PrplGem said:

XxAxX said:

at least 1998

Agreed! She was around in 1998. She was in his come on video, no sight of Mayte BTW. She was thanked in the liner notes of the new power soul album as Manuela T. She's been hanging around & I don't agree with hanging around a married man regardless of the state of his marriage, the fact remains he was married! Imo

Wow. Really? Where?

I didn't know that.

Hmmmmm...

PrplGem said:

Agreed! She was around in 1998. She was in his come on video, no sight of Mayte BTW. She was thanked in the liner notes of the new power soul album as Manuela T. She's been hanging around & I don't agree with hanging around a married man regardless of the state of his marriage, the fact remains he was married! Imo

Exactly.She had an agenda from the very beginning.She was trying to get with Prince when he was still married to Mayte.

LBrent said:

PrplGem said:

XxAxX said: Agreed! She was around in 1998. She was in his come on video, no sight of Mayte BTW. She was thanked in the liner notes of the new power soul album as Manuela T. She's been hanging around & I don't agree with hanging around a married man regardless of the state of his marriage, the fact remains he was married! Imo

Wow. Really? Where?

I didn't know that.

Hmmmmm...

Somebody mentioned that she is thanked in the NPS liner notes too. I can't find my copy.

paradise000 said:

Going to play devil's advocate for a sec, here...and then express some criticisms of MT.

1.) the article says "around 2000" (which 1998 could qualify as). She might have been vague purposely or unintentionally, but technically she did not lie.

2.) Mayte and Prince's relationship is a bit of a mystery at the end (and there are rumors of infidelity on her part as well) so having Manuela in his employ or even as a friend does not mean there was immediate infidelity on P and MT's part. Although it is certainly possibe and goes along with Prince's MO.

3.) Manuela wanting to get in with Prince--she certainly wouldn't be the only woman who ever found a way into his universe, nor was she the last. He is PRINCE for fuck's sake. tons of people are infatuated with him. Being a fan usually involves enjoying his talent and charisma (and not just his money.)

4.) We don't know the final settlement or if Dr. Funkenberry was correct when he stated that Manuela told him that she was hurt at the time so that's why she tried to hurt him in his pocket book.

5.) We don't know how often or if at any time she and P talked after the divorce. Silence is not admission of no contact.

6.) Charity fundraisers do do a lot of networking which can require expensive parties. 40,000 to 50,000 dollars a month worth of alimony is way too much to do so but I can understand why she would need the connections and money.

7.) Mayte is so dignified yet she is writing a book about Prince.

8.) Manuela could have defended herself in much worse ways than putting out a well calculated interview making her ex-husband look like a saint. She could have did a tell-all or said he was good with charity but 'cruel, manipulative' etc. as a husband. She could have made shit up or exagerrated his flaws. Yes, she threw some brief (and in some cases on the money) shade at him on facebook occassionally while he was live.. I don't agree with using that format, but I have heard and read much worse about ex's. People slagging on the ex-wife of a celebrity often leads to the ex-wife showing to the world the celebrity's dirty laundry in order to defend their own behavior. If she does not do so, then maybe we should ease up on her. If she does, then all bets are off.

9.) having make up artists on staff does not mean she knew how to do her own makeup. Plus, you know how Prince felt about how his associates should present themselves. You know he wanted her to live that glamorous life when she was with him. I agree that she is not entitled to that life when she leaves but how much he allowed her to spend while they were married is not really the issue.

10.) Wanting pictures and immigration papers back is understandable. (However, wanting videos he made for her and jewerly back 2 years after the divorce seemed greedy and exploitive)>

What pissed me off the most about this situation was that she came out at him in 2009 for 185,000 worth of crap he probably bought and made for her in the first place. What was the point of that? I imagine Prince thought she wanted to exploit his connection to her to hang on his coattails. And 2009 was a year when Prince's body was a bit of a wreck. I hope she saw that and expressed concern to him or others. INterestingly enough, I think a lot of people liked to come out at prince in harsh or aggressive ways just to get him to respond (even orgers seemed guilty of punitive whipping of a bad boy in order to get him to listen.). A kind of tough love. I am not saying that is what she was doing. But I have seen it before, kind of like when Lisa jokingly stated that she didn't mind irking prince in that Advocate interview and would take his calls happily if he called her. She said it with affection but I get what she was doing (kind of dragging him out of his shell.) If MT was attempting to do that, then good for her, but otherwise, that 2009 crap just seemed like an unnecessary dig.

babynoz said:

LBrent said:

Wow. Really? Where?

