nursev said:

Timmy84 said:

Cissy had alcohol problems.

Dionne flirted with cocaine and marijuana (she probably quit cocaine in the '80s but judging from her arrest in '04 or whatever she's still smoking weed now and then).

Dee Dee Warrick of "Foolish Girl" and "I'm Gonna Make You Love Me" fame had cocaine and heroin problems.

Of course Whitney and Bobby each had drug and alcohol problems.

Whitney's two brothers have had long plagued problems with cocaine addiction and two of Bobby's siblings also dealt with drug addiction (Tina and another sister).

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So yeah Krissy probably shouldn't get in.

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Damn so basically the whole family has been messed up on something Poor child couldn't escape it if she tried.

Pretty much.

mjscarousal said:

wavesofbliss said:

looks don't reflect how talented someone is. thats not what i said or meant. i meant that i hear most people(yes even today)comment on how ugly she is compared to her mom. and how shocked they were that she wasnt prettier bcos her mom was. not much comment on her abilities in terms of criticism.

that's all. and yes the industry is screwy and unfairly biased etc. but take someone like kelly p or fantasia who aren't gorgeous by any means but have voices that immediately catch an ear- even if they dont keep it. people/the industry seem to be more willing to "work with" ugly types so long as they have some striking talent- the impression i get is that kristina isn't pretty enough to sound so mediocre.

Very ignorant post... and Im going to explain why its ignorant...

Everyone who wants to sing does not want to be a POP star or win a bunch of grammies. What makes you think she wants to get that big? I think she has the singing ability to make it in this industry and I dont find her to be ugly either but thats beside the point..... The fact of the matter is your thinking very very very small and on the terms of how her mother was. You automatically assume she wants to be a big international star a POP star which primarily focuses on image or looks really dont need talent. Based on the videos she post it and the songs she sings... it seems she would be more interested in having more creative input in her music and exactly making art then just saling a image.

i don't think any of this and don't have a clue about her career aspirations. i am not thinking in a small way- i'm restating things ive heard others say in response to the interveiw that i haven't seen and prolly won't. i think the whole spectical is gross.

but commercial or not many people are shocked at how ugly she is,or rather that she's not as pretty as her mother. my comments about her voice are my opinion of her voice. likewise my comment about her being a better actress than her mom(i thought whitney was cardboard and awful in evrything but her first 2 films. but that might have been the drugtaking. idk). the visual aspect is something no one can get away from in the biz. i mean even the best actors and musicians get comments on the way the look. prince is super talented AND gorgeous, but not evryone is.

also, i think it is a timely discussion bcos most people hadn't seen the "young adult" kristina until the interview. most people seem to remember her as the adolescent she was during the reality show. they find it shocking that she didnt grow up to look more like her mom.

im not having a go at her!!!!! im still shocked that her mother is dead- and now there are interviews and pr shit.....its lunacy!!

finally, im somewhat surprised that her extended family has had so much trouble with substance abuse, but then these kinds of behavoirs tend to run in families. i dont know where people get off saying that whitney "prepared her well for this career...." if anything her mom prepared her to be another trainwreck in the family. and she's off to a good start with this interview so soon after the death and services. its beyond bad taste on the part of all parties involved. IMO

wavesofbliss said:

mjscarousal said:

Very ignorant post... and Im going to explain why its ignorant...

Everyone who wants to sing does not want to be a POP star or win a bunch of grammies. What makes you think she wants to get that big? I think she has the singing ability to make it in this industry and I dont find her to be ugly either but thats beside the point..... The fact of the matter is your thinking very very very small and on the terms of how her mother was. You automatically assume she wants to be a big international star a POP star which primarily focuses on image or looks really dont need talent. Based on the videos she post it and the songs she sings... it seems she would be more interested in having more creative input in her music and exactly making art then just saling a image.

i don't think any of this and don't have a clue about her career aspirations. i am not thinking in a small way- i'm restating things ive heard others say in response to the interveiw that i haven't seen and prolly won't. i think the whole spectical is gross.

but commercial or not many people are shocked at how ugly she is,or rather that she's not as pretty as her mother. my comments about her voice are my opinion of her voice. likewise my comment about her being a better actress than her mom(i thought whitney was cardboard and awful in evrything but her first 2 films. but that might have been the drugtaking. idk). the visual aspect is something no one can get away from in the biz. i mean even the best actors and musicians get comments on the way the look. prince is super talented AND gorgeous, but not evryone is.

also, i think it is a timely discussion bcos most people hadn't seen the "young adult" kristina until the interview. most people seem to remember her as the adolescent she was during the reality show. they find it shocking that she didnt grow up to look more like her mom.

im not having a go at her!!!!! im still shocked that her mother is dead- and now there are interviews and pr shit.....its lunacy!!

finally, im somewhat surprised that her extended family has had so much trouble with substance abuse, but then these kinds of behavoirs tend to run in families. i dont know where people get off saying that whitney "prepared her well for this career...." if anything her mom prepared her to be another trainwreck in the family. and she's off to a good start with this interview so soon after the death and services. its beyond bad taste on the part of all parties involved. IMO

You implied that looks caters to the entire industry and you cant be successful without it . If you look at an artist like Erykah Badu who is attractive and makes good music she isnt that popular but thats because she doesnt sell a supeficial image or makes fast food music. She is widely regarded for her looks AS WELL AS her MUSIC, songwriting, musiacianship live performances etc BUT most importantly HER MUSIC FIRST. I think looks are a replacement of something that is lacking especially in the mainstream world and especially if that is all that is being adverstised or emphasized. Thats huge difference from an artist like Rihanna or Beyonce who based most of their career and image off of marketing a sexy image.... do you honestly think they would get the same attention if they made music like Janelle Monae and DRESSED like her? They wouldnt even if they were unattractive. Todays industry is about Image, shaking ur ass, dressing naked, being sexy, acting like a hoe, etc not art... not necessarily looks per se... even though they care about that to

If u didnt mean for ur post to sound like that... thats understandable but thats how it came across...

Maybe not as attractive as Whitney but she isnt ugly.

Maybe none of Whitney's DNA is in her. Since it is well know Whitney liked females, perhaps there was a surrogate???? Of course I am just adding to conspiracy theories, but Khrissy looks zero like her Mom. Her forehead makes Rihanna, Diahann Carroll, Sade, Wendy Raquel Robinson (of The Game tv show) and even her mom look tame by comparison. Just saying... Not to be taken seriously (on the surrogate thing) - but based on how she looked a a little girl and how she looks as a 19 year old, she has come a long way. I think she needs better wigs though or an ourstanding weave job.

WaterInYourBath said:

wavesofbliss said:

so ok im just gonna say it. her talent wont be the cause of the criticism....... it will be her looks. how such a beauty had such an ugly child ill never know. her voice is fine,imo. room for improvement but she should be fine on that level. as for acting- hope shes better than her mom was. best of luck with it. but as i said she be compared to the beauty her mom was before she ver opens her mouth and .... well.... its not gonna be good. at least rhianna is a pretty girl who can sorta sing.

If she's gonna try show-business, I have a feeling she's going to make some physical/reconstructive changes in upcoming years to try to look more like Whitney. The appearance she inherited is ironic though: She has one of the most perfect-looking women in the world as her mother, but unfortunately looks just like her father, while none of her numerous half-siblings resemble him much at all. I mean, his sons look adopted. And yet this one little girl who should not look like Bobby Brown ends up being his clone.

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mjscarousal said:

You implied that looks caters to the entire industry and you cant be successful without it . If you look at an artist like Erykah Badu who is attractive and makes good music she isnt that popular but thats because she doesnt sell a supeficial image or makes fast food music. She is widely regarded for her looks AS WELL AS her MUSIC, songwriting, musiacianship live performances etc BUT most importantly HER MUSIC FIRST.

I think looks are a replacement of something that is lacking especially in the mainstream world and especially if that is all that is being adverstised or emphasized. Thats huge difference from an artist like Rihanna or Beyonce who based most of their career and image off of marketing a sexy image.... do you honestly think they would get the same attention if they made music like Janelle Monae and DRESSED like her? They wouldnt even if they were unattractive. Todays industry is about Image, shaking ur ass, dressing naked, being sexy, acting like a hoe, etc not art... not necessarily looks per se... even though they care about that to

If u didnt mean for ur post to sound like that... thats understandable but thats how it came across...

Maybe not as attractive as Whitney but she isnt ugly.

it seems like you have a bone to pick with the industry about the way women are marketed. that is understandable and you're not the only one. but none of this is relevant to what i was saying about kristina. i hear what your saying but my comments werent really about that-they were about the fact that people are stunned by her looks-and yes plenty of people think she's ugly!! you don't- fair enough. but loads of people do having seen her in that interview.

to ambassador- thats not very nice. it seems pretty clear that she gets the shape of her face frm her mom but her color and features from her dad.

mjscarousal said:

You implied that looks caters to the entire industry and you cant be successful without it . If you look at an artist like Erykah Badu who is attractive and makes good music she isnt that popular but thats because she doesnt sell a supeficial image or makes fast food music. She is widely regarded for her looks AS WELL AS her MUSIC, songwriting, musiacianship live performances etc BUT most importantly HER MUSIC FIRST.

I think looks are a replacement of something that is lacking especially in the mainstream world and especially if that is all that is being adverstised or emphasized. Thats huge difference from an artist like Rihanna or Beyonce who based most of their career and image off of marketing a sexy image.... do you honestly think they would get the same attention if they made music like Janelle Monae and DRESSED like her? They wouldnt even if they were unattractive. Todays industry is about Image, shaking ur ass, dressing naked, being sexy, acting like a hoe, etc not art... not necessarily looks per se... even though they care about that to

If u didnt mean for ur post to sound like that... thats understandable but thats how it came across...

Maybe not as attractive as Whitney but she isnt ugly.

it seems like you have a bone to pick with the industry about the way women are marketed. that is understandable and you're not the only one. but none of this is relevant to what i was saying about kristina. i hear what your saying but my comments werent really about that-they were about the fact that people are stunned by her looks-and yes plenty of people think she's ugly!! you don't- fair enough. but loads of people do having seen her in that interview.

to ambassador- thats not very nice. it seems pretty clear that she gets the shape of her face frm her mom but her color and features from her dad.

RnBAmbassador said:

Maybe none of Whitney's DNA is in her. Since it is well know Whitney like females, perhaps there was surrogate???? Of course I am just adding to conspiracy theories, but Khrissy looks zero like her Mom. Her forehead makes Rihanna, Diahann Carroll, Sade and even her mom look tame by comparison.

WaterInYourBath said:

If she's gonna try show-business, I have a feeling she's going to make some physical/reconstructive changes in upcoming years to try to look more like Whitney. The appearance she inherited is ironic though: She has one of the most perfect-looking women in the world as her mother, but unfortunately looks just like her father, while none of her numerous half-siblings resemble him much at all. I mean, his sons look adopted. And yet this one little girl who should not look like Bobby Brown ends up being his clone.

Actually, when you compare the two, Kristina has Whitney's eyes. It's really obvious when you look at photos of them standing next to each other. That's about it though. Even her height is unlike Whitney's, as she's very short for some reason. But watch her start wearing 6-inch heels, curl her hair, get a good Halle Berry nose job, and have her gap closed with other dental work. I predict an entire transformation for some reason, especially with her soon becoming "Kristina Houston."

RnBAmbassador said:

Maybe none of Whitney's DNA is in her. Since it is well know Whitney like females, perhaps there was surrogate???? Of course I am just adding to conspiracy theories, but Khrissy looks zero like her Mom. Her forehead makes Rihanna, Diahann Carroll, Sade and even her mom look tame by comparison.

WaterInYourBath said:

If she's gonna try show-business, I have a feeling she's going to make some physical/reconstructive changes in upcoming years to try to look more like Whitney. The appearance she inherited is ironic though: She has one of the most perfect-looking women in the world as her mother, but unfortunately looks just like her father, while none of her numerous half-siblings resemble him much at all. I mean, his sons look adopted. And yet this one little girl who should not look like Bobby Brown ends up being his clone.

Whitney doesn't look like her mother either. She looks like her cousin Dionne....

missfee said:

I believe that the domestic violence was on both ends, not just Bobby. As for Gary, what else was he supposed to say really? I think he gave an acceptable answer. No one really knows 100% of how Bobby and Whit's relationship was, only those two people know.

Somehow I get the feeling that Ray J. was in that room during that lost time. Remember they said there was all this food in there? Wasn't there enough for two people? That's all I'm going to say.

I think what happened is her body shut down - possibly from an accidental use of pills and drink. And it resulted in a heart attack. They said she didn't suffer no injuries when she died...

wavesofbliss said:

mjscarousal said:

You implied that looks caters to the entire industry and you cant be successful without it . If you look at an artist like Erykah Badu who is attractive and makes good music she isnt that popular but thats because she doesnt sell a supeficial image or makes fast food music. She is widely regarded for her looks AS WELL AS her MUSIC, songwriting, musiacianship live performances etc BUT most importantly HER MUSIC FIRST.

I think looks are a replacement of something that is lacking especially in the mainstream world and especially if that is all that is being adverstised or emphasized. Thats huge difference from an artist like Rihanna or Beyonce who based most of their career and image off of marketing a sexy image.... do you honestly think they would get the same attention if they made music like Janelle Monae and DRESSED like her? They wouldnt even if they were unattractive. Todays industry is about Image, shaking ur ass, dressing naked, being sexy, acting like a hoe, etc not art... not necessarily looks per se... even though they care about that to

If u didnt mean for ur post to sound like that... thats understandable but thats how it came across...

Maybe not as attractive as Whitney but she isnt ugly.

it seems like you have a bone to pick with the industry about the way women are marketed. that is understandable and you're not the only one. but none of this is relevant to what i was saying about kristina. i hear what your saying but my comments werent really about that-they were about the fact that people are stunned by her looks-and yes plenty of people think she's ugly!! you don't- fair enough. but loads of people do having seen her in that interview.

to ambassador- thats not very nice. it seems pretty clear that she gets the shape of her face frm her mom but her color and features from her dad.

My issue was that you implied that she was not going to make it in a mainstream market if she wanted to be a singer because of her looks

How do you know if that is the market she wants to go? Maybe she wants to be a indie singer or maybe she likes singing on her own merit. She might not want to pursue it seriously.... I just thought your comments were overly judgemental and made just to take a stab at her appearance. Obviously she looks more like her father but I dont think she is unattractive or hideous looking. I dont see that affecting Lil Waynes sales, hits and records at all... Also, there are plenty of very attractive singers that are not mainstream or global....

Compared to a 19-year old Whitney of course she's not that attractive. Whitney was walking down the damn street and a modeling agent signed her on the spot. Whitney was the baddest bitch out there. She really was a rare beauty.

Her daughter has come a lonnggg way. Remember her from the reality show days? Girl was like a minnie Fat Albert. I still wouldn't call her pretty, but there's uglier people in the business.

And I won't support her just because of who her mom is, that's not me. If she comes out with that generic ass "euro-pop" sounding shit like Lady Gaga and Katy Perry, then she can keep it. I would like a cross between Beyonce's 4 and Adele's 21. An authentic R&B album with pop influences. And since she looks like her father, maybe she can dance like him. Lord knows Whitney had two left feet.

Timmy84 said:

I think what happened is her body shut down - possibly from an accidental use of pills and drink. And it resulted in a heart attack. They said she didn't suffer no injuries when she died...

Let's hope that is what the "tests" reveal....Even if that is the case I still can't get over the fact that she had a HUGE Ass crew of people that was working FOR her to get her ready and she was in that hotel room alone...

Where was everybody? Even her assistant was missing...And her sis-in-law Pat had her own personal assistant and she was missing as well...I dont get any of it...

I was reading an article online and NOW "The Body Guard" Movie Distributor/Studio want to CASH in before the other Studio gets to CASH in on "Sparkle" in August..

"The Body Guard" will be re-released to select theatres later this month...

Hollywood if so HUNGRY for a Damn Dollar its ridiculous...

Terrib3Towel said:

Compared to a 19-year old Whitney of course she's not that attractive. Whitney was walking down the damn street and a modeling agent signed her on the spot. Whitney was the baddest bitch out there. She really was a rare beauty.

Her daughter has come a lonnggg way. Remember her from the reality show days? Girl was like a minnie Fat Albert. I still wouldn't call her pretty, but there's uglier people in the business.

And I won't support her just because of who her mom is, that's not me. If she comes out with that generic ass "euro-pop" sounding shit like Lady Gaga and Katy Perry, then she can keep it. I would like a cross between Beyonce's 4 and Adele's 21. An authentic R&B album with pop influences. And since she looks like her father, maybe she can dance like him. Lord knows Whitney had two left feet.