purplerabbithole said:

Superfan1984 said:

purplerabbithole said:

MT and her husband might have paid for the memorial and she was married to Prince more recently than Mayte. . Ever single tribute to Prince has exploited Prince in some way or another. Really, is there one tribute in which former musicians of his didn't show off their abilities doing a version of his songs. Its all a bit opportunistic. Mayte brags about her time with Prince too on facebook and instagram. She doesn't post pictures of Prince before or after she wasn't involved. Its human nature. But people are capable of contradictory and complex emotions are they not? People do use the people they love sometimes. Prince probably did it too.

anangellooksdown said:

Superfan1984 said:

Ok- I've missed something. WHERE are you guys reading this "transcript" of this phone call? Can someone post a link please? Also, my two cents- yes, major maniupulation on MT2's part- I also noticed how hard she went at it on her FB day this article came out. She is a pro. But, a bit too much of a pro and it comes off very clear what she's doing. I don't believe she told him about this school at all ever- she decided it the day he died I'm sure- Of course if she had spoken with him she would loudly say, "We spoke, he said //// " and she can't say that. As for these threads being deleted- I'm sure he'll correct me if I'm wrong but to me, it looks as though she has "befriended" our moderator Militant- by putting him in the funeral program- asking for a quote from him- which was wonderful for him but I feel more of her manipulation so that she can have him delete threads, whatever- I could be wrong. I'm sure he'll set me straight.

She's not a pro at all. Anyone can see what she's like. Even Ray Charles and Stevie Wonder can too. 🎶 I didn't know about militant being in the program but a lot of that memorial had her manipulation in it. Her brother gave a speech and her husband sang? TOTALLY Mani-done. I said this back then. She even had to be at the top of the ex-wives' page in that program, with Mayte's photos and quotes underneath hers. And Mayte and Prince had a child.

Oh, I think she did something too. It is possible she cheated. But in her defense, we all know Prince's workaholic ways. Maybe she was lonely. Maybe it went down like this. He found out about the infidelity in 2005 and punished her through shutting down the house, credit cards being cut. At some point, he destroyed the house (either post divorce or before) and stored "valuable" items like file cabinets and jewerly elsewhere. She became mad when she couldn't find her papers and stuff and didn't realize he still had them from earlier. . I hope she got the immigration papers back. But, its not unreasonable to think that he just stored the shit somewhere and lost track (except the tapes which I know he probably just destroyed).. Prince seemed to be a bit of a pack rat and had a lot of stuff but she is right in saying he wouldn't have just deleted his work like that. "Punitive" is an interesting word to use.

But since she didn't file for divorce until 2006 and they did speak off and on and there was spiritual counceling, either one of them or both of them was/were trying to make it work. but it is just didn't.

anangellooksdown said:

purplerabbithole said:

I guess my point is that she brought up the subject of the house being torn down .He didn't. If he had brought it up, I would be more inclined to believe he was only just fucking with her. Could it just be that our boy is weird and doing something that he figured to be redemptive or cleansing? And it was just a painful approach for her?

I don't know if this was a post divorce conversaton or not? If it was post divorce, I am suprised he was still engaging with her at all? If it was during their marriage or the proceedings, he might have torn it down for a different reason than we think. Manuela had a miscarriage at some point with someone. If it was P, maybe it was in that house. Or maybe just maybe, P's religious beliefs and tendency to remove things that are upsetting to him made him feel the need to remove a painful reminder of divorce. You assume that he did it to spite her. But he wasn't spiting anyone when he tore down his dad's old house after he died..

Prince tended to run away from painful things (avoiding funerals and such). This would mean cutting off things like the home he shared with a woman who dumped him, but the interesting thing is that he was still engaging with her. So maybe he was trying to explain it to her and she took it as cold.

