skilletnomicrowave said:

SpinsterSister said:

Regarding #2.

I and others, are still wondering why NurseV, DiamondsNPearls44 and NinaB were permanently banned from the board? True, they would not let others get away with garbage, they would often come to defense of others or threads on the board, but I have not seen anything that would truly warrant a permanent ban.

Those two ladies were power houses on this board, good gals and as Prince focused as anybody else on this board but they're now gone. I understand politics, alliances and everything else that goes on in any social situation BUT.....what is good for the goose, is certainly good for the gander.

THANK YOU!

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PennyPurple said:

SpinsterSister said:

Regarding #2.

I and others, are still wondering why NurseV, DiamondsNPearls44 and NinaB were permanently banned from the board? True, they would not let others get away with garbage, they would often come to defense of others or threads on the board, but I have not seen anything that would truly warrant a permanent ban.

Those two ladies were power houses on this board, good gals and as Prince focused as anybody else on this board but they're now gone. I understand politics, alliances and everything else that goes on in any social situation BUT.....what is good for the goose, is certainly good for the gander.

I hope now that some more personal details of Prince's life are coming out and some folks are finally realizing that he was HUMAN - there won't be more uncalled for permanent banishments, threads being pulled or footsy playing allowed.

Sorry to derail this topic....carry on.

I wondered what happened to them.

Like the pyramids and bigfoot it shall remain a mystery I'm afraid.

wonder505 said:

musicfan77 said:

oh really? didn't know that. What year was 3121? And when did the Realty show start, wasn't it in 2012??? I thought she got permission from Prince to do that show. hmmmm.

Ah here we go: http://prince.org/msg/5/359910 and I stand corrected. this occurred before the Reality show. for some reason I thought it happened after.

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Wasn't it one of the W2A shows that m1 had to buy her own ticket to?. She became quite miffed IIRC.

Wasn't it after that when m1 and m2 became supposed buds? It could be that they teamed up to take a poke at Prince because he made one buy her own ticket and the other was told that she and hubby were not welcome at the Essence Pre-Grammy event.

PennyPurple said:

I know,

she was 25 and a fan when she married Prince..

I did not know that Nursev and NinaB were banned That is messed up

Superfan1984 said:

I did not know that Nursev and NinaB were banned That is messed up

Very sad.

Purplestar88 said:

Superfan1984 said:

I did not know that Nursev and NinaB were banned That is messed up

Very sad.

Agreed! I love them both.

FlyOnTheWall said:

2020 said:

http://m.startribune.com/unsealed-prince-divorce-file-shows-luxe-lifestyle-dispute-over-videos-jewels-and-photos/410652845/

The unsealed file from Prince’s second divorce offers a glimpse into the late musician’s luxe lifestyle and the more routine spousal disputes over access to property, such as childhood photos, videos and jewelry.

While they were married, Manuela Testolini said she and Prince threw big parties after major awards shows like the Golden Globes, Oscars and the Grammys. For the events, Testolini would hire a $5,000-a-day stylist to do her hair and makeup. The couple would spend $50,000 per party on food, drinks and decor, the records showed. In 2004 alone, Prince earned $42 million.

“We had accounts at boutiques including Gucci, Versace and Valentino. We had accounts at Saks. There was never any restriction on (Prince’s) or my spending,” she said.

Divorce files are generally public, though judges often will agree to seal them if both parties to the case agree and no one else objects. The documents, made public after the Star Tribune moved to unseal the files following the star’s accidental death in April from the painkiller fentanyl, also revealed that in May 2005, Prince locked Testolini out of their home on Galpin Avenue in Chanhassen. He also cut off her credit cards, boxed up her stuff and stowed it in the vault in Paisley Park for “safe keeping,” according to an order signed by former Judge Tanja Manrique on March 16, 2010. Prince then tore down the house.

The couple’s divorce was granted in October 2007, but two years later, Testolini claimed Prince had not returned several personal items, including copies of videos he made based on songs he had written for her: “Gamillah” and “Another Girl.” He also had not returned jewelry, including a gold and diamond earring set from Tiffany and an antique gold and amethyst earring, necklace, bracelet set from the vintage store “The Way We Wore,” as well photographs, memorabilia and scrapbooks. In all, the items were valued at $185,000.

