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Reply #720 posted 04/23/18 7:35pm

pinkeekeen

Did anyone post about this? I feel like it belongs in here. The family is filing a wrongful death lawsuit against the hospital.
https://www.rollingstone....al-w519479
[Edited 4/23/18 19:36pm]
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Reply #721 posted 04/23/18 7:39pm

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Menes said:



Bodhitheblackdog said:




Menes said:



lol Sorry. These reports are coming in fast. I'll save a swig. BTW, Can you get one of our esteemed friends in here to ummmm , calculate what the ME stated? You know... the hydrocodone thing not showing up in his blood and only in the urine business? There are some numbers attached to that, and time, and so forth.... All roads lead to Rome... which of course, is an accident. How in heaven did someone like "Dr.D" ever guess so many things that were right? Probably had a crsytal ball eh?


a crystal ball and a well-heeled (pun intended) little black dude with a big habit...


You know, I think that person stated these things prior to any leaks, or for that matter, the autopsy being completed. I think the ME called the detectives back on (5-9) to report her findings? I mean, if you are that accurate, and knew this for yearrrrrs prior to his death, how long did we say Prince was addicted ? Something is off.


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Reply #722 posted 04/23/18 7:42pm

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pinkeekeen said:

Did anyone post about this? I feel like it belongs in here. The family is filing a wrongful death lawsuit against the hospital. https://www.rollingstone....al-w519479 [Edited 4/23/18 19:36pm]


We know..... some pages back http://prince.org/msg/7/4...&pg=20

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Reply #723 posted 04/23/18 7:45pm

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NotACleverName said:

Just gonna slide inconspicuously into this empty stool.....the Dilaudid (hydromorphone) connection has perked my ears.

True...but it is confusing because dilaudid wasnt found at PP.

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Reply #724 posted 04/23/18 7:50pm

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ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:



NotACleverName said:


Just gonna slide inconspicuously into this empty stool.....the Dilaudid (hydromorphone) connection has perked my ears.

True...but it is confusing because dilaudid wasnt found at PP.


I'll concede. However, it WAS found in his urine so it was in his possession at some point. Was as a filler in the illicit pills?

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Reply #725 posted 04/23/18 7:51pm

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DD55 said:

cindyt said:

it's called hiding behind God. (have no idea if thats what happened here but i grew up in church) How would they not know...how would anyone not know..if someone had a pill addiction that bad. every single person in this whole group has to be looked at with skepticism due to the fact that somewhere in this circle was probably the supplier...*and of course I think it was kirk johnson, but you never know...also the chauffeur included...and past associates...and everyone who knew...and anyone in the little town of chanhassen...Prince was not his own supplier. Do you think?

To take that one more step....

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Why is LG getting a pass here? It’s possible that he supplied P with the drugs, maybe to control him, make P dependent on him so P could try to resurrect his sorry a$$ career. What about Chaka? LG is the one who basically told Mani years ago she did’t know what she was talking about when she express concern that her HUSBAND was using drugs, and told her not do anything.

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Something’s wrong with this whole picture… the whole JW cult thing, LG so holy, P like a puppy following LG and LG 'hipping' P to the Truth. All just weird. P was never the same guy once he got hooked up with LG. The swear jar, the Jahova talk… P was living his life a lie by trying to be something he wasn’t , it was crushing his real personality, people change but don’t make a 180 like that, and that had to take a toll on him emotionally.

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Come on? LG’s the biggest moocher of them all. You might say to an extent he basically broke up both of P’s marriages… all to keep him in line in the ‘church’ and selfishly to promote LG himself….LG boxed P into a corner with regards to how he was 'supposed' to run his life. The first thing a brainwasher does is make the subject chnage his daily life. That is what LG did and P was trapped.

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I think Josh and Hannah brought religion from a different viewpoint and P probably welcomed that.

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Hope I don’t get snipped, don’t mean to offend anyone…. but I have to let it out. ~DD55

WOW, DD, GREAT POINTS...you're absolutely correct...things went downhill BIG TIME for Prince when he hooked up with LG....and LG's DISMISSAL of Mani's concerns is both heartless and cruel...with 'friends' and 'spiritual brothers' like that, Prince didn't need enemies. What church was LG touting? The church of Satan?

