MMJas said:

laurarichardson said:

It would not matter anyway because Tyka is now telling or going to be telling all so what would be the point of getting the ME to change anything.

Is she? When? Where?

TheEnglishGent said:

laurarichardson said:

It would not matter anyway because Tyka is now telling or going to be telling all so what would be the point of getting the ME to change anything.

Is she? When? Where?

She said she is going to write a book and explain more but suspect we will get more before the book comes out.

laurarichardson said:

mnfriend said:

She is not telling all (IMO) Article in daily mail says P called her while she was at McDonalds 3 years ago from an unlisted # (what, why say that?) he only called to say I have finished my job here on Earth or something like that 1 sentence that’s how she ‘knew’ That’s all she says, and that she is still using drugs and or alcohol to numb pain. Seriously. ETA: article was only her promoting O2. [Edited 10/27/17 6:10am]

Did you see the longer interview. See goes into more detail. Prince sent her a pic and a song. Once she saw the pic and listed to the song she knew he was going to die. You realize she worked for Prince and I am sure they had a follow on conversation after that. She said she jumped the gun and told family members he was going to die but did not realize at the time that it would be a few years later.

This is an awful lot of detail and you need to watch the full interview and not just read what the Daily Mail cherry picked.

laurarichardson said:

mnfriend said:

She is not telling all (IMO) Article in daily mail says P called her while she was at McDonalds 3 years ago from an unlisted # (what, why say that?) he only called to say I have finished my job here on Earth or something like that 1 sentence that’s how she ‘knew’ That’s all she says, and that she is still using drugs and or alcohol to numb pain. Seriously. ETA: article was only her promoting O2. [Edited 10/27/17 6:10am]

Did you see the longer interview. See goes into more detail. Prince sent her a pic and a song. Once she saw the pic and listed to the song she knew he was going to die. You realize she worked for Prince and I am sure they had a follow on conversation after that. She said she jumped the gun and told family members he was going to die but did not realize at the time that it would be a few years later.

This is an awful lot of detail and you need to watch the full interview and not just read what the Daily Mail cherry picked.

Where did you find the longer interview? I can only find 30-50 second clips.

TheEnglishGent said:

laurarichardson said:

Did you see the longer interview. See goes into more detail. Prince sent her a pic and a song. Once she saw the pic and listed to the song she knew he was going to die. You realize she worked for Prince and I am sure they had a follow on conversation after that. She said she jumped the gun and told family members he was going to die but did not realize at the time that it would be a few years later.

This is an awful lot of detail and you need to watch the full interview and not just read what the Daily Mail cherry picked.

Where did you find the longer interview? I can only find 30-50 second clips.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/prog...s/b099vzcp

Full interview is here, after the 2 hour mark. Around 2hr8mins.

She also appeared on Wednesday's The One Show on BBC1 - here is the transcript of the key part re his passing:
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Interviewer: It's been said you had an inkling he would pass away before he did. Is that true?
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Tyka: I didn't have an inkling; he told me...I was at McDonalds...and he called...(I took the phone) out (because it was) important....I started walking and he told me; I didn't think nothing of it...About two weeks later...he sent a picture and a song and told me to email it to a couple people. I did and then I put that picture up on my computer screen because it was a pretty picture - and about a week later, I looked up and said, 'awww, snap'. I put together his words, and that picture, and said, 'he's dying'.

.

Dibblekins said:

She also appeared on Wednesday's The One Show on BBC1 - here is the transcript of the key part re his passing:
.

Interviewer: It's been said you had an inkling he would pass away before he did. Is that true?
.

Tyka: I didn't have an inkling; he told me...I was at McDonalds...and he called...(I took the phone) out (because it was) important....I started walking and he told me; I didn't think nothing of it...About two weeks later...he sent a picture and a song and told me to email it to a couple people. I did and then I put that picture up on my computer screen because it was a pretty picture - and about a week later, I looked up and said, 'awww, snap'. I put together his words, and that picture, and said, 'he's dying'.

.

can anyone find the picture and a clue to what song she's referencing? this is turning into 'Finding Purple Waldo'...exhausting.

Bodhitheblackdog said:

Dibblekins said:

She also appeared on Wednesday's The One Show on BBC1 - here is the transcript of the key part re his passing:
.

Interviewer: It's been said you had an inkling he would pass away before he did. Is that true?
.

Tyka: I didn't have an inkling; he told me...I was at McDonalds...and he called...(I took the phone) out (because it was) important....I started walking and he told me; I didn't think nothing of it...About two weeks later...he sent a picture and a song and told me to email it to a couple people. I did and then I put that picture up on my computer screen because it was a pretty picture - and about a week later, I looked up and said, 'awww, snap'. I put together his words, and that picture, and said, 'he's dying'.

