Timmy84 said:

brooksie said:

Yes, they've all been quiet FOR NOW...call me cynical, but I don't think that will last. I hope it does for her sake, but it looks like this sitch has tons of crazy from all sides.

Who knows? I ain't gonna judge the Brown family until they do some shady shit.

^I think if the Browns were going to do something it would have been after the divorce, no reason to wait till shes dead to throw shade for coin.

Timmy84 said:

nursev said:

Im not trying to throw Bobby under the bus cuz he and NE are favs of mine, but something tells me that with all this money at stake and with Bobbi being so young that Bobby will be in the mix some kinda way and not in a good way

I can't see it...for some reason. But something bothers me about Whitney's in-laws (Pat and 'em).

Them too-folks smell money and will sell Whitney out to get it Besides Cissy and Robin I don't put shit past the rest of em. All I can say is Oprah ass is so wrong! Didn't she do the same with Joe and Katharine Jackson? I mean MJ's grave was still fresh and she pulled that shit-same with Whitney. Now I know why I stopped watching her ass years ago.

Timmy84 said:

brooksie said:

Frankly how does anyone know what the motives are in either case for the families? Oprah wants ratings, that's clear enough.

The fact is, BK's father is an addict and frankly the grandmother raised Whitney, so that's hardly a ringing endorsement for good judgement IMHO.

You know what's telling though? Bobby's kids haven't gotten in trouble with the po-pos or gotten into drug addiction like their father once did (Bobby himself hasn't been in trouble with the law since about 2005).

Yes, this is all very true. I suspect that much of it wrt his kids has to do w/ their mothers. I don't think any of them lived full time w/ Bobby/Whitney. While BK hasn't had law issues, she's already had far too many scandals (or near enough) for a girl of her age.

Methinks Bobby stopped having so many problems because he's been far less visible since his Whitney days AND that part of his problem WAS his relationship w/ her. Ironically Whitney never got busted during her time w/ him or even after (was she, I haven't followed her closely in years). Does mean that either of them were any less addicts.

Actually, now that I think about it the monday morning after Whitney's death Oprah gave Gayle King the Whitney interview for CBS news-I saw it and was like damn the cashing in was already starting two days after her death.

lazycrockett said:

Timmy84 said:

Who knows? I ain't gonna judge the Brown family until they do some shady shit.

^I think if the Browns were going to do something it would have been after the divorce, no reason to wait till shes dead to throw shade for coin.

After the divorce, Whitney and Bobby weren't of much interest to the press, IMHO. Part of the reason they got so much attention even then was because of their private drama rather than anything to do careers.

Now there's renewed interest in Whitney...hence this interview w/ her teenaged daughter. Depending on how this goes and how much interest the public ultimately show, the money's out there to be made. Will they...we shall see.

brooksie said:

Timmy84 said:

You know what's telling though? Bobby's kids haven't gotten in trouble with the po-pos or gotten into drug addiction like their father once did (Bobby himself hasn't been in trouble with the law since about 2005).

Yes, this is all very true. I suspect that much of it wrt his kids has to do w/ their mothers. I don't think any of them lived full time w/ Bobby/Whitney. While BK hasn't had law issues, she's already had far too many scandals (or near enough) for a girl of her age.

Methinks Bobby stopped having so many problems because he's been far less visible since his Whitney days AND that part of his problem WAS his relationship w/ her. Ironically Whitney never got busted during her time w/ him or even after (was she, I haven't followed her closely in years). Does mean that either of them were any less addicts.

Nah. But I think like many celebrities who get addicted, they knew how to use it and not where to use it. Never read about Marvin or Richard or 'em being arrested for drug possession and we know they were snorting that powder too.

brooksie said:

mjscarousal said:

I think she has people the same as Michaels children but the motive is different and that makes a different. She has her grandmother, she has her father etc. To me she exactly has alot more immediate family members than MJs kids... such as a father figure.

Either way... its very very sad. Oprah does not care she is just looking to make money.

Frankly how does anyone know what the motives are in either case for the families? Oprah wants ratings, that's clear enough.