I didn't know that.

Hmmmmm...

Somebody mentioned that she is thanked in the NPS liner notes too. I can't find my copy.

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laytonian said:

He liked African and mideastern causes...that's for sure.

rogifan said:

laytonian said:

. Can anyone remember P donating to an overseas charity? From what I've seen, he supported young people, education and the arts within the USA. Those schools in Malawi etc don't ring true to P although they are wonderful.

Reports say he donated money to Afghan orphans. http://www.hollywoodrepor...han-890255

laytonian said:

wow..

purplerabbithole said:

Going to play devil's advocate for a sec, here...and then express some criticisms of MT.

1.) the article says "around 2000" (which 1998 could qualify as). She might have been vague purposely or unintentionally, but technically she did not lie.

2.) Mayte and Prince's relationship is a bit of a mystery at the end (and there are rumors of infidelity on her part as well) so having Manuela in his employ or even as a friend does not mean there was immediate infidelity on P and MT's part. Although it is certainly possibe and goes along with Prince's MO.

3.) Manuela wanting to get in with Prince--she certainly wouldn't be the only woman who ever found a way into his universe, nor was she the last. He is PRINCE for fuck's sake. tons of people are infatuated with him. Being a fan usually involves enjoying his talent and charisma (and not just his money.)

4.) We don't know the final settlement or if Dr. Funkenberry was correct when he stated that Manuela told him that she was hurt at the time so that's why she tried to hurt him in his pocket book.

5.) We don't know how often or if at any time she and P talked after the divorce. Silence is not admission of no contact.

6.) Charity fundraisers do do a lot of networking which can require expensive parties. 40,000 to 50,000 dollars a month worth of alimony is way too much to do so but I can understand why she would need the connections and money.

7.) Mayte is so dignified yet she is writing a book about Prince.

8.) Manuela could have defended herself in much worse ways than putting out a well calculated interview making her ex-husband look like a saint. She could have did a tell-all or said he was good with charity but 'cruel, manipulative' etc. as a husband. She could have made shit up or exagerrated his flaws. Yes, she threw some brief (and in some cases on the money) shade at him on facebook occassionally while he was live.. I don't agree with using that format, but I have heard and read much worse about ex's. People slagging on the ex-wife of a celebrity often leads to the ex-wife showing to the world the celebrity's dirty laundry in order to defend their own behavior. If she does not do so, then maybe we should ease up on her. If she does, then all bets are off.

9.) having make up artists on staff does not mean she knew how to do her own makeup. Plus, you know how Prince felt about how his associates should present themselves. You know he wanted her to live that glamorous life when she was with him. I agree that she is not entitled to that life when she leaves but how much he allowed her to spend while they were married is not really the issue.

10.) Wanting pictures and immigration papers back is understandable. (However, wanting videos he made for her and jewerly back 2 years after the divorce seemed greedy and exploitive)>

What pissed me off the most about this situation was that she came out at him in 2009 for 185,000 worth of crap he probably bought and made for her in the first place. What was the point of that? I imagine Prince thought she wanted to exploit his connection to her to hang on his coattails. And 2009 was a year when Prince's body was a bit of a wreck. I hope she saw that and expressed concern to him or others. INterestingly enough, I think a lot of people liked to come out at prince in harsh or aggressive ways just to get him to respond (even orgers seemed guilty of punitive whipping of a bad boy in order to get him to listen.). A kind of tough love. I am not saying that is what she was doing. But I have seen it before, kind of like when Lisa jokingly stated that she didn't mind irking prince in that Advocate interview and would take his calls happily if he called her. She said it with affection but I get what she was doing (kind of dragging him out of his shell.) If MT was attempting to do that, then good for her, but otherwise, that 2009 crap just seemed like an unnecessary dig.

babynoz said:

Somebody mentioned that she is thanked in the NPS liner notes too. I can't find my copy.

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[Edited 1/15/17 16:53pm]

[Edited 1/15/17 17:00pm]

[Edited 1/15/17 17:05pm]

Are these the New Power Soul liner notes?

MD431Madcat said:

wow..

Wowx2

About the Galphin house demolition, I was just thinking...I'm wondering if the demolition was also to oust people from his world without having to explain.

Example: Y'all all hanging with me at my house and I want that relationship to end so I announce that "I'm moving away for business reasons" and that "while I'm gone I'll be using that as an opportunity to have my house extensively remodelled and upgraded so y'all will need to find other accommodations" (heck, I might even offer to find them for you and help you move), then I have the house destroyed and stay away several years to emphasize that I won't be around to continue those former relationships.

Seems to me that it might've served this purpose, too...and without the hard feelings of the old Texas bar saying, "Y'all ain't gotta go home, but y'all gotta get up outta here!"

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Don't know. I said it was certainly possible the two of them were up to something more than hanging out and her working for him. But we don't know. Relationships are complicated obviously.

Plus, getting into P's inner circle doesn't automatically mean you are going to be able to 'steal' him away from his wife (unless P wants to be stolen.) She was cunning obviously, but anyone trying to get into Prince's inner circle had to be. Otherwise, how would you even get your foot in the door?

I don't mean to over-defend Mani but compared to Amber Hearst and Johnny Depp, Mani doesn't come off nearly as greedy or vindictive.

Also, I am not sure he was trying to hurt Mani with the demolition of the house. The house pre-dated her. Obviously, some bad shit happened in that house. Who is to say what it was. "Dead" and "infected" to me doesn't indicate adultry/cheating as much as loss and bad vibes. Of course, I would need to ask why it was included in the divorce papers? It could be as simple as the missing papers, pictures, videos and music videos that Prince removed from the house he was going to demolish and then Manuela being pissed because she could not find her stuff after the divorce was proceeding.

babynoz said:

purplerabbithole said:

Going to play devil's advocate for a sec, here...and then express some criticisms of MT.

1.) the article says "around 2000" (which 1998 could qualify as). She might have been vague purposely or unintentionally, but technically she did not lie.

2.) Mayte and Prince's relationship is a bit of a mystery at the end (and there are rumors of infidelity on her part as well) so having Manuela in his employ or even as a friend does not mean there was immediate infidelity on P and MT's part. Although it is certainly possibe and goes along with Prince's MO.

3.) Manuela wanting to get in with Prince--she certainly wouldn't be the only woman who ever found a way into his universe, nor was she the last. He is PRINCE for fuck's sake. tons of people are infatuated with him. Being a fan usually involves enjoying his talent and charisma (and not just his money.)

4.) We don't know the final settlement or if Dr. Funkenberry was correct when he stated that Manuela told him that she was hurt at the time so that's why she tried to hurt him in his pocket book.

5.) We don't know how often or if at any time she and P talked after the divorce. Silence is not admission of no contact.

6.) Charity fundraisers do do a lot of networking which can require expensive parties. 40,000 to 50,000 dollars a month worth of alimony is way too much to do so but I can understand why she would need the connections and money.

7.) Mayte is so dignified yet she is writing a book about Prince.

8.) Manuela could have defended herself in much worse ways than putting out a well calculated interview making her ex-husband look like a saint. She could have did a tell-all or said he was good with charity but 'cruel, manipulative' etc. as a husband. She could have made shit up or exagerrated his flaws. Yes, she threw some brief (and in some cases on the money) shade at him on facebook occassionally while he was live.. I don't agree with using that format, but I have heard and read much worse about ex's. People slagging on the ex-wife of a celebrity often leads to the ex-wife showing to the world the celebrity's dirty laundry in order to defend their own behavior. If she does not do so, then maybe we should ease up on her. If she does, then all bets are off.

9.) having make up artists on staff does not mean she knew how to do her own makeup. Plus, you know how Prince felt about how his associates should present themselves. You know he wanted her to live that glamorous life when she was with him. I agree that she is not entitled to that life when she leaves but how much he allowed her to spend while they were married is not really the issue.

