Found this on a previous thread from another Orger:

ZenaRose:

OK here ya go! I could not get my pc to copy and paste so I typed it out for ya.

Not responsible for typos......

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CONCERT HALL ROOM # A2 garbage can:

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123.) During the search , DEA task force officers Voller and Lombardi searched the first floor concert hall identified for the warrant as Room A2. During their search the located a garbage can by a back door exit near the loading dock area. Inside of the garbage bag, they located CVS prescription documents along with 2 bottles of prescription medications in the name of Kirk Johnson and dated 4/14/16 ( the same day of the Atlnta concert/ emergency plane landing in Moline, Il). The 2 prescriptions were issued to Kirk Johnson by Sarah Elizabeth Boo. We knew that Dr. Schulenberg has already given Kirk Johnson a prescription that same day (4/14/16) for a controlled substance for Prince. Sarah Boo was another doctor who on the same day had prescribed a controlled substance to Kirk Johnson, Item # 27 which was identified as a prescription bottle for Acetaminophen-Codine #3 with RX # c499516. Th quantity showed 10 pills. Inside the bottle was 10 white round pills stamped 3/TV150 which according to drugs.com pill identifier search showed the pills to be Acetaminophen-Codine #3, the same as what was listed in the bottle

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124.) The second prescription bottle located in Kirk Johnson's name was also issued on 4/14/16 by Sarah Elizabeth Boo and was for Clindamycin HCL ( used for bacterial infections according to drugs.com) with a quantity of 28. Upon examining the contents of the bottle I observed green and blue capsules stamped with C39. I counted 33 capsules, 5 more capsules than what was prescribed on the bottle.

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125.) I observed a third prescription document for medication which was also in the name of Kirk Johnson with the prescriber Michael Schulenberg for 4/19/16. The prescription documentation was for Valacyclovir HCL 500 mg. ( according to drugs.com used for the treatment of herpes, cold sores, and shingles)

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126.) While speaking with Officers Voller and Lombardi, I observed a business card for Carver County Sheriff's Officer Lt. Eric Kittelson in the garbage along with the prescription bottles in Kirk Johnson's name. I knew that Lt. Kittelson was at the scene on 4/21/16 and had been one of the first to arrive on scene. I also observed in the same garbage bag as the prescriptions and Lt. Kittelson's business card, an empty Welchs Grape Juice bottle and an empty water bottle. I recalled during the initial scene search on 4/21/16, there was an empty Welch's Grape Juice bottle and water bottle near Princ's bed. Based on discovering the prescription bottles with the business card, I collected the grape juice bottle and the water bottle in case they were removed from Prince's room and needed to be tested. ( these items were placed in the trash after 4/22/16.

iamafan said:

Of course, shingles or herpes can appear with HIV/poor immune system.

You can get shingles just from being exposed to chicken pox, it's a virus, and not one doctors can usually pinpoint where it came from.

It's interesting because shingles can trigger arthritic pain, and neurological issues. If it's not treated quickly it can create a bad infection and a lot of what's been discussed could in theory be related. It's not uncommon for someone with shingles to stay in bed so long they develop other issues. The nerve damage can even be permanent with internal scarring, or even after it's treated, flare up again, and a lot of times doctors can't trace the cause of the subsequent arthritic pain. Both the shingles and arthiritis can easily result in pain killer addictions.

That just jumped out at me while reading your post.

lavendardrummachine said:

iamafan said:

Of course, shingles or herpes can appear with HIV/poor immune system.

You can get shingles just from being exposed to chicken pox, it's a virus, and not one doctors can usually pinpoint where it came from.

It's interesting because shingles can trigger arthritic pain, and neurological issues. If it's not treated quickly it can create a bad infection and a lot of what's been discussed could in theory be related. It's not uncommon for someone with shingles to stay in bed so long they develop other issues. The nerve damage can even be permanent with internal scarring, or even after it's treated, flare up again, and a lot of times doctors can't trace the cause of the subsequent arthritic pain. Both the shingles and arthiritis can easily result in pain killer addictions.

