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Reply #390 posted 10/12/09 5:29pm

seeingvoices12

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Timmy84 said:

Fuck TMZ, lol


yeah they made a big fuzz from nothing, and anka was stupid not to handle this quietly and in a civil way...he talked to TMZ eek

the story is:

1-Mj and anka recorded a song together called " I never heard" in 1983

2- obviously Mj didn't feel that the song is strong enough, he threw it in the vault lol

3-the song rotted in the vault for years until safire was allowed to use it and if you read credits of safire's version you would find that anka is credited.

4-sony wanted to cash in in anyway, so they changed the song title from "I never heard" to ":this is it" without giving anka any credit. lol

5-the victim of all this mess is Mj, because he appeared as a thief to many when in fact MJ never intended to release the song at all.


Just a hot mess.

Fuck TMZ
Fuck Sony.
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Reply #391 posted 10/12/09 5:35pm

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mimi07 said:

Oct 12 2009 12:55 PM EDT

Michael Jackson's 'This Is It': The Past, The Present, A Perfect MJ Tune
Song showcases MJ's often-overlooked talent as a singer.

By James Montgomery




Michael was a hell of a singer.

I only say this because to the casual music fan, it might not be apparent. Whether it was because so much about him — his dance moves, his style, his swagger — was so dynamic, or because he rarely spoke above a whisper, or even because he frequently peppered his verses with vocal ticks (like those oft-imitated "Hee-hee's"), Jackson remains one of the most underrated vocal artists in music history.

And that's a shame, because his voice was a wondrous thing, capable of reaching both towering heights (the final verse of "Rock With You") and depths ("Childhood"). It was technical, but it was also decidedly human, too, full of pump-priming rage ("Man in the Mirror") one minute, tethered tenderness the next ("She's Out of My Life"). It was a finely tuned instrument that, when unfurled, revealed all the pain and frustration and joy of Jackson's life ... a window inside the man's soul. It could stop you in your tracks and raise the hair on the back of your neck. It was something to behold.

But don't take my word for it. Just listen to "This Is It," the title track to Jackson's posthumous concert-film/double album that premiered at midnight on Monday (October 12). Because if anything, it's reinforcement of my original point: Jackson was a powerhouse vocalist.

The origins of the song may remain cloudy — it was reportedly written in 1980, in the fertile period between Jackson's Off the Wall and Thriller albums, and recorded in the mid-to-late '80s, in between the Bad and Dangerous albums — but really, none of that really matters: "This Is It" is a prime showcase for Jackson's prodigious pipes, which means that the best way to experience it — indeed, the best way to pay tribute to the man and his music — is to turn the volume up, sit back, and just listen.

Ignore the trilling strings, and the soft-jazz/light-funk backing track (which sort of make the song sound like Off the Wall's "I Can't Help It.") Block out the hype surrounding the song's release and the drama surrounding Jackson's death. Focus on those vocals — the way Jackson counts it in with a boyish "one, two, three, four," the way he glides from verse to verse with breathless, effortless phrasing, the lean-yet-heavy falsetto, the hint of gravel (and gravitas) is the verses, the soaring choruses — it's all there, untarnished by time or tabloids. And it's all wonderful.

In a lot of ways, "This Is It" might be the perfect Michael Jackson tune. And by that I mean, while it's by no means his best, or his most memorable, it might be his most representative. It's a mixture of his yearning early years and his messianic later period, and it shines a light on the best aspects of both: His voice.

