amimissinsumthin said:

BillboardMagazine cover story of Prince (Gail Mitchell, January 22, 2013)

..."Talk turns to his latest protégé, Andy Allo. “What does it take to get a record played these days?” he asks. He executive-produced Allo’s Superconductor (Allo Evolution), a funk and jazz romp through very Princely territory featuring Trombone Shorty and Maceo Parker and released in November. A guitarist/vocalist who joined Prince’s NPG band in 2001, she recently appeared on “Jimmy Kimmel Live!” But so far there’s no appreciable radio attention around her project."

And? Your point is not clear. You might not be aware of it, but the vast majority of independent artists struggle for radio air time. Even Prince, himself, faced this problem, as most radio stations would not play his newer, independently released songs. There is even an older thread on the org dedicated to his lack of penetration in "mainstream" radio markets. Still, he was selling out HUGE venues around the world. AA has also been consistently touring.

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http://prince.org/msg/7/349162

lemoncrush19 said:

Lovejunky said:

I sometimes feel sad about this too...especially when some of the "opinions" I read about Prince just DONT Match how "I SEE him"..I often feel very defensive, I want to slap some people...but then I remember that Prince himself said that other peoples opinions of him says more about THEM them than it does about him . That has helped me stay out of too much trouble on the org. I tend to stay out of discussions that contradict my own inner compass, and as time goes by IM finding that people who are aligned in their posative insights and opinions about him, find each other and tend to cluster together....

I'm downright ok with every opinion anyone might have. as long as it is delivered as opinion = a personal point of view.
this is what - IMO - a board like this is all about (or could be): sharing opinions. and knowledge of course. but ppl seem to have troubles separating one from another. and endling up in fierce fighting about each and every topic. it's all about the ego, 2 be right and having the final say each and everytime instead of being curious about the others opinion, listening and learning (as a beautiful option of course). THAT makes me sad.

ppl in general tend 2 blame others 4 the bad things happening in their life instead of focussing on the good things and be grateful 4 what they have. that's the main reason - IMO - this world is like it is and most ppl live a life they don't like. but prince was the perfect role model 4 choosing the opposite way - his entire life. and he tried 2 teach his fans. his intention was uplifting in each and every way. what makes me sad is that it seems like nearly no one was listening. clicking through all those threads on this board it looks like most orgers are checking in on a daily basis just 2 dump their own frustration, searching 4 someone 2 blame, finding anything 2 criticise that someone else did/said/created and looking 4 trouble. in fact they are turning almost every single thread into a battlefield in no time. that's the job of the tabloids and they did it quite well all those years and still do. I'm ok with that too. it's their job. I just don't read it. but claimimg 2 be a prince fan or better "fam" 4 decades and "knowing" him could ((!) I put it conscious as an option!) have easily led 2 another mindset. but it didn't. THAT makes me sad.

faaaaar from topic I know ... sorry 4 that

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FlyOnTheWall said:

purplegirl00 said:

You're too funny trying to turn this on me when I'm NOT the one creating a fairytale out of pictures and cutsie/ childish social media posts that were meant to PUNK us.

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You've been called out by a few posters already so it's evident whatever you're trying to sell, not many are buying but I'll leave you to it. BYE..

I'm not selling anything. I am merely trying to curate the major events and collaborations of Prince's final five years. As fate would have it, Andy Allo is at the center of that historic period of his life and career. That is undeniable.

They were in a relationship and loved each other very much. That’s pretty clear to see from the photos and the songs…Anyone who’s been paying attention to Prince over the last few years knows about him and Andy. The issue here is not even about Andy and Prince anymore, it’s about how it seems as if there is an over investment in being proven right, and it comes off as obsessive. It’s not normal. It’s like you’re her manager or publicist. It seems like you’re getting paid, or on the AlloEvolution payroll. You’re fighting harder for their relationship than even Prince and Andy themselves. Then you want to call everyone haters, or say that we are in denial. I’m not denying what is crystal clear. The love happened, but you are going above and beyond the call of duty about convincing everyone how deep and soulful and earth shattering it was. We GET it. We ALL like Andy here, and that’s why we’re on this thread. I especially came here to find out about interviews I might have missed out on in the past... So yes I will continue to “lurk” as you say, not because I can’t get enough of Andy, but because I do want to see how you will continue to flip out and snap on me and anyone who is not geeked up about Andy, and who disagrees with you. Andy is beautiful and bubbly and talented, I agree with that, but in Andy’s own words as of the last few weeks with her new songs on Facebook Mondays, Prince said that "they were like two ships passing in the night” and “she was too young to love”…and Andy said “words crumble”…Sadly it wasn’t meant to be, and he moved on to other women. You say that Andy is the love of his life above Denise, Mayte, Manuella, and all the women he’s been linked to in the past and in the recent years(Judith,Deliah,Lala,ect) you dismiss them as nothing compared to Andy….but if P was begging her back after he pushed her away as your theory states, and he was still emotionally tied to her in an emotional relationship until the very end in April, then why would Prince continue to be seen with other women, and in essence keep hurting Andy, as opposed to trying to win her trust back by not even having the appearance of dealing with other ladies on that level? He could have shut it ALL down, and Andy should have taken him back if that was the case. That’s on her. If Prince was headed to the altar to be married to Andy for sure as you say, and his illness stopped him, and he pushed Andy away...but then he begged for her back in the recent years because he was heartbroken and miserable without her, but she wanted the ring...then why didn’t he agree to marriage if he desperately wanted her back even up until this past April? It seemed like he would be ecstatic to win her back and would love to get married, even if it was for a short while…since she was THE ONE, THE ONLY ONE, and THE LAST ONE, the CENTER OF HIS WORLD, as you stated... and yes I did see the rings they were wearing in all of the photos you posted so I am not disputing that….However they did not make it to the altar, and Prince did what he wanted to do…it was both their losses at the end of the day, such as life….

