laurarichardson said:

Rev said:

You are correct Laura. "Will power" is what you need to stay clean. You are wrong about addiction.

The alcohol/ drugs physically change the brain to require more stimulus. Damaging the pathways forever.

That my be true but let us be honest a disease is something you catch or get because of genetics.

I am sorry if my whole entire generation was drunks and drug addicts there is nothing forcing me to do the same. I am the free will not use drugs and alcohol at all or the will power not to become addicted.

I am also speaking from my own experience because I can go generations and find alcoholics on both sides of my fanily. But parents drank at social events and were not alcoholics and I may have a drink during the holidays. I can take it or leave because this is a choice I made.

Some people have the will power and some do not. Some people may be completed to drink and drug in the first place ( I am not talking about once they become addicted ) due to mental or emotional problems. I do not think compulsion from day one to drink or drug so that you body is chemically addicted is strickly due to a diesese. It is a different ballgame once you are hooked but no diasease makes anyone get started in the first place.

Genetics can be passed down and be dormant. The rest, I agree with you. I have watched family and friends die of abuse and thought "don't do that"

laurarichardson said:

Rev said:

You are correct Laura. "Will power" is what you need to stay clean. You are wrong about addiction.

The alcohol/ drugs physically change the brain to require more stimulus. Damaging the pathways forever.

That my be true but let us be honest a disease is something you catch or get because of genetics.

I am sorry if my whole entire generation was drunks and drug addicts there is nothing forcing me to do the same. I am the free will not use drugs and alcohol at all or the will power not to become addicted.

I am also speaking from my own experience because I can go generations and find alcoholics on both sides of my fanily. But parents drank at social events and were not alcoholics and I may have a drink during the holidays. I can take it or leave because this is a choice I made.

Some people have the will power and some do not. Some people may be completed to drink and drug in the first place ( I am not talking about once they become addicted ) due to mental or emotional problems. I do not think compulsion from day one to drink or drug so that you body is chemically addicted is strickly due to a diesese. It is a different ballgame once you are hooked but no diasease makes anyone get started in the first place.

Genetics can be passed down and be dormant. The rest, I agree with you. I have watched family and friends die of abuse and thought "don't do that"

Rev said:

laurarichardson said:

That my be true but let us be honest a disease is something you catch or get because of genetics.

I am sorry if my whole entire generation was drunks and drug addicts there is nothing forcing me to do the same. I am the free will not use drugs and alcohol at all or the will power not to become addicted.

I am also speaking from my own experience because I can go generations and find alcoholics on both sides of my fanily. But parents drank at social events and were not alcoholics and I may have a drink during the holidays. I can take it or leave because this is a choice I made.

Some people have the will power and some do not. Some people may be completed to drink and drug in the first place ( I am not talking about once they become addicted ) due to mental or emotional problems. I do not think compulsion from day one to drink or drug so that you body is chemically addicted is strickly due to a diesese. It is a different ballgame once you are hooked but no diasease makes anyone get started in the first place.

Genetics can be passed down and be dormant. The rest, I agree with you. I have watched family and friends die of abuse and thought "don't do that"

Thank you. My point is Don't pick it up in the first place. Having the idea in your mind that you can handle these substance in excess in the first place has nothing to do with a diesese. It is a choice.

fortuneandserendipity said:

cloveringold85 said:

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No. The Nelson Family have not come out and released any type of public statement regarding Prince's death. All they have given us are snippets of information and cryptic messages --Now, what are we supposed to do with that?? Tyka assumed Prince was dying, she never directly came out and said that verbatim. Don't try to stretch the truth, Laura, because you know that is not how it all went down. You know Prince's family have not been forthcoming about his death, at all. Nada. Zip!!

I couldn't agree with your post more. Amazing

Tyka assumed something was up with Prince, but maybe she elaborated on that subsequent to him passing. All we have to go off is a picture with the email instruction to relay to 'friends'. And we don't even know this to be true. Cryptic being the definitive word here.

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And, I think a lot of people are not picking up on the fact that Tyka never said that Prince told her he was dying. She interpreted that from an email he sent her. She said "Oh, he's dying!". She then concocted a story and ran with it. Now, I'm sure the authorities have seen Prince's emails to Tyka. Her character is shady, to say the least.

Tyka said she knew for "3 years" that Prince was dying. She orginally told the press that it was 2-years, then she changed it to 3 years.

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https://www.youtube.com/w...CLYw09tKjc

laurarichardson said:

Morgaine said:

Menes said: Thank you, Menes. The fact that he ODd days before he died of an accidental Fentanyl OD is part of why I believe the Moline OD was also from Fentanyl.

Never mind that the search warrent said Percocet at Moline and the only Fentanyl found was in the bootlegg pills.

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Yes -- they never said Prince's OD in Moline was Fentanyl. I don't know where people are getting this idea from.

cloveringold85 said:

Tyka said she knew for "3 years" that Prince was dying. She orginally told the press that it was 2-years, then she changed it to 3 years.

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https://www.youtube.com/w...CLYw09tKjc

Because a year had gone past from the first time she said it. Do you honestly think anyone would make up that they knew their brother was dying? For what purpose?

These comments she has made will have no effect on her being an heir and will not get her any money any faster. So what would be the point?

laurarichardson said:

Rev said:

Genetics can be passed down and be dormant. The rest, I agree with you. I have watched family and friends die of abuse and thought "don't do that"

Thank you. My point is Don't pick it up in the first place. Having the idea in your mind that you can handle these substance in excess in the first place has nothing to do with a diesese. It is a choice.

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Hmmm.......I don't think people choose to be an addict.

cloveringold85 said:

fortuneandserendipity said:

I couldn't agree with your post more. Amazing

Tyka assumed something was up with Prince, but maybe she elaborated on that subsequent to him passing. All we have to go off is a picture with the email instruction to relay to 'friends'. And we don't even know this to be true. Cryptic being the definitive word here.

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And, I think a lot of people are not picking up on the fact that Tyka never said that Prince told her he was dying. She interpreted that from an email he sent her. She said "Oh, he's dying!". She then concocted a story and ran with it. Now, I'm sure the authorities have seen Prince's emails to Tyka. Her character is shady, to say the least.

cryptic is not shady. Cryptic is not telling us the whole story in detail, which she has a right to do

it is called privacy. cryptic is letting you puzzle it out and not really caring where you land, again her

right.

shady is impling wrong doing or illegal activity. i can't see where one can deem her Character as

shady in regard to his death, just because she is making a choice to be careful of what she chooses to share and when

and how. these are my opinions, i respect that they arent held by all.

cloveringold85 said:

fortuneandserendipity said:

I couldn't agree with your post more. Amazing

Tyka assumed something was up with Prince, but maybe she elaborated on that subsequent to him passing. All we have to go off is a picture with the email instruction to relay to 'friends'. And we don't even know this to be true. Cryptic being the definitive word here.

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And, I think a lot of people are not picking up on the fact that Tyka never said that Prince told her he was dying. She interpreted that from an email he sent her. She said "Oh, he's dying!". She then concocted a story and ran with it. Now, I'm sure the authorities have seen Prince's emails to Tyka. Her character is shady, to say the least.

I will ask this question one more time. Why would she not have clarified this with him over the course of a few years? How is she shady? What has she done recently since he died that has been shady?

If Prince had an illness the authorities could care less as it would not have anything to do with the investigation.

purplefam99 said:

cloveringold85 said:

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And, I think a lot of people are not picking up on the fact that Tyka never said that Prince told her he was dying. She interpreted that from an email he sent her. She said "Oh, he's dying!". She then concocted a story and ran with it. Now, I'm sure the authorities have seen Prince's emails to Tyka. Her character is shady, to say the least.

cryptic is not shady. Cryptic is not telling us the whole story in detail, which she has a right to do

it is called privacy. cryptic is letting you puzzle it out and not really caring where you land, again her

right.

shady is impling wrong doing or illegal activity. i can't see where one can deem her Character as

shady in regard to his death, just because she is making a choice to be careful of what she chooses to share and when

and how. these are my opinions, i respect that they arent held by all.