Because, just in case you weren't aware, Michael Jackson was a hell of a singer.

clapping Brilliant. Just brilliant! THIS should be posted on TMZ and all other popular music news sites.

lol I hope it wasn't a relevation to alot of people that the man could sing , I think because people associate him with the dancing.
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Reply #392 posted 10/12/09 5:37pm

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Tracklist to "This Is It"

Disc 01

1. Wanna Be Startin’ Somethin’
2. Jam
3. They Don’t Care About Us
4. Human Nature
5. Smooth Criminal
6. The Way You Make Me Feel
7. Shake Your Body (Down To The Ground)
8. I Just Can’t Stop Loving You
9. Thriller
10. Beat It
11. Black Or White
12. Earth Song
13. Billie Jean
14. Man In The Mirror
15. This Is It
16. This Is It (Orchestra Version)

Disc 02

1. She’s Out Of My Life (Demo)
2. Wanna Be Startin’ Somethin’ (Demo)
3. Beat It (Demo)
4. Planet Earth (Poem) ----->> WTF???

credits, taken from danish music site: http://www.gaffa.dk/nyhed/35043
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Reply #393 posted 10/12/09 5:37pm

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Ann Powers on 'This Is It': What is the new Michael Jackson single, really?
October 12, 2009 |




Michael Jackson's first posthumous release has only been circulating for a few hours and already it's controversial. We shouldn't be surprised: Despite the unified field of emotion that formed during his mourning, the late King of Pop always has been a polarizing figure, not only because of his troubled personal life, but also because of his music.

The Jackson hits that helped shape an era of blockbuster pop -- especially ballads like "Man in the Mirror" and "You Are Not Alone," which are close in spirit to the newly released "This Is It" -- were scorned by many critics as saccharine, overly smooth and sometimes grandiose. Now, in the light of Jackson's passing and with studio-smooth, slow-danceable pop enjoying an artistic renaissance, those units of inspiration have a different impact.

For creatively ambitious stars such as Ne-Yo and Alicia Keys, as well as for many younger music writers and other taste makers, Jackson played the same role as the Beatles did for baby boomers. He wrote the book on pop as art, and his "mushy" songs are their "Let It Be," their "Yesterday."

Sony's selection of "This Is It" as the first of what should be many posthumous releases is an obvious attempt to benefit from the prevailing reverent mood regarding Jackson's music. Its provenance is mysterious, and label reps aren't offering much illumination. Musically, it's extremely close to "I Never Heard" by the Latin freestyle artist Sa-Fire, a song co-written by Jackson and Paul Anka and released in 1991.

Jackson's version could be an older demo or a later reworking of the song. It lacks the popping bass and round-the-way funkiness of Sa-Fire's interpretation, instead residing firmly in the realm of worship music as the King of Pop imagined it: non-secular but reverential, hitting all the musical buttons that signify divine presence (a heavenly choir, a stately rhythm and melodic ascent) and built around a lyric in which love causes the kind of personal transformation that's otherwise associated with religious experience.

Michael Jackson's first posthumous release has only been circulating for a few hours and already it's controversial. We shouldn't be surprised: Despite the unified field of emotion that formed during his mourning, the late King of Pop always has been a polarizing figure, not only because of his troubled personal life, but also because of his music.

The Jackson hits that helped shape an era of blockbuster pop -- especially ballads like "Man in the Mirror" and "You Are Not Alone," which are close in spirit to the newly released "This Is It" -- were scorned by many critics as saccharine, overly smooth and sometimes grandiose. Now, in the light of Jackson's passing and with studio-smooth, slow-danceable pop enjoying an artistic renaissance, those units of inspiration have a different impact.

For creatively ambitious stars such as Ne-Yo and Alicia Keys, as well as for many younger music writers and other taste makers, Jackson played the same role as the Beatles did for baby boomers. He wrote the book on pop as art, and his "mushy" songs are their "Let It Be," their "Yesterday."

Sony's selection of "This Is It" as the first of what should be many posthumous releases is an obvious attempt to benefit from the prevailing reverent mood regarding Jackson's music. Its provenance is mysterious, and label reps aren't offering much illumination. Musically, it's extremely close to "I Never Heard" by the Latin freestyle artist Sa-Fire, a song co-written by Jackson and Paul Anka and released in 1991.