SayItsJustADream said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

I'm not selling anything. I am merely trying to curate the major events and collaborations of Prince's final five years. As fate would have it, Andy Allo is at the center of that historic period of his life and career. That is undeniable.

They were in a relationship and loved each other very much. That’s pretty clear to see from the photos and the songs…Anyone who’s been paying attention to Prince over the last few years knows about him and Andy. The issue here is not even about Andy and Prince anymore, it’s about how it seems as if there is an over investment in being proven right, and it comes off as obsessive. It’s not normal. It’s like you’re her manager or publicist. It seems like you’re getting paid, or on the AlloEvolution payroll. You’re fighting harder for their relationship than even Prince and Andy themselves. Then you want to call everyone haters, or say that we are in denial. I’m not denying what is crystal clear. The love happened, but you are going above and beyond the call of duty about convincing everyone how deep and soulful and earth shattering it was. We GET it. We ALL like Andy here, and that’s why we’re on this thread. I especially came here to find out about interviews I might have missed out on in the past... So yes I will continue to “lurk” as you say, not because I can’t get enough of Andy, but because I do want to see how you will continue to flip out and snap on me and anyone who is not geeked up about Andy, and who disagrees with you. Andy is beautiful and bubbly and talented, I agree with that, but in Andy’s own words as of the last few weeks with her new songs on Facebook Mondays, Prince said that "they were like two ships passing in the night” and “she was too young to love”…and Andy said “words crumble”…Sadly it wasn’t meant to be, and he moved on to other women. You say that Andy is the love of his life above Denise, Mayte, Manuella, and all the women he’s been linked to in the past and in the recent years(Judith,Deliah,Lala,ect) you dismiss them as nothing compared to Andy….but if P was begging her back after he pushed her away as your theory states, and he was still emotionally tied to her in an emotional relationship until the very end in April, then why would Prince continue to be seen with other women, and in essence keep hurting Andy, as opposed to trying to win her trust back by not even having the appearance of dealing with other ladies on that level? He could have shut it ALL down, and Andy should have taken him back if that was the case. That’s on her. If Prince was headed to the altar to be married to Andy for sure as you say, and his illness stopped him, and he pushed Andy away...but then he begged for her back in the recent years because he was heartbroken and miserable without her, but she wanted the ring...then why didn’t he agree to marriage if he desperately wanted her back even up until this past April? It seemed like he would be ecstatic to win her back and would love to get married, even if it was for a short while…since she was THE ONE, THE ONLY ONE, and THE LAST ONE, the CENTER OF HIS WORLD, as you stated... and yes I did see the rings they were wearing in all of the photos you posted so I am not disputing that….However they did not make it to the altar, and Prince did what he wanted to do…it was both their losses at the end of the day, such as life….

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SayItsJustADream said:

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Hi, SayItsJustADream! Welcome!! Thank you for your engagement. For the record, I am in no way affiliated with Andy Allo or Allo Evolution. I am merely a Prince "fam" who is interested in piecing together his final years.

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It's unfortunate that you're unhappy with the offerings of this thread, other than the shared past interviews, any number of which I have posted here. It might surprise you to learn that all I do to find those interviews is do Google searches. That's right: Google is filled with Andy Allo interviews, which one can peruse to his/her heart's content. So, if this thread becomes too disturbing to you, Google is always an option. That notwithstanding, feel free to to your heart's content.

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That said, you falsely attributed the following theory to me, which I do not appreciate. You wrote:

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You say that Andy is the love of his life above Denise, Mayte, Manuella, and all the women he’s been linked to in the past and in the recent years(Judith,Deliah,Lala,ect) you dismiss them as nothing compared to Andy

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This is a complete mischaracterization of my words. What I have said is that Andy was Prince's last great love. Indeed, it is rare that I have introduced the name of any of Prince's other associates, proteges, or loves. Yes, I have responded to repeated questions about certain other Prince friends, proteges, or loves, but never in a disrespectful way. In fact, the only times I can recall mentioning other of his loves, unprompted, is in these instances.