• Court holds off determini...see estate

At that time, Prince was representing himself and didn’t respond to the court.

In her documents, Testolini said Prince claimed the videos had been deleted and he didn’t know the whereabouts of the items. She disputed that, saying Prince never destroyed every copy of a video and that if he did, “his actions were purely punitive.”

The unsealing of the divorce documents came amid the ongoing legal dispute over the legitimate heirs to Prince’s vast fortune. The megastar, who was found dead in an elevator at Paisley Park, had no will. Carver County District Judge Kevin Eide is overseeing the case. He has indicated that the surviving siblings, including Prince’s sister Tyka Nelson and five half-siblings, will likely claim at least part of a fortune estimated at somewhere between $100 million and $300 million before taxes.

Prince and Testolini, the musician’s second wife, met when she was a consultant for his charity, Love 4 One Another, according to the documents. They married on Christmas in 2001 when she was 25 and he was 43. She said they lived “an extravagant lifestyle” with each having their own personal assistant. They had a housekeeper and a personal chef preparing their dinners, the documents showed.

Testolini said she “routinely had massages, spa treatments, manicures, pedicures and facials.” She and Prince traveled frequently, renting homes for months at a time in California and Hawaii, flew private planes and spent up to $15,000 per night on hotel suites.

In 2004, Prince released his album “Musicology,” which sold more than 2 million copies in the United States. The Musicology tour was the top grossing U.S. Tour in 2004, bringing in $87.4 million, she wrote.

The Star Tribune moved to unseal the files after questioning whether they would shed light on why Prince was taking painkillers, any potential heirs, or the value of his estate at the time of the divorce. The files didn’t provide any insight into those issues.

The documents also don’t explain why Prince and Testolini divorced, although the couple did seek counseling from New York City-based elders of their shared Jehovah’s Witness faith. She has since remarried and had children with another man.

In recent months, Testolini fought the release of the divorce documents, claiming disclosure would put her and her family at risk.

The documents do not show financial details of the final divorce settlement. At one point in the filings, Testolini said she was not seeking permanent monthly support.

She did, however, receive a house in Toronto worth approximately $6 million and a Lexus automobile. During their split, she initially received $10,000 a month in support. Prince also transferred $3 million to an account, Gamillah Holdings Inc., which was opened with $1 million in December 2002 and over which she had control.

In court filings, Prince rejected Testolini’s claim that she needed $42,574 a month, which she said amounted to no more than 2 percent of his monthly earnings, to maintain a lifestyle that included attending the awards shows and hosting parties afterward.

“This is my normal life,” Prince’s response said. “By filing her (divorce) petition, (Testolini) severed her access to this lifestyle ... This is not a marital standard of living that can be recreated with money.”

The documents also include a transcript of a deposition Prince gave in May 2008 where he was questioned by Testolini’s lawyer. The portrait of the artist that emerges from the pages is similar to his public persona. He only grudgingly gives up insight or substantive answers. Many of his responses are some variation of, “I don’t know” or “I don’t recall.”

Based on this report, I would say the main thing that she wanted to keep under wraps is that she was demanding over $40,000 a month in spousal support to allow her to keep up the lavish lifestyle to which she had become accustomed as Prince's wife, including all the servants, services, parties, clothing, etc.

Exactly. Which is absolute ludacris.

rogifan said:

I can think of a lot of celebrities who got divorced and had to pay their ex a huge sum of money. I love that it makes the Star Tribune look bad though. They wanted dirt and got absolutely nothing. In terms of celebrity divorces this one was pretty boring.