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If he was cleansing, or as you say, trying to rid himself of pain, that doesn't work. Anger and grudges remain. He might not have done it for spite. Either way, he did it. He locked her out of the house in the spring of 2005 and she filed for divorce a year later. So these conversations and the house being raised probably took place during that last year, which was probably a struggle of a year. Of course in her "40 things to know about me" or whatever that post on her FB was called this summer, she had to mention having had a miscarriage. That post was laced with MANIpulation too. But for as extreme as Prince could be sometimes, I think he wanted to be with this woman. I still feel she must've done something for him to tear down a whole house, cut off her credit cards, etc.

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paradise000 said:

another from the courthouse: https://pbs.twimg.com/med...name=large [Edited 1/13/17 14:18pm]

By him saying they are just things, material things. It kind of might give a little insight on why he didn't have a will. Maybe the material things he owned it just didn't matter to him where they went or what happened with them. The music though, that's more than just a material thing.

FlyOnTheWall said:

anangellooksdown said:

Superfan1984 said:

Ok- I've missed something. WHERE are you guys reading this "transcript" of this phone call? Can someone post a link please? Also, my two cents- yes, major maniupulation on MT2's part- I also noticed how hard she went at it on her FB day this article came out. She is a pro. But, a bit too much of a pro and it comes off very clear what she's doing. I don't believe she told him about this school at all ever- she decided it the day he died I'm sure- Of course if she had spoken with him she would loudly say, "We spoke, he said //// " and she can't say that. As for these threads being deleted- I'm sure he'll correct me if I'm wrong but to me, it looks as though she has "befriended" our moderator Militant- by putting him in the funeral program- asking for a quote from him- which was wonderful for him but I feel more of her manipulation so that she can have him delete threads, whatever- I could be wrong. I'm sure he'll set me straight.

She's not a pro at all. Anyone can see what she's like. Even Ray Charles and Stevie Wonder can too. 🎶 I didn't know about militant being in the program but a lot of that memorial had her manipulation in it. Her brother gave a speech and her husband sang? TOTALLY Mani-done. I said this back then. She even had to be at the top of the ex-wives' page in that program, with Mayte's photos and quotes underneath hers. And Mayte and Prince had a child.

Yes Militant was quoted in the Prince funeral program and I'm sure it was Manuela who contacted him and put him in it as it was obvious that she put the program together and invited Mayte. And then I noticed on here, threads about her started to get shut down (gee, I wonder why?) One thing I have done and do not want to do anymore is to tear someone down on the internet - like we do with Manuela-- it does take on a wolf pack mentality and honestly, none of us know her. Well, maybe some on here do. I have tried to stop speaking negatively on here about her but it's hard when she comes across as so calculating each and every time. Gosh. So, I'm gonna stop. Because I wouldn't want someone doing that to me and I'm sure none of us would. So damn. That's all. I will sit on my hands to stop typing responses to all this.

Manny interview in Rollingstone.

petalthecat said:

I DON'T RECALL!

2020 said:

My favorite part is Princes response to her outrageous request

“This is my normal life,” Prince’s response said. “By filing her (divorce) petition, (Testolini) severed her access to this lifestyle ... This is not a marital standard of living that can be recreated with money.”

BAM BINGO BOOM!

Why bother talking to her at all then? He could have just stopped responding to her emails etc. The divorce would have happened much faster that way and he could still claim she wanted the divorce. Why the spiritual counseling? The lines of communication were still open which says something because later apparently for at least a little while they were completely closed.

ceilidh said:

I think Prince was done with her at the time of these emails and was playing her, cordially, and was going to sit back and let her file for the divorce. She was apparently already cut off. IMHO.

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purplethunder3121 said:

2020 said:

My favorite part is Princes response to her outrageous request

“This is my normal life,” Prince’s response said. “By filing her (divorce) petition, (Testolini) severed her access to this lifestyle ... This is not a marital standard of living that can be recreated with money.”

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(respectful snippage)

We have to remember that this is standard divorce attorney work; they put together details of spending/income and then ask for an exhorbitant amount. She asked for $44K and got $10K until settlement.

What's surprising to me is the small amount spent on those Oscar/Grammy afterparties.

