Marion Patricia Garland Houston has the most to gain. She gets 20% management commission of anything, and she gets an executor of the estate salary too (double dipping), and her brother Ray Watson was Whitney's bodyguard. Hmmmmmmmmmmm.
Pat was the owner of the scented candle business that Whitney Houston was to do the infomercial for.
Timmy84 said:
lazycrockett said:
^But remember she was mixing pills and drinking so it doesn't take alot.
True. I don't know. I just know I don't trust Pat's memory of events. How could you think that Whitney's behavior wasn't drug/alcohol induced? Whitney had been seen drinking in the nightclub. In fact they said Whitney was a notorious drunk. Pat Houston being her manager and all could've helped Whitney but she let her be embarrassed like that in front of the media. Now that she's dead, she wants to act as if she was her savior or something. If you're a close confidant of your client, you don't calmly walk after hearing screams and panicking over what happened to your client. Pat just seems shady to me.
I don't think anyone will be surprised by those numbers. I'm actually surprised that her network has done so poorly but I that's another topic....
A fucking press conference? First of all who the fuck cares enough to hear what you gotta say that warrants a press conference. I was expecting to hear that he tweeted something crazy last night after that Pam lady called their relationship out... I'm sure he was tempted.
Some folks said if Ray don't say anything, Brandy or Sonja would. I haven't read they said anything yet but they obviously had to be watching... if it plays out, the Houstons and Norwoods could be at odds if they do begin to air out their beef in public if there is one brewing. Ray J. will forever get the side eye especially after this press conference...
That would be a real punkass move on his part, to have his mommy and sister speaking for him. This douche wants to be famous soooo bad. At best, he'll probably end up infamous for some shit.
Some folks said if Ray don't say anything, Brandy or Sonja would. I haven't read they said anything yet but they obviously had to be watching... if it plays out, the Houstons and Norwoods could be at odds if they do begin to air out their beef in public if there is one brewing. Ray J. will forever get the side eye especially after this press conference...
That would be a real punkass move on his part, to have his mommy and sister speaking for him. This douche wants to be famous soooo bad. At best, he'll probably end up infamous for some shit.
Unless that Kim tape did it already but this would definitely make him notorious for the wrong reasons if toxicology reports come back that Whitney died of an accidental overdose of pills and alcohol.
Marion Patricia Garland Houston has the most to gain. She gets 20% management commission of anything, and she gets an executor of the estate salary too (double dipping), and her brother Ray Watson was Whitney's bodyguard. Hmmmmmmmmmmm.
Pat was the owner of the scented candle business that Whitney Houston was to do the infomercial for.
Timmy84 said:
True. I don't know. I just know I don't trust Pat's memory of events. How could you think that Whitney's behavior wasn't drug/alcohol induced? Whitney had been seen drinking in the nightclub. In fact they said Whitney was a notorious drunk. Pat Houston being her manager and all could've helped Whitney but she let her be embarrassed like that in front of the media. Now that she's dead, she wants to act as if she was her savior or something. If you're a close confidant of your client, you don't calmly walk after hearing screams and panicking over what happened to your client. Pat just seems shady to me.
I find it interesting that Pat's entire name is "Garland Houston". Cissy had Gary with an abusive man named Freddie Garland and after she divorced him (due to domestic abuse), John Houston adopted him as his own son. If John hadn't done that, Pat's name would've been Pat Garland instead of Pat Houston. Michael Houston is the only other biological sibling of Whitney's.
^But remember she was mixing pills and drinking so it doesn't take alot.
True. I don't know. I just know I don't trust Pat's memory of events. How could you think that Whitney's behavior wasn't drug/alcohol induced? Whitney had been seen drinking in the nightclub. In fact they said Whitney was a notorious drunk. Pat Houston being her manager and all could've helped Whitney but she let her be embarrassed like that in front of the media. Now that she's dead, she wants to act as if she was her savior or something. If you're a close confidant of your client, you don't calmly walk after hearing screams and panicking over what happened to your client. Pat just seems shady to me.
Well, Kelly Price said she wasn't bad. I never heard anything about Kelly being crazy or routinely out of line with her commentary so I believe that. I don't buy the whole sloppy drunk story because in none of those pics did Whitney look sloppy to me. Comin out that club with that music still blasting, if she is feelin good then yeah she's gonna be dancin and singing outside too - especially with fans around joining in. Of course the paps only post the pics with her mouth gaping wide or her eyelids mid-blink, looking wonky.
True. I don't know. I just know I don't trust Pat's memory of events. How could you think that Whitney's behavior wasn't drug/alcohol induced? Whitney had been seen drinking in the nightclub. In fact they said Whitney was a notorious drunk. Pat Houston being her manager and all could've helped Whitney but she let her be embarrassed like that in front of the media. Now that she's dead, she wants to act as if she was her savior or something. If you're a close confidant of your client, you don't calmly walk after hearing screams and panicking over what happened to your client. Pat just seems shady to me.
Well, Kelly Price said she wasn't bad. I never heard anything about Kelly being crazy or routinely out of line with her commentary so I believe that. I don't buy the whole sloppy drunk story because in none of those pics did Whitney look sloppy to me. Comin out that club with that music still blasting, if she is feelin good then yeah she's gonna be dancin and singing outside too - especially with fans around joining in. Of course the paps only post the pics with her mouth gaping wide or her eyelids mid-blink, looking wonky.
The paps ain't slick, they knew what they were doing. It's possible she was just disturbed that night and was pissed. Ain't no telling really. But still I guess when you're a recovering addict, going to a party is not a good option. Obviously it's clear Whitney was grown but her help wasn't helping her either.
Have you guys already discussed Bobbi Kris' singing yet....I'm probably late but....
Do you see a future for her in the music industry or should she focus on acting lessons?
I think she can do both. She seems to have a good personality & charisma. If they can make Rhianna into a pop star they can make the daughter of The Voice into one. I'm pretty sure she inherited her dads dancing ability to. So she seems to have the whole package. Just don't let Clive guide her. Maybe Jimmy Lovine can sign her & groom her.
will ALWAYS think of like a "ACT OF GOD"! N another realm. mean of all people who might of been aliens or angels.if found out that wasn't of this earth, would not have been that surprised. R.I.P.
I am amazed The Houston family was able to get through that interview. The shock of Whitney's death is still with them...It's interesting how Whitney prepared Bobbi Kris for so many things...I didnt know that Bobbi Kris lived with her Uncle & Aunt for 2yrs....That is FAMILY....So she's gonna be alright....Whitney could've left this world a long time ago but it happened when her daughter was 18 and developing into a young woman...They were closer than ever and Bobbi Kris has a strong foundation...
As far Whitney's death.....Man oh man oh man...Talk about a CLOUD lingering....Bobbi Kris was down the hall in the other suite with the photo shoot crew, Pat & Garry was in another suite getting things together...Whitney's driver was somewhere...Whitney's assistant was somewhere...But Whitney was all alone in that room...What in the world happened in that room?
Then Pat told Oprah she didn't know how Whitney got to the tub-naked...Then she was found facing down in the tub of water....
Hopefully the toxicology report will be released by the end of this month...We gotta know what was in her system that could have caused her death or perhaps her death was by natural causes....
We won't be able to stop thinking about Whitney until we know what happened to her...
I am amazed The Houston family was able to get through that interview. The shock of Whitney's death is still with them...It's interesting how Whitney prepared Bobbi Kris for so many things...I didnt know that Bobbi Kris lived with her Uncle & Aunt for 2yrs....That is FAMILY....So she's gonna be alright....Whitney could've left this world a long time ago but it happened when her daughter was 18 and developing into a young woman...They were closer than ever and Bobbi Kris has a strong foundation...
As far Whitney's death.....Man oh man oh man...Talk about a CLOUD lingering....Bobbi Kris was down the hall in the other suite with the photo shoot crew, Pat & Garry was in another suite getting things together...Whitney's driver was somewhere...Whitney's assistant was somewhere...But Whitney was all alone in that room...What in the world happened in that room?
Then Pat told Oprah she didn't know how Whitney got to the tub-naked...Then she was found facing down in the tub of water....
Hopefully the toxicology report will be released by the end of this month...We gotta know what was in her system that could have caused her death or perhaps her death was by natural causes....
We won't be able to stop thinking about Whitney until we know what happened to her...
I read the report could come back as late as the 23rd of this month.
Have you guys already discussed Bobbi Kris' singing yet....I'm probably late but....
Do you see a future for her in the music industry or should she focus on acting lessons?
I think she can do both. She seems to have a good personality & charisma. If they can make Rhianna into a pop star they can make the daughter of The Voice into one. I'm pretty sure she inherited her dads dancing ability to. So she seems to have the whole package. Just don't let Clive guide her. Maybe Jimmy Lovine can sign her & groom her.
so ok im just gonna say it. her talent wont be the cause of the criticism....... it will be her looks. how such a beauty had such an ugly child ill never know. her voice is fine,imo. room for improvement but she should be fine on that level. as for acting- hope shes better than her mom was. best of luck with it. but as i said she be compared to the beauty her mom was before she ver opens her mouth and .... well.... its not gonna be good. at least rhianna is a pretty girl who can sorta sing.
I think she can do both. She seems to have a good personality & charisma. If they can make Rhianna into a pop star they can make the daughter of The Voice into one. I'm pretty sure she inherited her dads dancing ability to. So she seems to have the whole package. Just don't let Clive guide her. Maybe Jimmy Lovine can sign her & groom her.
so ok im just gonna say it. her talent wont be the cause of the criticism....... it will be her looks. how such a beauty had such an ugly child ill never know. her voice is fine,imo. room for improvement but she should be fine on that level. as for acting- hope shes better than her mom was. best of luck with it. but as i said she be compared to the beauty her mom was before she ver opens her mouth and .... well.... its not gonna be good. at least rhianna is a pretty girl who can sorta sing.
Since when does looks reflect how talented or how good a song is?
This is the bases of talent today?
So sad....
This is why the music industry is so screwed up now
so ok im just gonna say it. her talent wont be the cause of the criticism....... it will be her looks. how such a beauty had such an ugly child ill never know. her voice is fine,imo. room for improvement but she should be fine on that level. as for acting- hope shes better than her mom was. best of luck with it. but as i said she be compared to the beauty her mom was before she ver opens her mouth and .... well.... its not gonna be good. at least rhianna is a pretty girl who can sorta sing.
Since when does looks reflect how talented or how good a song is?
This is the bases of talent today?
So sad....
This is why the music industry is so screwed up now
looks don't reflect how talented someone is. thats not what i said or meant. i meant that i hear most people(yes even today)comment on how ugly she is compared to her mom. and how shocked they were that she wasnt prettier bcos her mom was. not much comment on her abilities in terms of criticism.
that's all. and yes the industry is screwy and unfairly biased etc. but take someone like kelly p or fantasia who aren't gorgeous by any means but have voices that immediately catch an ear- even if they dont keep it. people/the industry seem to be more willing to "work with" ugly types so long as they have some striking talent- the impression i get is that kristina isn't pretty enough to sound so mediocre.
Since when does looks reflect how talented or how good a song is?
This is the bases of talent today?
So sad....
This is why the music industry is so screwed up now
looks don't reflect how talented someone is. thats not what i said or meant. i meant that i hear most people(yes even today)comment on how ugly she is compared to her mom. and how shocked they were that she wasnt prettier bcos her mom was. not much comment on her abilities in terms of criticism.
that's all. and yes the industry is screwy and unfairly biased etc. but take someone like kelly p or fantasia who aren't gorgeous by any means but have voices that immediately catch an ear- even if they dont keep it. people/the industry seem to be more willing to "work with" ugly types so long as they have some striking talent- the impression i get is that kristina isn't pretty enough to sound so mediocre.
Was this REALLY necessary to say in THIS thread RIGHT NOW ???
looks don't reflect how talented someone is. thats not what i said or meant. i meant that i hear most people(yes even today)comment on how ugly she is compared to her mom. and how shocked they were that she wasnt prettier bcos her mom was. not much comment on her abilities in terms of criticism.
that's all. and yes the industry is screwy and unfairly biased etc. but take someone like kelly p or fantasia who aren't gorgeous by any means but have voices that immediately catch an ear- even if they dont keep it. people/the industry seem to be more willing to "work with" ugly types so long as they have some striking talent- the impression i get is that kristina isn't pretty enough to sound so mediocre.
Was this REALLY necessary to say in THIS thread RIGHT NOW ???
will ALWAYS think of like a "ACT OF GOD"! N another realm. mean of all people who might of been aliens or angels.if found out that wasn't of this earth, would not have been that surprised. R.I.P.
Was this REALLY necessary to say in THIS thread RIGHT NOW ???
OH PLEASEEEE.... no it isnt... what would be the reason for it? Just because Whitney was a pop star doesnt mean if her daughter decides she wants to make music means she wants to be mainstream.... You people kill me with thinking everyone wants to be mainstream.... Everyone girl that isnt mainstream isnt ugly... or guy...small minded people I swear...
Since when does looks reflect how talented or how good a song is?
This is the bases of talent today?
So sad....
This is why the music industry is so screwed up now
looks don't reflect how talented someone is. thats not what i said or meant. i meant that i hear most people(yes even today)comment on how ugly she is compared to her mom. and how shocked they were that she wasnt prettier bcos her mom was. not much comment on her abilities in terms of criticism.
that's all. and yes the industry is screwy and unfairly biased etc. but take someone like kelly p or fantasia who aren't gorgeous by any means but have voices that immediately catch an ear- even if they dont keep it. people/the industry seem to be more willing to "work with" ugly types so long as they have some striking talent- the impression i get is that kristina isn't pretty enough to sound so mediocre.
Very ignorant post... and Im going to explain why its ignorant...
Everyone who wants to sing does not want to be a POP star or win a bunch of grammies. What makes you think she wants to get that big? I think she has the singing ability to make it in this industry and I dont find her to be ugly either but thats beside the point..... The fact of the matter is your thinking very very very small and on the terms of how her mother was. You automatically assume she wants to be a big international star a POP star which primarily focuses on image or looks really dont need talent. Based on the videos she post it and the songs she sings... it seems she would be more interested in having more creative input in her music and exactly making art then just saling a image.
After what her parents been through, why would she be in the industry especially with the sharks that run it?
you would think she'd run the other way
Yeah. She knows her parents had demons and she probably knew they had demons when they became famous, why would she entertain that, knowing she has problems of her own that were probably inherited from her parents' troubles. It's like Nona Gaye being in the industry but know drug addiction was a problem for her father and her mother also had drug addiction demons.
Yeah. She knows her parents had demons and she probably knew they had demons when they became famous, why would she entertain that, knowing she has problems of her own that were probably inherited from her parents' troubles. It's like Nona Gaye being in the industry but know drug addiction was a problem for her father and her mother also had drug addiction demons.
Yeah Nona is a perfect example of this Timmy. If she was smart she'd open a business or do otherwise cuz obviously the music business hasn't been good for any of her family members. I mean Cissy was ok, but not major. Dionne had her weed encounters, her mother and father struggled with every thing. Poor child needs to run the other way fast.
Yeah. She knows her parents had demons and she probably knew they had demons when they became famous, why would she entertain that, knowing she has problems of her own that were probably inherited from her parents' troubles. It's like Nona Gaye being in the industry but know drug addiction was a problem for her father and her mother also had drug addiction demons.
Yeah Nona is a perfect example of this Timmy. If she was smart she'd open a business or do otherwise cuz obviously the music business hasn't been good for any of her family members. I mean Cissy was ok, but not major. Dionne had her weed encounters, her mother and father struggled with every thing. Poor child needs to run the other way fast.
Cissy had alcohol problems.
Dionne flirted with cocaine and marijuana (she probably quit cocaine in the '80s but judging from her arrest in '04 or whatever she's still smoking weed now and then).
Dee Dee Warrick of "Foolish Girl" and "I'm Gonna Make You Love Me" fame had cocaine and heroin problems.
Of course Whitney and Bobby each had drug and alcohol problems.
Whitney's two brothers have had long plagued problems with cocaine addiction and two of Bobby's siblings also dealt with drug addiction (Tina and another sister).
I think she can do both. She seems to have a good personality & charisma. If they can make Rhianna into a pop star they can make the daughter of The Voice into one. I'm pretty sure she inherited her dads dancing ability to. So she seems to have the whole package. Just don't let Clive guide her. Maybe Jimmy Lovine can sign her & groom her.
so ok im just gonna say it. her talent wont be the cause of the criticism....... it will be her looks. how such a beauty had such an ugly child ill never know. her voice is fine,imo. room for improvement but she should be fine on that level. as for acting- hope shes better than her mom was. best of luck with it. but as i said she be compared to the beauty her mom was before she ver opens her mouth and .... well.... its not gonna be good. at least rhianna is a pretty girl who can sorta sing.
If she's gonna try show-business, I have a feeling she's going to make some physical/reconstructive changes in upcoming years to try to look more like Whitney. The appearance she inherited is ironic though: She has one of the most perfect-looking women in the world as her mother, but unfortunately looks just like her father, while none of her numerous half-siblings resemble him much at all. I mean, his sons look adopted. And yet this one little girl who should not look like Bobby Brown ends up being his clone.
"You put water into a cup, it becomes the cup...Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend." - Bruce Lee "Water can nourish me, but water can also carry me. Water has magic laws." - JCVD
Yeah Nona is a perfect example of this Timmy. If she was smart she'd open a business or do otherwise cuz obviously the music business hasn't been good for any of her family members. I mean Cissy was ok, but not major. Dionne had her weed encounters, her mother and father struggled with every thing. Poor child needs to run the other way fast.
Cissy had alcohol problems.
Dionne flirted with cocaine and marijuana (she probably quit cocaine in the '80s but judging from her arrest in '04 or whatever she's still smoking weed now and then).
Dee Dee Warrick of "Foolish Girl" and "I'm Gonna Make You Love Me" fame had cocaine and heroin problems.
Of course Whitney and Bobby each had drug and alcohol problems.
Whitney's two brothers have had long plagued problems with cocaine addiction and two of Bobby's siblings also dealt with drug addiction (Tina and another sister).
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So yeah Krissy probably shouldn't get in.
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Damn so basically the whole family has been messed up on something Poor child couldn't escape it if she tried.
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I don't know. I just know I don't trust Pat's memory of events. How could you think that Whitney's behavior wasn't drug/alcohol induced? Whitney had been seen drinking in the nightclub. In fact they said Whitney was a notorious drunk. Pat Houston being her manager and all could've helped Whitney but she let her be embarrassed like that in front of the media. Now that she's dead, she wants to act as if she was her savior or something. If you're a close confidant of your client, you don't calmly walk after hearing screams and panicking over what happened to your client. Pat just seems shady to me.
will ALWAYS think of 
like a "ACT OF GOD"! N another realm. 