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First, someone asked about this picture of Prince and Andy with her wearing his ring. It is the photo that Andy posted with her tribute to Prince. I will include it again here, since many orgers do not read through the entire thread.

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Later, someone asked why he didn't give her a real engagement ring, instead of the diamond band that she was wearing, which was supposedly the pinkie ring that Prince was often seen wearing. I responded by asking if anyone has ever seen a picture of Sheila or Susannah wearing P's ring. Of course, I mentioned them because both of them were reportedly engaged to Mr. Nelson.

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Some time after that, I just happened to discover this Claridge's London rocking zebra photo that Prince took of Andy wearing this ginormous diamond solitaire on her left ring finger.

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When someone downplayed the ring's significance, I once again asked if they had ever seen Sheila or Susannah wearing his ring, as they were reportedly engaged to him. That was not meant to be dismissive. I asked this question then, and I ask it again now, in complete sincerity.

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On another occasion, someone posed this question: "If he loved Andy so much, why didn't he marry her?" In this instance, I used the example of Vanity, who Prince never married. Yet, she is believed to be the love of his life by a substantial number of Prince "fams." And that's not to say that she was not. Perhaps she was. I simply posed this as a counter question: Why do we never hear such questions about Denise?

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Lastly, you say that everyone on this thread loves Andy. That might indeed be the case, but some have a funny way of showing it. Thus, sometimes I feel the need to respond to certain negative, dismissive statements made about her and her relationship with Prince. I'm sorry that bothers you. In the final analysis, though, thank you for your comments. Perhaps some others among the Andy lovers on this thread have been having similar concerns. Your reply presented the opportunity to clear up any such questions. For that, I thank you.

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Andy Allo Posted This New Year's Message Today.

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That was not a mischaracterization or falsehood in my eyes. Clarification was indeed needed on the last great love. When Susannah or Shelia E. were brought up in regards to the rings, you asked the poster to post any photos of “associates” with engagement rings,(with the word associates in quotes, as to downplay them in comparison,(which was the impression I got) and then said “We’ll wait.” I took that as a sarcastic response, and dismissive towards them, in that they didn’t have rings but Andy did. This was reply #1296 on Christmas Day. If you say that was sincere, then okay. When Mayte was spoken on by others, you said that she and Prince hadn’t spoken in years.(I had heard that Mayte herself stated this). For the more recent years/women, you said that only Andy’s picture is in the Galaxy Room.

Your words in reply #1551 earlier today, for number 7. "Last, but not least, there is only one photo of a woman in the Galaxy Room at Paisley Park, which Prince used for meditation. That is Andy Allo. Not one of his ex-wives. Not Denise. Not Sheila. Not Susannah. Andy.”

With the emphasis on the words One and Andy, and saying “not one of his ex-wives...” and then listing the other women...I took that as again, you dismissing the other ladies as less than Andy.

When Judith was brought up or Lala,(this part was weeks ago) and a poster would ask, “what about this person or that person?” I don’t remember you speaking to their names specifically, but you referred to the later women in Prince’s life after Andy as “dalliances”, as in “Whatever dalliances Prince may have had…” I took that to mean whomever he was linked to romantically after Andy, you saw these relationships as not as serious and deep and profound as what he had with Andy and their love in comparison. Overall, this is what I saw communicated, and what I meant by when I said that you dismiss these women as “nothing compared to Andy." If you felt slighted by that, I don’t know what else to tell you. I don’t have the motivation or energy to go back through 50+ pages to find other exact quotes, but they are all still there for anyone else who is interested. Since you said that you did not mean to dismiss these other ladies in comparison to Andy, then okay. But I am not making this all up and I am not a liar...Again we know that Prince and Andy shared a great love, but there are still questions. So….. which is it? Prince was begging Andy back and she wouldn’t take him back…or Andy wanted to come back but wanted the ring, and he wasn’t ready because of his past failed marriages?…but then they were going to be married for sure in the future? This is what you implied.…and another question, what about him not shutting down all the women so that Andy could trust him again? Why didn’t he do that? Seems like an easy thing to do for the woman you want to marry... Andy was the total package, but It didn't happen…and we will never know for sure…As I said I like Andy and she’s talented and insightful,and was meaningful in Prince’s life, but does it take 50 and 60 and 70 pages in a thread to hash this all out? It looks like it does…and will It’s just a lot…a whole lot...Anyways, I will be lurking to my very heart's content, best be sure!

FlyOnTheWall said:

That said, you falsely attributed the following theory to me, which I do not appreciate. You wrote:

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You say that Andy is the love of his life above Denise, Mayte, Manuella, and all the women he’s been linked to in the past and in the recent years(Judith,Deliah,Lala,ect) you dismiss them as nothing compared to Andy

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This is a complete mischaracterization of my words. What I have said is that Andy was Prince's last great love. Indeed, it is rare that I have introduced the name of any of Prince's other associates, proteges, or loves. Yes, I have responded to repeated questions about certain other Prince friends, proteges, or loves, but never in a disrespectful way. In fact, the only times I can recall mentioning other of his loves, unprompted, is in these instances.