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Reply #726 posted 04/23/18 8:00pm

rogifan

PennyPurple said:



rogifan said:


cloveringold85 said:


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Don't you think there is good coming out of all of this? The liars and scammers are being exposed.


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No one ever wanted to see this, but Prince is no longer here because people wanted to protect his privacy.


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In reality, had Prince got himself into treatment years ago, he would have been better off -- and none of his business would be out there right now.


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But, I look at all of this as a blessing from God above, because all these liars and thieves are being exposed for who they truly are. God works in mysterious ways.


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That's how I look at it.





Maybe it makes people feel good to believe associates are being exposed. But Sheila was at Celebration this year, Kirk was on stage playing drums at Target Center concert and tours with the NPG so... Anyway I think it’s just sad and tragic all around. Whatever his struggles were if he wanted the public/fans to know about it he would have shared it. Now it seems so dirty and a massive invasion of privacy. sad

Please....those associates have been exposed to the Prince fans on paper since last week. If it wasn't for Prince fans, people wouldn't know who they are. As Prince fans we need to step up to the plate and not support these azz's any longer. They no longer get our $$ maybe they'll go away. The media needs to start putting the heat on them and we do too. Turn up the heat and watch them sweat.


I attended the concert at Target Center and I don’t regret it one bit. It was a joyous celebration of the man and his music. You want all these people to go away...then what? Do we stop celebrating the man and his music? Shut down Paisley Park? This whole weekend in Minneapolis was a celebration. Not a focus on how he died or what issues he was dealing with and who knew what and who needs to be called out etc. I don’t think he’d want us to wallow in his death and I certainly don’t think he’d want his private struggles all there in a zip file for people to download. sad I want to celebrate everything he gave us while he was alive. That’s why I’m happy to see an official website go up and excited that new music will be coming out this fall. 💜
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Reply #727 posted 04/23/18 8:01pm

Menes

NotACleverName said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

True...but it is confusing because dilaudid wasnt found at PP.

I'll concede. However, it WAS found in his urine so it was in his possession at some point. Was as a filler in the illicit pills?

Ah, you're doing the digging. Good work. If you keep this up you might just break down the door of the " he only used fentanyl just that one time" crowd.

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Reply #728 posted 04/23/18 8:04pm

Menes

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DD55 said:

To take that one more step....

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Why is LG getting a pass here? It’s possible that he supplied P with the drugs, maybe to control him, make P dependent on him so P could try to resurrect his sorry a$$ career. What about Chaka? LG is the one who basically told Mani years ago she did’t know what she was talking about when she express concern that her HUSBAND was using drugs, and told her not do anything.

.

Something’s wrong with this whole picture… the whole JW cult thing, LG so holy, P like a puppy following LG and LG 'hipping' P to the Truth. All just weird. P was never the same guy once he got hooked up with LG. The swear jar, the Jahova talk… P was living his life a lie by trying to be something he wasn’t , it was crushing his real personality, people change but don’t make a 180 like that, and that had to take a toll on him emotionally.

.

Come on? LG’s the biggest moocher of them all. You might say to an extent he basically broke up both of P’s marriages… all to keep him in line in the ‘church’ and selfishly to promote LG himself….LG boxed P into a corner with regards to how he was 'supposed' to run his life. The first thing a brainwasher does is make the subject chnage his daily life. That is what LG did and P was trapped.

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I think Josh and Hannah brought religion from a different viewpoint and P probably welcomed that.

.

Hope I don’t get snipped, don’t mean to offend anyone…. but I have to let it out. ~DD55

WOW, DD, GREAT POINTS...you're absolutely correct...things went downhill BIG TIME for Prince when he hooked up with LG....and LG's DISMISSAL of Mani's concerns is both heartless and cruel...with 'friends' and 'spiritual brothers' like that, Prince didn't need enemies. What church was LG touting? The church of Satan?

Did you crack yours? eek You're fired up.