Cp-sign

laurarichardson said:

cloveringold85 said:

Tyka said she knew for "3 years" that Prince was dying. She orginally told the press that it was 2-years, then she changed it to 3 years.

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https://www.youtube.com/w...CLYw09tKjc

Because a year had gone past from the first time she said it. Do you honestly think anyone would make up that they knew their brother was dying? For what purpose?

These comments she has made will have no effect on her being an heir and will not get her any money any faster. So what would be the point?

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We've had this discussion over and over. She said recently that she knew for 3-years! She specifically said she knew for 3-years from the time Prince told her in his email. So, that would be the year 2013, because he died in 2016. I've watched that interview many, many times, and she clearly said it.

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Of course it has no affect on her being an heir, but words speak in volumes about a person's character. If character and morals mean nothing to a person, then all the power to them.

purplefam99 said:

cloveringold85 said:

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And, I think a lot of people are not picking up on the fact that Tyka never said that Prince told her he was dying. She interpreted that from an email he sent her. She said "Oh, he's dying!". She then concocted a story and ran with it. Now, I'm sure the authorities have seen Prince's emails to Tyka. Her character is shady, to say the least.

cryptic is not shady. Cryptic is not telling us the whole story in detail, which she has a right to do

it is called privacy. cryptic is letting you puzzle it out and not really caring where you land, again her

right.

shady is impling wrong doing or illegal activity. i can't see where one can deem her Character as

shady in regard to his death, just because she is making a choice to be careful of what she chooses to share and when

and how. these are my opinions, i respect that they arent held by all.

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I said her "character" is shady.

cloveringold85 said:

purplefam99 said:

cryptic is not shady. Cryptic is not telling us the whole story in detail, which she has a right to do

it is called privacy. cryptic is letting you puzzle it out and not really caring where you land, again her

right.

shady is impling wrong doing or illegal activity. i can't see where one can deem her Character as

shady in regard to his death, just because she is making a choice to be careful of what she chooses to share and when

and how. these are my opinions, i respect that they arent held by all.

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I said her "character" is shady.

yes i got that. unless you meant she is playing a "character", i was under the impression you did

indeed mean her character. i even said as much in my reply.^^^

i am open to more explanation, i just don't seem how one can deem her character shady by the

little we have been giving and from the distance we are from her actual aquaintance.

October, 2017 (1-1/2 years after Prince died) in London, Tyka said:

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He called me (Prince) 3-years before he passed. I was at McDonald's. Two weeks' later, Prince sent me an email with a picture and song and told me to send it to Andre Cymone and his Sister. I told everyone. I couldn't imagine he (Prince) would ever go. It took 3-years from the first time he told me (at McDonalds). For 3-years, I was a mess. His closest friends knew. I told everybody he's (Prince) is dying. They knew...I knew.

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Interviewer asks: "Could Prince be saved?". Her response was......"I'm gonna come out with a book (ha-ha-ha). People have the story wrong, Tyka says.

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http://people.com/music/p...ted-death/

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Quoted directly from People magazine and Tyka's mouth:

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“I thought, ‘I’m going to buy earrings for his funeral, I’m buying a necklace for his funeral and I’m planning this, I’m telling all my relatives Prince is passing.’ So it took an actual three years from the time I got the call at McDonald’s…when I got the call that he had passed, I knew immediately what they meant because I was just kind of waiting for that day.”

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[Edited 3/14/18 14:15pm]

Not quite. The June 8 warrant stated: "The Doctor who treated Prince documented Prince as suffereing from an opiate overdose, however, Prince refused treatment at the hospital. Johnson told hospital staff Prince may have taken Percocet."