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Later, someone asked why he didn't give her a real engagement ring, instead of the diamond band that she was wearing, which was supposedly the pinkie ring that Prince was often seen wearing. I responded by asking if anyone has ever seen a picture of Sheila or Susannah wearing P's ring. Of course, I mentioned them because both of them were reportedly engaged to Mr. Nelson.

FlyOnTheWall said:

On The One....@ the Sziget Fesztivál (Budapest)... 9 August 2011

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Funk Face x 2...@ the Sziget Fesztivál (Budapest)... 9 August 2011

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Andy Allo...I Call This One, "The Half Has Never Been Told"...@ the Sziget Fesztivál (Budapest)... 9 August 2011

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SayItsJustADream said:

That was not a mischaracterization or falsehood in my eyes. Clarification was indeed needed on the last great love. When Susannah or Shelia E. were brought up in regards to the rings, you asked the poster to post any photos of “associates” with engagement rings,(with the word associates in quotes, as to downplay them in comparison,(which was the impression I got) and then said “We’ll wait.” I took that as a sarcastic response, and dismissive towards them, in that they didn’t have rings but Andy did. This was reply #1296 on Christmas Day. If you say that was sincere, then okay. When Mayte was spoken on by others, you said that she and Prince hadn’t spoken in years.(I had heard that Mayte herself stated this). For the more recent years/women, you said that only Andy’s picture is in the Galaxy Room.

Your words in reply #1551 earlier today, for number 7. "Last, but not least, there is only one photo of a woman in the Galaxy Room at Paisley Park, which Prince used for meditation. That is Andy Allo. Not one of his ex-wives. Not Denise. Not Sheila. Not Susannah. Andy.”

With the emphasis on the words One and Andy, and saying “not one of his ex-wives...” and then listing the other women...I took that as again, you dismissing the other ladies as less than Andy.

When Judith was brought up or Lala,(this part was weeks ago) and a poster would ask, “what about this person or that person?” I don’t remember you speaking to their names specifically, but you referred to the later women in Prince’s life after Andy as “dalliances”, as in “Whatever dalliances Prince may have had…” I took that to mean whomever he was linked to romantically after Andy, you saw these relationships as not as serious and deep and profound as what he had with Andy and their love in comparison. Overall, this is what I saw communicated, and what I meant by when I said that you dismiss these women as “nothing compared to Andy." If you felt slighted by that, I don’t know what else to tell you. I don’t have the motivation or energy to go back through 50+ pages to find other exact quotes, but they are all still there for anyone else who is interested. Since you said that you did not mean to dismiss these other ladies in comparison to Andy, then okay. But I am not making this all up and I am not a liar...Again we know that Prince and Andy shared a great love, but there are still questions. So….. which is it? Prince was begging Andy back and she wouldn’t take him back…or Andy wanted to come back but wanted the ring, and he wasn’t ready because of his past failed marriages?…but then they were going to be married for sure in the future? This is what you implied.…and another question, what about him not shutting down all the women so that Andy could trust him again? Why didn’t he do that? Seems like an easy thing to do for the woman you want to marry... Andy was the total package, but It didn't happen…and we will never know for sure…As I said I like Andy and she’s talented and insightful,and was meaningful in Prince’s life, but does it take 50 and 60 and 70 pages in a thread to hash this all out? It looks like it does…and will It’s just a lot…a whole lot...Anyways, I will be lurking to my very heart's content, best be sure!

FlyOnTheWall said:

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SayItsJustADream, all I have done is state my findings. I can't take responsibility for how that makes you or others feel. Also, with regard to other associates, proteges, or friends Prince might have been intimate with during his last five years--and "might" is the operative word--I have tried very hard to avoid that line of discussion. After all, this thread is about Prince and Andy's collaborations. Certain commenters, however, just keep inserting a couple of names into the discussion with "What about so-and-so?" questions.

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After awhile, I felt that I needed to address the questions as directly and succinctly as possible. I gave honest answers: I have not seen any evidence that points to Prince having any serious romantic involvements, other than with Andy, in his last five years. I did use the word "dalliances," for lack of a better word; however, I think it is less unflattering than the term Prince used in his last known song, "Stay Cool," which is "candy girl." BTW: I believe this song was also inspired by Andy. He wrote:

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Don’t worry what’s happenin wit the candy girl
U’re the only one that matters in my world
Alright?….Alright?
Alright

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Additionally, you wrote: "[W]e know that Prince and Andy shared a great love, but there are still questions." On this point, we are in total agreement. There are many questions, and I don't have all the answers. That's why I'm trying to fit the pieces of the proverbial puzzle together.

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I think it is safe to assume P and AA's "great love" explains why her picture alone is on permanent display at Paisley Park in Prince's Meditation Room. That is a fact, in no way meant to be "dismissive." It just is what it is. I only mentioned the other names whose pictures are not there because the person to whom I was responding had mentioned certain people. Same thing with the rings P put on Andy's finger. Again, if folks don't want to hear the unvarnished truth, they shouldn't ask the question(s).

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In conclusion, I won't take the time to respond to everything you find problematic about me and my writings. That would take far too much time and space. And, based on your snarky remark about the number of pages on this thread, you already find that very problematic. Let me just say that this thread would not be nearly as long if I didn't have to keep repeating the same points over and over to commenters who either don't read the entire thread, and just jump to the later pages, or they have read my findings, but they just don't like them.

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P. S. It is never my intent to be "sarcastic" or mean-spirited with respondents; however, my tone tends to match that of the person to whom I'm responding. In case you haven't noticed, the org is a tough crowd, so sometimes I have to stand my ground. But, it's all in love. &

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FlyOnTheWall said:

SayItsJustADream said:

That was not a mischaracterization or falsehood in my eyes. Clarification was indeed needed on the last great love. When Susannah or Shelia E. were brought up in regards to the rings, you asked the poster to post any photos of “associates” with engagement rings,(with the word associates in quotes, as to downplay them in comparison,(which was the impression I got) and then said “We’ll wait.” I took that as a sarcastic response, and dismissive towards them, in that they didn’t have rings but Andy did. This was reply #1296 on Christmas Day. If you say that was sincere, then okay. When Mayte was spoken on by others, you said that she and Prince hadn’t spoken in years.(I had heard that Mayte herself stated this). For the more recent years/women, you said that only Andy’s picture is in the Galaxy Room.

Your words in reply #1551 earlier today, for number 7. "Last, but not least, there is only one photo of a woman in the Galaxy Room at Paisley Park, which Prince used for meditation. That is Andy Allo. Not one of his ex-wives. Not Denise. Not Sheila. Not Susannah. Andy.”

With the emphasis on the words One and Andy, and saying “not one of his ex-wives...” and then listing the other women...I took that as again, you dismissing the other ladies as less than Andy.

When Judith was brought up or Lala,(this part was weeks ago) and a poster would ask, “what about this person or that person?” I don’t remember you speaking to their names specifically, but you referred to the later women in Prince’s life after Andy as “dalliances”, as in “Whatever dalliances Prince may have had…” I took that to mean whomever he was linked to romantically after Andy, you saw these relationships as not as serious and deep and profound as what he had with Andy and their love in comparison. Overall, this is what I saw communicated, and what I meant by when I said that you dismiss these women as “nothing compared to Andy." If you felt slighted by that, I don’t know what else to tell you. I don’t have the motivation or energy to go back through 50+ pages to find other exact quotes, but they are all still there for anyone else who is interested. Since you said that you did not mean to dismiss these other ladies in comparison to Andy, then okay. But I am not making this all up and I am not a liar...Again we know that Prince and Andy shared a great love, but there are still questions. So….. which is it? Prince was begging Andy back and she wouldn’t take him back…or Andy wanted to come back but wanted the ring, and he wasn’t ready because of his past failed marriages?…but then they were going to be married for sure in the future? This is what you implied.…and another question, what about him not shutting down all the women so that Andy could trust him again? Why didn’t he do that? Seems like an easy thing to do for the woman you want to marry... Andy was the total package, but It didn't happen…and we will never know for sure…As I said I like Andy and she’s talented and insightful,and was meaningful in Prince’s life, but does it take 50 and 60 and 70 pages in a thread to hash this all out? It looks like it does…and will It’s just a lot…a whole lot...Anyways, I will be lurking to my very heart's content, best be sure!

FlyOnTheWall said:

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SayItsJustADream, all I have done is state my findings. I can't take responsibility for how that makes you or others feel. Also, with regard to other associates, proteges, or friends Prince might have been intimate with during his last five years--and "might" is the operative word--I have tried very hard to avoid that line of discussion. After all, this thread is about Prince and Andy's collaborations. Certain commenters, however, just keep inserting a couple of names into the discussion with "What about so-and-so?" questions.

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After awhile, I felt that I needed to address the questions as directly and succinctly as possible. I gave honest answers: I have not seen any evidence that points to Prince having any serious romantic involvements, other than with Andy, in his last five years. I did use the word "dalliances," for lack of a better word; however, I think it is less unflattering than the term Prince used in his last known song, "Stay Cool," which is "candy girl." BTW: I believe this song was also inspired by Andy. He wrote:

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Don’t worry what’s happenin wit the candy girl
U’re the only one that matters in my world
Alright?….Alright?
Alright

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Additionally, you wrote: "[W]e know that Prince and Andy shared a great love, but there are still questions." On this point, we are in total agreement. There are many questions, and I don't have all the answers. That's why I'm trying to fit the pieces of the proverbial puzzle together.

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I think it is safe to assume P and AA's "great love" explains why her picture alone is on permanent display at Paisley Park in Prince's Meditation Room. That is a fact, in no way meant to be "dismissive." It just is what it is. I only mentioned the other names whose pictures are not there because the person to whom I was responding had mentioned certain people. Same thing with the rings P put on Andy's finger. Again, if folks don't want to hear the unvarnished truth, they shouldn't ask the question(s).

