My mama always told me to - 'follow my first intuition'.

KIRK!

PeteSilas said:

kirk what? murdered him intentionally? I definitely think he's gonna be in trouble somewhere down the line. Conrad Murray ended up in prison and Elvis' dr. feelgood ended up on trial but it took a couple years for that, he beat the rap but eventually, they took away his license permanently. Legal system is slow as shit, anyone that' ever had to deal with it knows it goes on it's own timetable. What I wonder is why people don't leave the country more often, if I was cosby, i'd stuff all my money in a suitcase and go to antartica.

MD431Madcat said:

My mama always told me to - 'follow my first intuition'.

KIRK!

laurarichardson said:

laurarichardson said:

sonshine said:

paulludvig said: That would be a hell of a lot better than the crazy directions and speculations that some people derailing these threads. Stick with the facts and stop creating more to the story than there is. So what if he's the poster boy for opiate addiction. Perhaps his story could save lives. Perhaps his story could encourage the overhaul desperately needed in this country for the safe and responsible use of opiates. There's so much work to be done and his death could be a turning point. But not as long as some of the nutjobs on here keep making it about hidden agendas, conspiracy theories, murder plots, and other unrelated garbage that pollutes the org. It's disgusting really and only fuels the negative narrative people assume when someone od's. Dammit people respect the legitimate struggle the man had and embrace it as an opportunity to make the world safer and better. It doesn't matter how many times or how many different ways Laura and others like her spew their s***. She isn't doing her "cause" any good. She isn't doing Prince's memory any good. She's too ignorant or has a tragically self inflated ego that's caused permanent brain damage.

So what if he's the poster boy for opiate addiction The fact that you think this is what he should be remembered for after 40 years of speaks volumes about you.

You do not give a shit about the music or anything but making Prince the poster boy for opiad abuse as if he did nothing else his entire life because that is what the media and the world is going to remember.

What people should be educated about his big Pharma and how they push these meds to be prescribed and doctors who over prescribe them but that would interfere with the money making machine and the media would never go in that direction.

Now if you think this is bullshit we can all see what you are about because this is real shit that is going on and as time goes on we are going to find out what devastating effects these meds had on his health.

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Noone's trying to make him out as a poster boy for addiction. Not on this thread at any rate. And we're not going to find out any more to how opiates may have affected him. Period! What is known has already been discussed. Ad nauseum in fact.

There have also been valid first hand accounts from milnpatrick and one other orger- whose name escapes me. They're in a better position to judge than you, as they've had their own experience.

Further, with a responsible doctor these meds are not taken out of control. You are right about Big Pharma, but a proper caring doctor is not going to push pills on anyone, not to excess. Prince's problem may actually have been the absence of a long term regular doctor.

I know Prince must have been in constant pain, but I'll never believe he committed suicide.

PeteSilas said:

one thing for goddamn sure, prince was never ever publicly sloppy like jim morrison or amy or any of the rest, that's why laura and I might see a little problem with all this. I'm still thinking he just committed suicide because he was sick of the pain, whatever the cause. I still think we don't have any answers, we're just doing more of what we've been doing the past year so I'm skipping most of these posts.

disch said:

Sure, there are judgmental assholes who call lots of people lots of things; such is life (you think that during his life some people didn't call Prince a crazy nutjob, especially during his whole name-change era?)

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But I don't think there's a general pattern of talented celebrities, especially rock stars, being summarily rejected by the public simply because they died a substance-related death. There's just no evidence of that happening (in fact, I'd argue that some rock stars' persona was amplified BECAUSE of their death).

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So of all the things to feel bad about Prince's death -- and there are a lot! -- I don't think mass public rejection of him simply because he had a substance problem is one of them.

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I just simply can't get with the suicide notion because of where and the way he was found. Had he been in bed in his jammies or naked, I might have believed that. But he wasn't. He was dressed in a hurry (either by himself or someone else) but let's go with himself for right now. His clothes being on backward to me indicates he knew something was wrong and just grabbed his clothes and threw them on as he made his way to the elevator, (to seek help) perhaps. He supposedly didn't use a cellphone so maybe he was trying to get to a phone.

laura might be the only one on this thread but lots of people speculated, including some that seemed to know signs of cancer, that he had it. I think it's possible, right now, I still do not believe we are getting the full picture. I think we are getting it a little by little. the further things go, the more we'll find out. If and when kirk or the doctor is charged, they will give any and all justifications they can to excuse their actions and in doing so, we'll probably get a lot more answers.

precioux said:

Me so quick to jump up and down?? Seriously?? You're the one blatantly painting a narrative of "cancer", "high blood pressure" "hep C",etc.- YOU ARE THE ONE coming up with delusional ailments and painting Prince in a really f*cked up light!! I am only trying to do "damage control" with all of your nonsense. If the tabloids would frequent here, your posts would be the FIRST they would cite to add more fuel to the fodder that you SUPPOSEDLY so vehemently oppose! Get a grip,already!! laurarichardson said:

If you were not so quick to jump up and down you would see I just asked that questions.

These meds have multiple uses and we do not have access to his medical records. He was the one who said he had seziures and I have already provided the links to show that Valium can be used for seziures and pain pills can cause seziures.

Pain pills can cause blood pressure to spike and the nausea drug has other uses as well.

Nothing I have asked is out of the realm of possiblity since we do know that prolonged use of pain meds can cause these health issues. I am not sure why some of you are deligthed to know he was addicted but cannot accept that these side effects of these drugs can caused other problems.

Was Prince immune to the side effects? I think it is strange that he wanted to any thing written under Kirk's name as none are anything embarrasing especially since they have multiple uses and he had already been in the pharmacy previously numerous times.

These are just questions it is almost as if some of you have a narrative in your mind and know one is allowed to say anything otherwise.

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to me, the backwards clothes, and now, the u got the look lyrics in his suitcase make it seem like, along with going in the elevator, he was having a little of his known sick humor at our expense, sort of a staged suicide. I'm not definite but i think it's possible. they say most od's happen in bed and really, if he was od'ing, by the time he knew he was in trouble, would he even be able to move? the doctors who've spoken have all said that it's very unusual to find someone in an elevator. But...maybe you guys are right, maybe he was trying to get help. I just don't see it, too many coicidences, and he wasn't stupid, if he'd wanted to really live he could have done a lot of things, a lot. And also, the previous od had nothing to do with fentanyl? is that correct? maybe he meant to die then and the plan was foiled, so he made sure the next time to do it right..also, the turned off security system by a well known paranoid superstar in an era when anyone with the extra money has some cheap security system going on makes no sense. He still had nuts hanging out in the bushes and so on, that would never change for him.

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

PeteSilas said:

one thing for goddamn sure, prince was never ever publicly sloppy like jim morrison or amy or any of the rest, that's why laura and I might see a little problem with all this. I'm still thinking he just committed suicide because he was sick of the pain, whatever the cause. I still think we don't have any answers, we're just doing more of what we've been doing the past year so I'm skipping most of these posts.

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I just simply can't get with the suicide notion because of where and the way he was found. Had he been in bed in his jammies or naked, I might have believed that. But he wasn't. He was dressed in a hurry (either by himself or someone else) but let's go with himself for right now. His clothes being on backward to me indicates he knew something was wrong and just grabbed his clothes and threw them on as he made his way to the elevator, (to seek help) perhaps. He supposedly didn't use a cellphone so maybe he was trying to get to a phone.

Hmmm...?

TYKA - leaving Prince's cremation.. (24 hrs after his death)

yup, wierd and i'm sure she's had plenty of coaching in the meantime not to do those kinds of things. she's not a star, wasn't in that world and she obviously had no conception of having millions of eyes on her. but on the other hand, did you notice it isn't just any bag o' chips but it's "flamin"?

MD431Madcat said:

Hmmm...?

TYKA - leaving Prince's cremation.. (24 hrs after his death)

MD431Madcat said:

PeteSilas said:

to me, the backwards clothes, and now, the u got the look lyrics in his suitcase make it seem like, along with going in the elevator, he was having a little of his known sick humor at our expense, sort of a staged suicide. I'm not definite but i think it's possible. they say most od's happen in bed and really, if he was od'ing, by the time he knew he was in trouble, would he even be able to move? the doctors who've spoken have all said that it's very unusual to find someone in an elevator. But...maybe you guys are right, maybe he was trying to get help. I just don't see it, too many coicidences, and he wasn't stupid, if he'd wanted to really live he could have done a lot of things, a lot. And also, the previous od had nothing to do with fentanyl? is that correct? maybe he meant to die then and the plan was foiled, so he made sure the next time to do it right..also, the turned off security system by a well known paranoid superstar in an era when anyone with the extra money has some cheap security system going on makes no sense. He still had nuts hanging out in the bushes and so on, that would never change for him.

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

I just simply can't get with the suicide notion because of where and the way he was found. Had he been in bed in his jammies or naked, I might have believed that. But he wasn't. He was dressed in a hurry (either by himself or someone else) but let's go with himself for right now. His clothes being on backward to me indicates he knew something was wrong and just grabbed his clothes and threw them on as he made his way to the elevator, (to seek help) perhaps. He supposedly didn't use a cellphone so maybe he was trying to get to a phone.

I don't know. Here we are almost a whole year later and it's STILL just all entirely too fucked up to even be real. I keep hoping one morning I wake up and realize it was all just a very bad dream.

1Sasha said:

Pete, the clothes are what bother me the most. Plus making amends with people he had treated poorly in the past.

a lot of things bother me. what do the backwards clothes mean to you? some say it's some kind of occult sign, some think he was just in a hurry and put on everything backwards. there are just a myriad of strange things, the songs, the opening up, etc.., etc.., that say he knew his days were numbered.

PeteSilas said:

to me, the backwards clothes, and now, the u got the look lyrics in his suitcase make it seem like, along with going in the elevator, he was having a little of his known sick humor at our expense, sort of a staged suicide. I'm not definite but i think it's possible. they say most od's happen in bed and really, if he was od'ing, by the time he knew he was in trouble, would he even be able to move? the doctors who've spoken have all said that it's very unusual to find someone in an elevator. But...maybe you guys are right, maybe he was trying to get help. I just don't see it, too many coicidences, and he wasn't stupid, if he'd wanted to really live he could have done a lot of things, a lot. And also, the previous od had nothing to do with fentanyl? is that correct? maybe he meant to die then and the plan was foiled, so he made sure the next time to do it right..also, the turned off security system by a well known paranoid superstar in an era when anyone with the extra money has some cheap security system going on makes no sense. He still had nuts hanging out in the bushes and so on, that would never change for him.

You just spoke out loud my thoughts on what happened to Prince.

XxAxX said:

Key points that are being missed:

Prince was in fact a sick man. ANYONE who is addicted to opioids, is not capable of saying that they need help. Being an addict is in fact a illness.

The secret was obviously kept by Prince and KJ.

While on the plane, Judith Hill was unintentionally made aware of the secret.

She admitted that after returning from IL with Prince and KJ.....SHE made the call to California to get help....although it was too late.

KJ..... I have know doubt was a very loyal friend...however at some point a loyal friend has to stop saying yes and get help for someone that is not capable of getting help themselves.

The opposite of loyalty is treachery.

Thats the first thing I noticed when this picture started circulating ?

Its o p e n too..

sho she was eating Cheetos while her brother ... ....... ........?

very unsettling

PeteSilas said:

yup, wierd and i'm sure she's had plenty of coaching in the meantime not to do those kinds of things. she's not a star, wasn't in that world and she obviously had no conception of having millions of eyes on her. but on the other hand, did you notice it isn't just any bag o' chips but it's "flamin"?

MD431Madcat said:

Hmmm...?

TYKA - leaving Prince's cremation.. (24 hrs after his death)

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

kmama07 said:

Lovejunky said:

Thats the first thing I noticed when this picture started circulating ?

Its o p e n too..

sho she was eating Cheetos while her brother ... ....... ........?

very unsettling

PeteSilas said:

yup, wierd and i'm sure she's had plenty of coaching in the meantime not to do those kinds of things. she's not a star, wasn't in that world and she obviously had no conception of having millions of eyes on her. but on the other hand, did you notice it isn't just any bag o' chips but it's "flamin"?

I've never seen a picture of her where she is thin. Some people in stressfull times binge eat. What struck me funny was the purse, it looks brand new, not a scratch on it.

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

Lovejunky said:

Thats the first thing I noticed when this picture started circulating ?

Its o p e n too..

sho she was eating Cheetos while her brother ... ....... ........?

very unsettling

PeteSilas said:

yup, wierd and i'm sure she's had plenty of coaching in the meantime not to do those kinds of things. she's not a star, wasn't in that world and she obviously had no conception of having millions of eyes on her. but on the other hand, did you notice it isn't just any bag o' chips but it's "flamin"?

Leave Tyka and her Cheetos alone.

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1Sasha said:

purplegirl00 said:

PeteSilas said:

to me, the backwards clothes, and now, the u got the look lyrics in his suitcase make it seem like, along with going in the elevator, he was having a little of his known sick humor at our expense, sort of a staged suicide. I'm not definite but i think it's possible. they say most od's happen in bed and really, if he was od'ing, by the time he knew he was in trouble, would he even be able to move? the doctors who've spoken have all said that it's very unusual to find someone in an elevator. But...maybe you guys are right, maybe he was trying to get help. I just don't see it, too many coicidences, and he wasn't stupid, if he'd wanted to really live he could have done a lot of things, a lot. And also, the previous od had nothing to do with fentanyl? is that correct? maybe he meant to die then and the plan was foiled, so he made sure the next time to do it right..also, the turned off security system by a well known paranoid superstar in an era when anyone with the extra money has some cheap security system going on makes no sense. He still had nuts hanging out in the bushes and so on, that would never change for him.

You just spoke out loud my thoughts on what happened to Prince.

I may have been the first one to raise possibility of suicide. Can't remember tbh. Got accused of being on a suicide trip by LR... whatever that means. It wasn't one thing that made me think of that tho, there were several coincidences like you say. We only just found out about the u got the look lyrics in the suitcase. Which does seem strange, given how far back the song goes and its popularity. Why would he forget the words? and he had the internet for reference.

Dibblekins said:

Lovejunky said:

kmama07 said:

laurarichardson said: O.M.G. I've tried respecting the fact you are entitled to your opinion. I've tried engaging you in civil debate. I've tried blatantly ignoring your comments. I've tried to get a straight answer from you. Once and for all: where is your raging hatred for a woman you don't even know coming from? Please ...I know I'm not the only one flummoxed by this.

There is no raging Hate here..

Laura is simply asking WHY is Maytes Pll taking never brought into question ?

No one seems bothered that any one else on the Planet takes pills for pain...but Damn...

Prince did and let the whole WORLD throw shade on Him for it !!!!!!!!

Never mind that he was suffering immense pain..something Mayte always seems to address with Doubt !

Where is the compassion for Him in all this ?

I get where you are coming from Laura.....