JudasLChrist said:
If he was suffering withdrawl,how was he able to host a party,go to concerts,ride a bike and so on? The wooh is on the one! | |
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JudasLChrist said:
How much of this is fact considering very little information has been officially released? Paisley Park is in your heart
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rogifan said: JudasLChrist said:
How much of this is fact considering very little information has been officially released? THANK YOU ROGI!!!!! | |
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rogifan said: JudasLChrist said:
How much of this is fact considering very little information has been officially released? To add to this...how many people who are on drugs go to the dr for tests to be told you OD or just took those drugs... Prince did not know he was being given a mislabeled fentanyl laced pill but the person who gave them to Prince knew what they were doing. | |
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I guess the whole point of this thread was lost... Do you think he went to the elevator to get help?? To call someone? To get outside? | |
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paulludvig said: JudasLChrist said:
If he was suffering withdrawl,how was he able to host a party,go to concerts,ride a bike and so on? Agree...or if he was gravely ill he would not have been out and about | |
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IamBryan said: I guess the whole point of this thread was lost... Do you think he went to the elevator to get help?? To call someone? To get outside? We don't know... He could have been trying to get away from whomever was in PP? I can't find it now but Someone on the org said a tour guide mentioned to them where he was headed. I thought it was the garage?? IDK hopefully they see this and respond | |
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All I did was post my little humble opinion and what I believe. | |
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PurpleDiamonds1 said: rogifan said: How much of this is fact considering very little information has been officially released? To add to this...how many people who are on drugs go to the dr for tests to be told you OD or just took those drugs... Prince did not know he was being given a mislabeled fentanyl laced pill but the person who gave them to Prince knew what they were doing. I know nothing which is why I ask questions. So much gets thrown around as fact when it seems it's mostly unconfirmed rumors from anonymous sources. I hate when rumors get thrown around as fact. Paisley Park is in your heart
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I don't think Prince knew he was taking that either nor did he have any idea he would die that night. It still seems like he was going to that elevator to get help. | |
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rogifan said: PurpleDiamonds1 said: To add to this...how many people who are on drugs go to the dr for tests to be told you OD or just took those drugs... Prince did not know he was being given a mislabeled fentanyl laced pill but the person who gave them to Prince knew what they were doing. I know nothing which is why I ask questions. So much gets thrown around as fact when it seems it's mostly unconfirmed rumors from anonymous sources. I hate when rumors get thrown around as fact. With you, I was not going against your post Rogi... Just putting out something that just does not add up and no one has given an answer that changes my mind. It was not supposed to be directed at you. Sorry if you thought that! | |
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twinnies said: Forgot to mention in my previous post that I have often wondered if he were in the elevator because he was going to get help. This whole thing has not made any rational sense at all since day 1. There are too many unanswered questions and too much suspicion. I think Prince was really looking forward to his autobiography coming out. It's sad that he never got to finish it.
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After being dropped home, he immediately took the pain relief on his way to his room to rest for the night ? | |
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First, he did not stay long at that party and did not even play.
Second, going to that concert implied sitting down for the whole length of it and, most importantly, being seen carriying on as if all was fine.
Third, the bike ride (if the images are indeed from that period of time) can be understood as another way of showing all is fine, that even if the tabloids are stating something is wrong, he was, in fact, seen riding a bike around PP, so rumours must be untrue.
For those who say that Prince himself told people to not believe the papers after the Moline incident: the papers only stated the flu. Perhaps he was worried that soon they would state an overdose, because of hospital records, etc. and was making sure nobody would believe the papers once again cause he was, after all, going about his normal business. Prince went to great lengths to be private and keep his personal business away from the public eye. But remeber the paper headlines concerning his baby? There was a rumour that the baby had been born with physical defects. And what did Prince tell Oprah? "It's all good, don't believe everything you read". But the papers had indeed written the truth. So Prince lied. To protect his privacy. | |
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But can you even pretend to be alright if your in serious withdrawl? Wouldn't you be sweating and shaking and throwing up? The wooh is on the one! | |
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MMJas said:
First, he did not stay long at that party and did not even play.
Second, going to that concert implied sitting down for the whole length of it and, most importantly, being seen carriying on as if all was fine.
Third, the bike ride (if the images are indeed from that period of time) can be understood as another way of showing all is fine, that even if the tabloids are stating something is wrong, he was, in fact, seen riding a bike around PP, so rumours must be untrue.
For those who say that Prince himself told people to not believe the papers after the Moline incident: the papers only stated the flu. Perhaps he was worried that soon they would state an overdose, because of hospital records, etc. and was making sure nobody would believe the papers once again cause he was, after all, going about his normal business. Prince went to great lengths to be private and keep his personal business away from the public eye. But remeber the paper headlines concerning his baby? There was a rumour that the baby had been born with physical defects. And what did Prince tell Oprah? "It's all good, don't believe everything you read". But the papers had indeed written the truth. So Prince lied. To protect his privacy. Because it was not any of Opra's fucking business. Once again he said he felt like he raised himself since he was 12 he did not have choice but to not show weakness. Anyway you are going to continue to ignore some glaringly obvious things no matter how many times things are pointed out to you. | |
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paulludvig said:
But can you even pretend to be alright if your in serious withdrawl? Wouldn't you be sweating and shaking and throwing up? --Of course you would be sick as hell. Something else was going with his health people can keep sticking their heads in the sand. | |
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PurpleDiamonds1 said: rogifan said: I know nothing which is why I ask questions. So much gets thrown around as fact when it seems it's mostly unconfirmed rumors from anonymous sources. I hate when rumors get thrown around as fact. With you, I was not going against your post Rogi... Just putting out something that just does not add up and no one has given an answer that changes my mind. It was not supposed to be directed at you. Sorry if you thought that! Nope wasn't thinking that. I might be an odd one here in that 1) I don't think Prince had a long term dependency problem with powerful prescription painkillers and 2) I don't believe he was murdered or something sinister happened. Of course what I think is meaningless. Right now the actual facts don't tell us much other than he clearly was not well and he sided from an accidental overdose of a very powerful painkiller. Oh and a third thing: the guy was a workaholic and even when he wasn't 100% health wise he still worked his ass off. I've listened to most of the P&M shows and his playing and voice were amazing. Whatever problems he was having he was still the consummate professional and gave the audiences that came to see him 100% of his best. 💜 Paisley Park is in your heart
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I basically agree except I think you might be assuming what people think based on what we have reasonable evidence for. I don't think we have reasonable evidence to say how long or with what severity he was dependent on opioids (as many people have discussed here, dependency is not always synonymous with debilitation; many many people are physically dependent but perfectly functional. Several of those people have posted their stories on this site!). But saying we don't have much trustworthy info one way or another about this somewhat complicated medical state (opioid dependency) is not the same as saying "he was dependent for x months" or "x years" or whatever. rogifan said: PurpleDiamonds1 said: With you, I was not going against your post Rogi... Just putting out something that just does not add up and no one has given an answer that changes my mind. It was not supposed to be directed at you. Sorry if you thought that! Nope wasn't thinking that. I might be an odd one here in that 1) I don't think Prince had a long term dependency problem with powerful prescription painkillers and 2) I don't believe he was murdered or something sinister happened. Of course what I think is meaningless. Right now the actual facts don't tell us much other than he clearly was not well and he sided from an accidental overdose of a very powerful painkiller. Oh and a third thing: the guy was a workaholic and even when he wasn't 100% health wise he still worked his ass off. I've listened to most of the P&M shows and his playing and voice were amazing. Whatever problems he was having he was still the consummate professional and gave the audiences that came to see him 100% of his best. 💜 | |
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disch said: I basically agree except I think you might be assuming what people think based on what we have reasonable evidence for. I don't think we have reasonable evidence to say how long or with what severity he was dependent on opioids (as many people have discussed here, dependency is not always synonymous with debilitation; many many people are physically dependent but perfectly functional. Several of those people have posted their stories on this site!). But saying we don't have much trustworthy info one way or another about this somewhat complicated medical state (opioid dependency) is not the same as saying "he was dependent for x months" or "x years" or whatever. rogifan said: Nope wasn't thinking that. I might be an odd one here in that 1) I don't think Prince had a long term dependency problem with powerful prescription painkillers and 2) I don't believe he was murdered or something sinister happened. Of course what I think is meaningless. Right now the actual facts don't tell us much other than he clearly was not well and he sided from an accidental overdose of a very powerful painkiller. Oh and a third thing: the guy was a workaholic and even when he wasn't 100% health wise he still worked his ass off. I've listened to most of the P&M shows and his playing and voice were amazing. Whatever problems he was having he was still the consummate professional and gave the audiences that came to see him 100% of his best. 💜 I agree 100%. Paisley Park is in your heart
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PurpleDiamonds1 said: IamBryan said: I guess the whole point of this thread was lost... Do you think he went to the elevator to get help?? To call someone? To get outside? We don't know... He could have been trying to get away from whomever was in PP? I can't find it now but Someone on the org said a tour guide mentioned to them where he was headed. I thought it was the garage?? IDK hopefully they see this and respond Yes, that was communicated to me when I took my tour. I point blank asked the question and the person told me that no one knows for sure and that the thought was that he was trying to get to his car in the garage. I found that interesting because the media never reported which floor they found him on. [Edited 4/9/17 12:06pm] | |
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Serene777 said: PurpleDiamonds1 said: We don't know... He could have been trying to get away from whomever was in PP? I can't find it now but Someone on the org said a tour guide mentioned to them where he was headed. I thought it was the garage?? IDK hopefully they see this and respond Yes, that was communicated to me when I took my tour. I point blank asked the question and the person told me that no one knows for sure and that the thought was that he was trying to get to his car in the garage. I found that interesting because the media never reported which floor they found him on. [Edited 4/9/17 12:06pm] Was there an emergency button or phone in the elevator? | |
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Serene777 said: PurpleDiamonds1 said: We don't know... He could have been trying to get away from whomever was in PP? I can't find it now but Someone on the org said a tour guide mentioned to them where he was headed. I thought it was the garage?? IDK hopefully they see this and respond Yes, that was communicated to me when I took my tour. I point blank asked the question and the person told me that no one knows for sure and that the thought was that he was trying to get to his car in the garage. I found that interesting because the media never reported which floor they found him on. [Edited 4/9/17 12:06pm] Thanks for responding. I also find that odd they mentioned he was going to his car. After all we were told If Prince took pills he would not be going out for a ride...especially if he took the laced pills, he would have been falling asleep. Seems he was trying to leave and wonder who he might have been trying to get away from... | |
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PurpleDiamonds1 said: Serene777 said: Yes, that was communicated to me when I took my tour. I point blank asked the question and the person told me that no one knows for sure and that the thought was that he was trying to get to his car in the garage. I found that interesting because the media never reported which floor they found him on. [Edited 4/9/17 12:06pm] Thanks for responding. I also find that odd they mentioned he was going to his car. After all we were told If Prince took pills he would not be going out for a ride...especially if he took the laced pills, he would have been falling asleep. Seems he was trying to leave and wonder who he might have been trying to get away from... I considered two things when the person told me this. 1) I thought of all the times I have been sick in the middle of the night and considered just going to the ER or urgent care. 2) this info came from someone who worked at PP and had worked for P for at least 20 years. He did offer a disclaimer that no one knows what really happened, but I know absolutely nothing about opioids--other than googling info. it doesn't sound like his breathing stopped immediately. It's heartbreaking but it may be that the last thing on his mind that night was "something isn't right and I need help." [Edited 4/9/17 15:23pm] [Edited 4/9/17 15:23pm] | |
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After hearing that can't shake the feeling he was trying to leave because someone was there that should not have been. We have heard he did not know about the Cali Drs son Andrew being called into PP...wonder if he went to PP before the time we were told ... | |
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but why was he found with his clothes on backwards?! Not that we'll ever know... | |
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Have read what that implies and doubt Prince did that. agree... Not sure we will know this answer either. Someone needs to be given some truth serum... | |
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