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Reply #150 posted 01/13/22 7:10am

Romeoblu

ForceofNature said:



MattyJam said:


The dip in sound quality towards the last section of All My Dreams on the SOTT set is unforgiveable.



I forgave it



I never noticed a dip.
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Reply #151 posted 01/13/22 8:10am

udo

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TheEnglishGent said:


Well, that and they need to release more stuff and more quickly! biggrin

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Amen to that.

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Reply #152 posted 01/13/22 10:17am

fortuneandsere
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The way the SDEs have come out so far, seems fairly obvious a somewhat scattergun approach has been used. Bear in mind in the late 80s P recorded hundreds of songs every year. There's no way the songs selected all fit the same time period as per 1999 recording sessions, Purple Rain, Sign. It's perfectly fine if you view it as a random jukebox assembly rather than an cohesive album attempt. That we have all this music released is a blessing regardless. smile

If you're pro human rights, then you should also be very pro freedom from oppression. Anything less is double standards.

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Reply #153 posted 01/13/22 10:23am

fortuneandsere
ndipity

TheEnglishGent said:

ForceofNature said:

I forgave it

Me too. We don't know how the tapes in the vault were, maybe this is jut how that tape was after all these years and that was the best they could do. Could you imainge the outcry if the release was Frankensteined and they 'fixed' it by using a bootleg version spliced in at the end?

With Feel U Up and Irresistible Bitch on 1999 SDE, people moaned about them not being spliced together and there bing a gap between them. But when the splicing occured on Our Destiny/Roadhouse Garden, people were up in arms.

Either you want what's in the vault, as Prince left it, or you don't. Just because we, or an elite, has something in a certain quality or a certain version, that doesn't mean that is exactly what was in the vault when Prince died.

What the estate really need to do is give more details on why things are as they are. Give transparency when something is frankensteined or mixed with artistic interpretation.

Well, that and they need to release more stuff and more quickly! biggrin


The way Our Destiny/Roadhouse Garden merge sounds perfect wink. And I don't think it was Prince's idea. Debated for long enough, I'm sure someone on the org will come up with the idea space aliens had something to do with it.


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Reply #154 posted 01/13/22 10:40am

bozojones

Romeoblu said:

ForceofNature said:

I forgave it

I never noticed a dip.

It's definitely there. Been a while since I've listened so I can't remember the time stamp but somewhere during the "goodness will guide us" section, the sound gets slightly muddy and remains that way through the end of the track.

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Reply #155 posted 01/14/22 4:08am

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As for the "scattershot" schedule of releases, I agree. Several anniversaries have been missed (30th Anniversary D&P, 35th Annivesary Parade, etc.) but I don't know if the industry really cares about those milestones anymore.

There has also not been any sort of design continuity on the re-releases . . . PR and 1999 went silver, but SOTT did not. PR and 1999 were smaller, SOTT was a giant box. As a designer, I think an opportunity was missed there.

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Reply #156 posted 01/14/22 4:15am

RODSERLING

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As for the "scattershot" schedule of releases, I agree. Several anniversaries have been missed (30th Anniversary D&P, 35th Annivesary Parade, etc.) but I don't know if the industry really cares about those milestones anymore.

There has also not been any sort of design continuity on the re-releases . . . PR and 1999 went silver, but SOTT did not. PR and 1999 were smaller, SOTT was a giant box. As a designer, I think an opportunity was missed there.



Yes, and frankly, it's a pain in the ass to store and file.
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Reply #157 posted 01/14/22 4:23am

eyewishuheaven

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Se7en said:

As for the "scattershot" schedule of releases, I agree. Several anniversaries have been missed (30th Anniversary D&P, 35th Annivesary Parade, etc.) but I don't know if the industry really cares about those milestones anymore.

There has also not been any sort of design continuity on the re-releases . . . PR and 1999 went silver, but SOTT did not. PR and 1999 were smaller, SOTT was a giant box. As a designer, I think an opportunity was missed there.


Agreed. Instead of having a coherent plan, they're learning what they can get away with. W2A was proof enough of that.

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Reply #158 posted 01/14/22 6:17am

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eyewishuheaven said:


Agreed. Instead of having a coherent plan, they're learning what they can get away with. W2A was proof enough of that.

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Reply #159 posted 01/14/22 10:32am

Se7en

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udo said:

eyewishuheaven said:


Agreed. Instead of having a coherent plan, they're learning what they can get away with. W2A was proof enough of that.

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nod



The big thing for me was that there was not a US CD/Blu-Ray set priced around $40-ish. (Yes I know there was a set like this overseas, but not in the US.) And they didn't offer the Blu-Ray (or digital download) separatly. You could only get the Blu-Ray as part of the $100 deluxe set.

I opted for the $9.99 CD only. No way I would spend $100 for the deluxe set of a newer album.

Photos and stuff like ticket replicas don't move me anymore. I would have ponied up more $$ if there were demos/bonus tracks.

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Reply #160 posted 01/14/22 2:24pm

eyewishuheaven

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Se7en said:

udo said:

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nod



The big thing for me was that there was not a US CD/Blu-Ray set priced around $40-ish. (Yes I know there was a set like this overseas, but not in the US.) And they didn't offer the Blu-Ray (or digital download) separatly. You could only get the Blu-Ray as part of the $100 deluxe set.

I opted for the $9.99 CD only. No way I would spend $100 for the deluxe set of a newer album.

Photos and stuff like ticket replicas don't move me anymore. I would have ponied up more $$ if there were demos/bonus tracks.


Right there with ya. Even though I basically only stream W2A, I bought the single disc because I'm not gonna just NOT buy a new Prince album. I'd have happily ponied up for a cd/blu-ray set, but they wouldn't let me and I'm not about to get fleeced. We gotta send a message.

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Reply #161 posted 01/17/22 7:25am

Se7en

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eyewishuheaven said:

Se7en said:



The big thing for me was that there was not a US CD/Blu-Ray set priced around $40-ish. (Yes I know there was a set like this overseas, but not in the US.) And they didn't offer the Blu-Ray (or digital download) separatly. You could only get the Blu-Ray as part of the $100 deluxe set.

I opted for the $9.99 CD only. No way I would spend $100 for the deluxe set of a newer album.

Photos and stuff like ticket replicas don't move me anymore. I would have ponied up more $$ if there were demos/bonus tracks.


Right there with ya. Even though I basically only stream W2A, I bought the single disc because I'm not gonna just NOT buy a new Prince album. I'd have happily ponied up for a cd/blu-ray set, but they wouldn't let me and I'm not about to get fleeced. We gotta send a message.


I'm with you on the "no way I would NOT buy a new Prince album". I did not buy the SOTT SDE CD (a fellow Orger gave me their download codes), but I did get the 2LP peach vinyl for my birthday.


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Reply #162 posted 01/17/22 11:52pm

dm3857

The source where I got that info has been right before about releases (they have also been wrong) so I take it with a grain of salt, but it seems like they know someone in the know. Regardless I’m kind of confused bc I thought for sure we would have an announcement for something by now. & sure for other estates 6 months between announcements isn’t anything.. but for the amount of material these people gotta pump out in the next 20 years (if they wanna make the most $$$) is astounding. No reason for ALL of this man’s officially released material to not be available on streaming and in physical formats at the very least. Kind of shocked some sort of subscription or “music club” hasn’t been implemented..
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Reply #163 posted 01/18/22 1:43am

love2thenines2
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dm3857 said:

The source where I got that info has been right before about releases (they have also been wrong) so I take it with a grain of salt, but it seems like they know someone in the know. Regardless I’m kind of confused bc I thought for sure we would have an announcement for something by now. & sure for other estates 6 months between announcements isn’t anything.. but for the amount of material these people gotta pump out in the next 20 years (if they wanna make the most $$$) is astounding. No reason for ALL of this man’s officially released material to not be available on streaming and in physical formats at the very least. Kind of shocked some sort of subscription or “music club” hasn’t been implemented..

APRIL 2022 - PARADE SUPER DELUXE

AUGUST 2022 - LEGACY REISSUE CRYSTAL BALL & NEW POWER SOUL

NOVEMBER 2022 - DIAMONDS AND PEARLS SUPER DELUXE

>>>> New info about this .....stronger ??? or ???

ps> i wish to see this haapening ...really ...But .....i have my doubts !

wink

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Reply #164 posted 01/18/22 5:21am

LoveGalore

With all these supposed tidbits of info any random person can throw out, it kind of kills the momentum for me. Why get my hopes up? Who even cares when this shit comes out.
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Reply #165 posted 01/18/22 5:26am

JorisE73

LoveGalore said:

With all these supposed tidbits of info any random person can throw out, it kind of kills the momentum for me. Why get my hopes up? Who even cares when this shit comes out.


Same here, I've heard numerous (cool) things the last 4 months of what is SUPOSEDLY in the works, I'll just wait and see.

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Reply #166 posted 01/18/22 5:30am

love2thenines2
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JorisE73 said:

LoveGalore said:

With all these supposed tidbits of info any random person can throw out, it kind of kills the momentum for me. Why get my hopes up? Who even cares when this shit comes out.


Same here, I've heard numerous (cool) things the last 4 months of what is SUPOSEDLY in the works, I'll just wait and see.

.... shocked shocked Parade SDE.... shocked D&P SDE.... shocked shocked Purple Rain SDE ............ yes yes yes wildsign wildsign wildsign nuts

[Edited 1/18/22 5:30am]

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Reply #167 posted 01/18/22 5:35am

RODSERLING

Something big is Coming this year, episode 36
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Reply #168 posted 01/18/22 6:21am

love2thenines2
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RODSERLING said:

Something big is Coming this year, episode 36

Something (BIG?) is coming.......maybe (?) but when ???

What we know 4 sure is : ?