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Reply #729 posted 04/23/18 8:06pm

rogifan

DD55 said:



cindyt said:




pricetag said:


Surprised there wasn't more of a spotlight on the Weltons. Something always felt a little off about them--especially the God schtick. Usually, that's what happens, the stronger the faith in God, the bigger the hypocrisy. Also, how does Josh---a guy who tags along with his wife (and, let's face it, an unremarkable talent), get to become the center of things until the point at which he ends up producing a Prince album? Perhaps there's more to it. Two things about the aftermath: their police interview smacks of non-compliance. Their best friend and mentor has died but they want to cut things short because they have another appt. And, of course, the alleged paper shredding. Ask why it's being done first. Then why he's the one doing it.



it's called hiding behind God. (have no idea if thats what happened here but i grew up in church) How would they not know...how would anyone not know..if someone had a pill addiction that bad. every single person in this whole group has to be looked at with skepticism due to the fact that somewhere in this circle was probably the supplier...*and of course I think it was kirk johnson, but you never know...also the chauffeur included...and past associates...and everyone who knew...and anyone in the little town of chanhassen...Prince was not his own supplier. Do you think?



To take that one more step....


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Why is LG getting a pass here? It’s possible that he supplied P with the drugs, maybe to control him, make P dependent on him so P could try to resurrect his sorry a$$ career. What about Chaka? LG is the one who basically told Mani years ago she did’t know what she was talking about when she express concern that her HUSBAND was using drugs, and told her not do anything.


.


Something’s wrong with this whole picture… the whole JW cult thing, LG so holy, P like a puppy following LG and LG 'hipping' P to the Truth. All just weird. P was never the same guy once he got hooked up with LG. The swear jar, the Jahova talk… P was living his life a lie by trying to be something he wasn’t , it was crushing his real personality, people change but don’t make a 180 like that, and that had to take a toll on him emotionally.


.


Come on? LG’s the biggest moocher of them all. You might say to an extent he basically broke up both of P’s marriages… all to keep him in line in the ‘church’ and selfishly to promote LG himself….LG boxed P into a corner with regards to how he was 'supposed' to run his life. The first thing a brainwasher does is make the subject chnage his daily life. That is what LG did and P was trapped.


.


I think Josh and Hannah brought religion from a different viewpoint and P probably welcomed that.


.


Hope I don’t get snipped, don’t mean to offend anyone…. but I have to let it out. ~DD55




Talk about projection... eek
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Reply #730 posted 04/23/18 8:13pm

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rogifan said:

I attended the concert at Target Center and I don’t regret it one bit. It was a joyous celebration of the man and his music. You want all these people to go away...then what? Do we stop celebrating the man and his music? Shut down Paisley Park? This whole weekend in Minneapolis was a celebration. Not a focus on how he died or what issues he was dealing with and who knew what and who needs to be called out etc. I don’t think he’d want us to wallow in his death and I certainly don’t think he’d want his private struggles all there in a zip file for people to download. sad I want to celebrate everything he gave us while he was alive. That’s why I’m happy to see an official website go up and excited that new music will be coming out this fall. 💜

I will agree with you on this point.

We need to keep his legacy alive and it will come from passing it on to the younger generation.

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Reply #731 posted 04/23/18 8:13pm

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Bodhitheblackdog said:

DD55 said:

To take that one more step....

.

Why is LG getting a pass here? It’s possible that he supplied P with the drugs, maybe to control him, make P dependent on him so P could try to resurrect his sorry a$$ career. What about Chaka? LG is the one who basically told Mani years ago she did’t know what she was talking about when she express concern that her HUSBAND was using drugs, and told her not do anything.

.

Something’s wrong with this whole picture… the whole JW cult thing, LG so holy, P like a puppy following LG and LG 'hipping' P to the Truth. All just weird. P was never the same guy once he got hooked up with LG. The swear jar, the Jahova talk… P was living his life a lie by trying to be something he wasn’t , it was crushing his real personality, people change but don’t make a 180 like that, and that had to take a toll on him emotionally.

.