10.) Wanting pictures and immigration papers back is understandable. (However, wanting videos he made for her and jewerly back 2 years after the divorce seemed greedy and exploitive)>

What pissed me off the most about this situation was that she came out at him in 2009 for 185,000 worth of crap he probably bought and made for her in the first place. What was the point of that? I imagine Prince thought she wanted to exploit his connection to her to hang on his coattails. And 2009 was a year when Prince's body was a bit of a wreck. I hope she saw that and expressed concern to him or others. INterestingly enough, I think a lot of people liked to come out at prince in harsh or aggressive ways just to get him to respond (even orgers seemed guilty of punitive whipping of a bad boy in order to get him to listen.). A kind of tough love. I am not saying that is what she was doing. But I have seen it before, kind of like when Lisa jokingly stated that she didn't mind irking prince in that Advocate interview and would take his calls happily if he called her. She said it with affection but I get what she was doing (kind of dragging him out of his shell.) If MT was attempting to do that, then good for her, but otherwise, that 2009 crap just seemed like an unnecessary dig.

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[Edited 1/15/17 16:53pm]

[Edited 1/15/17 17:00pm]

[Edited 1/15/17 17:05pm]

Are these the New Power Soul liner notes?

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All excellent points. Mani was not the only woman who lived in that house. His son died in the hospital but Mayte went into early labor so maybe that is where it happened. There were miscarriages but who knows where they happened.

I don't know about drugs being used to deal with emotional pain. It could be. It could be just the physical pain. It could be both. Physical pain can make emotional pain seem even worse (hell, it is also often the cause of emotional pain.)

paisleypearl said:

Did he and Mayte live in this house? If so maybe this is the house his son died in, where Mayte had the miscarriage and maybe even Mani had a miscarriage there. Prince tears the house down, runs away from the painful past, pretends it never happened. He doesn't deal with his pain, and starts self medicating to the point of addiction. He avoids emotional intimacy with Mani and she gets tired of all the sadness. Even in the IM he seems numb to their history together.

paisleypearl said:

Did he and Mayte live in this house? If so maybe this is the house his son died in, where Mayte had the miscarriage and maybe even Mani had a miscarriage there. Prince tears the house down, runs away from the painful past, pretends it never happened. He doesn't deal with his pain, and starts self medicating to the point of addiction. He avoids emotional intimacy with Mani and she gets tired of all the sadness. Even in the IM he seems numb to their history together.

PaisleyPearl,

I was thinking the same thing. My understanding is that there used to be a house next to the existing structure. I believe that it was this house where the playroom was. If memory serves me correctly, it was this house that he demolished near the end of his marriage to Mani.

There was a playroom in Paisley. (Oprah interview remember). But are you talking about the same one?

206Michelle said:

paisleypearl said:

Did he and Mayte live in this house? If so maybe this is the house his son died in, where Mayte had the miscarriage and maybe even Mani had a miscarriage there. Prince tears the house down, runs away from the painful past, pretends it never happened. He doesn't deal with his pain, and starts self medicating to the point of addiction. He avoids emotional intimacy with Mani and she gets tired of all the sadness. Even in the IM he seems numb to their history together.

PaisleyPearl,

I was thinking the same thing. My understanding is that there used to be a house next to the existing structure. I believe that it was this house where the playroom was. If memory serves me correctly, it was this house that he demolished near the end of his marriage to Mani.

purplerabbithole said:

Did P have the Galphin house built for him or was it already on the property?

purplerabbithole said:

Don't know. I said it was certainly possible the two of them were up to something more than hanging out and her working for him. But we don't know. Relationships are complicated obviously.

Plus, getting into P's inner circle doesn't automatically mean you are going to be able to 'steal' him away from his wife (unless P wants to be stolen.) She was cunning obviously, but anyone trying to get into Prince's inner circle had to be. Otherwise, how would you even get your foot in the door?

I don't mean to over-defend Mani but compared to Amber Hearst and Johnny Depp, Mani doesn't come off nearly as greedy or vindictive.

