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Printable If this isn't a career-killer for him, then I don't know.....I think he has lost all credibility in Europe now.....
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Double !!!
No, I'm not done with him, but I sure hope he reflects on this one... and makes that tour the damn best tour ever!!! | |
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I am a life long fan of Prince and take the opportunity to watch my idol at every given opportunity. I am obviosuly very disapointed that the concert has been cancelled, I will still go to Dublin and enjoy myself so hope to see some of you there!!!
Its the risk you take to see your hero, and with every ticket you buy for a concert from any artist that thought that it could be cancelled is always at the back of your mind. I do unfortunately could see this coming, but had started to get excited do the proximity of the date. I ceratinly won`t be booking any event by the same promoters as I feel blame lies with them. Until next time.... Kate x | |
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SquirrelMeat said: EmulPedmon said: Yeah, the first night of ONA in London we had problems with the tickets and seating. Those of us who had queued since the morning got in to find we had numbered seats at the back, people who turned up at doors opening were at the front. It was meant to be GA for the NPGMC (hence the all day queuing). Some of us stood our ground and security (Hammersmith Apollo security) kept saying that if we didn't sit in our assigned seats they'd be no concert (OK dude). Some guy had the brass ones to to go up one of the dudes on stage and asked him to go get Prince, who promptly came out, listened to what we were saying and got it sorted out for us. He then spent some time just talking to us about different things. This was well before he came out to do the soundcheck. He wasn't even made up or anything yet. Well I was there and that was not what happened. We all ASSUMED it was free allocation seating. The venue told us otherwise. We all got our tickets numbers and no one would have been "at the back" as the soundcheck audience only filled the front 8 rows. I like many others who had queued that day no longer saw the need to rush like animals to the front as we all had seat numbers. So we hung back in the foyer, taking a pee, drink etc. Then, when the doors opened the crazed fams bum rushed the front and refused to move to their allocated seats, like a bunch of petulant children. Prince spoke to the managers because he had a few suprises lined up for some fans who were deliberately allocated the front middle seats. He couldn't carry out the suprise because the fams hogging the front refused to move. The manager and Prince decided for safety that the suprises would be dropped and that they would have to keep everyone where they were or cancel the soundcheck. So many people missed out on some extras because of some fams inhability to follow simple rules. thats interesting. how do you know he had surprises? Im not doubting just asking. Ive used that phrase petulant children in here too, seems to be rather alot amongst prince fans. walk with crooked shoes www.myspace/syblepurplelishous | |
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geo4you said: Double
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No, I'm not done with him, but I sure hope he reflects on this one... and makes that tour the damn best tour ever!!! it's not a tour.....he hasn't been on tour outside the USA since 2002! Vegas, London....those weren't tours either! I doubt he'll ever go on tour again. | |
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I see your points...But,
21 gigs in a MAJOR city (Tons of great Promo) plus the money from the aftershows...21 days of selling merchandise.. and not having to travel around or hire people to move the whole setup night after night works out Waaaaay better than One Gig in Ireland... It probably cost a million dollars just to ship all the crew/stage/gear ect to europe and back ! cloudguitar said: roughly though 50000 tickets sold, say an average of 100 euros=so 500000 euros
The exchange rate is about $1.75 to 1 Euro That's $8750000. Say Prince makes about 10% He's still going to make about a million dollars... that's not including merchandise sales rough figures i know, but i doubt Prince would be saying 'why should i do that when i can get $4m for a gig in the states?' why do 21 gigs in London at a really cheap ticket price? CosmicDancer said: Im not so sure that he would have sued...
I dont think that was the case in Denmark... My feeling is.. Honestly... Do you see the size of Princes show...? Arena shows.. The Symbol stage..the lights..the Movie screens... The cost of bringing the whole band and crew and gear to Europe and Putting everyone up in hotels ect... How could ONE gig make that worth Prince's while when he's doing 4 million dollar gigs at festivals in the United States...? and private parties for rich folks for a couple million dollars..? It doesn't add up to me.. [Edited 6/11/08 4:52am] | |
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abierman said: geo4you said: Double
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No, I'm not done with him, but I sure hope he reflects on this one... and makes that tour the damn best tour ever!!! it's not a tour.....he hasn't been on tour outside the USA since 2002! Vegas, London....those weren't tours either! I doubt he'll ever go on tour again. That's what I am thinking as well !! I AM LOOKING FOR USED PRINCE CONCERT TICKETS ... https://www.facebook.com/...erttickets | |
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riverjones said: kenlacam said: To all of you die-hard Hardcore fans who think Prince can do no wrong, if this isn't a wake-up call for you about what an ass he can be, then nothing will wake you up.