$50,000 is actually quite a reasonable number considering the amount of food, help and decor needed to put it together. Don't forget that every penny of that, including clothing worn to those events, etc, was tax-deductible for P.

Our daughter's wedding was over $12,000. That's about par for the course. A multi-millionnaire spending four times that much is actually budget-level. It was all about the music, of course. That's why people wanted to be there.

....and the house was "infested". With WHOM? Or just infested with too many sad memories (lost children, two marriages that fell apart).

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purplerabbithole said:

Why bother talking to her at all then? He could have just stopped responding to her emails etc. The divorce would have happened much faster that way and he could still claim she wanted the divorce. Why the spiritual counseling? The lines of communication were still open which says something because later apparently for at least a little while they were completely closed.

ceilidh said:

I think Prince was done with her at the time of these emails and was playing her, cordially, and was going to sit back and let her file for the divorce. She was apparently already cut off. IMHO.

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Who says he did communicate with her personally? Just like she changed her story from "I spoke to him" to "I reached out to him" to announce she was opening a school in his name. Why not making that announcement prior to his crossing? Why using his name now?

As for reaching out to spiritual advisers, this could have been to show the JW he was in good faith while encouraging her indirectly to file for divorce.

BillieBalloon said:

petalthecat said:

That conversation P and MT had which mentions the house being gone sounds to me like it was October/November 2005. The mention of seeing a tornado and French riots on the news is telling. Google French riots 2005.

Which tornado was this? I cant find any info.

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I'm not finding a 2005 tornado in Minnesota....but there were French student riots in early 2006. There are ALWAYS riots in France.

I don't know if this is what they're talking about, but: WHO NAMED THIS ONE?

The Rogers Tornado, September 16, 2006

This tornado that hit the Twin Cities metro area struck northern Hennepin County in the late evening. The F2 tornado struck at around 10 p.m. and destroyed over 300 buildings and homes.

Minneapolis.about.com

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BillieBalloon said:

petalthecat said:

That conversation P and MT had which mentions the house being gone sounds to me like it was October/November 2005. The mention of seeing a tornado and French riots on the news is telling. Google French riots 2005.

Which tornado was this? I cant find any info.

That's what I've been trying to figure out. Was his tornado reference his way of being facetious about their marital home being leveled by men with heavy machinery? Was Prince, in fact, the tornado??

petalthecat said:

That conversation P and MT had which mentions the house being gone sounds to me like it was October/November 2005. The mention of seeing a tornado and French riots on the news is telling. Google French riots 2005.

I don't think so. First of all, tornadoes are a spring/summer thing in the US. It'd be extremely rare for that to happen in October or November. And why would they be talking about riots in France? That makes no sense, at all.

Also, if I recall correctly, word that the house had been torn down didn't come out until at least mid-2006. Mani filed for divorce just before Memorial Day in 2006, but the news didn't break until July - shortly after Prince shut down the NPGMC without warning. (I remember a lot of discussion around the fact that the divorce was a motivating factor for that - because Prince wouldn't want people talking about the divorce in his "house," so to speak.)

laytonian said:

sonshine said:

laytonian said:

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I'm not finding a 2005 tornado in Minnesota....but there were French student riots in early 2006. There are ALWAYS riots in France.

I don't know if this is what they're talking about, but: WHO NAMED THIS ONE?

The Rogers Tornado, September 16, 2006

This tornado that hit the Twin Cities metro area struck northern Hennepin County in the late evening. The F2 tornado struck at around 10 p.m. and destroyed over 300 buildings and homes.

Minneapolis.about.com

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Rogers, MN is located in the northern suburbs of Mpls.

There you go. This makes sense.

Or maybe the real Rogers Tornado happened when Prince dozed the house.

