paintedlady said:

heybaby said:

I don't see anything wrong with anything thing she wore . the black dress was kinda tight fitted and I agree inappropriate for a professional setting but not for the club either

I do... the turtle neck for example. It looks nice, fitted... but add the wrong bra that has her nipples poking through the fabric then it becomes wrong for the work place. IF she wore a bra at all.

The trousers... fitted as well, but if she's twitching hard as she walks by, then its a distraction and over the top. A mean walk can be a distraction also, never mind adding to that fitted clothing that amplifies a gorgeous figure.

I believe the problem probrably has more to do with her attitude and how her slamming body wears in those office clothes that may make someone stare a bit too long.

I am guessing of course, but she did say that this happens at ALL her places of employment which leads me to think its more her than her employer IMHO.

Heck, they can't ALL be wrong.

I had nipple problems w/ AC in the summer. I have big tits too, and fat or thin, you have to wear the right under garmets to keep the girls under control. I know you feel me.

Oh, and I am not hating (not posed to you, just others that might think I'm dogging Ms. Sexy)... I was lucky enough to work at a store that had mirrors every where, when I saw my own nipples poking through shirts, bra sillouettes. This caused me to tone down my own over all look. I bet if she worked in a room full of mirrors she would see what others see and understand what to do, and what NOT to wear.

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I get what your saying but I still can't see it. And as far as her attitude or mean walk or what ever has more to do with other peoples issues-not hers I just think its a bit much. And I'm not saying anyone is hating on this woman-but it happens and men do stare but how far does a person have to go to make others feel at ease? go beyond what is requested of others? I don't think so. If it is what she says it is it all just seems a bit too much...I agree with JustErin.

paintedlady said:

Oh, and I am not hating (not posed to you, just others that might think I'm dogging Ms. Sexy)...

I wouldn't mind dogging Ms. Sexy...

An opinion piece from the NY Times:

By MAUREEN DOWD

“Sometimes, honestly, I wish I didn’t look the way I did,” Lorenzana says

She's a damn lie

Let's look at it from a different angle.

If a guy wore ballet pants, with his huge bulge on display, would anyone have a problem with it as long as they had pinstripes?

NDRU said:

Let's look at it from a different angle.

If a guy wore ballet pants, with his huge bulge on display, would anyone have a problem with it as long as they had pinstripes?

If he is adhering to the dresscode, what is the issue?

If not, well...

Why is she acting like she's the only "pretty" woman the WHOLE ENTIRE huge ass company of Citibank, has EVER hired...

heybaby said:

“Sometimes, honestly, I wish I didn’t look the way I did,” Lorenzana says

She's a damn lie

I can relate to her. That's exactly how I often feel too.

JustErin said:

NDRU said:

Let's look at it from a different angle.

If a guy wore ballet pants, with his huge bulge on display, would anyone have a problem with it as long as they had pinstripes?

If he is adhering to the dresscode, what is the issue?

If not, well...

What about a painted on suit? Or a bithday suit?

I'm sure there is something in dress codes about tight or "provocative" clothing. It might look professional to some, but I work with plenty of curvy women that are not displaying it like this chick--and again I would not have a problem with it, but I'm just saying I can see citibank's point, especially if her behavior is an issue, too.

Well damn, she has a nice body, but she is not all of that "Beautiful", she's actually kind of average. And folks are wondering why she gets no sympathy. She made statements like that when the story first dropped. I personally think she's a bit hystrionic.

Hell, and people are mean to obese too. The first thing people would have said if she was obese that "she should look in the mirror before she leaves her home". Look how many people kick sand at Aretha Franklin all of the time because of the way she dresses. So I disagree with that "If she was obese people would feel sorry for her" statement.

Again, most of the outfits shown in that clip are fine for work in my opinion...however that black fitted dress was not professional at all. Also...notice how she is posing in those pics. And who's to say that's even what she wore, those pics did not look exactly "spontaneous", perhaps she took them because she knew that she would be having an upcoming lawsuit. Who takes that many pictures of THEMSELVES at work?