.

can anyone find the picture and a clue to what song she's referencing? this is turning into 'Finding Purple Waldo'...exhausting.

i was figuring it was a new song just for andre.

Dibblekins said:

She also appeared on Wednesday's The One Show on BBC1 - here is the transcript of the key part re his passing:
.

Interviewer: It's been said you had an inkling he would pass away before he did. Is that true?
.

Tyka: I didn't have an inkling; he told me...I was at McDonalds...and he called...(I took the phone) out (because it was) important....I started walking and he told me; I didn't think nothing of it...About two weeks later...he sent a picture and a song and told me to email it to a couple people. I did and then I put that picture up on my computer screen because it was a pretty picture - and about a week later, I looked up and said, 'awww, snap'. I put together his words, and that picture, and said, 'he's dying'.

.

The strangest part of all... "I didn't think nothing of it".

[Edited 10/27/17 16:37pm]

Bodhitheblackdog said:

can anyone find the picture and a clue to what song she's referencing? this is turning into 'Finding Purple Waldo'...exhausting.

I'm wondering if it was a childhood picture of Prince, Andre and Andre's sister.

laurarichardson said:

fortuneandserendipity said:

I understand everything you've said. I just don't agree with you. And I don't think you get what I'm driving at. I'm saying if the ME doesn't include terminal illness on the first page, then she's misleading...

Your argument is, her practice is in accordance with the law. If you think that Minnesotan law has been applied correctly, that's your opinion. What might actually make more sense is if the 'family' had a word, and the ME complied with their and maybe P's wishes. Because your argument makes fuck all sense to me...

Namely, Prince was dying from terminal illness, but his taking of opiates had nothing to do with that terminal illness whatsoever l o l

Do you see the problem with your argument now?

You are so clueless. You cannot handle the fact that you have been wrong from almost the minute you showed up on this board.

Terminal illness would not be included on the short report because he did not die from a terminal illness. Plain and simple. The ME is not misleading anyone she put on the short report exactly what killed him.

It is not an opinion the ME followed the law and stop thinking the Nelson family who did not have enough pocket change to bury him ( which is not anyone's business) would be able to get a Medical Examiner to lie on the report.

It would not matter anyway because Tyka is now telling or going to be telling all so what would be the point of getting the ME to change anything.

Get off of the drug addict angle and let it go. He was taking pain meds because he was in fucking pain from illness. My guess is joint pain and whatever else was killing him. What are you going to say when we find out what he was ill from that it is all still being made up.

I'm clueless now?! lol Says the person who talks in rambling non-sequiturs! barely if ever coherent! If only your own posts made sense. You shouldn't drop out of school, bc it reflects in your I.Q.

Maybe you're not aware, fentanyl is often given to people in palliative care. Let's assume P had terminal illness....(I don't believe he did)

ME recognises terminal condition but decides to exclude it from mention. By doing so, ME is going off working assumption P was taking fentanyl IN SPITE OF terminal illness.

I'm saying the likelier working assumption, imo, is P was taking fentanyl BECAUSE OF terminal illness. It's worthy of inclusion on the form, bc if he hadn't been terminally ill, why the OD on fentanyl? The number 1 drug used for people with terminal illnesses remember is fentanyl.

So just like with accidental OD vs suicide theory, ME has no proof. She's not clairvoyant. And neither am I. Assuming P had terminal illness then, the ME is making a working assumption it had nothing to do with his fentanyl use. Get your head around that, bc she is not Nostradamus! The ME is not a mindreader. And neither are you laura.

Experts get things wrong- including medical examiners- and are duly corrected at later date. Links were provided in another orger's posts recently, which if you had bothered to read, you would realise by now.

Love how you keep accusing me of going down the drug addict angle. And how you misinterpreted 'what might actually make more sense' remark. Proof once again, you're not paying attention. So this post may be for the benefit of others.

fortuneandserendipity said:

laurarichardson said:

laurarichardson said:

—The ME is not going off a assumption and did not make a mistake. She listed what he died from on the short report. If he had other issues it would be on the long report which we are not going to see. It does not matter because a terminal illness did not kill him. You can keep going on and on with your nonsense and insults but you are embarrassing yourself and need to go back to wherever you came from with your bullshit. You are wrong and have been from the beginning. I and a few others have additional info about this situation and we can take that info and use what Tyka said to actually see the stiuation for what it was and not the drug angle nonsense.

You need to look up the word 'fact'. Facts are unequivocal - they never change over time. ME's reports are often revised in light of new information. You think all 'expert' opinion is infallible and set in stone. The joke is on you, bc it shows how little you know in broader terms what goes on in the world.

You believe in both points below

1) P died of accidental OD from fentanyl. He didn't die from intentionally OD'ing on fentanyl.

Of this the ME is 100% certain.

2) (assuming P has terminal illness). His terminal illness in no way precipitated his fentanyl OD.

Of this the ME is 100% certain.

Facts are 100% indisputable. Good luck trying to argue that the ME was 100% certain. No Medical Examiner in these circumstances could be.

laurarichardson said:

I and a few others have additional info about this situation and we can take that info and use what Tyka said to actually see the stiuation for what it was and not the drug angle nonsense.

Your 'additional info' is based on hearsay. It's conjecture at its worst.

For example, Andre Cymone was not informed by Tyka Nelson that P was close to death or terminally ill. He's been asked and in response didn't corroborate the story. So whatever Tyka may have said to him, it wasn't that. In fact, noone's gone on record saying they knew P was dying other than Tyka.

So it will be interesting to see how you 'take that info' and use it to verify your confirmation bias about P's 'terminal illness' Facts are facts remember. And all we've got at present is a cryptic conversation with brother which is light on facts.

fortuneandserendipity said:

laurarichardson said:

I and a few others have additional info about this situation and we can take that info and use what Tyka said to actually see the stiuation for what it was and not the drug angle nonsense.

Your 'additional info' is based on hearsay. It's conjecture at its worst.

For example, Andre Cymone was not informed by Tyka Nelson that P was close to death or terminally ill. He's been asked and in response didn't corroborate the story. So whatever Tyka may have said to him, it wasn't that. In fact, noone's gone on record saying they knew P was dying other than Tyka.

So it will be interesting to see how you 'take that info' and use it to verify your confirmation bias about P's 'terminal illness' Facts are facts remember. And all we've got at present is a cryptic conversation with brother which is light on facts.

Hey, F&S: PREACH!!! You're HOT today.

fortuneandserendipity said:

laurarichardson said:

—The ME is not going off a assumption and did not make a mistake. She listed what he died from on the short report. If he had other issues it would be on the long report which we are not going to see. It does not matter because a terminal illness did not kill him. You can keep going on and on with your nonsense and insults but you are embarrassing yourself and need to go back to wherever you came from with your bullshit. You are wrong and have been from the beginning. I and a few others have additional info about this situation and we can take that info and use what Tyka said to actually see the stiuation for what it was and not the drug angle nonsense.

You need to look up the word 'fact'. Facts are unequivocal - they never change over time. ME's reports are often revised in light of new information. You think all 'expert' opinion is infallible and set in stone. The joke is on you, bc it shows how little you know in broader terms what goes on in the world.

You believe in both points below

1) P died of accidental OD from fentanyl. He didn't die from intentionally OD'ing on fentanyl.

Of this the ME is 100% certain.

2) (assuming P has terminal illness). His terminal illness in no way precipitated his fentanyl OD.

Of this the ME is 100% certain.

Facts are 100% indisputable. Good luck trying to argue that the ME was 100% certain. No Medical Examiner in these circumstances could be.

Agree, but how can the ME know that for certain? I mean that he did not OD intentionally? Because there was no suicide letter? Or was it because of how he was found, which could possibly lead her to realize he was in fact seeking help, desorientated, whatever on that elevator?
However, the dose was letal and it has been discussed before that there was no way he could have put on his clothes, even backwards, and rush to seek help after taking what he did...

MMJas said:

Bodhitheblackdog said:

precioux said:

laurarichardson said:

fortuneandserendipity said:

I'm clueless now?! lol Says the person who talks in rambling non-sequiturs! barely if ever coherent! If only your own posts made sense. You shouldn't drop out of school, bc it reflects in your I.Q.

Maybe you're not aware, fentanyl is often given to people in palliative care. Let's assume P had terminal illness....(I don't believe he did)

ME recognises terminal condition but decides to exclude it from mention. By doing so, ME is going off working assumption P was taking fentanyl IN SPITE OF terminal illness.

I'm saying the likelier working assumption, imo, is P was taking fentanyl BECAUSE OF terminal illness. It's worthy of inclusion on the form, bc if he hadn't been terminally ill, why the OD on fentanyl? The number 1 drug used for people with terminal illnesses remember is fentanyl.

So just like with accidental OD vs suicide theory, ME has no proof. She's not clairvoyant. And neither am I. Assuming P had terminal illness then, the ME is making a working assumption it had nothing to do with his fentanyl use. Get your head around that, bc she is not Nostradamus! The ME is not a mindreader. And neither are you laura.

Experts get things wrong- including medical examiners- and are duly corrected at later date. Links were provided in another orger's posts recently, which if you had bothered to read, you would realise by now.

Love how you keep accusing me of going down the drug addict angle. And how you misinterpreted 'what might actually make more sense' remark. Proof once again, you're not paying attention. So this post may be for the benefit of others.

—The ME is not going off a assumption and did not make a mistake. She listed what he died from on the short report. If he had other issues it would be on the long report which we are not going to see. It does not matter because a terminal illness did not kill him. You can keep going on and on with your nonsense and insults but you are embarrassing yourself and need to go back to wherever you came from with your bullshit. You are wrong and have been from the beginning. I and a few others have additional info about this situation and we can take that info and use what Tyka said to actually see the stiuation for what it was and not the drug angle nonsense.

But how is it that you have additional information about the situation and cannot/will not share with the fam> here? You are one of Prince's biggest supporters and I would've thought that you would want the truth out now...interesting. Are you writing a book too?

I hope this information that you have is in no way related to the chemtrail bullshit or murder because if it is, that would be grounds for dismissal.

Menes said:

laurarichardson said:

fortuneandserendipity said: —The ME is not going off a assumption and did not make a mistake. She listed what he died from on the short report. If he had other issues it would be on the long report which we are not going to see. It does not matter because a terminal illness did not kill him. You can keep going on and on with your nonsense and insults but you are embarrassing yourself and need to go back to wherever you came from with your bullshit. You are wrong and have been from the beginning. I and a few others have additional info about this situation and we can take that info and use what Tyka said to actually see the stiuation for what it was and not the drug angle nonsense.

But how is it that you have additional information about the situation and cannot/will not share with the fam> here? You are one of Prince's biggest supporters and I would've thought that you would want the truth out now...interesting. Are you writing a book too?

I hope this information that you have is in no way related to the chemtrail bullshit or murder because if it is, that would be grounds for dismissal.

Oh my god I forgot about these conspiracy theories

ThatWhiteDude said:

precioux said:

No, Bodi-F&S is delusional. It is not a fact,rather speculation that P had a terminal disease. And even if he did,it did not directly or indirectly cause his death. It's that simple. And regardless of what fentanyl is prescribed for, it is IRRELEVANT, as the fentanyl he ingested was part of a combination in an illicit pill with no medical ties to prince. Period.

But F&S didn't say that P had a terminal illnes

Thanks White Dude. At first Precioux had me thinkig I was confused but I carefully reviewed everything and F&S never said Prince had a terminal illness...so my cheering her on stands!

Bodhitheblackdog said:

ThatWhiteDude said:

precioux said: But F&S didn't say that P had a terminal illnes

Thanks White Dude. At first Precioux had me thinkig I was confused but I carefully reviewed everything and F&S never said Prince had a terminal illness...so my cheering her on stands!

You're welcome Yes, she's great!

I'm having a bit of a brain freeze. The Autopsy report says : Time of death: 10:07 am on April 21, 2016. I assume the paramedics made that call on site.

Prince was found unresponsive at 09:43 am on April 21st, 2016. I assume by KJ and others.

How is it the ME was not able to quantify a better time of death? It can't be 10:07 am.

Did Prince OD that morning or the night before? Surely she/they would know that?

Maybe I missed something?

Menes said:

I'm having a bit of a brain freeze. The Autopsy report says : Time of death: 10:07 am on April 21, 2016. I assume the paramedics made that call on site.

Prince was found unresponsive at 09:43 am on April 21st, 2016. I assume by KJ and others.

How is it the ME was not able to quantify a better time of death? It can't be 10:07 am.

Did Prince OD that morning or the night before? Surely she/they would know that?

Maybe I missed something?

I don't know that it was ever official, but there was word out there that he could have passed up to 6 hours before he was found.

Menes said:

I'm having a bit of a brain freeze. The Autopsy report says : Time of death: 10:07 am on April 21, 2016. I assume the paramedics made that call on site.

Prince was found unresponsive at 09:43 am on April 21st, 2016. I assume by KJ and others.

How is it the ME was not able to quantify a better time of death? It can't be 10:07 am.

Did Prince OD that morning or the night before? Surely she/they would know that?

Maybe I missed something?

I think it's because they can't call an official time of death until an official gets there. Maybe the paramedics aren't qualified to call it.