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So the percocet was, per the warrant, just speculation from Kirk, not from law enforcement or the doctor, who said only "opiates." We don't know if Kirk was totally wrong/misleading, or perhaps what he thought were genuine percocets were in reality counterfeits. No real way of knowing, based on the warrants.

laurarichardson said:

Morgaine said:

Menes said: Thank you, Menes. The fact that he ODd days before he died of an accidental Fentanyl OD is part of why I believe the Moline OD was also from Fentanyl.

Never mind that the search warrent said Percocet at Moline and the only Fentanyl found was in the bootlegg pills.

[Edited 3/14/18 15:41pm]

cloveringold85 said:

LOVESYMBOLNUMBER2 said:

cloveringold85 said:

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We've had this discussion over and over. She said recently that she knew for 3-years! She specifically said she knew for 3-years from the time Prince told her in his email. So, that would be the year 2013, because he died in 2016. I've watched that interview many, many times, and she clearly said it.

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Of course it has no affect on her being an heir, but words speak in volumes about a person's character. If character and morals mean nothing to a person, then all the power to them.

I think she is shady...she (and the rest of the clan) don't just want his money, they want his life, but Tyka & co. you ain't prince and the cryptic mysterious nonsense does not work for you. Remember what prince told Manuela..."This is not a standard of living that can be recreated with money"...and I think this applies to all of them as well. Stop with the weird self indulgent boring music stuff, stop the stupid cryptic insinuations about how close you all were to prince, stop the ridiculous t.v. Show cameos, and stop pretending you know anything about his estate, his vault, or his fans...please respectfully tell us in 3 sentences what happened, like Tom Petty's family did on day 1...or sit down and wait for your millions...So over all of them...and why do they all have to giggle while giving interviews about their dead love one...bluuuuck [Edited 3/14/18 16:14pm]

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I have to make a correction on my comment above.....I meant to say "A persons behavior speaks in volumes about their character." (not words speak in volumes, LMAO!!)) I'm tired today, and I can't type correctly!

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Seriously.........I argree to what you said, Lovesymbol -- it's time for all these looney-tune games to stop!! It's like everybody wants their 15-minutes of fame! Where's the love and respect for Prince??

cloveringold85 said:

LOVESYMBOLNUMBER2 said:

cloveringold85 said: I think she is shady...she (and the rest of the clan) don't just want his money, they want his life, but Tyka & co. you ain't prince and the cryptic mysterious nonsense does not work for you. Remember what prince told Manuela..."This is not a standard of living that can be recreated with money"...and I think this applies to all of them as well. Stop with the weird self indulgent boring music stuff, stop the stupid cryptic insinuations about how close you all were to prince, stop the ridiculous t.v. Show cameos, and stop pretending you know anything about his estate, his vault, or his fans...please respectfully tell us in 3 sentences what happened, like Tom Petty's family did on day 1...or sit down and wait for your millions...So over all of them...and why do they all have to giggle while giving interviews about their dead love one...bluuuuck [Edited 3/14/18 16:14pm]

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I have to make a correction on my comment above.....I meant to say "A persons behavior speaks in volumes about their character." (not words speak in volumes, LMAO!!)) I'm tired today, and I can't type correctly!

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Seriously.........I argree to what you said, Lovesymbol -- it's time for all these looney-tune games to stop!! It's like everybody wants their 15-minutes of fame! Where's the love and respect for Prince??

good points all around...

