PeggyO said:

Blouses said:

PeggyO said:

That is my sense, but obviously?

If you Wiki Acyclovir and click on Epstein-Barr syndrome, you’ll find some interesting information on prescription indications. The vial in the trash may be worthy evidence to consider.

Acyclovir cream is most commonly prescribed for genital herpes or healing herpes zoster (shingles).

This may have been the rash KJ was referring to.

Shingles is usually treated with oral Acyclovir first and can be followed by the cream to soothe the healing blisters after oral treatment.

PeggyO said:

iamafan said:

PeggyO said:

Acyclovir cream is most commonly prescribed for genital herpes or healing herpes zoster (shingles).

This may have been the rash KJ was referring to.

Shingles is usually treated with oral Acyclovir first and can be followed by the cream to soothe the healing blisters after oral treatment.

I think it was a pill. Kirk’s text read he had three bottles and then mentioned the valacyclovir. Unless he just didn’t feel like differentiating tune from bottles.

Thanks again. I am in Ireland and a little jet-lagged. In my 'fog' I incorrectly mentioned that the cream is the first-line treatment for Herpes 2.

The pill is used first for both Shingles and Herpes 2 and the cream helps later with soothing etc

Valacyclovir (Valtrex) is interpreted in the body as Acyclovir and used for both conditions and is an anti-viral medication.

RJOrion said:

Acyclovir is also used by people that are HIV positive, to try to help slow down the deterioration of the infected person's immune system....and allegedly there were Walgreens staff and certain media outlets saying that P was taking HIV meds

According to the text, it was for a rash, so not sure it would be preventative HIV treatment (although that crossed my mind as well). (I think Dr. S mentioned the rash, not slimy KJ).

iamafan said:

RJOrion said:

iamafan said:

According to the text, it was for a rash, so not sure it would be preventative HIV treatment (although that crossed my mind as well). (I think Dr. S mentioned the rash, not slimy KJ).

severe skin rashes is also one of the symptoms of active AIDS and/or HIV infection

Very true. I went down the path of suspecting HIV when I saw the valacyclovir was prescribed, especially given the rumors and his weight. But then I thought it could've been for anything as I generally don't trust the Enquirer. But after I saw the image of the text from the doctor that stated rash, I thought herpes as I believed the HIV use of valacyclovir was strictly preventative. After reading your note and reading up on it a bit, I see rash is one of the first symptoms of HIV.

I have long suspected suicide. If he did have an HIV rash, it may make even more sense that he would just 'be done' possibly. The rash wasn't obvious in any of the pictures, but it could have been on his trunk (or other non-exposed areas).

Poor Prince.

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iamafan said:

RJOrion said:

Acyclovir is also used by people that are HIV positive, to try to help slow down the deterioration of the infected person's immune system....and allegedly there were Walgreens staff and certain media outlets saying that P was taking HIV meds

According to the text, it was for a rash, so not sure it would be preventative HIV treatment (although that crossed my mind as well). (I think Dr. S mentioned the rash, not slimy KJ).

Shingles looks like a rash.It starts as pustules but with treatment, dries up and looks rash-like. It is often found in those with either stressed or compromised immune systems. Acyclovir (Valacyclovir) treats shingles.

It is found on the trunk but only on one side. When a person contracts Chicken Pox (Varicella-Zoster) as a child, the virus remains but is inactive. When the immune system is compromised, it can reactivated as Herpes- Zoster (Shingles)

Those with HIV are susceptible to 'opportunistic' infections/conditions ie., Shingles etc.

This may be the reason Clindamycin (powerful antibiotic) was mentioned as well by Kirk.

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PeggyO said:

PeggyO said:

iamafan said:

According to the text, it was for a rash, so not sure it would be preventative HIV treatment (although that crossed my mind as well). (I think Dr. S mentioned the rash, not slimy KJ).

Shingles looks like a rash.It starts as pustules but with treatment, dries up and looks rash-like. It is often found in those with either stressed or compromised immune systems. Acyclovir (Valacyclovir) treats shingles.

It is found on the trunk but only on one side. When a person contracts Chicken Pox (Varicella-Zoster) as a child, the virus remains but is inactive. When the immune system is compromised, it can reactivated as Herpes- Zoster (Shingles)

Those with HIV are susceptible to 'opportunistic' infections/conditions ie., Shingles etc.

This may be the reason Clindamycin (powerful antibiotic) was mentioned as well by Kirk.

