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Reply #630 posted 04/23/18 4:24pm

ThatWhiteDude

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kmama07 said:

cloveringold85 said:

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Laura has said some very unkind things about people on the Org. She is up to her usual antics over on LA. rolleyes

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Her and I butted heads a few times. She defended Tyka, Phaedra, Sheila & Van Jones.........saying what wonderful people they are and everything they do (or did) for Prince. rolleyes

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Whatever, really! rolleyes

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I'm giving all those leeches one big side-eye!! mad eye

What the heck is LA?

She meant to say LSA (Lipstick Alley) there's a prince forum over there and some of the members got banned here.

[Edited 4/23/18 16:25pm]

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Reply #631 posted 04/23/18 4:26pm

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Bodhitheblackdog said:



NotACleverName said:


ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

This means the autopsy will have to be released to both sides. I dont see any way around that one....


O.M.G.!! Seriously? Sheesh.....I think we just hit "can it get any worse".

We're not even close...wait until the REAL tell-alls come out!


Any predictions on the first one? I'm undecided.

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Reply #632 posted 04/23/18 4:26pm

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Just saw this on StarTribune site - http://www.startribune.co...480578161/ Prince family suing IL hospital and Walgreens. How will they win this? Every step of the way Prince refused most med treatment availed to him. When a patient refuses help, how can an institution be held liable? [Edited 4/23/18 15:29pm]


They had a famous patient who needed two narcan shots to regain consciousness. That same famous patient was being secretive but eventually stated that he had taken something else. The doctor then took that something else pill and sent it out for what should have been testing but instead was merely a visual confirmation of the medicine, something that any person could have done since it was marked watson whatever. The doctor, realizing Prince was lying about what he took and refused to do blood tests should have checked the composition for those pills, imo.


So, theoretically the question/legal argument will be whether or not hospital had the obligation to check composition of pill even though Prince refused to be cooperative/accept treatment offered?
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Reply #633 posted 04/23/18 4:33pm

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kmama07 said:

MMJas said:



NotACleverName said:


Just saw this on StarTribune site - http://www.startribune.co...480578161/ Prince family suing IL hospital and Walgreens. How will they win this? Every step of the way Prince refused most med treatment availed to him. When a patient refuses help, how can an institution be held liable? [Edited 4/23/18 15:29pm]

They had a famous patient who needed two narcan shots to regain consciousness. That same famous patient was being secretive but eventually stated that he had taken something else. The doctor then took that something else pill and sent it out for what should have been testing but instead was merely a visual confirmation of the medicine, something that any person could have done since it was marked watson whatever. The doctor, realizing Prince was lying about what he took and refused to do blood tests should have checked the composition for those pills, imo.


So, theoretically the question/legal argument will be whether or not hospital had the obligation to check composition of pill even though Prince refused to be cooperative/accept treatment offered?

If an adult patient is refusing help a hospital cannot be held liable. That's how I see it. The doc asked all the pertinent questions....including if Prince was trying to harm himself, to which he replied "absolutely not". He also said someone gave it to him (to relax), no? But, like someone mentioned, it'll force a settlement. Win/win for Prince's "family members".

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Reply #634 posted 04/23/18 4:36pm

kmama07

ThatWhiteDude said:



kmama07 said:


cloveringold85 said:


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Laura has said some very unkind things about people on the Org. She is up to her usual antics over on LA. rolleyes


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Her and I butted heads a few times. She defended Tyka, Phaedra, Sheila & Van Jones.....saying what wonderful people they are and everything they do (or did) for Prince. rolleyes


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Whatever, really! rolleyes


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I'm giving all those leeches one big side-eye!! mad eye







What the heck is LA?

She meant to say LSA (Lipstick Alley) there's a prince forum over there and some of the members got banned here.

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Haha! Thanks.
I didn't realize there were specific forums over there. I always thought it was a site where people shared their salacious groupie stories. Hahaha.
I'm sooooo not hip anymore!
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Reply #635 posted 04/23/18 4:36pm

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Didnt Judith say in her interview that P had a "tower" PC in the office or did I read that wrong?

If so, why didnt the cops get a search warrant for that computer?


Yes he had an Apple MacPro apparently. You can see it sitting under one of the desks in the photos. They seemed to be focused more on the laptop (maybe thinking since he used it on the road that's the one he might have used to contact a drug supplier?).