Reel said:

NDRU said:

Let's look at it from a different angle.

If a guy wore ballet pants, with his huge bulge on display, would anyone have a problem with it as long as they had pinstripes?

Hello!

I said something similar last night!!!!

chocolate1 said:

NDRU said:

Let's look at it from a different angle.

If a guy wore ballet pants, with his huge bulge on display, would anyone have a problem with it as long as they had pinstripes?

Hello!

I said something similar last night!!!!

I always knew you were brilliant

JustErin said:

heybaby said:

I don't see anything wrong with anything thing she wore . the black dress was kinda tight fitted and I agree inappropriate for a professional setting but not for the club either

Like I said, go to any bank or office around the city and you'll see women dressed like this - of all shapes and sizes.

When I was in a more professional setting I dressed like this. It’s my style, it’s how I dress and it’s definitely professional.

And there it is...

Just because you'd wear it, does not make it "definitely professional". It's simply that you think it's okay to wear.

tinaz said:

Why is she acting like she's the only "pretty" woman the WHOLE ENTIRE huge ass company of Citibank, has EVER hired...

I don't get that from her at all. She simply talking about her experiences.

heybaby said:

“Sometimes, honestly, I wish I didn’t look the way I did,” Lorenzana says

She's a damn lie

heybaby said:

“Sometimes, honestly, I wish I didn’t look the way I did,” Lorenzana says

She's a damn lie

I'm sorry but all her credibility flies out the window with that one. Shit, I love being pretty, and if I was finer, I'd love it more.

I really think that its her problem since she tends to have this particular problem at all her work places. If she wants to keep working in those types of enviornments then she needs to change her attitude and/or her attire to fit the bill.

NDRU said:

JustErin said:

If he is adhering to the dresscode, what is the issue?

If not, well...

What about a painted on suit? Or a bithday suit?

I'm sure there is something in dress codes about tight or "provocative" clothing. It might look professional to some, but I work with plenty of curvy women that are not displaying it like this chick--and again I would not have a problem with it, but I'm just saying I can see citibank's point, especially if her behavior is an issue, too.

She was not wearing tight or provocative clothing though.

chocolate1 said:

JustErin said:

Like I said, go to any bank or office around the city and you'll see women dressed like this - of all shapes and sizes.

When I was in a more professional setting I dressed like this. It’s my style, it’s how I dress and it’s definitely professional.

And there it is...

Just because you'd wear it, does not make it "definitely professional". It's simply that you think it's okay to wear.

No, it is professional wear and has been deemed so by my employers.

JustErin said:

NDRU said:

What about a painted on suit? Or a bithday suit?

I'm sure there is something in dress codes about tight or "provocative" clothing. It might look professional to some, but I work with plenty of curvy women that are not displaying it like this chick--and again I would not have a problem with it, but I'm just saying I can see citibank's point, especially if her behavior is an issue, too.

She was not wearing tight or provocative clothing though.

but you think pinstripe ballet pants are okay for guys to wear, so...

uPtoWnNY said:

paintedlady said:

Oh, and I am not hating (not posed to you, just others that might think I'm dogging Ms. Sexy)...

I wouldn't mind dogging Ms. Sexy...

JustErin said:

chocolate1 said:

And there it is...

Just because you'd wear it, does not make it "definitely professional". It's simply that you think it's okay to wear.

No, it is professional wear and has been deemed so by my employers.

Obivously not hers, otherwise she'd have a job.

paintedlady said:

JustErin said:

No, it is professional wear and has been deemed so by my employers.

Obivously not hers, otherwise she'd have a job.

And that's what the problem is. Others with different body types are wearing similar clothing, isn't that her claim?

JustErin said:

paintedlady said:

Obivously not hers, otherwise she'd have a job.

And that's what the problem is. Others with different body types are wearing similar clothing, isn't that her claim?

Her co-workers had enough issues that it caused a problem at ALL her previous jobs.

If it was one job I would see her POV. But every job she's had? Others may dress similar but not the same, otherwise it would be a class action suit against the company.

IMHO, fat women wearing those outfits would be seen as sluts and asked immediately to wear more proper attire. Women's plus sized professional clothing lines are not made to be fitted at all, most plus sized suiting is cut to look matronly. Bigger girls hide their ample breasts under scarfs and lager jewelry also.

She looks good because she is slender and curvy. Fat or thin, the more curves you have, the less people want to see them. (at the work place that is... unless its Hooters)

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I seemed to have missed her claim that it has happened at all her jobs....Can I see the quote?

paintedlady said:

JustErin said:

And that's what the problem is. Others with different body types are wearing similar clothing, isn't that her claim?

Her co-workers had enough issues that it caused a problem at ALL her previous jobs.

If it was one job I would see her POV. But every job she's had? Others may dress similar but not the same, otherwise it would be a class action suit against the company.

IMHO, fat women wearing those outfits would be seen as sluts and asked immediately to wear more proper attire. Women's plus sized professional clothing lines are not made to be fitted at all, most plus sized suiting is cut to look matronly. Bigger girls hide their ample breasts under scarfs and lager jewelry also.

She looks good because she is slender and curvy. Fat or thin, the more curves you have, the less people want to see them. (at the work place that is... unless its Hooters)

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That is absolutely not true at all.

JustErin said:

paintedlady said:

Her co-workers had enough issues that it caused a problem at ALL her previous jobs.

If it was one job I would see her POV. But every job she's had? Others may dress similar but not the same, otherwise it would be a class action suit against the company.

IMHO, fat women wearing those outfits would be seen as sluts and asked immediately to wear more proper attire. Women's plus sized professional clothing lines are not made to be fitted at all, most plus sized suiting is cut to look matronly. Bigger girls hide their ample breasts under scarfs and lager jewelry also.

She looks good because she is slender and curvy. Fat or thin, the more curves you have, the less people want to see them. (at the work place that is... unless its Hooters)

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That is absolutely not true at all.

Yes it is. Compared to the slimmer counter parts it is.

Color choices are usually toned down, prints are usually God awful and shirts are cut boxy.

I buy plus sized clothing all the time. Lane Brynat (for example) is getting better, but their cuts fall on the generous side even though the company tries hard to keep up on trend.

Women's plus sized lines tend to have that mom's jeans cut in the trousers too. High waisted for the most part.

paintedlady said:

JustErin said:

That is absolutely not true at all.

Yes it is. Compared to the slimmer counter parts it is.

Color choices are usually toned down, prints are usually God awful and shirts are cut boxy.

I buy plus sized clothing all the time. Lane Brynat (for example) is getting better, but their cuts fall on the generous side even though the company tries hard to keep up on trend.

Women's plus sized lines tend to have that mom's jeans cut in the trousers too. High waisted for the most part.

As someone who has shopped both plus and regular, I can tell you that this is not true.

Maybe in the states but absolutely not here.

JustErin said:

paintedlady said:

Yes it is. Compared to the slimmer counter parts it is.

Color choices are usually toned down, prints are usually God awful and shirts are cut boxy.

I buy plus sized clothing all the time. Lane Brynat (for example) is getting better, but their cuts fall on the generous side even though the company tries hard to keep up on trend.

Women's plus sized lines tend to have that mom's jeans cut in the trousers too. High waisted for the most part.

As someone who has shopped both plus and regular, I can tell you that this is not true.

Maybe in the states but absolutely not here.

I bought both also.... I miss being a regular size

Talbot's plus lines, Lane Bryant, Land's End, and LL Bean all have great clothing for the work place but their plus sizes lack options.

Ann Taylor and Banana Republic (etc.) don't even go into plus sizes... they only offerL- XL and those are not considered plus sized clothing so those sizes would look the same as a size XS-M.

The sizes I speak of are 16W- 32W... the clothing is just made different.

what happened to this thread?