Jackson's version could be an older demo or a later reworking of the song. It lacks the popping bass and round-the-way funkiness of Sa-Fire's interpretation, instead residing firmly in the realm of worship music as the King of Pop imagined it: non-secular but reverential, hitting all the musical buttons that signify divine presence (a heavenly choir, a stately rhythm and melodic ascent) and built around a lyric in which love causes the kind of personal transformation that's otherwise associated with religious experience.

The wondering-boy vocal, which shows Jackson's mastery of breath control, is carried forward by churchy piano, a very adult-contemporary guitar line (possibly provided by one of the studio pros with whom he was working circa 1991, or by a member of Toto, also in his life during that time) and that cloud of backing vocals.

Just as they were his pallbearers at his memorial and funeral, Jackson's brothers form the choir on this single -- according to Sony spokesperson Lois Najarian, their vocals were added after his death. That move raises some troubling questions, considering the complicated relationships within the Jackson clan. But it does serve the agenda of this release, which is to further recuperate Jackson's image and stimulate longing for the grace of his presence.

It's no "My Way," but "This Is It" is, in fact, a eulogy spoken by the departed himself. The song title is unintentionally tragic; the verses pain the singer as a romantic hero upon his bier, or as a kind of Jesus figure, waxing tender with his Magdalene before departing Gethsemane.

Then there is Jackson's singing. His high tenor billows and crests, but never breaks; this is ecstasy without resolution. It feels great, but unfinished. It simultaneously makes you want it to keep going and to become something else, something more.

And of course, "This Is It" will become more -- a movie, a whole series of archival releases, a resurrection of Michael Jackson, the music industry savior, if not the artist (and certainly not the person). Those curious about the direction Jackson was taking in his more recent collaborations with Akon and will.i.am will have to wait. For now, the agenda of his record label and the other caretakers of his legacy is not to create excitement for what might have been. It's to reinforce the longing for what's already missed -- for the mythical Jackson who came into being the day the man himself died.

It will be fascinating, if sometimes disturbing, to watch and hear that fantasy Michael take form. We've already witnessed many such manifestations in pop: Dead Elvis and the prolific specters of Jimi Hendrix and Tupac Shakur; accusatory ghosts such as Kurt Cobain; some who became known only in death, like Nick Drake. Michael Jackson is the first gigantic pop star to enter this afterworld during a time when disembodied existence has become normal for living people, too, through the Internet and the ever-changing state of "reality" entertainment.

How will he keep reappearing? Only time will tell, but as an initial visitation, "This Is It" makes perfect sense.




http://latimesblogs.latim...eally.html
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Reply #394 posted 10/12/09 5:40pm

tangerine7

seeingvoices12 said:

TMZ are fucking assholes, Mj would never steal anybody's work, he was talented enough to create songs , why the hell they called Mj a thief when it appeared that anka was only mad that he wasn't given credits on the song...losers.


I know right,Michael has more talent in his big toe then most artists out there today. as well as he had a ton of talent during his 'prime' he was running with alot of older and younger artists. tmz/sony f-off!
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Reply #395 posted 10/12/09 5:54pm

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babybugz said:

WaterInYourBath said:


clapping Brilliant. Just brilliant! THIS should be posted on TMZ and all other popular music news sites.

lol I hope it wasn't a relevation to alot of people that the man could sing , I think because people associate him with the dancing.

From what I've learned growing up regarding MJ, it's rare to know or meet people who seriously appreciate the unique sound and overall power of his singing. Most folks know his lyrics and "hee-hees" of course, but never study his actual vocal skill. That's why I agree he is underrated as a singer. People think of men like Sam Cooke and Rick James instantly as soulful powerhouses for whatever reasons, but always seem to disregard adult Michael. confused
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Reply #396 posted 10/12/09 5:58pm

Timmy84

WaterInYourBath said:

babybugz said:


lol I hope it wasn't a relevation to alot of people that the man could sing , I think because people associate him with the dancing.