Genesia said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

rogifan said:

sonshine said: It sickens me that the evil Star Tribune was able to get this unsealed but I'm not sure why anyone is surprised she'd want to maintain the lifestyle she had when she was married to him. Good grief there are so many celebrity divorces where the spouse ends up getting a huge settlement. Michael Douglas reportedly shelled out $45 million to his first wife which is why he has a pre-nup with Catherine Zeta Jones.

If it sickens you then the easiest way to not vomit is to not read it.

rogifan said:

babynoz said:

You guys were not around the org when CJ claimed in her column that wifey was her unlikely pen-pal and was in direct contact with the her around the time the divorce was filed. What does that make her for bringing the strib into it in the beginning?

http://prince.org/msg/5/198231


Sometimes the links don't work so you may need to copy and paste it.

Doesn't make me like the Star Tribune that's for sure. The only reason they wanted these files unsealed is because they thought (or were hoping) the documents would uncover some secret drug addiction and then they could splash that across their front page. So I am LMAO that they got nothing and this was an incredibly boring divorce as far as celebrity divorces go.

Not what I asked you...I don't own any stock in the Strib.

Let me reiterate that I am NOT concerned about individual like or dislike of a corporate entity. I asked what does that make the person who first brought them into it???

Furthermore, they weren't looking specifically for drug addiction info....that is misinformation. They were moreso seeking, info on whether he was ill, potential heirs and financial disclosures. The Strib filed their motion after the ruling was made in the estate case that the work product in the divorce case might have information on potential heirs.

As myself and others have tried to explain about a hundred times already, MN is a no fault divorce state and the file would not have contained information about any drug addiction anyway. No fault means grounds for divorce are not given. All that needs to be stated is that the marriage is irretrievably broken. You guys were told over and over that the file would be routine.

For the record, let me just say that I'm not concerned about the unsealing because I know that neither Prince nor his legacy were going to be harmed by it. My faith that Prince would never have done anything untoward is absolute.

Everybody else whose manuevers may get exposed is on their own as far as I am concerned....I cape for none of them, including former wifeys, associates, jumpoffs or the media.

My apologies for the long reply but this all goes back to my main point from the very beginning, which was that none of this would be happening IF people would keep their business to themselves and OFF of social media and stop trying to do the most and be seen, period, end of.

A smart person would lay low, especially due to the fact that there are still two criminal investigations and a probate case going on. I can tell you from many years of experience that the vast majority of cases are lost by people saying and doing too much rather than too little.

Genesia said:

Superfan1984 said:

As I read about him locking her out of the house/ putting her stuff in storage and cutting up the credit cards, Oran Juice Jone's song was running through my head, "Just chill cause you cole busted- I went to the bank- cut up all your credit cards..."

lol

Actually, I do see why she didn't want these unsealed- they show that she does have a love of the lifestyle and the money, something she always downplayed- even recently on her FB post abou the 40 things about me- or whatever when she said she never wore make up- didn't know how to apply it (I'm such a down to earth real girl) meanwhile, she wants to keep the 5,000 dollar make up artist for award shows and lavish parties afterwards- and for who? herself? Did she think she was the star? This is why she comes across as shifty and shady. All this, "Aw shucks, I'm just a humanitarian who doesn't like the spotlight and wouldn't know a lip liner from an eyeliner..." doesn't fly when she see that she came with nothing, left with a 6 million dollar home, lexus, and still wanted to maintain lavish parties , personal assistants and make up artists.....

I wonder if Eric wears Hush Puppies.

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Oh damn!!!!! good one Genesia!

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

This was not a long term marriage.

P married her at the end of 2001.

P locked her out of the house in May 2005.

3+ years of marriage.

Short term marriages are usually settled quickly, and without fanfare.

It took a year to settle his divorce.

That means she was asking for more than what P thought she should have.

P owned the house prior to the marriage so she did not have a marital interest in it.

If he wanted to bulldoze the house, so be it.

There is a reason the Judge redacted the financial terms of the Divorce Decree.

You know what's up.

Mumio said:

Genesia said:

I wonder if Eric wears Hush Puppies.

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Oh damn!!!!! good one Genesia!