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In conclusion, I won't take the time to respond to everything you find problematic about me and my writings. That would take far too much time and space. And, based on your snarky remark about the number of pages on this thread, you already find that very problematic. Let me just say that this thread would not be nearly as long if I didn't have to keep repeating the same points over and over to commenters who either don't read the entire thread, and just jump to the later pages, or they have read my findings, but they just don't like them.

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P. S. It is never my intent to be "sarcastic" or mean-spirited with respondents; however, my tone tends to match that of the person to whom I'm responding. In case you haven't noticed, the org is a tough crowd, so sometimes I have to stand my ground. But, it's all in love. &

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FlyOnTheWall, I like the metaphor of "trying to fit the pieces of the proverbial puzzle together." Regarding "trying to fit the pieces of the proverbial puzzle together," at this time, there are a lot of puzzles about Prince's life that are unfinished. While much of that proverbial puzzle regarding the collaboration and personal relationship between Prince and Andy Allo will remain unfinished or will have missing pieces, I think that the same can be said for so many aspects of his life--why he died, how he was feeling during his last days, how long he had been using the painkillers, why didn't he have a will, what's in the vault, why his marriages ended, and so forth. These "puzzles" take time to complete. And we, Prince fans, may never have all of the pieces to finish the various puzzles.

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Looking back at what happened after Michael Jackson died, it took a couple of years before the public learned about what lead to his death (because of the trial that took place). Sometimes, completing these "puzzles" takes time and patience. If and when Andy chooses to share more publicly, she may be able to fill in some the missing pieces.

Christopher Allo was live streaming a 2011 Budapest concert with Andy through Andy's FB page - what a treat to watch.

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Christopher Allo was live streaming a 2011 Budapest concert with Andy through Andy's FB page - what a treat to watch.

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I saw that!! I only caught the end, but I can't wait to watch the entire clip. It is smoking hot!! I plan to post it here tomorrow. Chris said that he might show another clip tomorrow. Andy is away on a retreat. I hope she's on some familiar island.

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FlyOnTheWall said:

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Additionally, you wrote: "[W]e know that Prince and Andy shared a great love, but there are still questions." On this point, we are in total agreement. There are many questions, and I don't have all the answers. That's why I'm trying to fit the pieces of the proverbial puzzle together.

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I think it is safe to assume P and AA's "great love" explains why her picture alone is on permanent display at Paisley Park in Prince's Meditation Room. That is a fact, in no way meant to be "dismissive." It just is what it is. I only mentioned the other names whose pictures are not there because the person to whom I was responding had mentioned certain people. Same thing with the rings P put on Andy's finger. Again, if folks don't want to hear the unvarnished truth, they shouldn't ask the question(s).

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In conclusion, I won't take the time to respond to everything you find problematic about me and my writings. That would take far too much time and space. And, based on your snarky remark about the number of pages on this thread, you already find that very problematic. Let me just say that this thread would not be nearly as long if I didn't have to keep repeating the same points over and over to commenters who either don't read the entire thread, and just jump to the later pages, or they have read my findings, but they just don't like them.

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P. S. It is never my intent to be "sarcastic" or mean-spirited with respondents; however, my tone tends to match that of the person to whom I'm responding. In case you haven't noticed, the org is a tough crowd, so sometimes I have to stand my ground. But, it's all in love. &

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FlyOnTheWall, I like the metaphor of "trying to fit the pieces of the proverbial puzzle together." Regarding "trying to fit the pieces of the proverbial puzzle together," at this time, there are a lot of puzzles about Prince's life that are unfinished. While much of that proverbial puzzle regarding the collaboration and personal relationship between Prince and Andy Allo will remain unfinished or will have missing pieces, I think that the same can be said for so many aspects of his life--why he died, how he was feeling during his last days, how long he had been using the painkillers, why didn't he have a will, what's in the vault, why his marriages ended, and so forth. These "puzzles" take time to complete. And we, Prince fans, may never have all of the pieces to finish the various puzzles.

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Looking back at what happened after Michael Jackson died, it took a couple of years before the public learned about what lead to his death (because of the trial that took place). Sometimes, completing these "puzzles" takes time and patience. If and when Andy chooses to share more publicly, she may be able to fill in some the missing pieces.

I agree 100%, 206Michelle. Thanks for your input.

Nice Interview...she talks about How it was that she got to meet and Work with Prince..

No mention of that day she was pulled up onto the Stage...

Wonder if that might have been" STAGED " LOL

https://www.youtube.com/w...NooXye2stY

LOADs of NEW Andy Allo Videos appearing on Youtube...and Andy and Prince..

Noticing in the comments that People dont seem to like her.

I DO and I can see that she is basically "in Training" especially 2011 and 2012..then she seems to make a gigantic Leap and improves in all ways.Her voice was shaky in the beginning...Understandable..she was so young...