From what I've learned growing up regarding MJ, it's rare to know or meet people who seriously appreciate the unique sound and overall power of his singing. Most folks know his lyrics and "hee-hees" of course, but never study his actual vocal skill. That's why I agree he is underrated as a singer. People think of men like Sam Cooke and Rick James instantly as soulful powerhouses for whatever reasons, but always seem to disregard adult Michael. confused


Mike can get down too, lol
People just hear what they wanna hear, I guess.
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Reply #397 posted 10/12/09 5:59pm

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"we make our heroes in America only to destroy them"
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Reply #398 posted 10/12/09 6:03pm

Timmy84

mimi07 said:



Always loved it when he sang this song. mushy
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Reply #399 posted 10/12/09 6:17pm

babybugz

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Timmy84 said:

mimi07 said:



Always loved it when he sang this song. mushy

You going to see the movie timmy?
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Reply #400 posted 10/12/09 6:21pm

Timmy84

babybugz said:

Timmy84 said:



Always loved it when he sang this song. mushy

You going to see the movie timmy?


I might, lol
But even if I don't, I'll get the DVD anyways.
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Reply #401 posted 10/12/09 6:23pm

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Timmy84 said:

mimi07 said:



Always loved it when he sang this song. mushy


mushy
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Reply #402 posted 10/12/09 6:23pm

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Timmy84 said:

babybugz said:


You going to see the movie timmy?


I might, lol
But even if I don't, I'll get the DVD anyways.

Oh lol
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Reply #403 posted 10/12/09 6:24pm

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Timmy84 said:

WaterInYourBath said:


From what I've learned growing up regarding MJ, it's rare to know or meet people who seriously appreciate the unique sound and overall power of his singing. Most folks know his lyrics and "hee-hees" of course, but never study his actual vocal skill. That's why I agree he is underrated as a singer. People think of men like Sam Cooke and Rick James instantly as soulful powerhouses for whatever reasons, but always seem to disregard adult Michael. confused


Mike can get down too, lol
People just hear what they wanna hear, I guess.


you'd have to be deaf to not hear that soul coming from Michaels singing. Michael runs on soul and it radiates outwards touches you.
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Reply #404 posted 10/12/09 6:28pm

Timmy84

tangerine7 said:

Timmy84 said:



Mike can get down too, lol
People just hear what they wanna hear, I guess.


you'd have to be deaf to not hear that soul coming from Michaels singing. Michael runs on soul and it radiates outwards touches you.


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Reply #405 posted 10/12/09 6:34pm

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it's true
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Reply #406 posted 10/12/09 6:52pm

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ViintageJunkiie said:

Sony stay tryna make a quick buck.



are you by chance Hawaiian?
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Reply #407 posted 10/12/09 6:56pm

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wow. this song is a bore and a half. it doesn't even tug on my heartstrings hearing the first "new" MJ track after his death.


blah.
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Reply #408 posted 10/12/09 7:01pm

tangerine7

Michael Jackson's "This Is It" Tour illuminated Billie Jean Jacket. Michael would have worn this "one of a kind" Jacket on his "This Is It" Tour which was to begin in London on July 13th, 2009. Materials included 7.5 pounds of "Swarovski" Glass Crystals and 60 white Luxeon Star LEDs, drawing 60 amps, producing over 220 watts of light.


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Reply #409 posted 10/12/09 7:06pm

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errant said:

wow. this song is a bore and a half. it doesn't even tug on my heartstrings hearing the first "new" MJ track after his death.


blah.



You can absolutely blame song for choosing a song that was already rotten in the vault, I don’t think mj ever intended to release this.