Come on? LG’s the biggest moocher of them all. You might say to an extent he basically broke up both of P’s marriages… all to keep him in line in the ‘church’ and selfishly to promote LG himself….LG boxed P into a corner with regards to how he was 'supposed' to run his life. The first thing a brainwasher does is make the subject chnage his daily life. That is what LG did and P was trapped.

.

I think Josh and Hannah brought religion from a different viewpoint and P probably welcomed that.

.

Hope I don’t get snipped, don’t mean to offend anyone…. but I have to let it out. ~DD55

WOW, DD, GREAT POINTS...you're absolutely correct...things went downhill BIG TIME for Prince when he hooked up with LG....and LG's DISMISSAL of Mani's concerns is both heartless and cruel...with 'friends' and 'spiritual brothers' like that, Prince didn't need enemies. What church was LG touting? The church of Satan?


Certainly the chucking out of the cussing records from the vault was JW inspired, and by association LG.

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Reply #732 posted 04/23/18 8:14pm

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rogifan said:

PennyPurple said:



rogifan said:


cloveringold85 said:

Don't you think there is good coming out of all of this? The liars and scammers are being exposed. No one ever wanted to see this, but Prince is no longer here because people wanted to protect his privacy. In reality, had Prince got himself into treatment years ago, he would have been better off -- and none of his business would be out there right now. But, I look at all of this as a blessing from God above, because all these liars and thieves are being exposed for who they truly are. God works in mysterious ways. That's how I look at it.


Maybe it makes people feel good to believe associates are being exposed. But Sheila was at Celebration this year, Kirk was on stage playing drums at Target Center concert and tours with the NPG so... Anyway I think it’s just sad and tragic all around. Whatever his struggles were if he wanted the public/fans to know about it he would have shared it. Now it seems so dirty and a massive invasion of privacy. sad

Please....those associates have been exposed to the Prince fans on paper since last week. If it wasn't for Prince fans, people wouldn't know who they are. As Prince fans we need to step up to the plate and not support these azz's any longer. They no longer get our $$ maybe they'll go away. The media needs to start putting the heat on them and we do too. Turn up the heat and watch them sweat.


I attended the concert at Target Center and I don’t regret it one bit. It was a joyous celebration of the man and his music. You want all these people to go away...then what? Do we stop celebrating the man and his music? Shut down Paisley Park? This whole weekend in Minneapolis was a celebration. Not a focus on how he died or what issues he was dealing with and who knew what and who needs to be called out etc. I don’t think he’d want us to wallow in his death and I certainly don’t think he’d want his private struggles all there in a zip file for people to download. sad I want to celebrate everything he gave us while he was alive. That’s why I’m happy to see an official website go up and excited that new music will be coming out this fall. 💜

Those things, of course, are exciting, rogi. But, at the same time, it's OK for one to be angry, confused and frustrated by the recent news that there may have been missed opportunities to help Prince save himself. Just as he had done for others.

And, frankly, these documents have been released per the standard of procedure. There were no fans clamoring for them. No demands made on LE to expose this level of info re Prince's death. You don't have to look. It's OK to keep your glasses firmly in place (we're witnessing the tragedy of that stance right now). I just don't think it's fair to shame those who choose to look.

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Reply #733 posted 04/23/18 8:16pm

cindyt

rogifan said:

DD55 said:

To take that one more step....

.

Why is LG getting a pass here? It’s possible that he supplied P with the drugs, maybe to control him, make P dependent on him so P could try to resurrect his sorry a$$ career. What about Chaka? LG is the one who basically told Mani years ago she did’t know what she was talking about when she express concern that her HUSBAND was using drugs, and told her not do anything.

.

Something’s wrong with this whole picture… the whole JW cult thing, LG so holy, P like a puppy following LG and LG 'hipping' P to the Truth. All just weird. P was never the same guy once he got hooked up with LG. The swear jar, the Jahova talk… P was living his life a lie by trying to be something he wasn’t , it was crushing his real personality, people change but don’t make a 180 like that, and that had to take a toll on him emotionally.

.

Come on? LG’s the biggest moocher of them all. You might say to an extent he basically broke up both of P’s marriages… all to keep him in line in the ‘church’ and selfishly to promote LG himself….LG boxed P into a corner with regards to how he was 'supposed' to run his life. The first thing a brainwasher does is make the subject chnage his daily life. That is what LG did and P was trapped.

.

I think Josh and Hannah brought religion from a different viewpoint and P probably welcomed that.

.

Hope I don’t get snipped, don’t mean to offend anyone…. but I have to let it out. ~DD55

Very good points. And any religion that subscribes to the "live your life in fear of letting the truth about your life be known" is a religion based on the works of man, not God. I'll stop right there. Who was Prince trying to impress? God sees all and knows all, and has unconditional love. OK, i'll quit.

Talk about projection... eek

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Reply #734 posted 04/23/18 8:17pm

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I have to be honest. I didn't know Prince other than his music. But I strongly believe all who and what he was is in his music. I can't see him being happy with the way people have been acting. Prince lived a great life and I'm sure he was happy most of the time. I've met a few people that have delt with him. Even Sharon's ex boyfriend that lived in Brooklyn. Everyone didn't agree with all the things that he did but he was respected by most. I'm sure he would be disapointed with all the messyness. Let's love the music and the man for what he gave us. His gift out weighted his flaws. IMO, he didn't have any other than being human same as all of us.

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Reply #735 posted 04/23/18 8:18pm

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ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:



NotACleverName said:


Just gonna slide inconspicuously into this empty stool.....the Dilaudid (hydromorphone) connection has perked my ears.

True...but it is confusing because dilaudid wasnt found at PP.




Hydromorphone is a further metabolite of hydrocodone according to interpretations of urine drug testing in pain patients. Not sure if this is reason it showed up
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Reply #736 posted 04/23/18 8:32pm

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MichelleJ said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:



NotACleverName said:


Just gonna slide inconspicuously into this empty stool.....the Dilaudid (hydromorphone) connection has perked my ears.

True...but it is confusing because dilaudid wasnt found at PP.


Hydromorphone is a further metabolite of hydrocodone according to interpretations of urine drug testing in pain patients. Not sure if this is reason it showed up

I'm confused....could you further explain the "further metabolite" theory you have stated.

I have sourced Hydromorphone/Dilaudid info here - https://en.m.wikipedia.or...romorphone - and here - https://www.webmd.com/dru...al/details - trying to understand your statement.

"Comparatively, hydromorphone is to morphine as hydrocodone is to codeine – it is a hydrogenated ketone thereof."

I am no scientist but wouldn't it be a further metabolite of morphine as opposed to hydrocodone?

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Reply #737 posted 04/23/18 8:33pm

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Thanks. Meron, Phaedra and Kirk look shady

definitely. Kat did a phone interview right after Prince died and was cursing up a storm saying Kirk is behind all this. I'm thinking "ok, it's too soon to get all worked up because we don't have all the facts". She was right.
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Reply #738 posted 04/23/18 8:36pm

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pinkeekeen said:

Did anyone post about this? I feel like it belongs in here. The family is filing a wrongful death lawsuit against the hospital. https://www.rollingstone....al-w519479 [Edited 4/23/18 19:36pm]

I don't know if it's usual and customary that hospitals test meds of OD patients, but except in the case where the hospital should have tested the pill, but didn't, this attorney is just trying to get a large piece of the Prince Estate pie. Heirs be aware of greedy attorneys. Sometimes it's best to just let some things go.

The hospital's comeback will be that Prince refused to allow them to run further tests on him. I think that this lawsuit is risky at best.

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Reply #739 posted 04/23/18 8:36pm

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LOVESYMBOLNUMBER2 said:

cloveringold85 said:

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Dr. Schulenberg is lucky; only had to pay a 30K fine, which is pocket-change for a doctor! I always give people the benefit of the doubt, and I'm sure he was only trying to help Prince, but he took a big risk writing Rxs in Kirk's name, knowing they were for Prince.

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I think he regrets that now -- he even said, he never wanted to be a celebrity doctor. neutral

Do we really think this was the only time dr S wrote a prescription for prince via Kirk? I wonder if they even checked to see what prescription had been written for Kirk over the years?

Yes, it sounds like they did do checks like that... because one of the doctors that wrote something supposedly, specifically for Kirk was interviewed.

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Reply #740 posted 04/23/18 8:38pm

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Purplebflogirl said:

Kirk is still riding the purple gravy train.IMHO they are suing the wrong entities..And everyone who lived in P's properties from 4/21 on should be paying fair market rent..Even Tyka. Take it out of her inheritance.



They are all paying rent now, I believe. One of the three witches made a fuss over some of them living rent free (and then got a smack from karma when she was refused a house after she wanted one and it had already been put up for sale).

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Reply #741 posted 04/23/18 8:40pm

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rogifan said:

DD55 said:

Penny, you are totally correct, it’s all public record. They probably released it all at once because they knew they would be filling FOIL requests for years to come. So they put it all out there in stead of having full time staff spend time releasing it bit by bit.

~DD55

Like I said I don’t care that it’s public record. I wish it wasn’t. What public good is coming from this? All it’s doing is making fans more sad/angry/sick to their stomach. It certainly isn’t providing closure. The stupid family lawsuit doesn’t help matters. I’m just glad Prince isn’t here to see his private struggles available as a zip file for anyone to download. sad


Actually, I would disagree with that as it provided closure for me personally being able to look over things and understand how it happened.

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Reply #742 posted 04/23/18 8:46pm

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cindyt said:



rogifan said:


DD55 said:

To take that one more step.... Why is LG getting a pass here? It’s possible that he supplied P with the drugs, mayb to control him, make P dependent on him so P could try to resurrect his sorry a$$ career. What about Chaka? LG is the one who basically told Mani years ago she did’t know what she was talking about when she express concern that her HUSBAND was using drugs, and told her not do anything. Something’s wrong with this whole picture… the whole JW cult thing, LG so holy, P like a puppy following LG and LG 'hipping' P to the Truth. All just weird. P was never the same guy once he got hooked up with LG. The swear jar, the Jahova talk… P was living his life a lie by trying to be something he wasn’t , it was crushing his real personality, people change but don’t make a 180 like that, and that had to take a toll on him emotionally. Come on? LG’s the biggest moocher of them all. You might say to an extent he basically broke up both of P’s marriages… all to keep him in line in the ‘church’ and selfishly to promote LG himself….LG boxed P into a corner with regards to how he was 'supposed' to run his life. The first thing a brainwasher does is make the subject chnage his daily life. That is what LG did and P was trapped. I think Josh and Hannah brought religion from a different viewpoint and P probably welcomed that. Hope I don’t get snipped, don’t mean to offend anyone…. but I have to let it out. ~DD55


Very good points. And any religion that subscribes to the "live your life in fear of letting the truth about your life be known" is a religion based on the works of man, not God. I'll stop right there. Who was Prince trying to impress? God sees all and knows all, and has unconditional love. OK, i'll quit.




Talk about projection... eek

Cindyt....your statement, I bolded (after DD55 sign off), is very powerful and full of insight! Unfortunately, nobody is going to know it's your thoughts if you don't start your response after the last [quote], /blockquote sequence (I couldn't add the brackets, <>, to the /blockquote because the system wants to recognize it!).

Am I making sense? Anyone else wanna help?
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Reply #743 posted 04/23/18 8:46pm

mnfriend

nelcp777 said:



MMJas said:




jtfolden said:




Remember the little private memorial they had at PP just after he passed away?



The investigators confirmed that someone accessed Prince's computer and gmail account on 04/23/2016 and deleted all of his emails prior to 04/19/2016. So at least as far as deleting things off the computer, she was telling the truth.


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This bothers me. Even if you delete stuff from the computer there are ways of accessing it, aren't there? Surely the Police could have done that.
Ûnless they did and realized what was deleted and shredded was personal stuff in order to ensure Prince's privacy and not something incriminating.



From my understanding, Google/Gmail said that the backups are on international servers that do not have to answer US warrants. I am completely paraphasing here.



*But I bet the DEA has access.
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Reply #744 posted 04/23/18 8:48pm

mnfriend

tmo1965 said:



pinkeekeen said:


Did anyone post about this? I feel like it belongs in here. The family is filing a wrongful death lawsuit against the hospital. https://www.rollingstone....al-w519479 [Edited 4/23/18 19:36pm]

I don't know if it's usual and customary that hospitals test meds of OD patients, but except in the case where the hospital should have tested the pill, but didn't, this attorney is just trying to get a large piece of the Prince Estate pie. Heirs be aware of greedy attorneys. Sometimes it's best to just let some things go.



The hospital's comeback will be that Prince refused to allow them to run further tests on him. I think that this lawsuit is risky at best.



*agree
More and more opiate OD’s/ save shots given, hospital ER time and money, they cannot test what’s in everyone’s pockets ‘to see’ they need permission for drug treatments and bodily testing. How many folks say ‘no can’t afford’
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Reply #745 posted 04/23/18 8:51pm

MichelleJ

NotACleverName said:

MichelleJ said:


Hydromorphone is a further metabolite of hydrocodone according to interpretations of urine drug testing in pain patients. Not sure if this is reason it showed up

I'm confused....could you further explain the "further metabolite" theory you have stated.

I have sourced Hydromorphone/Dilaudid info here - https://en.m.wikipedia.or...romorphone - and here - https://www.webmd.com/dru...al/details - trying to understand your statement.

"Comparatively, hydromorphone is to morphine as hydrocodone is to codeine – it is a hydrogenated ketone thereof."

I am no scientist but wouldn't it be a further metabolite of morphine as opposed to hydrocodone?



I’m sorry, I’m no scientist either and didn’t mean to cause confusion. I just know that my husbands tests show hydrocodone and hydromorphone and he only takes hydrocodone. The Dr, American Toxicology and the pharmacist tried explaining it to us. I’ll go back into my corner.
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Reply #746 posted 04/23/18 8:52pm

mnfriend

jtfolden said:



Bodhitheblackdog said:




shednz said:



I've read the lot and used NYT serach function for some revisits. As far as I can tell (and there's a lot so I could well be mistaken) it wasn't complete roulette. Bayer bottles had pills that mixed fentanyl and lidocaine. Aleve bottle had Lidocaine. There was a vitamin bottle that had pills with different ingredients - lidocaine and hydrocodone but the one he seemed attached to was the Bayer - it was in Moine as well. I would like to know the quantity of fentanyl in each watson 853 in the bayer bottle (and if they were at all consistent across the pills). They were tested for quantity at the DEA lab in Chicago but I haven't found the results. If he meant to take a legitimate watson 853 why didn't he take the hydrocodone/oycodone that Kirk got from Schulenberg and that were sitting in the briefcase?



...because he preferred Fentanyl...




He did NOT know there was Fentanyl in them... Also, he did NOT know the pills he had were counterfeit.



*Speculation, Sorry.
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Reply #747 posted 04/23/18 8:55pm

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mnfriend said:

nelcp777 said:

From my understanding, Google/Gmail said that the backups are on international servers that do not have to answer US warrants. I am completely paraphasing here.

*But I bet the DEA has access.

Yes...

I wondered how come there wasnt a way to get them anyway

Certainly under the circumstances there would be a way to get those deleted files ?

I think the WHole Police team were a bunch of country bumpkins who were way out of their league

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Reply #748 posted 04/23/18 8:57pm

daviaa34

Asenath said:

I'm interested in only reading the interviews that the police conducted. Is there just a link with the interviews of the weltons, etc all.? If so would someone be kind enough to post or point me in the right direction. I don't want to download the pictures by accident.


NT Times uploaded the interviews. I skipped ahead to where his associates were interviewed and omgggg....

https://www.nytimes.com/i...iles1.html
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Reply #749 posted 04/23/18 9:00pm

daviaa34

Omar, Dr. Boo and Crystal's testimonies, omg.
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