The fact is, BK's father is an addict and frankly the grandmother raised Whitney, so that's hardly a ringing endorsement for good judgement IMHO.

If thrusting someones children in the spotlight after the parent has openly expressed they did not want their children to be in the spotlight does not show a hidden motive I dont know what does. The Jacksons knew very well what they were doing and they know showing his children would give them money. I cant speak on Bobbi Kristina and regardless her father is still alive and right now is there for her at a very essential period in her life. Jacksons children did not have any parents besides the gold digging grandparents and greedy family siblings. Thats right I said it

mjscarousal said:

brooksie said:

Frankly how does anyone know what the motives are in either case for the families? Oprah wants ratings, that's clear enough.

The fact is, BK's father is an addict and frankly the grandmother raised Whitney, so that's hardly a ringing endorsement for good judgement IMHO.

If thrusting someones children in the spotlight after the parent has openly expressed they did not want their children to be in the spotlight does not show a hidden motive I dont know what does. The Jacksons knew very well what they were doing and they know showing his children would give them money. I cant speak on Bobbi Kristina and regardless her father is still alive and right now is there for her at a very essential period in her life. Jacksons children did not have any parents besides the gold digging grandparents and greedy family siblings. Thats right I said it

Le sigh, I never should have mentioned.... OK you win....are you happy now?

Timmy84 said:

brooksie said:

Yes, this is all very true. I suspect that much of it wrt his kids has to do w/ their mothers. I don't think any of them lived full time w/ Bobby/Whitney. While BK hasn't had law issues, she's already had far too many scandals (or near enough) for a girl of her age.

Methinks Bobby stopped having so many problems because he's been far less visible since his Whitney days AND that part of his problem WAS his relationship w/ her. Ironically Whitney never got busted during her time w/ him or even after (was she, I haven't followed her closely in years). Does mean that either of them were any less addicts.

Nah. But I think like many celebrities who get addicted, they knew how to use it and not where to use it. Never read about Marvin or Richard or 'em being arrested for drug possession and we know they were snorting that powder too.

I was wondering which Richard (Simmons?! ) but I realized you meant Pryor. True, celebs actually rarely get busted.

I might get in trouble for this one, but I truthfully distrust Whiteny's people more than Bobby's. Don't ask me why, it's just a gut feeling. Bobby has always been blamed for Whitney's issues and that never washed w/ me.

I think everyone is forgetting is that Bobbi is now 19 and can say yes or no for herself.

lazycrockett said:

I think everyone is forgetting is that Bobbi is now 19 and can say yes or no for herself.

I wonder what she will do with her life now that her mother's no longer in this world...

brooksie said:

mjscarousal said:

If thrusting someones children in the spotlight after the parent has openly expressed they did not want their children to be in the spotlight does not show a hidden motive I dont know what does. The Jacksons knew very well what they were doing and they know showing his children would give them money. I cant speak on Bobbi Kristina and regardless her father is still alive and right now is there for her at a very essential period in her life. Jacksons children did not have any parents besides the gold digging grandparents and greedy family siblings. Thats right I said it

Le sigh, I never should have mentioned.... OK you win....are you happy now?

I always win I was just trying to get you to understand my point... no harm or file

lazycrockett said:

I think everyone is forgetting is that Bobbi is now 19 and can say yes or no for herself.

I didn't forget. She's gonna do what she's gonna do....and she's gotta live w/ it. At the end of the day all we can do is decide to tune in or not.

Timmy84 said:

lazycrockett said:

I think everyone is forgetting is that Bobbi is now 19 and can say yes or no for herself.

I wonder what she will do with her life now that her mother's no longer in this world...

From what Ive gathered, and im really not interested so I haven't looked much, she lives in Altanta in an apartment. I don't much care if she was seen smoking weed after Whits funeral personally I can see the need to relax. I think she will be okay if she stays away from the people that fed her a downer and a cocktail when she arrived in Beverlly Hills after her moms death though.

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lazycrockett said:

Timmy84 said:

I wonder what she will do with her life now that her mother's no longer in this world...