Its Sony’s choice not Mj

Fuck sony…..
MICHAEL JACKSON
R.I.P
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1958
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Reply #410 posted 10/12/09 7:07pm

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“This Is It” was based on a tape that Mr. Jackson left behind, containing only his piano and vocal. John McClain, a record executive and producer whom Mr. Jackson named in his will as an executor, built a full arrangement around it, including backup vocals by Mr. Jackson’s brothers.



oh damn. that would have been so much better neutral
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Reply #411 posted 10/12/09 7:10pm

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that billie jean jacket is something else, kinda dangerous but cool
"we make our heroes in America only to destroy them"
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Reply #412 posted 10/12/09 7:12pm

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HEard it at work twice (This Is It) bout to give it another listen.
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Reply #413 posted 10/12/09 7:53pm

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JACKSON'S RUSTY FAIRGROUND RIDES ARE STILL A BIG HIT, MICHAEL JACKSON'S

Neverland amusement rides have become a hit on California's county fair circuit.
Three attractions, the Spider, the Wave Swinger and the Zipper, have been auctioned off and have started appearing at carnivals.
According to the Los Angeles Times, Jackson acquired 18 rides for his ranch home in Santa Barbara County. Many of these were snapped up by fairground firms in 2008, when they hit the auction block.

Organisers of the California State Fair in Sacramento cashed in on the sudden surge of interest in all things Jackson, following the King of Pop's death, by hiring impersonators to promote the rides and playing the pop superstar's hits.
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Reply #414 posted 10/12/09 7:56pm

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dont know if posted , human nature over 1 minute !!!

http://www.youtube.com/wa...v9YAgkdtNY absolutely love his vocals
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Reply #415 posted 10/12/09 7:59pm

BoOTyLiCioUs





ex-fiance/girlfriend of Michael's
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Reply #416 posted 10/12/09 8:24pm

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Oh weird, just as I was about to ask again if anyone had got there ticket yet, a delivery man just came round as I was about to post. I was pleasantly surprised to find that they put the booklet that was at the memorial in as well, thank god as I realise it would have been quite disappointing to get just the ticket, even if it is quite nice.
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Reply #417 posted 10/12/09 8:26pm

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U.S Copyright information on "This Is It"

Type of Work: Music
Registration Number / Date: PAu000668598 / 1984-11-16
Title: This is it / Michael Jackson.
Description: 1 sound cassette.
Copyright Claimant: Mijac Music
Date of Creation: 1980
Authorship on Application: words & music: Michael Jackson.
Names: Jackson, Michael, Mijac Music


Type of Work: Music
Registration Number / Date: PAu000533333 / 1983-08-08
Title: I never heard / Anka, Jackson.
Description: 1 p.
Notes: Lead sheet.
Copyright Claimant: Mijac Music & Paulanne Music, Inc.
Date of Creation: 1980
Authorship on Application: words & music: Michael Joe Jackson & Paul Anka.

It might be the same song he later reworked with Paul Anka.
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Reply #418 posted 10/12/09 9:40pm

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motownlover said:

dont know if posted , human nature over 1 minute !!!

http://www.youtube.com/wa...v9YAgkdtNY absolutely love his vocals

thanks i love it too. i can cry, it sounds amazing
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Reply #419 posted 10/12/09 10:26pm

tangerine7

This is a link from michaejacksn.com to the Thriller 25 thriller-cast I was listening to it last night and some artists memories really touched home with me,remembering where you were when you first heard Thriller Your favourite songs off the album,and just how The music made youfeel etc. (and No, it don't matter if you wasn't born yet)..we all have memories of our first(s)...

http://www.michaeljackson...rillercast
(there's 3 pages)
I listened to LL Cool J Mia Michaels,Q Tip,Shane Sparks,Imogen Heap,Electric Boogaloo,Adam Curry & Ceu

Uhmmm for me I was about 7 in 1982/83 when i heard the Thriller album.. I am never great at picking anything as my one favourite,so with Thriller it's almost impossible for me..I do know Billie Jean,Beat It PYT etc. I loved right away no doubt,but Human Nature is a song that touched me deep,even at that young of an age..dang that whole album is amazing.Wanna Be Startin' Somethin'

Like LL Cool J. said on thriller cast said "The question is not does Thriller stand up to the music today,The question is Does the music today stand up to Thriller.."
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