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The Clindamycin and Tylenol 3 were prescribed by Dr. Boo to Kirk because he called her to say he couldn't make his crown prep appointment that day because he was traveling. So she called in those meds to treat his cracked tooth. Both found in the trash. So I don't think the Clindamycin is tied to the rash.

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darlingnikkkki said:

I wonder who in his circle knew he had AIDS and tipped the gossip site.

Shut up.

iamafan said:

PeggyO said:

Shingles looks like a rash.It starts as pustules but with treatment, dries up and looks rash-like. It is often found in those with either stressed or compromised immune systems. Acyclovir (Valacyclovir) treats shingles.

It is found on the trunk but only on one side. When a person contracts Chicken Pox (Varicella-Zoster) as a child, the virus remains but is inactive. When the immune system is compromised, it can reactivated as Herpes- Zoster (Shingles)

Those with HIV are susceptible to 'opportunistic' infections/conditions ie., Shingles etc.

This may be the reason Clindamycin (powerful antibiotic) was mentioned as well by Kirk.

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The Clindamycin and Tylenol 3 were prescribed by Dr. Boo to Kirk because he called her to say he couldn't make his crown prep appointment that day because he was traveling. So she called in those meds to treat his cracked tooth. Both found in the trash. So I don't think the Clindamycin is tied to the rash.

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Yes, thanks.

iamafan said:

PeggyO said:

Shingles looks like a rash.It starts as pustules but with treatment, dries up and looks rash-like. It is often found in those with either stressed or compromised immune systems. Acyclovir (Valacyclovir) treats shingles.

It is found on the trunk but only on one side. When a person contracts Chicken Pox (Varicella-Zoster) as a child, the virus remains but is inactive. When the immune system is compromised, it can reactivated as Herpes- Zoster (Shingles)

Those with HIV are susceptible to 'opportunistic' infections/conditions ie., Shingles etc.

This may be the reason Clindamycin (powerful antibiotic) was mentioned as well by Kirk.

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The Clindamycin and Tylenol 3 were prescribed by Dr. Boo to Kirk because he called her to say he couldn't make his crown prep appointment that day because he was traveling. So she called in those meds to treat his cracked tooth. Both found in the trash. So I don't think the Clindamycin is tied to the rash.

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Why would he call in the prescription and go get them only to throw them away?

LoveGalore said:

iamafan said:

The Clindamycin and Tylenol 3 were prescribed by Dr. Boo to Kirk because he called her to say he couldn't make his crown prep appointment that day because he was traveling. So she called in those meds to treat his cracked tooth. Both found in the trash. So I don't think the Clindamycin is tied to the rash.

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Why would he call in the prescription and go get them only to throw them away?

Can this be the withdrawal meds you are talking about?

Dr S. called in Hydroxizine, Clonidine and Valium on 4/20.

Acyclovir is an anti-viral RX.

RJOrion said:

PeggyO said:

Shingles looks like a rash.It starts as pustules but with treatment, dries up and looks rash-like. It is often found in those with either stressed or compromised immune systems. Acyclovir (Valacyclovir) treats shingles.

It is found on the trunk but only on one side. When a person contracts Chicken Pox (Varicella-Zoster) as a child, the virus remains but is inactive. When the immune system is compromised, it can reactivated as Herpes- Zoster (Shingles)

Those with HIV are susceptible to 'opportunistic' infections/conditions ie., Shingles etc.

This may be the reason Clindamycin (powerful antibiotic) was mentioned as well by Kirk.

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Magic Johnson missed several games in 1985 due to him having shingles...6 years later, he retired because he was HIV positive.

There is absolutely NO connection between shingles and HIV. Sure, some people might have/get both. But they are not mutually exclusive.

Anyone who's had chicken pox can get shingles - and it's quite common in people over 50. I am in the middle of a shingles vaccine protocol (two doses, three to six months apart), myself - and my immune system is right as rain.

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The backwards clothes make perfect sense if you know anything about someone trying to run around and do anything coherent at all in the midst of a major drug overdose, especially something as strong as fentanyl. It's probably one of the least mysterious things about his death, to the extent that it was mysterious all which, to me, it wasn't.

Genesia said:

RJOrion said:

PeggyO said: Magic Johnson missed several games in 1985 due to him having shingles...6 years later, he retired because he was HIV positive.

There is absolutely NO connection between shingles and HIV. Sure, some people might have/get both. But they are not mutually exclusive.

Anyone who's had chicken pox can get shingles - and it's quite common in people over 50. I am in the middle of a shingles vaccine protocol (two doses, three to six months apart), myself - and my immune system is right as rain.

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Ok.

https://www.medicalnewsto...iv-related

People with HIV are more likely to experience shingles, and shingles-related complications, than the general population.

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https://www.healthline.co...es-and-hiv

The possibility of developing shingles greatly increases if HIV has affected a person’s immune system.

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http://www.aidsmap.com/ne...v-positive

Studies conducted soon after combination antiretroviral therapy became available showed a high incidence of herpes zoster in HIV-positive people.

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https://www.hiv.va.gov/pa...nesses.asp

What follows are descriptions of some of these illnesses. Note that most of them occur only in people with severely suppressed immune function, such as in advanced HIV infection. (Shingles is included.)

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But sure. No comnection. lmfao.

LoveGalore said:

-If I may...Shingles is very common with HIV patients.

-Our immune function also decreases with age and this is why it is recommended to get the vaccine @ 50

-Most healthy folks don't just get shingles; it usually follows an event that temporarily depresses

the immune system; a diffficult flu, pneumonia, extreme grief etc.

I took a break over the holidays from the org. Well, I'm back, and this tread is sadder than ever. Interesting , how we're all still so attached to learning and hunting for answers. I believe many heartfelt truths and opinions on here. Mostly, I believe our P was a very sad and sick man for much of his last two years but he sure powered thru in his own way. Heartbreaking. ✝️

darlingnikkkki said:

I wonder who in his circle knew he had AIDS and tipped the gossip site.

even if he did it wasnt out of homosexual activity

jfenster said:

darlingnikkkki said:

I wonder who in his circle knew he had AIDS and tipped the gossip site.

even if he did it wasnt out of homosexual activity

Is there something wrong with homosexual activity?

peaceandlove said:

iamafan said:

The Clindamycin and Tylenol 3 were prescribed by Dr. Boo to Kirk because he called her to say he couldn't make his crown prep appointment that day because he was traveling. So she called in those meds to treat his cracked tooth. Both found in the trash. So I don't think the Clindamycin is tied to the rash.

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Correct.

PeggyO said:

LoveGalore said:

iamafan said:

The Clindamycin and Tylenol 3 were prescribed by Dr. Boo to Kirk because he called her to say he couldn't make his crown prep appointment that day because he was traveling. So she called in those meds to treat his cracked tooth. Both found in the trash. So I don't think the Clindamycin is tied to the rash.

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Why would he call in the prescription and go get them only to throw them away?

Well I'm guessing Kirk was trying to get some kind of controlled substances for Prince and the Clindamycin was a byproduct of the ruse of having a toothache. Prince seemed to have a ton of drugs that may have suited his needs more than Tylenol 3, so had no use for them (not talking about Fentanyl here). So, they were thrown away.

I keep thinking about the Valacyclovir (Valtrex)

Valtrex would be used for rashes that are viral in nature (antiviral). That would be herpes (all kinds), chicken pox and shingles. The fact that Dr. S prescribed Valtrex leads me to believe Prince was being treated for one of those conditions. (As opposed to a dermatitis type rash that would be treated with Benadryl or steroids if severe.)

Of course, shingles or herpes can appear with HIV/poor immune system. But maybe he just had a case of the run-of-the-mill genital (or other) herpes. Given his history, having a flare up of that wouldn't be shocking.

As a side note, I had shingles when I was 40 in the middle of summer and no preceding illness. But I know that is pretty unusual.

iamafan said:

I keep thinking about the Valacyclovir (Valtrex)

Valtrex would be used for rashes that are viral in nature (antiviral). That would be herpes (all kinds), chicken pox and shingles. The fact that Dr. S prescribed Valtrex leads me to believe Prince was being treated for one of those conditions. (As opposed to a dermatitis type rash that would be treated with Benadryl or steroids if severe.)

Of course, shingles or herpes can appear with HIV/poor immune system. But maybe he just had a case of the run-of-the-mill genital (or other) herpes. Given his history, having a flare up of that wouldn't be shocking.

As a side note, I had shingles when I was 40 in the middle of summer and no preceding illness. But I know that is pretty unusual.

Yes, it could have been either condition or both.

Shingles is usually tied to temporary or more long-lasting immune suppression. It is fairly rare to just pop-up.