LoveGalore said:

Because they were both minors having sex? It's a song about someone's first time? Because she asked to smoke the weed? I have a sneaking suspicion that you aren't arguing this in good faith and it was really just an excuse to take political potshots. Let it go, dude.

Sure, the stoned 14 year old seeing double could consent to the 16 year old Prince pulling her pants off and one pumping her. I'm sure people will understand that context of "kids being kids" and not freak out if some website writes an article on it.

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if i'm wrong about this i will film myself eating one of the diamonds and pearls vault cd's when the set comes out

Strive said:

to michael howe... i really appreciate the flattering org note (in particular you guys apparently using my prince.org posts as a guide for the SDE's... thank you so much) but i suggest you post publicly in this thread and hear all the people out, i know you're reading this.

excited for Diamonds & Pearls Super Deluxe

lust said:

Strive said:

LoveGalore said:

Schoolyard will be included. It doesn't have anywhere near the lyrical issues that the other 2 omitted songs do.

It's the real story about how a 16 year old Prince lost his virginity to a stoned 14 year old. How is that not problematic?

"I was only 16 and her name was Carrie
She was the number one little girl I wanted 2 marry me
She was only 14, but she had the major body
[...]

I said "Carrie, hmm, do U wanna dance?"
She said "Uh hmm, yeah, like later man, first let me smoke this weed"
I said "Damn, my cologne ain't sayin' shit if this is what she needs"

Yeah, before I knew it, Carrie was seein' double
That's when me and her got into trouble
So much 4 the dance
I started takin' off Carrie's pants

And now boys and girls 4 the graphic part
Close your ears if U ain't got a nasty heart
Here we go
Now take a glove, fill it with hot baby lotion and slip it on
Pull it tight, that's what Carrie was like
One stroke and I was gone
Gone I was, it's true"

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No it certainly is not problematic at all.

It is a doubtful story tbh, no matter if he sings ''it's true''.

And, it's a story that fits in with countless other nasty songs prior to this one.

I am not shocked at all. Young tenagers, experiment all the time.

Maybe it's about the way it is written, and sung by a mature man, about somehting that happened when they were so young.

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And what about ''Sister'', or ''Lady Cab Driver'' ? That female taxi driver sure was not enjoying his frustration rape imho.

All these songs are just about wonderful; Simply because they make you use your imagination.

If someone is shocked by a lyrical content, it says a lot more about that person in general.

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Another important thing, he did NOT lost his virginity with a stoned 14 yo,

read what he sings :

''...take a glove ...

(that's for a hand, right ?

I don't see anyone sticking his dick in a lotion filled glove.

That means either you have a very tiny penis, or you just don't know shit how to use a condom as a 16 yo.)

...fill it with hot baby lotion and slip it on.

Pull it tight, that's what carrie was like''

He's just singing about fingering her !

Just sayin'

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Vannormal said:

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No it certainly is not problematic at all.

It is a doubtful story tbh, no matter if he sings ''it's true''.

Read The Beautiful Ones.

Strive said:

LoveGalore said:

Schoolyard will be included. It doesn't have anywhere near the lyrical issues that the other 2 omitted songs do.

It's the real story about how a 16 year old Prince lost his virginity to a stoned 14 year old. How is that not problematic?

"I was only 16 and her name was Carrie
She was the number one little girl I wanted 2 marry me
She was only 14, but she had the major body

[...]

I said "Carrie, hmm, do U wanna dance?"
She said "Uh hmm, yeah, like later man, first let me smoke this weed"
I said "Damn, my cologne ain't sayin' shit if this is what she needs"

Yeah, before I knew it, Carrie was seein' double
That's when me and her got into trouble
So much 4 the dance
I started takin' off Carrie's pants

And now boys and girls 4 the graphic part
Close your ears if U ain't got a nasty heart
Here we go
Now take a glove, fill it with hot baby lotion and slip it on
Pull it tight, that's what Carrie was like
One stroke and I was gone
Gone I was, it's true"

What kind of glove should i use? Like what material?

And, what brand of baby lotion?

SantanaMaitreya said:

I already have Crystal Ball, so I'm not interested in that one. W2A album could be nice, but the tour is not the most interesting one he's done. D&P? I'm only interested if it includes a dvd of a full concert.

Whaaaaaat?! You don't want artwork for Kamasutra?!

Yeah … me either.

Looks like I'll be keeping my money in the vault in 2021.

nayroo2002 said:

TrevorAyer said:

eye am sure eye will be unmastering

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That "eye" thing was stupid when Prince used it, and you ain't Prince.

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Also, you cannot "unmaster" something, that's like claiming you can split up soup into its original parts.

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wish they would give us the original masters instead ..

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Either something is mastered or it ain't. Sure, there is something like a flat master, but there's no way you're gonna get that.

BartVanHemelen said:

That "eye" thing was stupid when Prince used it, and you ain't Prince.

Post of the month!!!

is it summer yet

nayroo2002 said:

SoulAlive said:

as for Crystal Ball...I still have the CD version (in that round,plastic container)....no real need to buy it on vinyl.

...unless it was released in an actual 12" sphere that shoots lightning all over the room when played.

Then, i would buy it, too.

SoulAlive said:

as for Crystal Ball...I still have the CD version (in that round,plastic container)....no real need to buy it on vinyl.

If you own Crystal Ball on CD (as I, hell, we all do!), then you have every need to buy it on vinyl, because, for the first time, it won't sound like shit.... does that not sway you?

I'm so excited to hear this music as it was supposed to be heard, not so loud it's distorted.

Rimshottbob said:

If you own Crystal Ball on CD (as I, hell, we all do!), then you have every need to buy it on vinyl, because, for the first time, it won't sound like shit.... does that not sway you?

I'm so excited to hear this music as it was supposed to be heard, not so loud it's distorted.

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You lot are already imagining some grandiose new mastering job.

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And that new mastering still won't fix the butcher job Prince did to some of those tracks.

BartVanHemelen said:

Rimshottbob said:

If you own Crystal Ball on CD (as I, hell, we all do!), then you have every need to buy it on vinyl, because, for the first time, it won't sound like shit.... does that not sway you?

I'm so excited to hear this music as it was supposed to be heard, not so loud it's distorted.

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You lot are already imagining some grandiose new mastering job.

.

And that new mastering still won't fix the butcher job Prince did to some of those tracks.

Well, that's what i meant by extra lightning n shit.

i don't think it's gonna happen.

*sigh*

The lengths i must go to be literal.

Rimshottbob said:

cooldayla said:

BartVanHemelen said:

Rimshottbob said:

If you own Crystal Ball on CD (as I, hell, we all do!), then you have every need to buy it on vinyl, because, for the first time, it won't sound like shit.... does that not sway you?

I'm so excited to hear this music as it was supposed to be heard, not so loud it's distorted.

.

You lot are already imagining some grandiose new mastering job.

.

And that new mastering still won't fix the butcher job Prince did to some of those tracks.

As with EVERY OTHER SINGLE ALBUM REISSUE since Prince died, the vinyl editions of these later period albums have sounded COMPLETELY DIFFERENT to their original CD counterparts.... i.e., they have not been brickwalled.... for the first time, they have actually sounded good.

This is not hard to comprehend is it? I'm not sure what other words to use. I kind of used all the ones needed to explain the point.

As for the quality of the Crystal Ball music? The notion that the tracks are butchered and mis-sequenced is just an opinion (and a rather tired one, at that) and has nothing to do with the potential SOUND quality of any release.

Rimshottbob said:

BartVanHemelen said:

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You lot are already imagining some grandiose new mastering job.

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And that new mastering still won't fix the butcher job Prince did to some of those tracks.

As with EVERY OTHER SINGLE ALBUM REISSUE since Prince died, the vinyl editions of these later period albums have sounded COMPLETELY DIFFERENT to their original CD counterparts.... i.e., they have not been brickwalled.... for the first time, they have actually sounded good.

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None of those albums were as bad as CB. And when CB was available through the NPGMC it was IIRC just as bad as the CD set.

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As for the quality of the Crystal Ball music? The notion that the tracks are butchered and mis-sequenced is just an opinion (and a rather tired one, at that)

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It is not an opinion that for instance "Jam Of The Year" should not be featured in the intro to "Movie Star".

BartVanHemelen said: