Bodhitheblackdog said:

Menes said:

Are you saying that the millions that she already stands to inherit isn't enough? You don't see the greed coming right thru them nostrils? Why would you trust that book to be completely factual?

Tyka and the half-sibs are the LAST people I would turn to for factual information about Prince's health, last days, sexuality, addiction.' Only the (wo)man knows'...Kirk, where are you when we need you?

Exactly!!!

Bodhitheblackdog said:

Menes said:

Are you saying that the millions that she already stands to inherit isn't enough? You don't see the greed coming right thru them nostrils? Why would you trust that book to be completely factual?

Tyka and the half-sibs are the LAST people I would turn to for factual information about Prince's health, last days, sexuality, addiction.' Only the (wo)man knows'...Kirk, where are you when we need you?

Only Kirk probably knows. Even Larry Graham was at a distance over last few years.

fortuneandserendipity said:

Bodhitheblackdog said:

Tyka and the half-sibs are the LAST people I would turn to for factual information about Prince's health, last days, sexuality, addiction.' Only the (wo)man knows'...Kirk, where are you when we need you?

Only Kirk probably knows. Even Larry Graham was at a distance over last few years.

One thing that really bothers me is this. Why are people saying that he had chronic pain stemming from a hip problem?

I have watched footage after footage of concerts of over a 5 year period (2011-2015) and I just can't understand why someone with chronic hip pain would :

A: be able to move like that.

B. maintain such balance and coorodination.

C: walk around in the same heels that potentially caused the pain in the first place ,after shows.

D. Do consecutive shows in very short periods of time.

Before I get my head spun around in here, , I want to say that I am not implying anything, but I am not understanding if "chronic" was related to something other than hip/leg pain?

Menes said:

fortuneandserendipity said:

Only Kirk probably knows. Even Larry Graham was at a distance over last few years.

One thing that really bothers me is this. Why are people saying that he had chronic pain stemming from a hip problem?

I have watched footage after footage of concerts of over a 5 year period (2011-2015) and I just can't understand why someone with chronic hip pain would :

A: be able to move like that.

B. maintain such balance and coorodination.

C: walk around in the same heels that potentially caused the pain in the first place ,after shows.

D. Do consecutive shows in very short periods of time.

Before I get my head spun around in here, , I want to say that I am not implying anything, but I am not understanding if "chronic" was related to something other than hip/leg pain?

PRINCE HAD A CHRONIC ADDICTION TO OPIOIDS.

chron·ic

ˈkränik/

adjective

adjective: chronic

2. (of a person) having an illness persisting for a long time or constantly recurring.

• (of a person) having a particular bad habit.

"chronic bronchitis"

"a chronic asthmatic"

• (of a problem) long-lasting and difficult to eradicate.

"the school suffers from chronic overcrowding"

"a chronic liar"

Menes said:

ThatWhiteDude said:

Bodhitheblackdog said:

Menes said:

One thing that really bothers me is this. Why are people saying that he had chronic pain stemming from a hip problem?

I have watched footage after footage of concerts of over a 5 year period (2011-2015) and I just can't understand why someone with chronic hip pain would :

A: be able to move like that.

B. maintain such balance and coorodination.

C: walk around in the same heels that potentially caused the pain in the first place ,after shows.

D. Do consecutive shows in very short periods of time.

Before I get my head spun around in here, , I want to say that I am not implying anything, but I am not understanding if "chronic" was related to something other than hip/leg pain?

PRINCE HAD A CHRONIC ADDICTION TO OPIOIDS.

chron·ic

ˈkränik/

adjective

adjective: chronic

2. (of a person) having an illness persisting for a long time or constantly recurring.

• (of a person) having a particular bad habit.

(of an illness) persisting for a long time or constantly recurring.

"chronic bronchitis"

synonyms:		persistent, long-standing, long-term; More incurable; immedicable "a chronic illness"
antonyms:	acute

"a chronic asthmatic"

• (of a problem) long-lasting and difficult to eradicate.

"the school suffers from chronic overcrowding"

synonyms:		constant, continuing, ceaseless, unabating, unending, persistent, long-lasting; More severe, serious, acute, grave, dire "chronic economic problems"
antonyms:	temporary

"a chronic liar"

synonyms:		habitual, inveterate, hardened, dyed-in-the-wool, incorrigible; More compulsive; informalpathological "a chronic liar"
antonyms:	occasional

1. Are you saying that there was no pain (hip/ terminal illness) and anything "chronic", or "pain", is related soley to withdrawals / dependency?

Bodhitheblackdog said:

precioux said:

Menes said:

One thing that really bothers me is this. Why are people saying that he had chronic pain stemming from a hip problem?

I have watched footage after footage of concerts of over a 5 year period (2011-2015) and I just can't understand why someone with chronic hip pain would :

A: be able to move like that.

B. maintain such balance and coorodination.

C: walk around in the same heels that potentially caused the pain in the first place ,after shows.

D. Do consecutive shows in very short periods of time.

Before I get my head spun around in here, , I want to say that I am not implying anything, but I am not understanding if "chronic" was related to something other than hip/leg pain?

Agreed. Was it you who posted or mentioned the pic of him in the white pants suit with his "regular" heels on circa 2013? Also, I know several people who have had knee surgery,hip issues, you name it and not one of these people would be able to stand let alone walk/perform in heels. My point being that even though he had given up the "regular" heels, Prince was still sporting wedges all the way through. With serious hip pain, I can't see how that was possible

Yes, I posted that picture . I just found it rather strange to do something like that after all that was made of his pain/surgery. They are tons of pics /footage like that and so it seems as though this was normal. Either he was pretty juiced, or, there was nothing that was producing chronic hip pain. I understand that Sheila, kirk, and others, said he was in constant pain, but... why would you do anything to aggravate the pain when you didn't have to? IE: (wear 4 inch heels after doing a two hour show).

ThatWhiteDude said:

laurarichardson said:

Please come back when you know what is going on. I have not typed one thing that is not true. Marriages fail it happens. You move on with your life. You do not live vicauriously threw your spouse fo for 20 years on.

Most parents are not sending their 17.5 half year old daughter off to hang out with a 30 something year old man.

They sought him out for a reason. He was not innocent he knew what he was doing and he did run around on her the whole entire time by Mayte's own admission and her parents ran around on each other so thought it was normal. Do you think that is good parenting?

One minute her mom is on Real Houswives dissing Prince and now she is on Facebook wearing a symbol shirt. If you are a terrible parent you will have a terriable child.

[Edited 10/30/17 11:56am]

I was referring to your statement wich said: "She knew what she was getting into." That doesn't excuse his behaviour!

nope it doesn't excuse it, but she pretty much had full discloser. So it makes complaints kinda weak

(sorry Mayte et al). IMO

Menes said:

precioux said:

Menes said: Agreed. Was it you who posted or mentioned the pic of him in the white pants suit with his "regular" heels on circa 2013? Also, I know several people who have had knee surgery,hip issues, you name it and not one of these people would be able to stand let alone walk/perform in heels. My point being that even though he had given up the "regular" heels, Prince was still sporting wedges all the way through. With serious hip pain, I can't see how that was possible

Yes, I posted that picture . I just found it rather strange to do something like that after all that was made of his pain/surgery. They are tons of pics /footage like that and so it seems as though this was normal. Either he was pretty juiced, or, there was nothing that was producing chronic hip pain. I understand that Sheila, kirk, and others, said he was in constant pain, but... why would you do anything to aggravate the pain when you didn't have to? IE: (wear 4 inch heels after doing a two hour show).

If you wear heels long enough, ie over 40 years - for every single activity in your life - your muscles and tendons become shortened so that it actually produces more pain / disability to try to change to flat shoes. Your body simply can't accommodate that change. Had he attempted flat shoes after all that time, I suspect he would have been in a wheelchair. Unthinkable for Prince, I'm sure.

ThatWhiteDude said:

laurarichardson said:

I never said it did excuse his behavior. My point she knew when they were dating he was seeing Nona and Carmen. Why marry a cheater and then decide that being married to a cheater is okay because your parents did it and then be upset for 20 years about it.

Not one lick of common sense was used and people keep falling for her pity party while she tries to get a check out if.

Ever thought of the fact that she was young and maybe naiv and that he used this against her by saying: "No I don't date Carmen, she got a crush on me, that's all." And she didn't even complain about it.

but her mom and dad let her go to his apartment at night unchaperoned, because they knew she

could handle herself. that doesn't speak to someone too naive of the ways of the world. You can

be a virgin and know the ways of the world.

This thread has been locked given the flaming between posters.