From what Ive gathered, and im really not interested so I haven't looked much, she lives in Altanta in an apartment. I don't much care if she was seen smoking weed after Whits funeral personally I can see the need to relax. I think she will be okay if she stays away from the people that fed her a downer and a cocktail when she arrived in Beverlly Hills after her moms death though.

[Edited 3/3/12 18:30pm]

Krissy's allegedly an alcoholic but I don't know how true that is.

Timmy84 said:

lazycrockett said:

I think everyone is forgetting is that Bobbi is now 19 and can say yes or no for herself.

I wonder what she will do with her life now that her mother's no longer in this world...

Hopefully something good. It'll depend on many factors tho, but money is the main one. Hopefully there's plenty there and it will be wisely managed.

Unless it can be proven Ms. Winfrey kidnapped or held Bobbie Kristina at gun point in order to get this interview uh, what's the big deal? Please step away from the ledge... good grief.

brooksie said:

Timmy84 said:

I wonder what she will do with her life now that her mother's no longer in this world...

Hopefully something good. It'll depend on many factors tho, but money is the main one. Hopefully there's plenty there and it will be wisely managed.

I personally think it'll be in her best interest to be a businesswoman. I wouldn't want her to follow in her mom's footsteps. I know she had wanted to be in show business and it's said her mama had cautioned her like Cissy had done her.

TD3 said:

Unless it can be proven Ms. Winfrey kidnapped or held Bobbie Kristina at gun point in order to get this interview uh, what's the big deal? Please step away from the ledge... good grief.

LOL. Are you referring to lemmings? Please tell me you're referring to lemmings.

purplethunder3121 said:

Oprah made bank on Whitney and she's trying to do the same with her daughter.

How did she make bank on Whitney?

brooksie said:

mjscarousal said:

The Jacksons were trying to cash in on Michaels children... I will NEVER understand why any of them would sit down with someone who implied their family member was a pedophile and was not fit to be a father.. NEVER and were AWARE of her comments on him

I said I questioned Oprah's judgement in these matters...after all, we're talking kids here. Whether the Jacksons were trying to cash in or not is rather besides the point for me, my point is that this girl seems to have even less protection than MJ's kids here and Oprah knows this; hence her moving in so quickly on an interview w/ her.

Whitney's only been dead a matter of weeks...let's not forget that.

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That's really presuming alot.

We have no way of knowing who initiated contact with whom.

lazycrockett said:

I think everyone is forgetting is that Bobbi is now 19 and can say yes or no for herself.

Agreed.

Ottensen said:

purplethunder3121 said:

Oprah made bank on Whitney and she's trying to do the same with her daughter.

How did she make bank on Whitney?

Right, I was wondering the same thing.

Oprah is funded most by sponsors who request to air commercials during her shows. So unless companies paid her triple-millions to be shown with Whitney Houston, except for a high amount of viewers, Oprah didn't earn any more than she usually did for any other episodes.

lazycrockett said:

I think everyone is forgetting is that Bobbi is now 19 and can say yes or no for herself.

Amen to that....Bobbi Kris was going to sit down with SOMEBODY and talk about her mother eventually...Oprah welcomed Bobbi kris to her show back in 2009...i'm sure they talked behind the scenes over the 2-day interview with Whitney...

Whitney told Oprah that SHE was the ONLY interviewer that she'd open up to and the LAST...Bobbi saw all of that and she trusts Oprah...Black Celebs don't have ANY reason to fear Oprah...

Should Bobbi Kris have sat down with Babs Walters?....Hell no...

Diane Sawyer...Hell No...

Dr. Phill...Hell No...

Whitney's sister-in-Law Pat help managed her Career and she was there when Oprah interviewed Whitney back in 2009....It was an EXCELLENT interview and Oprah let Whitney talk about what SHE wanted to talk about and when Whitney said she wasnt discussing certain things about Bobby Oprah moved on.......The Houston Family made the RIGHT choice by picking Oprah to interview Bobbi Kris...