Deepurple said:

You know the song "Find Another Love"? I know it was originally written & sung by someone else but P added to it & it sounds like he was talking about Manuela." You said I was what you wanted...Liar! You never wanted me that way...I was someone you flaunted..Hired, Fired U never had a plan to stay..I tried to b what you wanted...I'm tired,tired..The house we use to share is Haunted...Expired, Expired. U use to think I was so much fun, now I'm just the guilty one..Everthing we use to share our clothes and even our hair.Now all you see is what I did, How come I can't tell me that kid. Behind my back I'm just a so and so ( I think he must have been referring to Tamar going on tour with him) But she refused to travel with him. By this point I believe she was developing a relationship with Eric. In his song "Love" he talked about her "playing him" It makes me so sad for P because he really loved her and thought she would share his life and his faith with him but it seems she just used him. She has no idea what she did..She was in such a favored position and she could have been a true companion & helper to him. Together she and he could have helped so many people physically & spiritually. But she only thought about her candles & charity...sad

I have always thought he was singing to/about her in Another Love

But I thoroughly disagree that 'she has no idea what she did' She ABSOLUTELY knew what she did.

ForeverPaisley said:

I have always thought he was singing to/about her in Another Love

i always thought so too. i said it at the time and got flamed. people said he was talking about aa. probably some words in his re-write about both of those break-ups.

ForeverPaisley said:

Deepurple said:

You know the song "Find Another Love"? I know it was originally written & sung by someone else but P added to it & it sounds like he was talking about Manuela." You said I was what you wanted...Liar! You never wanted me that way...I was someone you flaunted..Hired, Fired U never had a plan to stay..I tried to b what you wanted...I'm tired,tired..The house we use to share is Haunted...Expired, Expired. U use to think I was so much fun, now I'm just the guilty one..Everthing we use to share our clothes and even our hair.Now all you see is what I did, How come I can't tell me that kid. Behind my back I'm just a so and so ( I think he must have been referring to Tamar going on tour with him) But she refused to travel with him. By this point I believe she was developing a relationship with Eric. In his song "Love" he talked about her "playing him" It makes me so sad for P because he really loved her and thought she would share his life and his faith with him but it seems she just used him. She has no idea what she did..She was in such a favored position and she could have been a true companion & helper to him. Together she and he could have helped so many people physically & spiritually. But she only thought about her candles & charity...sad

I have always thought he was singing to/about her in Another Love

But I thoroughly disagree that 'she has no idea what she did' She ABSOLUTELY knew what she did.

But they had been divorced for many years prior to Plectrum

ForeverPaisley said:

GimmeThat said:

ForeverPaisley said:

I have always thought he was singing to/about her in Another Love

But I thoroughly disagree that 'she has no idea what she did' She ABSOLUTELY knew what she did.

I thought he was singing this to/about Andy because of the lyrics abour everything we used 2 share, our clothes and even our hair. And the timing of their split is close to when he likely recorded this. Co-sign on she knows what she did.

Except he mentions the house they used to share which is now gone, expired. The house on Galpin was bulldozed before he even knew Andy Allo.

I too would think he was referring to Manuela or Mayte.

malbena said:

GimmeThat said:

malbena said:

Except he mentions the house they used to share which is now gone, expired. The house on Galpin was bulldozed before he even knew Andy Allo.

I too would think he was referring to Manuela or Mayte.

I see your point for sure. I just think their afros (which was a look that he started to cultivate after she came into his life) and the fact they dressed alike are inspiration for some of the lyrics. He even wore a shirt with her face on it. Maybe it's about all of these ladies in some way. He unfortunately did not have a shortage of heartbreak.

Exactly! One can only speculate about his songs which is maybe what he intended to do by leaving interpretation run free. There is no shortage of women for sure to which any of the reference can apply.

I always thought the Most Beautiful Woman in the World was about Mayte yet Mani states in the Rolling Stone magazine that Prince told him it was about all the women in the world. This is even more confusing.

rogifan said:

PeteSilas said:

you're not getting me, i'm saying i was hoping there would be some thread of reason as to why he's not here. Why the hell would i hope he was on drugs? that's ridiculous. I still want to know what happened last april.

I guess I am confused. What would the divorce records tell us about why he's no longer here?

Ditto. Especially when those divorce records are from a decade before hand, not like the year before, for example.

malbena said:

GimmeThat said:

malbena said: I see your point for sure. I just think their afros (which was a look that he started to cultivate after she came into his life) and the fact they dressed alike are inspiration for some of the lyrics. He even wore a shirt with her face on it. Maybe it's about all of these ladies in some way. He unfortunately did not have a shortage of heartbreak.