Also, I am not sure he was trying to hurt Mani with the demolition of the house. The house pre-dated her. Obviously, some bad shit happened in that house. Who is to say what it was. "Dead" and "infected" to me doesn't indicate adultry/cheating as much as loss and bad vibes. Of course, I would need to ask why it was included in the divorce papers? It could be as simple as the missing papers, pictures, videos and music videos that Prince removed from the house he was going to demolish and then Manuela being pissed because she could not find her stuff after the divorce was proceeding.

babynoz said:

Are these the New Power Soul liner notes?

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I was joking.

Prince defaults on Chanhassen mortgage, property facing foreclosure

Source: http://www.citypages.com/...re-6621826

Here is an article that mentions the demolition of a house in 2005.

babynoz said:

purplerabbithole said:

Don't know. I said it was certainly possible the two of them were up to something more than hanging out and her working for him. But we don't know. Relationships are complicated obviously.

Plus, getting into P's inner circle doesn't automatically mean you are going to be able to 'steal' him away from his wife (unless P wants to be stolen.) She was cunning obviously, but anyone trying to get into Prince's inner circle had to be. Otherwise, how would you even get your foot in the door?

I don't mean to over-defend Mani but compared to Amber Hearst and Johnny Depp, Mani doesn't come off nearly as greedy or vindictive.

Also, I am not sure he was trying to hurt Mani with the demolition of the house. The house pre-dated her. Obviously, some bad shit happened in that house. Who is to say what it was. "Dead" and "infected" to me doesn't indicate adultry/cheating as much as loss and bad vibes. Of course, I would need to ask why it was included in the divorce papers? It could be as simple as the missing papers, pictures, videos and music videos that Prince removed from the house he was going to demolish and then Manuela being pissed because she could not find her stuff after the divorce was proceeding.

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I was joking.

That long ass post of mine was my first one in this thread. I was responding to all theories.

I missed the joke because i misread what you wrote.I thought you were asking about her being mentioned in the liner notes, not being a smartass about the length of my beautifully-thorough response to this thread.

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

babynoz said:

I was joking.

I wonder why he didn't just sell the land when he demolished the house. Didn't prince have financial advisors and folks in charge of helping him pay his taxes on time so he doesn't incurr penalties while he was on the road. More careless with money than people realize.

Officially, 2005.

206Michelle said:

Prince defaults on Chanhassen mortgage, property facing foreclosure

Source: http://www.citypages.com/...re-6621826

Here is an article that mentions the demolition of a house in 2005.

laytonian said:

paisleypearl said:

purplerabbithole said:

All excellent points. Mani was not the only woman who lived in that house. His son died in the hospital but Mayte went into early labor so maybe that is where it happened. There were miscarriages but who knows where they happened.

I don't know about drugs being used to deal with emotional pain. It could be. It could be just the physical pain. It could be both. Physical pain can make emotional pain seem even worse (hell, it is also often the cause of emotional pain.)

Maybe Mayte's book will clear this up because I am real sure I read the baby died at home. Very sick baby with not much hope of survival, why stay in the dreadful hospital? I look forward to Mayte's book, I want to know of some balance of happy and sad in these folks lives. I support her 100 percent.

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No the baby died in the hospital. I'm fairly certain.

New Power Soul liner notes:

"TheNewPowerGeneration would like 2 praise God/Love/Truth 4 universal knowledge and preservation in the face of mendacity... thank u 4 everexpanding clarity. Chaka Khan, Larry Graham, Doug E. Fresh, Hornheadz and Kat Dyson: your contributions b da bomb... peace, at least! NPG Records thanx - (symbol) , Mayte, Jacqui Thompson, Willie Donwell, Parke, Billy Sparks, Opnmind, Milv, Evolve2001, Manuella T. and Love4Oneanother Charities, Inc.. NPG Records is owned and operated by the New Power Generation. A word 2 all up and coming "artists" - the art u create is an xtension of u and your contribution is priceless. Don't sell out. $ is only paper and your picture ain't on it, but a good song never dies. Much respect 2 the husbands and midwives and husbands - Chaka Khan, Larry Graham, Kirk Johnson 4 the drum and synth programs, Doug E. Fresh and the Hornheadz."

Release date: 30 june 1998.

It just dawned on me that the pool from the backyard of the Galphin ouse is gone!