Name me ONE, just ONE Fucking TV-Interviewer that has a better Reputation than The Mighty Oprah? What I Love most about Oprah is that she doesnt TRASH her own race of people...

So the Oprah "haters" don't have to watch the interview on March 11th but I sure will DVR the thang...

Chancellor said:

lazycrockett said:

I think everyone is forgetting is that Bobbi is now 19 and can say yes or no for herself.

Amen to that....Bobbi Kris was going to sit down with SOMEBODY and talk about her mother eventually...Oprah welcomed Bobbi kris to her show back in 2009...i'm sure they talked behind the scenes over the 2-day interview with Whitney...

Whitney told Oprah that SHE was the ONLY interviewer that she'd open up to and the LAST...Bobbi saw all of that and she trusts Oprah...Black Celebs don't have ANY reason to fear Oprah...

Should Bobbi Kris have sat down with Babs Walters?....Hell no...

Diane Sawyer...Hell No...

Dr. Phill...Hell No...

Whitney's sister-in-Law Pat help managed her Career and she was there when Oprah interviewed Whitney back in 2009....It was an EXCELLENT interview and Oprah let Whitney talk about what SHE wanted to talk about and when Whitney said she wasnt discussing certain things about Bobby Oprah moved on.......The Houston Family made the RIGHT choice by picking Oprah to interview Bobbi Kris...

Name me ONE, just ONE Fucking TV-Interviewer that has a better Reputation than The Mighty Oprah? What I Love most about Oprah is that she doesnt TRASH her own race of people...

So the Oprah "haters" don't have to watch the interview on March 11th but I sure will DVR the thang...

Damn bruh, when are you going to share some of that Kool-Aid? LOL

Musicslave said:

Chancellor said:

Amen to that....Bobbi Kris was going to sit down with SOMEBODY and talk about her mother eventually...Oprah welcomed Bobbi kris to her show back in 2009...i'm sure they talked behind the scenes over the 2-day interview with Whitney...

Whitney told Oprah that SHE was the ONLY interviewer that she'd open up to and the LAST...Bobbi saw all of that and she trusts Oprah...Black Celebs don't have ANY reason to fear Oprah...

Should Bobbi Kris have sat down with Babs Walters?....Hell no...

Diane Sawyer...Hell No...

Dr. Phill...Hell No...

Whitney's sister-in-Law Pat help managed her Career and she was there when Oprah interviewed Whitney back in 2009....It was an EXCELLENT interview and Oprah let Whitney talk about what SHE wanted to talk about and when Whitney said she wasnt discussing certain things about Bobby Oprah moved on.......The Houston Family made the RIGHT choice by picking Oprah to interview Bobbi Kris...

Name me ONE, just ONE Fucking TV-Interviewer that has a better Reputation than The Mighty Oprah? What I Love most about Oprah is that she doesnt TRASH her own race of people...

So the Oprah "haters" don't have to watch the interview on March 11th but I sure will DVR the thang...

Damn bruh, when are you going to share some of that Kool-Aid? LOL

Why does he have to be drinking Kool-Aid just because he doesn't agree that Oprah's on some diabolical mission to hijack Bobbi Christina and use her for her own evil plans?

Some of these comments kill me , partcularly about the content of these tv interviews- because it's clear folks have no idea how tele-journalism works. The questions & topics the interviewer is allowed to touch upon are determined before the celebrity even hits the chair, so it's not about painting a celebrity one way or another. You get to see another facet of their personality, by way of them answering questions related to topics they and their managerial/legal teams/personal advisory circle have already agreed upon with the interviewer.

In all fairness, has anyone here ever heard any celebrity on God's green earth ever say that Oprah has double-crossed them, used them for ratings, or the like? I sure haven't. But what I have heard are people making all sorts of baseless accusations projecting their own muck onto these celebrities. It might not be popular for me to say that, but I think that it is at least quasi-rational and fair to all involved in these interviews. At the end of the day, it's a choice on behalf of those sitting in the interview seat. They can always say no if they were asked, or Harpo (which, if you know anything about production, there are other people actually responsible for coming up with show ideas besides Winfrey herself)---Harpo can always choose to decline a guest or topic. They can say yes, they can say no. That's what free will means.