To where she is NOW...BOY She really got schooled ..Prince incubated a LOT of Talent..WOW...

Andy Covering This is what it feels like from AOA...

DOnt know if im allowed to post the link...but Im gonna anyway..

Mods can sort me out if need be..

https://www.youtube.com/w...OTk37ijHPY

SBartist said:

Lovejunky said:

Andy Covering This is what it feels like from AOA...

DOnt know if im allowed to post the link...but Im gonna anyway..

Mods can sort me out if need be..

https://www.youtube.com/w...OTk37ijHPY

Thanks, Love! This is actually one of her duets with Prince that is included on AOA. Andy says that she co-wrote the song. The refrain "this is what it feels like" is used in "When Stars Collide," from her Superconductor album.

Lovejunky said:

Nice Interview...she talks about How it was that she got to meet and Work with Prince..

No mention of that day she was pulled up onto the Stage...

Wonder if that might have been" STAGED " LOL

https://www.youtube.com/w...NooXye2stY

I love this interview! Thanks, Love! I posted it in the very early pages of this thread, but now is a good time for another listen. BTW: She probably doesn't mention the dance at the Forum because she didn't actually meet him until later that night. It might have been staged, but I don't think so. One commenter, pinkcashmere23, said that she read/saw an interview where someone asked Andy what were the first words Prince said to her and she responded, "Are you married?" I'm going to have to try to track down that interview.

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Lovejunky said:

LOADs of NEW Andy Allo Videos appearing on Youtube...and Andy and Prince..

Noticing in the comments that People dont seem to like her.

I DO and I can see that she is basically "in Training" especially 2011 and 2012..then she seems to make a gigantic Leap and improves in all ways.Her voice was shaky in the beginning...Understandable..she was so young...

To where she is NOW...BOY She really got schooled ..Prince incubated a LOT of Talent..WOW...

Prince was a master teacher and he was so very generous with his time. And, Andy has come a LONG way from her early days with P and the NPG. For instance, she had never even played the electric guitar before Prince put one in her hands and told her that she would have to play it if she was going to tour with him and the NPG. And, she had only been playing the acoustic guitar for four years. She was still a novice. Can you imagine having the courage it took for this 21-year-old young lady to step onto the world stage with Prince, the guitar GOD, and play in his band!! She describes the 2-3 months of practice before performing live, on the biggest of stages, as "boot camp."

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Initially, Prince fans were impatient and felt that she didn't belong on stage with P, but he couldn't have cared less what these fans thought. Indeed, he gave zero fu#*ks!! He saw something in Andy, other than her stunningly good looks, and he had made the decision to invest in her. I like to say that he "poured himself into her." The rest is now history.

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SBartist said:

Christopher Allo was live streaming a 2011 Budapest concert with Andy through Andy's FB page - what a treat to watch.

I saw that!! I only caught the end, but I can't wait to watch the entire clip. It is smoking hot!! I plan to post it here tomorrow. Chris said that he might show another clip tomorrow. Andy is away on a retreat. I hope she's on some familiar island.

As promised, here is that clip that Christopher Allo posted on Andy's FB from the Sziget Fesztivál Budapest, August 9, 2011. Enjoy!! Happy New Year!!

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UPDATE: THAT VIDEO IS NO LONGER AVAILABLE. Dang it!! I never got to watch the whole thing. I'm not surprised, though, as the clip was over an hour long!!

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Happy Purple New Year, Beloveds!!!!! #PurpleRain

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FlyOnTheWall said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

I saw that!! I only caught the end, but I can't wait to watch the entire clip. It is smoking hot!! I plan to post it here tomorrow. Chris said that he might show another clip tomorrow. Andy is away on a retreat. I hope she's on some familiar island.

As promised, here is that clip that Christopher Allo posted on Andy's FB from the Sziget Fesztivál Budapest, August 9, 2011. Enjoy!! Happy New Year!!

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UPDATE: THAT VIDEO IS NO LONGER AVAILABLE. Dang it!! I never got to watch the whole thing. I'm not surprised, though, as the clip was over an hour long!!

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I missed that post by her brother, but I was at that show and I remember that the whole show was up on youtube. Have no idea if it's still there these days or not and if it is the same clip her brother posted.

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SayItsJustADream said:

That was not a mischaracterization or falsehood in my eyes. Clarification was indeed needed on the last great love. When Susannah or Shelia E. were brought up in regards to the rings, you asked the poster to post any photos of “associates” with engagement rings,(with the word associates in quotes, as to downplay them in comparison,(which was the impression I got) and then said “We’ll wait.” I took that as a sarcastic response, and dismissive towards them, in that they didn’t have rings but Andy did. This was reply #1296 on Christmas Day. If you say that was sincere, then okay. When Mayte was spoken on by others, you said that she and Prince hadn’t spoken in years.(I had heard that Mayte herself stated this). For the more recent years/women, you said that only Andy’s picture is in the Galaxy Room.

Your words in reply #1551 earlier today, for number 7. "Last, but not least, there is only one photo of a woman in the Galaxy Room at Paisley Park, which Prince used for meditation. That is Andy Allo. Not one of his ex-wives. Not Denise. Not Sheila. Not Susannah. Andy.”

With the emphasis on the words One and Andy, and saying “not one of his ex-wives...” and then listing the other women...I took that as again, you dismissing the other ladies as less than Andy.

When Judith was brought up or Lala,(this part was weeks ago) and a poster would ask, “what about this person or that person?” I don’t remember you speaking to their names specifically, but you referred to the later women in Prince’s life after Andy as “dalliances”, as in “Whatever dalliances Prince may have had…” I took that to mean whomever he was linked to romantically after Andy, you saw these relationships as not as serious and deep and profound as what he had with Andy and their love in comparison. Overall, this is what I saw communicated, and what I meant by when I said that you dismiss these women as “nothing compared to Andy." If you felt slighted by that, I don’t know what else to tell you. I don’t have the motivation or energy to go back through 50+ pages to find other exact quotes, but they are all still there for anyone else who is interested. Since you said that you did not mean to dismiss these other ladies in comparison to Andy, then okay. But I am not making this all up and I am not a liar...Again we know that Prince and Andy shared a great love, but there are still questions. So….. which is it? Prince was begging Andy back and she wouldn’t take him back…or Andy wanted to come back but wanted the ring, and he wasn’t ready because of his past failed marriages?…but then they were going to be married for sure in the future? This is what you implied.…and another question, what about him not shutting down all the women so that Andy could trust him again? Why didn’t he do that? Seems like an easy thing to do for the woman you want to marry... Andy was the total package, but It didn't happen…and we will never know for sure…As I said I like Andy and she’s talented and insightful,and was meaningful in Prince’s life, but does it take 50 and 60 and 70 pages in a thread to hash this all out? It looks like it does…and will It’s just a lot…a whole lot...Anyways, I will be lurking to my very heart's content, best be sure!

FlyOnTheWall said:

Being that this is an independent and unofficial fan community site...what is the harm in this thread? If somone wants to spend their time researching AA and Prince why shouldnt' they? Can take what we need and leave the rest. Live and let live. Would rather read about this than Vanity was his soulmate BS...he loved her best, etc and there is certainly no proof of that. AA will likely have to provide the "proof" of their romance and how far it went for those that are looking for it which may never come and remain a mystery. I don't see others doing much research to counter....only ask questions that at this point are difficult to impossible to answer. Peace and Happy New Year.

joytotheworld said:

Being that this is an independent and unofficial fan community site...what is the harm in this thread? If somone wants to spend their time researching AA and Prince why shouldnt' they? Can take what we need and leave the rest. Live and let live. Would rather read about this than Vanity was his soulmate BS...he loved her best, etc and there is certainly no proof of that. AA will likely have to provide the "proof" of their romance and how far it went for those that are looking for it which may never come and remain a mystery. I don't see others doing much research to counter....only ask questions that at this point are difficult to impossible to answer. Peace and Happy New Year.

Thanks, joy!! Happy New Year!!

FlyOnTheWall said:

joytotheworld said:

Being that this is an independent and unofficial fan community site...what is the harm in this thread? If somone wants to spend their time researching AA and Prince why shouldnt' they? Can take what we need and leave the rest. Live and let live. Would rather read about this than Vanity was his soulmate BS...he loved her best, etc and there is certainly no proof of that. AA will likely have to provide the "proof" of their romance and how far it went for those that are looking for it which may never come and remain a mystery. I don't see others doing much research to counter....only ask questions that at this point are difficult to impossible to answer. Peace and Happy New Year.

Thanks, joy!! Happy New Year!!

Happy New Year to all. I have to agree with Joy. Members who are tired of this thread have a choice of several new and existing threads to chose from. Whether we like it or not Prince's life and body of work are going to be analysed and dissected by journalists, musicians, and scholars. Some of his featured artistes, associates and proteges are going to be considered more significant than others. Whatever opinions and arguments are offered or made on this thread are not relevant to such analysis. However, information that is curated and stored on this thread will be relevant to researchers as they gather information for such analysis. So in the spirit of peaceful co-existence that Prince embodied, I humbly ask that the unfounded allegations of a protege stanning for herself or paying for someone to stan for her should cease. We all care about our reputations, there is absolutely no need to tarnish the reputations of others without any factual information. I wish all members and their families a year that is peaceful, healthy, prosperous and truly blessed. Have a great week!

bibrose said:

However, information that is curated and stored on this thread will be relevant to researchers as they gather information for such analysis. So in the spirit of peaceful co-existence that Prince embodied, I humbly ask that the unfounded allegations of a protege stanning for herself or paying for someone to stan for her should cease. We all care about our reputations, there is absolutely no need to tarnish the reputations of others without any factual information. I wish all members and their families a year that is peaceful, healthy, prosperous and truly blessed. Have a great week!

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