That just jumped out at me while reading your post.

Just point of clarification: Everyone who has had chicken pox has the virus for shingles.

The virus lays dormant and can be reactivated as shingles; many are older and it is often, but not always related to temporary or longer-standing depression in the immune system.

There are some residual symptoms left after experiencing shingles for some, but the vast majority heal fairly well, unless there is chronic immune deficiency.

Other conditions can stimulate shingles such as those with cancer undergoing radiation/chemotherapy

for example. It is not only related to HIV, it is related to immune suppression.

Aids is not a disease in itself, it is immune-difficiency(Acquired Immune Deficiency) which leads to opportunistic infections that most healthy immune systems would easily keep in check.

PeggyO said:

lavendardrummachine said:

You can get shingles just from being exposed to chicken pox, it's a virus, and not one doctors can usually pinpoint where it came from.

It's interesting because shingles can trigger arthritic pain, and neurological issues. If it's not treated quickly it can create a bad infection and a lot of what's been discussed could in theory be related. It's not uncommon for someone with shingles to stay in bed so long they develop other issues. The nerve damage can even be permanent with internal scarring, or even after it's treated, flare up again, and a lot of times doctors can't trace the cause of the subsequent arthritic pain. Both the shingles and arthiritis can easily result in pain killer addictions.

That just jumped out at me while reading your post.

Just point of clarification: Everyone who has had chicken pox has the virus for shingles.

The virus lays dormant and can be reactivated as shingles; many are older and it is often, but not always related to temporary or longer-standing depression in the immune system.

There are some residual symptoms left after experiencing shingles for some, but the vast majority heal fairly well, unless there is chronic immune deficiency.

Other conditions can stimulate shingles such as those with cancer undergoing radiation/chemotherapy

for example. It is not only related to HIV, it is related to immune suppression.

Aids is not a disease in itself, it is immune-difficiency(Acquired Immune Deficiency) which leads to opportunistic infections that most healthy immune systems would easily keep in check.

That's an EXCELLENT clarification!

iamafan said:

I keep thinking about the Valacyclovir (Valtrex)

Valtrex would be used for rashes that are viral in nature (antiviral). That would be herpes (all kinds), chicken pox and shingles. The fact that Dr. S prescribed Valtrex leads me to believe Prince was being treated for one of those conditions. (As opposed to a dermatitis type rash that would be treated with Benadryl or steroids if severe.)

Of course, shingles or herpes can appear with HIV/poor immune system. But maybe he just had a case of the run-of-the-mill genital (or other) herpes. Given his history, having a flare up of that wouldn't be shocking.

As a side note, I had shingles when I was 40 in the middle of summer and no preceding illness. But I know that is pretty unusual.

It actually isn't. I have known at least a dozen otherwise healthy people who got shingles in their 30s and 40s - including my hairdresser, who is in her early 30s and just came down with it the week before Thanksgiving.

Again: ANYONE WHO HAS HAD CHICKEN POX CAN GET SHINGLES. Yes, it is more common the older you get and a host of other conditions can affect the herpes zoster virus. But HIV does not cause shingles.

I don't know why that's so hard for people to grasp. And just to be clear - we don't know what Prince was taking acyclovir for.

Genesia said:

LoveGalore said:

Genesia said:

It actually isn't. I have known at least a dozen otherwise healthy people who got shingles in their 30s and 40s - including my hairdresser, who is in her early 30s and just came down with it the week before Thanksgiving.

Again: ANYONE WHO HAS HAD CHICKEN POX CAN GET SHINGLES. Yes, it is more common the older you get and a host of other conditions can affect the herpes zoster virus. But HIV does not cause shingles.

I don't know why that's so hard for people to grasp. And just to be clear - we don't know what Prince was taking acyclovir for.

Nothing here is hard to grasp for anyone but you who seems to be unaware of what comorbidities are and why shingles is one of them for HIV. lol.

And you seem spectacularly unable to grasp the difference between correlation and causation.

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Genesia said:

LoveGalore said:

Genesia said:

And you seem spectacularly unable to grasp the difference between correlation and causation.

[Edited 1/10/20 7:11am]

No no. You're inferring something that isn't being said here. Nobody is saying "he had shingles and thus had HIV" and nobody is saying "he had HIV and developed shingles". People are discussing the possibility of him having shingles and considering the blind item suggesting he had HIV. No concrete, finite facts. No one's editing his Wikipedia page. It's just a discussion.

Very true. I also brought it up because I realized he had a rash that must be viral in nature. (As I said, many rashes are more like a contract dermatitis that you wouldn't take Valtrex for). It is all just discussion.

I also think there must have been a doctor's appt that was never released with Dr. S or it was via phone for this 'rash'. I saw that the med was prescribed on 4/19, which was BEFORE he saw Dr. S on the eve of his body being discovered. (When all the blood tests were done). The texts also mentioned 3 presecription bottles, but only Valacyclovir was mentioned. No idea what those other meds were. Or maybe there is a known appt Prince went to on the Monday after Moline and I am just not remembering it.

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He sold out Larry but not in the way we may have liked.

LoveGalore said:

Genesia said:

And you seem spectacularly unable to grasp the difference between correlation and causation.

[Edited 1/10/20 7:11am]

No no. You're inferring something that isn't being said here. Nobody is saying "he had shingles and thus had HIV" and nobody is saying "he had HIV and developed shingles". People are discussing the possibility of him having shingles and considering the blind item suggesting he had HIV. No concrete, finite facts. No one's editing his Wikipedia page. It's just a discussion.

The person I originally replied to - RJOrion - said this

That is what I was talking about when I said the two had nothing to do with one another. (Hence why I quoted that specific statement.) I was talking about causation. It's you who did the inferring - and stretched my statement to include all kinds of other crap.

I am fully aware that a suppressed immune system can cause flares of dormant viruses like the various forms of herpes. Every time I have a fever, I get a cold sore on my lip - and have since I was a kid. In fact, I keep an open acyclovir prescription and a full course of treatment in my house at all times for precisely that reason. If I were to get shingles, it'd come in handy for that, too.

None of that means I'm HIV positive - or that Prince was.

PennyPurple said:

Morgaine said:

PennyPurple said:

Found this on a previous thread from another Orger:

So the medication that people are speculating could confirm Prince had AIDS or shingles or herpes was not in Prince's name - it was in Kirk's name. This means it is highly probable that Kirk was the one in need of Valacyclovir, not P.

It has been deduced that it was likely for Prince as it was thrown away (in the dumpster)

Read back several days and it will be clear.

iamafan said:

LoveGalore said:

Genesia said: No no. You're inferring something that isn't being said here. Nobody is saying "he had shingles and thus had HIV" and nobody is saying "he had HIV and developed shingles". People are discussing the possibility of him having shingles and considering the blind item suggesting he had HIV. No concrete, finite facts. No one's editing his Wikipedia page. It's just a discussion.

Very true. I also brought it up because I realized he had a rash that must be viral in nature. (As I said, many rashes are more like a contract dermatitis that you wouldn't take Valtrex for). It is all just discussion.

I also think there must have been a doctor's appt that was never released with Dr. S or it was via phone for this 'rash'. I saw that the med was prescribed on 4/19, which was BEFORE he saw Dr. S on the eve of his body being discovered. (When all the blood tests were done). The texts also mentioned 3 presecription bottles, but only Valacyclovir was mentioned. No idea what those other meds were. Or maybe there is a known appt Prince went to on the Monday after Moline and I am just not remembering it.

[Edited 1/10/20 8:15am]

This information was missed by many of us 3 years ago. Good call.

Of course, having a prescription for Acyclovir is not proof of anything, but when you add that

to the significant weight loss, difficulty keeping food down, sudden look of aging etc., it is painting a picture that is very different from someone with shingles who is generally healthy.

One needs to look at the entirety of the situation and many are and that is OK.

[Edited 1/10/20 9:51am]

Morgaine said:

PennyPurple said:

Found this on a previous thread from another Orger:

So the medication that people are speculating could confirm Prince had AIDS or shingles or herpes was not in Prince's name - it was in Kirk's name. This means it is highly probable that Kirk was the one in need of Valacyclovir, not P.

Prince's habit of getting drugs prescribed in Kirk's name renders it impossible to know what was for who.

PeggyO said:

I wonder if the detectives interviewed the chiropractor and if so why was his interview redacted from the files?

LoveGalore said:

Morgaine said:

PennyPurple said: So the medication that people are speculating could confirm Prince had AIDS or shingles or herpes was not in Prince's name - it was in Kirk's name. This means it is highly probable that Kirk was the one in need of Valacyclovir, not P.

Prince's habit of getting drugs prescribed in Kirk's name renders it impossible to know what was for who.

Also, this drug like opiates carries stigma and therefore secrecy.

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

I wonder if the detectives interviewed the chiropractor and if so why was his interview redacted from the files?

Probably something fishy.

PeggyO said:

LoveGalore said:

Prince's habit of getting drugs prescribed in Kirk's name renders it impossible to know what was for who.

Also, this drug like opiates carries stigma and therefore secrecy.

Must admit - be it shingles or straight up herpes, it's an eye-opener were it to be for Prince.

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Not to say having herpes is a big deal for the average joe, I suppose. I just hope he disclosed, if he did have them, to alllllllllllllllllllll those ladies. That's all.

LoveGalore said:

Morgaine said:

PennyPurple said: So the medication that people are speculating could confirm Prince had AIDS or shingles or herpes was not in Prince's name - it was in Kirk's name. This means it is highly probable that Kirk was the one in need of Valacyclovir, not P.

Prince's habit of getting drugs prescribed in Kirk's name renders it impossible to know what was for who.

That is what I am thinking. Just because the meds were under Kirk's name that doesn't mean they were for Kirk.

Also nothing should be ruled out that includes HIV and AIDS as long as no one has yet to see Prince's full medical records and autospy and full police statements from Tyka and Kirk.

So it look like some people are more tolerable that Kirk might have HIV but no way Prince could had it as well. Even Charlie freaking Sheen said there are tons of people in the industry are living with HIV and some are our favorites has it too so what make anyone so sure that Prince is so clean without seeing his medical records? And also when they died of AIDS complications more than likely the code use from their PR people is 'brief illiness' or 'cancer' due to the ongoing stigma.

I have this feeling that this Prince's death mystery is going to be solve before 2046. So go ahead Tyka write that book its okay to reveal what actually happen because at the end of the day people will understand and it shouldn't affect his legacy.

This thread might close when 20 hits

ladygirl99 said:

LoveGalore said:

Prince's habit of getting drugs prescribed in Kirk's name renders it impossible to know what was for who.

That is what I am thinking. Just because the meds were under Kirk's name that doesn't mean they were for Kirk.

Also nothing should be ruled out that includes HIV and AIDS as long as no one has yet to see Prince's full medical records and autospy and full police statements from Tyka and Kirk.

So it look like some people are more tolerable that Kirk might have HIV but no way Prince could had it as well. Even Charlie freaking Sheen said there are tons of people in the industry are living with HIV and some are our favorites has it too so what make anyone so sure that Prince is so clean without seeing his medical records? And also when they died of AIDS complications more than likely the code use from their PR people is 'brief illiness' or 'cancer' due to the ongoing stigma.

I have this feeling that this Prince's death mystery is going to be solve before 2046. So go ahead Tyka write that book its okay to reveal what actually happen because at the end of the day people will understand and it shouldn't affect his legacy.

HIV/AIDS is an illness, not a moral failing or character flaw. I am surprised it is still so charged. If Prince was HIV+, I can see why he hid it. There could be a tremendous feeling of shame based on many org. commenters, some as recent as yesterday. Many orgers somehow associate it with homosexuality (gasp!!).

Many folks today contract HIV from men who sleep with men and don't tell their partners because of stigma.

Why don't we 'air' that one out? That's the elephant in the room.

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PeggyO said:

ladygirl99 said:

That is what I am thinking. Just because the meds were under Kirk's name that doesn't mean they were for Kirk.

Also nothing should be ruled out that includes HIV and AIDS as long as no one has yet to see Prince's full medical records and autospy and full police statements from Tyka and Kirk.

So it look like some people are more tolerable that Kirk might have HIV but no way Prince could had it as well. Even Charlie freaking Sheen said there are tons of people in the industry are living with HIV and some are our favorites has it too so what make anyone so sure that Prince is so clean without seeing his medical records? And also when they died of AIDS complications more than likely the code use from their PR people is 'brief illiness' or 'cancer' due to the ongoing stigma.

I have this feeling that this Prince's death mystery is going to be solve before 2046. So go ahead Tyka write that book its okay to reveal what actually happen because at the end of the day people will understand and it shouldn't affect his legacy.

HIV/AIDS is an illness, not a moral failing or character flaw. I am surprised it is still so charged. If Prince was HIV+, I can see why he hid it. There could be a tremendous feeling of shame based on many org. commenters, some as recent as yesterday. Many orgers somehow associate it with homosexuality (gasp!!).

Many folks today contract HIV from men who sleep with men and don't tell their partners because of stigma.

Why don't we 'air' that one out? That's the elephant in the room.

[Edited 1/10/20 11:08am]

Well, one thing is true: Prince did not listen to doctors, regardless of whatever illness he did or didn't have. Really puzzled by that. What exactly made him so stubborn this way? My first inclination is to say it was Larry's style of preaching. After he came under Larry's tutelage, his approach to life was very much akin to Larry's: I'm telling you the truth and you can either agree or not, but you'll suffer the consequences of not agreeing with me. This very matter-of-fact, arrogant way of thinking really propagates a vibe of mistrust and paranoia, imo.

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I could see Prince feeling pretty invincible because he was protected by god since he was such a dutiful practitioner. Except, you know, that's not how life works and god won't save you from mortality.

PeggyO said:

iamafan said:

Very true. I also brought it up because I realized he had a rash that must be viral in nature. (As I said, many rashes are more like a contract dermatitis that you wouldn't take Valtrex for). It is all just discussion.

I also think there must have been a doctor's appt that was never released with Dr. S or it was via phone for this 'rash'. I saw that the med was prescribed on 4/19, which was BEFORE he saw Dr. S on the eve of his body being discovered. (When all the blood tests were done). The texts also mentioned 3 presecription bottles, but only Valacyclovir was mentioned. No idea what those other meds were. Or maybe there is a known appt Prince went to on the Monday after Moline and I am just not remembering it.

[Edited 1/10/20 8:15am]

This information was missed by many of us 3 years ago. Good call.

So because I am bored, I have been reading some of the files again.

Dr. S insists he only saw Prince twice, once early in the month and again on the 20th in the evening.

The Valacyclovir was prescribed on the 19th as mentioned previously. However, I don't think that was thrown out. Page 144 of the documents states that DOCUMENTATION for the Valacyclovir was found (in Kirk's name, of course), so I am thinking that med may actually have been taken by someone. (If the bottle had been found, it would have stated how many pills were there, if any, like was detailed for the other two meds.)

However, page 110 which documents the photos says that bottles of Valacyclovir HCL 500 and Tylenol 3 were found in the garbage. Don't know if that was an error in the document. I tend to believe page 144 which gives very good detail about each of the pill bottles and their contents. Does anyone know where these pictures are? I've seen pictures of the Tylenol 3 and Clindamycin but never the Valacyclovir.

So either there was a super secret appt for Prince on the 19th that was never documented, or the script was just called in without seeing Prince, or it was actually for Kirk.

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PeggyO said:

Of course, having a prescription for Acyclovir is not proof of anything, but when you add that

to the significant weight loss, difficulty keeping food down, sudden look of aging etc., it is painting a picture that is very different from someone with shingles who is generally healthy.

One needs to look at the entirety of the situation and many are and that is OK.

Did Prince have a prescription for acyclovir? Of Valacylovir? Or any of the virs?

LoveGalore said:

PeggyO said:

HIV/AIDS is an illness, not a moral failing or character flaw. I am surprised it is still so charged. If Prince was HIV+, I can see why he hid it. There could be a tremendous feeling of shame based on many org. commenters, some as recent as yesterday. Many orgers somehow associate it with homosexuality (gasp!!).

Many folks today contract HIV from men who sleep with men and don't tell their partners because of stigma.

Why don't we 'air' that one out? That's the elephant in the room.

[Edited 1/10/20 11:08am]

Well, one thing is true: Prince did not listen to doctors, regardless of whatever illness he did or didn't have. Really puzzled by that. What exactly made him so stubborn this way? My first inclination is to say it was Larry's style of preaching. After he came under Larry's tutelage, his approach to life was very much akin to Larry's: I'm telling you the truth and you can either agree or not, but you'll suffer the consequences of not agreeing with me. This very matter-of-fact, arrogant way of thinking really propagates a vibe of mistrust and paranoia, imo.

.

I could see Prince feeling pretty invincible because he was protected by god since he was such a dutiful practitioner. Except, you know, that's not how life works and god won't save you from mortality.

Yeah, he was stubborn. I wonder if the "think it and it will be true" attitude permeated. He said he willed everything to happen and it did for a long time. Maybe he was willing to throw caution to the wind in exchange for that outcome. He struck me as bold and a risk-taker and I think it pre-dated Larry.

I think he lost some of that feeling of protection when his baby was born, though.

Towards the end, he seemed more humble and receptive but may not have wanted to know the extent of his situation. IDK.

Complicated maze of a man, whew! I'm going for a drink as I'm in Ireland.

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Genesia said:

PeggyO said:

Of course, having a prescription for Acyclovir is not proof of anything, but when you add that

to the significant weight loss, difficulty keeping food down, sudden look of aging etc., it is painting a picture that is very different from someone with shingles who is generally healthy.

One needs to look at the entirety of the situation and many are and that is OK.

Did Prince have a prescription for acyclovir? Of Valacylovir? Or any of the virs?

Dr. S prescribed Valacyclovir in Kirk's name of the 19th. In text msgs between Kirk and Dr. S, it is stated that it should be taken for the rash.

PeggyO said:

LoveGalore said:

Well, one thing is true: Prince did not listen to doctors, regardless of whatever illness he did or didn't have. Really puzzled by that. What exactly made him so stubborn this way? My first inclination is to say it was Larry's style of preaching. After he came under Larry's tutelage, his approach to life was very much akin to Larry's: I'm telling you the truth and you can either agree or not, but you'll suffer the consequences of not agreeing with me. This very matter-of-fact, arrogant way of thinking really propagates a vibe of mistrust and paranoia, imo.

.

I could see Prince feeling pretty invincible because he was protected by god since he was such a dutiful practitioner. Except, you know, that's not how life works and god won't save you from mortality.

Yeah, he was stubborn. I wonder if the "think it and it will be true" attitude permeated. He said he willed everything to happen and it did for a long time. Maybe he was willing to throw caution to the wind in exchange for that outcome. He struck me as bold and a risk-taker and I think it pre-dated Larry.

I think he lost some of that feeling of protection when his baby was born, though.

Towards the end, he seemed more humble and receptive but may not have wanted to know the extent of his situation. IDK.

Yeah, all good points.

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It was alarming to see he was telling Judith that he insisted he'd have woken up on his own from the first OD. I do not think he took his health seriously. I tend to think he was annoyed that his health didn't fix itself in his later months. This might explain his disposition. It also might explain his slightly annoyed-looking body language in the Dr S security footage.