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Reply #636 posted 04/23/18 4:38pm

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kmama07 said:

ThatWhiteDude said:

She meant to say LSA (Lipstick Alley) there's a prince forum over there and some of the members got banned here.

[Edited 4/23/18 16:25pm]

Haha! Thanks. I didn't realize their were specific forums over there. I always thought it was a site where people sipped their salacious groupie stories. Hahaha. I'm sooooooo not hip anymore!

You're welcom smile

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Reply #637 posted 04/23/18 4:39pm

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kmama07 said:
So, theoretically the question/legal argument will be whether or not hospital had the obligation to check composition of pill even though Prince refused to be cooperative/accept treatment offered?
If an adult patient is refusing help a hospital cannot be held liable. That's how I see it. The doc asked all the pertinent questions....including if Prince was trying to harm himself, to which he replied "absolutely not". He also said someone gave it to him (to relax), no? But, like someone mentioned, it'll force a settlement. Win/win for Prince's "family members".

don't be surprised if the hospital mounts an aggressive defense against the antics of a well known drug user and his staff/enablers/proteges...all stops out...balls to the wall truth telling and blood on the walls...for what? so the smarmy sibs can have even MORE money that they don't deserve???

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Reply #638 posted 04/23/18 4:39pm

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NotACleverName said:

kmama07 said:


So, theoretically the question/legal argument will be whether or not hospital had the obligation to check composition of pill even though Prince refused to be cooperative/accept treatment offered?

If an adult patient is refusing help a hospital cannot be held liable. That's how I see it. The doc asked all the pertinent questions....including if Prince was trying to harm himself, to which he replied "absolutely not". He also said someone gave it to him (to relax), no? But, like someone mentioned, it'll force a settlement. Win/win for Prince's "family members".

So ridiculous.
They sure are pissing away the gravy train money. Settlement or not.
This family is a joke.
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Reply #639 posted 04/23/18 4:51pm

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Bodhitheblackdog said:



NotACleverName said:


kmama07 said:
So, theoretically the question/legal argument will be whether or not hospital had the obligation to check composition of pill even though Prince refused to be cooperative/accept treatment offered?

If an adult patient is refusing help a hospital cannot be held liable. That's how I see it. The doc asked all the pertinent questions....including if Prince was trying to harm himself, to which he replied "absolutely not". He also said someone gave it to him (to relax), no? But, like someone mentioned, it'll force a settlement. Win/win for Prince's "family members".



don't be surprised if the hospital mounts an aggressive defense against the antics of a well known drug user and his staff/enablers/proteges...all stops out...balls to the wall truth telling and blood on the walls...for what? so the smarmy sibs can have even MORE money that they don't deserve???





So it looks like that hospital in moline is part of unity Health, which is a faithed based non-profit hospital...that makes the Minneapolis hillbillies look even worse...
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Reply #640 posted 04/23/18 4:55pm

jjam

I'll try and put this nicely, but Laura could do with getting a life.

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Reply #641 posted 04/23/18 4:57pm

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PennyPurple said:

NotACleverName said:

PennyPurple said: The attorney is saying they will have "much to say" later but only had until April 21, 2018 to file intent due to the 2 year cap. They have included Walgreens because they say WG dispensed meds to Kirk (prescribed oxy/perc) but the doctor was aware they would be given to Prince. Hospital included because they only "visually" identified the illicit Hydro and did not run any metabolic tests, or a breakdown of contents, on them.

They should be suing Dr. S. not Walgreens, how was Walgreens supposed to know? Why aren't they suing Kirk? Kirk's names are on those scripts and he knew they weren't for him, they have proof of that in the documents.


I said it a couple of threads ago, that they would be suing the hospital because they only visually identified those pills.

This is just the beginning ... I'm sure Dr S & KJ are next ...

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Reply #642 posted 04/23/18 4:58pm

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ThatWhiteDude said:

cloveringold85 said:

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Laura has said some very unkind things about people on the Org. She is up to her usual antics over on LA. rolleyes

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Her and I butted heads a few times. She defended Tyka, Phaedra, Sheila & Van Jones.........saying what wonderful people they are and everything they do (or did) for Prince. rolleyes

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Whatever, really! rolleyes

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I'm giving all those leeches one big side-eye!! mad eye

You wanna know what she said over there regarding suicide and Prince's son? "If he didn't have a problem taking Amiir off of life support, he wouldn't have a problem with suicide." Something of that nature. When I read that, I was about to smash the screen of my laptop to little pieces. Laura fits the pattern of certain people who called themselves Prince's friends, it's seems like she has no soul.

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NO!! Please don't tell me that!! mad

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She says things without thinking. You know how she would always twist our words around--it would get exhausting trying to reason with her! She's already pissed off a few people over at LSA (lipstick alley).

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Honestly, I got so sick and tired of hearing her saying that Prince was sick and had a terminal disease!! Of course he was sick, from taking PILLS!! From reading the reports, I can see that Prince was trying to get help and trying to get better. All those signs of him looking sick was because he was having severe withdrawals, not terminal disease, LR!! mad mad

"With love, honor, and respect for every living thing in the universe, separation ceases, and we all become one being, singing one song." - Prince Roger Nelson (1958-2016)
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Reply #643 posted 04/23/18 4:59pm

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LOVESYMBOLNUMBER2 said:

Bodhitheblackdog said:

don't be surprised if the hospital mounts an aggressive defense against the antics of a well known drug user and his staff/enablers/proteges...all stops out...balls to the wall truth telling and blood on the walls...for what? so the smarmy sibs can have even MORE money that they don't deserve???

So it looks like that hospital in moline is part of unity Health, which is a faithed based non-profit hospital...that makes the Minneapolis hillbillies look even worse...

You can't even imagine how bad they're all gonna look before the dust settles...and to think, they were members of the Lucky DNA Club and all they had to do was keep a low profile, buy a flaming cheeto factory if that was their hearts' desire or launch a singing career and spend money they had NOTHING to do with earning, living off creativity they had NOTHING to do with, receiving attention and accolades they didn't deserve, etc, etc, etc. But it's all OK...there IS a great God...and everything happens by itself. As for Prince? He's Resting in Peace far away from pain, sorrow and his revolting relatives.

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Reply #644 posted 04/23/18 4:59pm

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ThatWhiteDude said:

cloveringold85 said:

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Yup! Her and I were going at it like two Bulls in a ring! Made me sick how she was giving Tyka and other's high-praises! mad

It's too bad she ain't here right now, 'cause I'd love to say: "I TOLD YOU SO."

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Nah, she would only makes things worse!! lol

"With love, honor, and respect for every living thing in the universe, separation ceases, and we all become one being, singing one song." - Prince Roger Nelson (1958-2016)
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Reply #645 posted 04/23/18 5:00pm

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cloveringold85 said:

ThatWhiteDude said:

You wanna know what she said over there regarding suicide and Prince's son? "If he didn't have a problem taking Amiir off of life support, he wouldn't have a problem with suicide." Something of that nature. When I read that, I was about to smash the screen of my laptop to little pieces. Laura fits the pattern of certain people who called themselves Prince's friends, it's seems like she has no soul.

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NO!! Please don't tell me that!! mad

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She says things without thinking. You know how she would always twist our words around--it would get exhausting trying to reason with her! She's already pissed off a few people over at LSA (lipstick alley).

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Honestly, I got so sick and tired of hearing her saying that Prince was sick and had a terminal disease!! Of course he was sick, from taking PILLS!! From reading the reports, I can see that Prince was trying to get help and trying to get better. All those signs of him looking sick was because he was having severe withdrawals, not terminal disease, LR!! mad mad

I'll never forget that, she was very challenging.

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Reply #646 posted 04/23/18 5:00pm

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cloveringold85 said:

ThatWhiteDude said:

It's too bad she ain't here right now, 'cause I'd love to say: "I TOLD YOU SO."

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Nah, she would only makes things worse!! lol

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Reply #647 posted 04/23/18 5:04pm

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NotACleverName said:

PennyPurple said:

What is it saying, I've used up my free views from the Star Tribune.

Instead of doing something, anything to the associates who was a player in the game, they sue the IL hospital and a pharmacy? WTH the pharmacy?

The attorney is saying they will have "much to say" later but only had until April 21, 2018 to file intent due to the 2 year cap. They have included Walgreens because they say WG dispensed meds to Kirk (prescribed oxy/perc) but the doctor was aware they would be given to Prince. Hospital included because they only "visually" identified the illicit Hydro and did not run any metabolic tests, or a breakdown of contents, on them.

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How could Walgreen's be liable? -- they dispensed a Rx that was called in by a legitimate doctor. There is no crime in that.

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The doctor in Moline probably assumed (yea, that word) the pills were legit, and didn't think to test them. I'm sure now she wishes she did.

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Prince refused any testing in Moline.

"With love, honor, and respect for every living thing in the universe, separation ceases, and we all become one being, singing one song." - Prince Roger Nelson (1958-2016)
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Reply #648 posted 04/23/18 5:08pm

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I wonder who they mean by "Family", Tyka and Omarr? Tyka won't do anything against these enablers, because she knows she's one of them, kick their butts and they'll bite yours.


Tyka was hardly around enough to be an enabler... She had to go through other people just to ask to speak to Prince. lol

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Yes, but if she knew Prince had a problem, she should have intervened and try to help him; not just be a bystander and do nothing. eek

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Afterall, he helped her get off drugs. Maybe she did try to help him; but it does not appear that way.

"With love, honor, and respect for every living thing in the universe, separation ceases, and we all become one being, singing one song." - Prince Roger Nelson (1958-2016)
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Reply #649 posted 04/23/18 5:11pm

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LOVESYMBOLNUMBER2 said:

Bodhitheblackdog said:

The comments accompanying this article in Prince's hometown paper make your observations, LoveSymbolnumber2, pale in comparison...BTW, hearty thanks for posting the bolded!

And gross Tyka has the balls to sue anybody after her "I knew he was dying" bullshit line of crap, is just so Tyka of her...ya know...it's my new catch phrase for low life scumb bag lying trash..."he pulled a Tyka on me"

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Tyka be like: Imma ride this purple train till it runs out of steam!

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After the past 5-days.....we could all use some humor around here! lol

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Reply #650 posted 04/23/18 5:13pm

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cloveringold85 said:

jtfolden said:


Tyka was hardly around enough to be an enabler... She had to go through other people just to ask to speak to Prince. lol

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Yes, but if she knew Prince had a problem, she should have intervened and try to help him; not just be a bystander and do nothing. eek

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Afterall, he helped her get off drugs. Maybe she did try to help him; but it does not appear that way.

This is what bothers me the most when I think about that they didn't help him. Yes he could be difficult to deal with but he was also helping those who needed help. And then when he needed some help no one seemed to care.

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Reply #651 posted 04/23/18 5:13pm

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She's STILL defending them? eek How can anyone defend them now after the documents were released?

i love lr, wonder who got her banned.

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You love LR? Wow, love is a big word. She was very abrasive with a lot of people....did you miss that part? lol

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Reply #652 posted 04/23/18 5:15pm

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PennyPurple said:

rogifan said:

I think it’s disgusting that this stuff is out there. I don’t care how interesting it is to read. Are people not allowed privacy anymore? I get why investigators need to know things when they’re investigating if a crime was committed. But who else needs to know he had hip replacement surgery in 2010 or that he was medicating himself to deal with pain? It’s nobody’s business. It’s like when autopsy reports or divorce proceedings of famous people come out and are plastered all over the tabloids. There is no public good being served. Is it just that people feel better about themselves when they can read about other people’s troubles? neutral

Nope, it's all public records. If you keep insisting that you are having trouble with it being public and our discussing it on this forum, then maybe you need to stop reading this thread. Just saying...

Penny, you are totally correct, it’s all public record. They probably released it all at once because they knew they would be filling FOIL requests for years to come. So they put it all out there in stead of having full time staff spend time releasing it bit by bit.

~DD55

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Reply #653 posted 04/23/18 5:15pm

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Bodhitheblackdog said:

kmama07 said:

luv4u said: Yes. Also, thanks for working overtime.

YES...BIG THANKS luv4u for everything, All Day/All Night...I know it hasn't been a picnic.

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We need to send her/him a nice gift.......maybe a nice vacay or dinner at her fave restaurant! biggrin

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Reply #654 posted 04/23/18 5:17pm

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PennyPurple said:

NotACleverName said:

PennyPurple said: The attorney is saying they will have "much to say" later but only had until April 21, 2018 to file intent due to the 2 year cap. They have included Walgreens because they say WG dispensed meds to Kirk (prescribed oxy/perc) but the doctor was aware they would be given to Prince. Hospital included because they only "visually" identified the illicit Hydro and did not run any metabolic tests, or a breakdown of contents, on them.

They should be suing Dr. S. not Walgreens, how was Walgreens supposed to know? Why aren't they suing Kirk? Kirk's names are on those scripts and he knew they weren't for him, they have proof of that in the documents.


I said it a couple of threads ago, that they would be suing the hospital because they only visually identified those pills.

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Dr. Schulenberg is lucky; only had to pay a 30K fine, which is pocket-change for a doctor! I always give people the benefit of the doubt, and I'm sure he was only trying to help Prince, but he took a big risk writing Rxs in Kirk's name, knowing they were for Prince.

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I think he regrets that now -- he even said, he never wanted to be a celebrity doctor. neutral

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Reply #655 posted 04/23/18 5:17pm

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Menes said:

PeteSilas said:

i love lr, wonder who got her banned.

I am going to recommend that you be committed.

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lol

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Reply #656 posted 04/23/18 5:20pm

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ThatWhiteDude said:

kmama07 said:

cloveringold85 said: What the heck is LA?

She meant to say LSA (Lipstick Alley) there's a prince forum over there and some of the members got banned here.

[Edited 4/23/18 16:25pm]

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yes

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Image result for prince yes gif

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Reply #657 posted 04/23/18 5:21pm

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cloveringold85 said:



PennyPurple said:




NotACleverName said:


PennyPurple said: The attorney is saying they will have "much to say" later but only had until April 21, 2018 to file intent due to the 2 year cap. They have included Walgreens because they say WG dispensed meds to Kirk (prescribed oxy/perc) but the doctor was aware they would be given to Prince. Hospital included because they only "visually" identified the illicit Hydro and did not run any metabolic tests, or a breakdown of contents, on them.

They should be suing Dr. S. not Walgreens, how was Walgreens supposed to know? Why aren't they suing Kirk? Kirk's names are on those scripts and he knew they weren't for him, they have proof of that in the documents.



I said it a couple of threads ago, that they would be suing the hospital because they only visually identified those pills.



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Dr. Schulenberg is lucky; only had to pay a 30K fine, which is pocket-change for a doctor! I always give people the benefit of the doubt, and I'm sure he was only trying to help Prince, but he took a big risk writing Rxs in Kirk's name, knowing they were for Prince.


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I think he regrets that now -- he even said, he never wanted to be a celebrity doctor. neutral





Do we really think this was the only time dr S wrote a prescription for prince via Kirk? I wonder if they even checked to see what prescription had been written for Kirk over the years?
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Reply #658 posted 04/23/18 5:24pm

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LOVESYMBOLNUMBER2 said:

Bodhitheblackdog said: So it looks like that hospital in moline is part of unity Health, which is a faithed based non-profit hospital...that makes the Minneapolis hillbillies look even worse...

You can't even imagine how bad they're all gonna look before the dust settles...and to think, they were members of the Lucky DNA Club and all they had to do was keep a low profile, buy a flaming cheeto factory if that was their hearts' desire or launch a singing career and spend money they had NOTHING to do with earning, living off creativity they had NOTHING to do with, receiving attention and accolades they didn't deserve, etc, etc, etc. But it's all OK...there IS a great God...and everything happens by itself. As for Prince? He's Resting in Peace far away from pain, sorrow and his revolting relatives.

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Money is all that matters to these people!! Prince didn't deserve any of this!!

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I had to chuckle at the flaming cheeto factory comment, LOL lol

"With love, honor, and respect for every living thing in the universe, separation ceases, and we all become one being, singing one song." - Prince Roger Nelson (1958-2016)
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Reply #659 posted 04/23/18 5:24pm

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Bodhitheblackdog said:



LOVESYMBOLNUMBER2 said:


Bodhitheblackdog said:


don't be surprised if the hospital mounts an aggressive defense against the antics of a well known drug user and his staff/enablers/proteges...all stops out...balls to the wall truth telling and blood on the walls...for what? so the smarmy sibs can have even MORE money that they don't deserve???



So it looks like that hospital in moline is part of unity Health, which is a faithed based non-profit hospital...that makes the Minneapolis hillbillies look even worse...

You can't even imagine how bad they're all gonna look before the dust settles...and to think, they were members of the Lucky DNA Club and all they had to do was keep a low profile, buy a flaming cheeto factory if that was their hearts' desire or launch a singing career and spend money they had NOTHING to do with earning, living off creativity they had NOTHING to do with, receiving attention and accolades they didn't deserve, etc, etc, etc. But it's all OK...there IS a great God...and everything happens by itself. As for Prince? He's Resting in Peace far away from pain, sorrow and his revolting relatives.


PREACH! And Amen....

"Go placidly amid the noise and the haste, and remember what peace there may be in silence......." ~ DESIDERATA ~ Max Ehrmann
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