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Reply #169 posted 01/18/22 7:50am

udo

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love2thenines2003 said:

RODSERLING said:

Something big is Coming this year, episode 36

Something (BIG?) is coming.......maybe (?) but when ???

What we know 4 sure is : ?

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You will know When It's Ready(tm).

Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.
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Reply #170 posted 01/19/22 11:16am

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Hopefully Parade SDE and D&P SDE will be reasonably-priced like 1999 SDE was.

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Reply #171 posted 01/19/22 12:50pm

udo

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Se7en said:

Hopefully Parade SDE and D&P SDE will be reasonably-priced like 1999 SDE was.

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You did not notice any inflation in the CD prices lately?

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Reply #172 posted 01/20/22 12:32am

love2thenines2
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With Primary wave who took control of the rights & copyrights we are not sure about new releases as we knew so far...we are not even sure that The Estate entity + Troy Carter/Howe will continue to be employed in the weeks/months to come.

confused

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Reply #173 posted 01/20/22 1:44am

fortuneandsere
ndipity

love2thenines2003 said:

With Primary wave who took control of the rights & copyrights we are not sure about new releases as we knew so far...we are not even sure that The Estate entity + Troy Carter/Howe will continue to be employed in the weeks/months to come.

confused


I'm sure they'll still be retained. Primary Wave don't have sole control, only a stake. Albeit the largest. The family involved in the Estate still own their share, and Comerica continue to serve as the estate administrator. It's all a bit complicated, but nothing has happened yet to slow down new releases.


If you're pro human rights, then you should also be very pro freedom from oppression. Anything less is double standards.

Music is the best.
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Reply #174 posted 01/20/22 2:24am

fortuneandsere
ndipity

fortuneandserendipity said:

The way the SDEs have come out so far, seems fairly obvious a somewhat scattergun approach has been used. Bear in mind in the late 80s P recorded hundreds of songs every year. There's no way the songs selected all fit the same time period as per 1999 recording sessions, Purple Rain, Sign. It's perfectly fine if you view it as a random jukebox assembly rather than an cohesive album attempt. That we have all this music released is a blessing regardless. smile


Sometimes I sacrifice perfect grammar for poetic effect. cool


If you're pro human rights, then you should also be very pro freedom from oppression. Anything less is double standards.

Music is the best.
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Reply #175 posted 01/20/22 3:54am

love2thenines2
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fortuneandserendipity said:



love2thenines2003 said:


With Primary wave who took control of the rights & copyrights we are not sure about new releases as we knew so far...we are not even sure that The Estate entity + Troy Carter/Howe will continue to be employed in the weeks/months to come.



confused




I'm sure they'll still be retained. Primary Wave don't have sole control, only a stake. Albeit the largest. The family involved in the Estate still own their share, and Comerica continue to serve as the estate administrator. It's all a bit complicated, but nothing has happened yet to slow down new releases.






If this is really the case then it is good news...can u explain a little bit more ur thought ? Thanx in advance
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Reply #176 posted 01/20/22 4:19am

fortuneandsere
ndipity

love2thenines2003 said:

fortuneandserendipity said:


I'm sure they'll still be retained. Primary Wave don't have sole control, only a stake. Albeit the largest. The family involved in the Estate still own their share, and Comerica continue to serve as the estate administrator. It's all a bit complicated, but nothing has happened yet to slow down new releases.


If this is really the case then it is good news...can u explain a little bit more ur thought ? Thanx in advance


Pretty much summed up here https://www.digitalmusicn...ce-estate/


If you're pro human rights, then you should also be very pro freedom from oppression. Anything less is double standards.

Music is the best.
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Reply #177 posted 01/20/22 5:03am

love2thenines2
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fortuneandserendipity said:

love2thenines2003 said:

fortuneandserendipity said: If this is really the case then it is good news...can u explain a little bit more ur thought ? Thanx in advance


Pretty much summed up here https://www.digitalmusicn...ce-estate/


Thanx to provide this...i just read it >>>> from August last year "

"But in total, the stakes combined to give Primary Wave the largest single expectancy interest in” Prince’s estate.......Comerica Bank & Trust continues to serve as the estate administrator"

....ok......but until when ???

[Edited 1/20/22 5:05am]

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Reply #178 posted 01/20/22 8:00am

Se7en

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udo said:

Se7en said:

Hopefully Parade SDE and D&P SDE will be reasonably-priced like 1999 SDE was.

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You did not notice any inflation in the CD prices lately?


I honestly have not bought any CDs in the past few years other than Prince ones, the last one being W2A for $9.99.

I'm guessing from your response that the prices are higher for every artist? I was only complaining about the SOTT:SDE inflated price.

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Reply #179 posted 01/20/22 8:41am

udo

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Se7en said:

I'm guessing from your response that the prices are higher for every artist? I was only complaining about the SOTT:SDE inflated price.

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I do not buy 'regular' CD's (new) that often (outside of Prince and related)

Other stuff is second hand or b00tleg.

B00tz went up a bit but that was before COVID or even this inflation thing.

Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.
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