on in the mid-90s too. He looked really ill then.

Lol, never mind. You aren't worth the time nor trouble to bother with

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ThatWhiteDude said:

3) Premature Discloser of data contained in this search warrant and the fruits of it's search could cause potential suspects to flee; result in potential evidence being altered or destroyed; potentially provide an incentive for collusion of testimony between potential co-conspirators; give effective notice such that other suspects are on notice of a potential investigation, surveillance or search; may motivate witness tampering schemes; may compromise potential witness statements if media representive interview witnesses before law inforcement investigators.

What does that mean? Is there a suspect on their radar or is this just regular procedure? Here's the link to the whole thing:

http://www.mncourts.gov/mncourtsgov/media/CIOMediaLibrary/Documents/Index-28.pdf

This means they didnt want the warrants to go public. This document was filed a year before they released the contents of the warrant. It is standard language. Since then the warrants have been released to the public.