WaterInYourBath said:

TD3 said:

Unless it can be proven Ms. Winfrey kidnapped or held Bobbie Kristina at gun point in order to get this interview uh, what's the big deal? Please step away from the ledge... good grief.

LOL. Are you referring to lemmings? Please tell me you're referring to lemmings.

Nah. Its just some of the commnets and opinions are over the top. (imho)

The interview Ms. Winfrey did with Ms. Houston couldn't and wouldn't cover the interest Winfrey makes on her billion dollar fortune daily. That interview would have been a piss in the ocean moneterily. Since we all are going to be cycnical about motivates here, Ms. Houston interview with Winfrey was just as self-serving. Houston was attempting a comeback, pushing an album, and attempting to clean up an image. She was going to have to grant someone an interview, as Chancellor mentioned. Seriously if not with Winfrey than with whom, Wendy Williams or Diane Sawyer?

Who knows why Bobbie Kristina has granted an interview or what she wants to talk about. If you feel that strongly about Ms. Winfrey and/or some of Ms. Houston's relatives trying to cash in, don't watch. Low ratings problems solved.....

Of course if you don't watch than you can't bitch about what you just watched.

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[Edited 3/4/12 10:11am]

lazycrockett said:

I think everyone is forgetting is that Bobbi is now 19 and can say yes or no for herself.

19 is still young to have to deal with situations like these matters. My son will be 19 in May and he is very smart-accepted to college and everything and I am proud of him, but at least twice a month he may ask questions about life issues such as money matters, how to do everyday things such a return electronics to walmart My point is that even though 19 is grown the mind of a 19 year old is caught in that fragile area between being a teenager and being an adult. I can only imagine what a 19 year old thinks when having to bury a superstar mother and then deal with the aftermath.

TD3 said:

Unless it can be proven Ms. Winfrey kidnapped or held Bobbie Kristina at gun point in order to get this interview uh, what's the big deal? Please step away from the ledge... good grief.

I hope ur not referring to me I'm cool and no where near a ledge

Ottensen said:

Musicslave said:

Damn bruh, when are you going to share some of that Kool-Aid? LOL

Why does he have to be drinking Kool-Aid just because he doesn't agree that Oprah's on some diabolical mission to hijack Bobbi Christina and use her for her own evil plans?

Some of these comments kill me , partcularly about the content of these tv interviews- because it's clear folks have no idea how tele-journalism works. The questions & topics the interviewer is allowed to touch upon are determined before the celebrity even hits the chair, so it's not about painting a celebrity one way or another. You get to see another facet of their personality, by way of them answering questions related to topics they and their managerial/legal teams/personal advisory circle have already agreed upon with the interviewer.

In all fairness, has anyone here ever heard any celebrity on God's green earth ever say that Oprah has double-crossed them, used them for ratings, or the like? I sure haven't. But what I have heard are people making all sorts of baseless accusations projecting their own muck onto these celebrities. It might not be popular for me to say that, but I think that it is at least quasi-rational and fair to all involved in these interviews. At the end of the day, it's a choice on behalf of those sitting in the interview seat. They can always say no if they were asked, or Harpo (which, if you know anything about production, there are other people actually responsible for coming up with show ideas besides Winfrey herself)---Harpo can always choose to decline a guest or topic. They can say yes, they can say no. That's what free will means.

Wow, you got all of that from my sentence? My comments were based on the person's adamant defense and praise of Ms. Winfrey. That's all. I'm not naive enough to think that in spite of all of her success and goodwill, that Oprah wouldn't see the benefits of having the first exclusive interview with the person every media outlet has been clamoring after since her moms death. She is a businesswoman. That's not hate, that's reality.

As far as the interview is concerned, she's an adult. Young but an adult nonetheless. It's her decision. It will be about one month since her mother passing. I'm not sure I'd be ready to talk about such a great lost so soon. But that's me, not Bobbi Kris. More power to her.

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