Even if she or anyone else wrote a book that had information stating Prince had cancer, what if anything would change at this point? It would all be too suspicious if it's tied to personal proceeds . I need one of these insiders to release a raunchy 300 pager so that I can pay proper homage to the world's most talented pimp in the music industry ever.

purplefam99 said:

cloveringold85 said:

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And, I think a lot of people are not picking up on the fact that Tyka never said that Prince told her he was dying. She interpreted that from an email he sent her. She said "Oh, he's dying!". She then concocted a story and ran with it. Now, I'm sure the authorities have seen Prince's emails to Tyka. Her character is shady, to say the least.

cryptic is not shady. Cryptic is not telling us the whole story in detail, which she has a right to do

it is called privacy. cryptic is letting you puzzle it out and not really caring where you land, again her

right.

shady is impling wrong doing or illegal activity. i can't see where one can deem her Character as

shady in regard to his death, just because she is making a choice to be careful of what she chooses to share and when

and how. these are my opinions, i respect that they arent held by all.

I agree with you purplefam99. Tired of people dragging her for no good reason at all.

purplefam99 said:

It seems to me that what is being demanded by some fans from tyka is to be to Them what they want, for her to be, behave, and answer in a fashion that suits their needs and not her own. I think that in someways this attitude is part of a possible chokehold that held Prince captive. That it, in a way, may have pressed him on to perform when he shouldn’t have, to please the unpleaseable. Who were only gonna remember him as a musical pimp in the end. If I were his sister I wouldn’t be in any rush to please or explain myself.

And I agree with this too.

purplefam99 said:

cloveringold85 said:

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And, I think a lot of people are not picking up on the fact that Tyka never said that Prince told her he was dying. She interpreted that from an email he sent her. She said "Oh, he's dying!". She then concocted a story and ran with it. Now, I'm sure the authorities have seen Prince's emails to Tyka. Her character is shady, to say the least.

cryptic is not shady. Cryptic is not telling us the whole story in detail, which she has a right to do

it is called privacy. cryptic is letting you puzzle it out and not really caring where you land, again her

right.

shady is impling wrong doing or illegal activity. i can't see where one can deem her Character as

shady in regard to his death, just because she is making a choice to be careful of what she chooses to share and when

and how. these are my opinions, i respect that they arent held by all.

I agree with your bolded remarks. Tyka has already kindly shared with us that Prince was seriously ill for 2-3 years prior to his passing. I am having a hard time relating to why some folks seem reluctant to believe her. The fact that she may seem a tad eccentric to some in no way diminishes her credibility to me.

IMHO she is fully entitled not to submit to any pressure to share specific details of his illness, especially if Prince did not wish her to. However, if that is not the case and she decides it is in Prince's best interests to reveal more details in her book, that is entirely her prerogative.


She clearly loves her brother and has conducted herself with dignity. I think that her love for and loyalty to Prince is surely a testament to her character, rather than to its detriment.

purplefam99 said:

It seems to me that what is being demanded by some fans from tyka is to be to Them what they want, for her to be, behave, and answer in a fashion that suits their needs and not her own. I think that in someways this attitude is part of a possible chokehold that held Prince captive. That it, in a way, may have pressed him on to perform when he shouldn’t have, to please the unpleaseable. Who were only gonna remember him as a musical pimp in the end. If I were his sister I wouldn’t be in any rush to please or explain myself.

Again I agree with the bolded.

Hopefully Tyka is paying scant attention to anything we may post here, and is purely focusing on the job in hand and doing right by her beloved brother. IMHO I think she is left in an invidious position, with what is likely to be a whole ton of responsibility and pressure upon her (hopefully she has some good, capable folks in place to advise and support her).

I’d like to think that she is receiving far more love, well-wishing, prayers and support from the fan ‘family’ than negative criticism. I may be mistaken, but I am getting the impression that some of her elder siblings are perhaps not the most amenable or altruistic, and, if that is indeed the case, she may be going to need all the goodwill and help she can get.

Menes said:

Even if she or anyone else wrote a book that had information stating Prince had cancer, what if anything would change at this point? It would all be too suspicious if it's tied to personal proceeds . I need one of these insiders to release a raunchy 300 pager so that I can pay proper homage to the world's most talented pimp in the music industry ever.

Maybe WE should write it! But we're gonna need more than 300 pages to cover the raunch...

laurarichardson said:

cloveringold85 said:

cloveringold85 said:

disch said: