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Reply #420 posted 10/12/09 10:40pm

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I'm randomly searching for old Michael songs on the U.S Copyright website, and I came across "Sunset Driver" being created in 1982. I thought that song was a Destiny/Off The Wall outtake?
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Reply #421 posted 10/12/09 10:51pm

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for the ladies!! and some guys razz


"we make our heroes in America only to destroy them"
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Reply #422 posted 10/12/09 10:57pm

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ViintageJunkiie said:

I'm randomly searching for old Michael songs on the U.S Copyright website, and I came across "Sunset Driver" being created in 1982. I thought that song was a Destiny/Off The Wall outtake?


I love Sunset Driver! Woot!!
I thought it was older than that as well maybe it was written before that,but wasn't copyrighted till '82..??
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Reply #423 posted 10/12/09 10:57pm

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ViintageJunkiie said:

I'm randomly searching for old Michael songs on the U.S Copyright website, and I came across "Sunset Driver" being created in 1982. I thought that song was a Destiny/Off The Wall outtake?


Sometimes demos aren't registered until after they're made.
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Reply #424 posted 10/12/09 10:57pm

tangerine7

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for the ladies!! and some guys razz



yea i'm gonna quote that pic. wink
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Reply #425 posted 10/12/09 10:59pm

tangerine7

Superstition said:

ViintageJunkiie said:

I'm randomly searching for old Michael songs on the U.S Copyright website, and I came across "Sunset Driver" being created in 1982. I thought that song was a Destiny/Off The Wall outtake?


Sometimes demos aren't registered until after they're made.

yea when you create it's a process at certain times so i can see it being copyrighted a few yrs later
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Reply #426 posted 10/12/09 11:01pm

tangerine7

ViintageJunkiie said:

I'm randomly searching for old Michael songs on the U.S Copyright website, and I came across "Sunset Driver" being created in 1982. I thought that song was a Destiny/Off The Wall outtake?

keep searching though it's cool finding out when they actually were copyrighted
cool gives an ideal of when biggrin
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Reply #427 posted 10/12/09 11:02pm

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"we make our heroes in America only to destroy them"
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Reply #428 posted 10/12/09 11:02pm

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Superstition said:

ViintageJunkiie said:

I'm randomly searching for old Michael songs on the U.S Copyright website, and I came across "Sunset Driver" being created in 1982. I thought that song was a Destiny/Off The Wall outtake?


Sometimes demos aren't registered until after they're made.


Type of Work: Music
Registration Number / Date: PA0001293548 / 2005-02-14
Title: Sunset driver.
Appears in: The ultimate collection. Epic E5K 92600, c2004. 4 compact discs & video disc (DVD)
Publisher Number: Epic E5K 92600
Performer: Performed by Michael Jackson.
Copyright Claimant: Mijac Music
Date of Creation: 1982
Date of Publication: 2004-11-16
Authorship on Application: words & music: Michael J. Jackson.



It wasn't registered until 2004 which is around the same time The Ultimate Collection was coming out. Michael probably got the date of creation mixed up.
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Reply #429 posted 10/12/09 11:22pm

tangerine7

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nice picture
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Reply #430 posted 10/12/09 11:28pm

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yeah, when she wasn't a bitter b**ch, maybe she's changed in the last couple of months. i hope she still feels like shit tho
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"we make our heroes in America only to destroy them"
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Reply #431 posted 10/12/09 11:50pm

tangerine7

TMZ
http://www.tmz.com/2009/1...com_inline
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Reply #432 posted 10/12/09 11:53pm

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http://www.eonline.com/ub..._tune.html

All is well once again in Michael Jackson Litigation Land—but things were looking dicey for a minute.

Crooner Paul Anka, who perhaps most famously penned the lyrics to the Frank Sinatra standard "My Way," says that Jackson's estate has apologized to him for releasing the single "This Is It" without properly acknowledging Anka as a cowriter on the tune.

After publicly griping and threatening legal action if the matter of compensation wasn't taken care of, Anka said Monday afternoon that estate administrator John McClain called him up make amends.

"I said, 'It's fine if it's an honest mistake. These things happen,' " Anka told the New York Times. McClain told him, he said, that the estate had presented Sony with 50 songs and "This Is It" was the most distinctive—for good reason, so it turned out.

In a statement, the Jackson estate said it in no way meant to put one over on the prolific singer-songwriter.

"The song was picked because the lyrics were appropriate because of the name Michael gave his tour," McClane and coadministrator John Branca said. "We are thrilled to present this song in Michael's voice for the first time, and that Michael's fans have responded in unprecedented numbers. The song was co-written by the legendary Paul Anka."

McClain had plucked the piano-and-vocals track from the vault and built an arrangement around it, not realizing that it strongly resembled the Safire song "I Never Heard," which was credited to cowriters Jackson and Anka in the 1980s.

Anka says that he and the soon-to-be King of Pop wrote the song in 1983 as a duet for Anka's album Walk a Fine Line, but that Jackson took the tapes back shortly after the song was first recorded.

He had to threaten to sue to get the masters back, Anka said, along with documentation proving that he holds the copyright to the music and lyrics.

"They have a major, major problem on their hands," Anka said earlier today, before he received the conciliatory phone call which, incidentally, resulted in a promise that he will get 50 percent of the proceeds from sales of "This Is It."
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Reply #433 posted 10/13/09 1:32am

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Just a pic. Too cute!
"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #434 posted 10/13/09 1:34am

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dag said:

Just a pic. Too cute!



confused people are already making websites and stuff for the kids...
"we make our heroes in America only to destroy them"
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Reply #435 posted 10/13/09 3:45am

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bboy87 said:

graecophilos said:

So, Paul Anka reveiled the song was written in 1983, NOT 1980, Jay.

I assume MJs vocals are from 1983, he sounds the same at the Love Never Felt So Good demo.

If you look at the U.S. Copyright Office, "This Is It" is credited as being created in 1980 along with Love Never Felt So Good

That's where I got the date from


Okay, so please take my excuse. smile
The office is more credible than Anka.
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Reply #436 posted 10/13/09 3:46am

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ViintageJunkiie said:

Timmy84 said:



I'm gonna call it: it was recorded in 1981.


The song probably plays out the same way Michael's "PYT" did. So maybe Michaels solo version was created in 1980, and just like Quincy and James re-wrote "PYT", maybe Anka re-wrote "This Is It" with MJ in 1983.

Okay, if This Is It is MJ's original version, what did Anka change for I Never Heard.?
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Reply #437 posted 10/13/09 7:14am

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graecophilos said:

ViintageJunkiie said:



The song probably plays out the same way Michael's "PYT" did. So maybe Michaels solo version was created in 1980, and just like Quincy and James re-wrote "PYT", maybe Anka re-wrote "This Is It" with MJ in 1983.

Okay, if This Is It is MJ's original version, what did Anka change for I Never Heard.?


We haven't heard MJ's solo version he wrote by himself, so we don't know. 9 times out of 10, Anka changed the lyrics, just like Quincy and James changed Michaels lyrics to his original version of "PYT".
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Reply #438 posted 10/13/09 8:38am

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Prince's tribute to MJ in Paris....



Shake Your Body Down(to the ground) The Jacksons "Music Video"

Prince version in Paris....5.57min....done on live show 12/10/09 cool

http://www.rtl.fr/fiche/5...amais.html

Nice cool
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Da, Da, Da....Emancipation....Free..don't think I ain't..! London 21 Nights...Clap your hands...you know the rest..
James Brown & Michael Jackson RIP, your music still lives with us!
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Reply #439 posted 10/13/09 8:43am

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Someone is selling
1. Starlight (5.11)

2. Slapstick (2.44)

3. Billie Jean (Demo) (5.53)

4. Baby Be Mine (Demo) (4.16)

5. Startin’ Somethin’ (Demo) (5.30)


on ebay

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eB...3DWatching
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Reply #440 posted 10/13/09 8:45am

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mimi07 said:

wow, they're so precious smile



Jackson Kids Take on Canine Crusade
Posted Oct 10th 2009 1:30AM by TMZ Staff

Here's a tug on the heartstrings: Michael Jackson's kids saw a sad, two-legged puppy on the news ... and now they're trying to raise money to buy it new mechanical legs.