Exactly! One can only speculate about his songs which is maybe what he intended to do by leaving interpretation run free. There is no shortage of women for sure to which any of the reference can apply.

I always thought the Most Beautiful Woman in the World was about Mayte yet Mani states in the Rolling Stone magazine that Prince told him it was about all the women in the world. This is even more confusing.

I think he wrote TMBGITW about Mayte. Either Mani is lying about what she says Prince told her, or P just told her that to quiet her insecurities.

FlyOnTheWall said:

malbena said:

Exactly! One can only speculate about his songs which is maybe what he intended to do by leaving interpretation run free. There is no shortage of women for sure to which any of the reference can apply.

I always thought the Most Beautiful Woman in the World was about Mayte yet Mani states in the Rolling Stone magazine that Prince told him it was about all the women in the world. This is even more confusing.

I think he wrote TMBGITW about Mayte. Either Mani is lying about what she says Prince told her, or P just told her that to quiet her insecurities.

Probably! Considering Manuela is not stunning ...at all.

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malbena said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

I think he wrote TMBGITW about Mayte. Either Mani is lying about what she says Prince told her, or P just told her that to quiet her insecurities.

Probably! Considering Manuela is not stunning ...at all.

[Edited 1/16/17 20:33pm]

the timeline is all wrong, i thought he hadn't met mani until 98.

ForeverPaisley said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

Based on this report, I would say the main thing that she wanted to keep under wraps is that she was demanding over $40,000 a month in spousal support to allow her to keep up the lavish lifestyle to which she had become accustomed as Prince's wife, including all the servants, services, parties, clothing, etc.

Exactly. Which is absolute ludacris.

Isnt Absolute Ludacris a rapper?

malbena said:

GimmeThat said:

ForeverPaisley said: I thought he was singing this to/about Andy because of the lyrics abour everything we used 2 share, our clothes and even our hair. And the timing of their split is close to when he likely recorded this. Co-sign on she knows what she did.

Except he mentions the house they used to share which is now gone, expired. The house on Galpin was bulldozed before he even knew Andy Allo.

I too would think he was referring to Manuela or Mayte.

Exactly. The mystery of timing is resolved in the song.

Genesia said:

Superfan1984 said:

anangellooksdown said:

What I've seen is that she wanted to go to one of his shows in 2011 and he said yes but that she would have to pay for either her ticket or VIP access (I'm not sure which, or both, could've just been for VIP access). I always felt that he was either: 1) wanting to see if she could humble herself enough to be one of many rather than seek special attention; or 2) didn't really want her there for some reason. My thinking is that #1 was more the case. I believe than that her error was in the way she handled it, which was instead of just maturely saying "Sure. Of course I'll pay," she made the error of taking it personally and being hurt/offended and then her pride came in with some anger and a sense of entitlement and she posted on he FB page telling people what Prince wanted and then asking people what she should do. Of course this started a sh-storm of backlash against Prince and it is that precise behavior that I think ruined any chance of them getting close again. Dr Funkenberry tells it in much the same way. Like Dr F, I believe they both could've used some ego deflation but at that time they weren't mature enough yet. I think later on Prince felt for her and I definitely know that now he is truly sorry for any hurt he caused her. Edit: I've got some catching up on reading to do over the last two pages here. If I got anything wrong I'll edit it 🙂 [Edited 1/17/17 6:41am]

Couldn't have caught me out there like that cuz I'd have assumed I'd pay and had the money in hand.

Let him say Nah, that's ok. No embarrassment then.

That's when you're being a grownup.

JMHO

I'm assuming that Minnesota is an Equitable Distribution State and the judge decides what's fair in the event of a divorce? Thank God he didnt marry in Cali. where righteous fleecing abounds. I wonder if he had a pre/post nup that was different than the ruling? I dont understand how she walked out of there with a pair of shoes still afixed to her feet. I would've presented my receipt and unhinged them in the courthouse as part of my property.