I agree. The past few hours have been terrible as the news finally sinks in. I received 30 text messages with people offering commiserations but it appears people don't trust him and perceive him as a freak. I think the 1995 show when unreleased material was mostly played still resonates with many. I was sooooo pissed off I called MCD to pick a fight, they advised they received fax this morning from P's mgt advising of cancellation. I advised them they had a crap legal framework in place if he could opt out just like that. Clearly they were hiding something and there is more to the story. As I said in earlier posting, there were people on the org who knew and emailed me advising the cancellation would be announced on Monday or Tuesday of this week while we were all soaking up Wolfie's CRAP. Wheteher Prince had / had not planned to partake in the show is irrelevant, surely a quick update through Dr. Funkenberry ( or what ever the f*** he's name is ) would have sufficed, you cannot dis-associate yourself through silence in the same way as the O2 VIP tix fiasco last year. It is simple appaling and not surprising. Great quote from someone on org today that said they love the music and dislike the individual, that is how I feel. I realise he is an insincere low life scum bag and understand why there were no 50th celebrations last week, you need friends and family and he has NEITHER. Seriosly can you name one person in past 4 years who said he was a nice person ( not a great musician ), the closest was jay leno in 2004 saying 'nice to c u buddy' Laugh Out Loud. Next time I choose to attend a show I will but ticket for BIG $$$ on the day from a tout, happy to pay the premium to him and get best seat on the day. In relation to purchasing records in the future, my 5 buddies and I are going to chip in 2 euro each, buy one CD and then copy it 6 times. from now on these are the rules I work toward. lack of respect can work both ways. Go F*** yourself Prince and enjoy your next in house gig with P Diddy and P. Cruz MUTHA F***** Wow I know the news it upsetting but your language and attitude sucks man. It ain't P's fault - really it isn't Turnitup post's on HQ explains things much better than I ever could but really even if it was that is no way to speak about or to anyone. Prince insprires great passion in all of us because of his incredible music - as for the man himself I cannot make any real judgement cos I don't know him but to say that he has no friends or family - thats just nasty. Your mother sure must be proud of you. | |
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Oh my gosh....some of the posts on here are laughable....i've read the first page and thats as far as i'm going.
It's just a concert, some of you are going on like you just lost your family in a freak accident????? Granted some sort of statement and apology should be made but boy.....there's alotta hate out there....scary!!!!! Ps....What's to say Prince isn't peed off with this himself???? How do i stop myself from being just a number....how will i hold my head to keep from going under?
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mfcuker said: Im sure a lot of you have read this , but 4 u that hav not ,
explains a lot and very well wrote , stilll gutted thou http://www.housequake.com...did=103159  volatile !!! since when has P been volatile?? news to me | |
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swanny said: Well I completed a nice little hat trick today.
SOTT 1987 - Wembley Stadium cancelled Blenheim 1991 - cancelled Croke Park 2008 - cancelled. Not really the kind of hat trick I was looking for. Yeah, me too! I actually saw it on the front of a paper in an newsagents on O'Connell St on my way to the airport after seeing KISS in Berlin...thank God THEY didn't cancel! I think Prince is becoming as reliable for these big gigs as Ozzy Osbourne used to be...that's from my experience! You're always thinking if you should even bother buying the ticket in the 1st place coz chances are they'll cancel anyway...by the way, where's Wolfy?!   | |
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damn said: daibhi said: Irish Times article places the blame with Prince, see below:
"PRINCE HAS cancelled his Croke Park show next Monday without an explanation for his fans or concert promoters MCD. Prince's management informed MCD of the decision in the early hours of yesterday. Although rumours had been circulating for days that the notoriously volatile star, who turned 50 this week, was about to cancel, MCD believed the concert was still on as late as Monday afternoon. Though officially MCD are stating that the cancellation was due to circumstances "beyond the control" of either themselves or Prince, it is understood the decision was down to Prince himself. MCD is said to be furious with Prince's decision, especially given that the scheduled date is just five days away and the promoter is likely to lose thousands of euro as a result of the cancellation. MCD said more than 55,000 tickets were sold for the event, which had a capacity of 62,000. The firm said rumours of poor ticket sales were well off the mark. "The stage was being built, everything was in place for it. The concert was on course to be sold out. It has nothing to do with money or contracts. The guy's just being a superstar. He just didn't want to do it," said one industry source. MCD will hope to recover the booking deposit from Prince without having to go to litigation, which could take years. Prince has a reputation for regularly cancelling shows. His only other European shows on the tour, in Paris and Milan, were cancelled several months ago. Uniquely among major artists, he does not have an official website to offer an explanation to fans. Long-suffering fans were scathing about his decision on various websites. "People went out of their way for Prince, and we have pretty much been treated like s**t . . . how rude of him and his people." Another wrote: "I'm fed up defending you (Prince). You don't care about anyone but yourself. Just do us a favour and retire," while a third wrote: "There's no way Prince can let down 80,000 fans (sic), but my God, he did." The cancellation will seriously inconvenience UK fans who were due to travel for the only show in Britain or Ireland that the artist was scheduled to do this year. Ticket holders, who paid between €66.50 and €125.50, excluding handling fees, can obtain a full refund including booking fee from their Ticketmaster point of purchase from 9am on Friday. It is not the first time that MCD has been let down by a volatile star. Eminem cancelled his concert at Slane in 2005 citing "exhaustion", and MCD, which claimed losses of €2.1 million from that cancellation, had to make an out of court settlement with three insurance companies as a result. Croke Park stadium director Peter McKenna said they were as mystified about the cancellation as everybody else. "It is a temperamental business and artists and performers are probably the most temperamental," he said. "We're annoyed and disappointed. There is a huge amount of planning that has gone into that . . .There are knock-on effects all the way down and suppliers have to cancel orders and a lot of people who were due to work that night will now have to cancel." Holy shit, what I said about Prince made it into the paper, hahahahah Your mother must be so proud of you | |
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damn said: This is one of the worst days ever!!!
Oh don't be so melodramatic, your saying this is worse than natural disasters, wars, famine, terrorism etc etc Pathetic! | |
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You know I am sure Prince did not get up on Monday and think 'lets piss some fans off today.' I am sure he is as sad not to be coming to Ireland as much as we are that we are not going to get to see him. Anyway I know that the next time he sets up a show I will be on the phone booking tickets don't matter what he has done. | |
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These posts are getting scarier and scarier. Y'all make it sound like he cancelled an entire tour. IT WAS JUST 1 CONCERT. I feel your pain but to say he's done and finished in Europe over 1 show and it wasn't a show for Queen Elizabeth or some other big show? Come on! It's time to come back to reality. As stated above, there are links to housequake.com that list the reasons why this show didn't go on and Prince is NOT the bad guy in this, though no matter what's said, you will convict him and throw him in jail any which way. Prince will NEVER win with anyone around here. I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that | |
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purplecam said: These posts are getting scarier and scarier. Y'all make it sound like he cancelled an entire tour. IT WAS JUST 1 CONCERT. I feel your pain but to say he's done and finished in Europe over 1 show and it wasn't a show for Queen Elizabeth or some other big show? Come on! It's time to come back to reality. As stated above, there are links to housequake.com that list the reasons why this show didn't go on and Prince is NOT the bad guy in this, though no matter what's said, you will convict him and throw him in jail any which way. Prince will NEVER win with anyone around here.
Uh oh - mentioning Queen Elizabeth and Ireland in the same context. DUCK !!! 
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Let this be a lesson to all people.
NEVER BUY TIKCETS UNLESS ITS OFFICIAL CONFIRMED BY THE PRINCE MANAGEMENT. And we all know, all you people who are now complaining, are going to be the first ones to buy the Photobook in september. Write your REVIEW and SETLIST in the forum : http://princeinbelgium.tk/ | |
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Gav said: purplecam said: These posts are getting scarier and scarier. Y'all make it sound like he cancelled an entire tour. IT WAS JUST 1 CONCERT. I feel your pain but to say he's done and finished in Europe over 1 show and it wasn't a show for Queen Elizabeth or some other big show? Come on! It's time to come back to reality. As stated above, there are links to housequake.com that list the reasons why this show didn't go on and Prince is NOT the bad guy in this, though no matter what's said, you will convict him and throw him in jail any which way. Prince will NEVER win with anyone around here.
Uh oh - mentioning Queen Elizabeth and Ireland in the same context. DUCK !!!
. [Edited 6/11/08 8:08am] Oh shoot I forgot how polar opposite those 2 are.  Forgive me, [Edited 6/11/08 8:12am] I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that | |
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Purpel said: Let this be a lesson to all people.
NEVER BUY TIKCETS UNLESS ITS OFFICIAL CONFIRMED BY THE PRINCE MANAGEMENT. And we all know, all you people who are now complaining, are going to be the first ones to buy the Photobook in september. You know that's going to happen, without question. I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that | |
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Someone started a thread headed Lets all go to LA stalk him outside his house. I thought that was so funny. What if he came out and said Can I play my guitar for yall, and everyone said nooooo fuck off. | |
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LittleNicci said: damn said: Holy shit, what I said about Prince made it into the paper, hahahahah Your mother must be so proud of you ----- "Prince has a reputation for regularly cancelling shows. His only other European shows on the tour, in Paris and Milan, were cancelled several months ago. " Gezz, all of the sudden P is the new Sly Stone. What crap he has a rep for being very professional I doubt he wallked away from millions of dollars for no reason at all. | |
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laurarichardson said: LittleNicci said: Your mother must be so proud of you ----- "Prince has a reputation for regularly cancelling shows. His only other European shows on the tour, in Paris and Milan, were cancelled several months ago. " Gezz, all of the sudden P is the new Sly Stone. What crap he has a rep for being very professional I doubt he wallked away from millions of dollars for no reason at all. I am sure he walked away because he wanted more millions of dollars  | |
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there are worse things that could happen.
i will buy tickets to see him again, just now i won,t get hopes up about actually seeing him until he is there on stage in front of me. it would be nice to have some official statment from the man himself. it is such a pity that his official website is gone. we are now left with not knowing who to believe about anything. i for one took it at face value that there would be a concert. i won't be so naive again. there were constant rumours about the cancellation and i choose not to believe them as i did not know who to believe. obviously people knew all along that something was not right. if this is so, then the people should not have been selling tickets & promoting an event that was doubtful. | |
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Purpel said: Let this be a lesson to all people.
NEVER BUY TIKCETS UNLESS ITS OFFICIAL CONFIRMED BY THE PRINCE MANAGEMENT. But Prince has no management, he manages himself, he dispises managers as he has often pointed out. There is no clear coimmunication from Paisley Park so its no surprise people make up their own conclusions. The only loser is Prince. | |
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Purpel said: Let this be a lesson to all people.
NEVER BUY TIKCETS UNLESS ITS OFFICIAL CONFIRMED BY THE PRINCE MANAGEMENT. I don't think this is very fair. The tickets were available from official ticket outlets for several months, there was no word from anybody official that the concert was not going to be on, so most people would assume that it was happening. Remember most of the people who bought tickets won't be on boards like this and will see a concert advertised on the ticketmaster site and assume that buying tickets from them is a safe bet. The presence of those seeking the truth is infinitely to be preferred to the presence of those who think they've found it | |
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cream72 said: go here for a little more info on the cancellation and it had nothing to do with ticket sales or prince wanting to piss his fans of on purpose http://www.housequake.com...did=103159
This is based on sources for Housequake and turnitup's opinion This post on Housequake explains things a little more clearly. This is the first proper piece of information on the whole subject. | |
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Like many I've taken time of work, booked flights and hotels and paid a fortune for tickets. To say the least I'm gutted. Was lucky enough to get to 12 of the 21 gigs at the O2 and was over the moon that I'd get to see him again so soon. I've been a fan for 25 years and can remember how I felt when the "sign of the times" gig was cancelled in '87 at Wembley. The feeling is close to that this time. In general, I don't think we've had it that bad recently from Prince, a free album and 21 concerts over a two month period last year. What other superstar can you say that about? Whatever the reason for cancelling, lets hope it get sorted and resheduled soon.
KatzMccaff said: Really sorry everyone but just found this statement -
http://www.crokepark.ie/p...a_id=23773 Please post your thoughts, opinions, perspectives, updates, criticisms, grievances, existential angst, or any other comments (within reason) on this thread. Please understand that starting any new threads about the cancellation of the Croke Park concert will most likely result in that thread being locked and redirected to this thread. Respectfully, Anx | |
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sj1600 said: cream72 said: go here for a little more info on the cancellation and it had nothing to do with ticket sales or prince wanting to piss his fans of on purpose http://www.housequake.com...did=103159
This is based on sources for Housequake and turnitup's opinion This post on Housequake explains things a little more clearly. This is the first proper piece of information on the whole subject. Ihave read through the post and makes no sense to me. so Price was planning 5 shows in Europe over the Summer, two separate promoters were looking for the sames date and he requested the tour be cancelled. all jokes aside, there are 365 days in the year, could they not have moved one date around
I understand Prince may have been bound not to speak but there were plenty of work-a-round opportunities, example - mention on Jay Leno that Coachella was his only concert this year, have one of the band 'let it slip publicly' ot setup webiste with concerts section and under that section state 'no concerts scheduled at this point' - all of these sufficient to get the point across. I know MCD are no angels but if you go on their website there are several shows by many acts in their books including Lenny K, Neil Diamond etc - so they are no flash in the pan and realistically are out of pocket. I personally doubtthey would hand over 1 million to croke park without written assurances from Prince Also if you read through the HQ thread it mentions Prince has a very busy schedule in coming days & as he is in the entertainment business we are bound to get an insight, unless it is another one of those 3 million dollar birthday bashes. it would make sense to disapoint 55,000 Irish fans instead. | |
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purplecorvette1 said: Someone started a thread headed Lets all go to LA stalk him outside his house. I thought that was so funny. What if he came out and said Can I play my guitar for yall, and everyone said nooooo fuck off.
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