According to sources close to the family, Jackson's oldest son Prince and daughter Paris saw the dog -- a puppy named Scooby-Roo -- on the news recently -- and were so moved they decided to help raise the $2,000 necessary to buy it a custom-made cart to help it walk.

We don't know how close they are to their goal -- but seeing as they're the most famous kids on the planet, we're guessing it won't take them too long to reach it.
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You know this is a great example of what a great parent Michael was..
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Reply #441 posted 10/13/09 8:56am

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We miss you mike sad
Da, Da, Da....Emancipation....Free..don't think I ain't..! London 21 Nights...Clap your hands...you know the rest..
James Brown & Michael Jackson RIP, your music still lives with us!
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Reply #442 posted 10/13/09 9:09am

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bboy87 said:

I'm reading Rabbi Schumley's book.....well, a fan made PDF version with Rabbi's commentary removed lol


I bought the book. His commentary actually isn't judgmental at all. As someone who studies mental health and therapy, the Rabbi was doing what he could given his profession, and how fragile Michael was.

In an unrelated note my friend, check out the new trailer if you haven't seen it already. It features more of Michael's "Human Nature" performance then the first clip that made the rounds. You can hear Michael singing in his falsetto towards the end. Simply beautiful. Check it out here:
http://www.youtube.com/wa...v9YAgkdtNY
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Reply #443 posted 10/13/09 9:25am

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LondonStyle said:

Prince's tribute to MJ in Paris....



Shake Your Body Down(to the ground) The Jacksons "Music Video"

Prince version in Paris....5.57min....done on live show 12/10/09 cool

http://www.rtl.fr/fiche/5...amais.html

Nice cool
[Edited 10/13/09 8:40am]


Nice! biggrin
I've lost the use of my heart, But I'm still alive, Still looking for the life, The endless pool on the other side, It's a wild wild west, I'm doing my best, I'm a soldier of love, Every day and night, I'm soldier of love, All the days of my life.
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Reply #444 posted 10/13/09 9:43am

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Has anyone ever seen a picture of Mike and Karen without her being all over him? lol
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"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #445 posted 10/13/09 10:01am

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mimi07 said:


ah thanks, I saw that on TV and have been looking for it again with no luck. touched makes me wanna friggen cry
12/05/2011guitar
P*$$y so bad, if u throw it into da air, it would turn into sunshine!!! whistle
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Reply #446 posted 10/13/09 10:25am

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Someone is selling
1. Starlight (5.11)

2. Slapstick (2.44)

3. Billie Jean (Demo) (5.53)

4. Baby Be Mine (Demo) (4.16)

5. Startin’ Somethin’ (Demo) (5.30)


on ebay

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eB...3DWatching


Can we all MJ.org together and buy it? We can each all get copies of the songs. smile
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Reply #447 posted 10/13/09 10:32am

MyMyMy

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Prince's tribute to MJ in Paris....



Shake Your Body Down(to the ground) The Jacksons "Music Video"

Prince version in Paris....5.57min....done on live show 12/10/09 cool

http://www.rtl.fr/fiche/5...amais.html

Nice cool
[Edited 10/13/09 8:40am]


I find Mike extremely sexy in this clip. I really like his choreography with his brothers in both this song and also Heartbreak Hotel on the Victory Tour. They weren't anything elaborate but I find them really hot biggrin

And what Prince did was really nice biggrin
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Reply #448 posted 10/13/09 11:25am

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bboy87 said:

Someone is selling
1. Starlight (5.11)

2. Slapstick (2.44)

3. Billie Jean (Demo) (5.53)

4. Baby Be Mine (Demo) (4.16)

5. Startin’ Somethin’ (Demo) (5.30)


on ebay

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eB...3DWatching


Hmmm...
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Reply #449 posted 10/13/09 11:32am

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dag said:



Has anyone ever seen a picture of Mike and Karen without her being all over him? lol
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I think she was in love with Michael. Well, I don't know for sure but it appears that way.
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