PurpleDiamonds1 said:

oscarchristio777 said:

If we consider that idea.

One thing that doesnt make sense is him being found in an elevator with his clothes on back the front.

Him being in the elevator with clothes on backwards gives the impression he was trying to do something or get somewhere.

If he was intent on breaking on through to the other side why would he suddenly decide to get dressed and go somewhere.

Prince going to the garage to get to his car implies he may have felt the need to get out. Him being found with his clothes on backwards is disturbing, he would not have done that. And if was was going to go to the other side doubt he would have been going down in an elevator. [Edited 4/11/17 9:02am]

The clothes backwards could have been a simple mistake of the "unnamed source". Prince's clothes were custom made, so the source could have gotten the information wrong. I am not keen on Prince' s clothes, but from my understanding, he did not like pockets, which also contradicts the bottle of percocet information. The pants may not have had a zipper. The socks, maybe Prince just put them on inside out accidentally.

From my understanding, the amount of fentanyl would have killed someone 5 times Prince's size or 5 people, I honestly cannot recall the comparison.

I am inclined to believe, that Prince was done whatever he was either doing in the studio, downstairs or in the living quarters. He got in the elvevator (either up or down), took a pill either prior to entry or in the elevator, had zero time to react or get help and unfortunately passed from the pill.

Pure speculation on my end. The clothes leak has bothered me. That was "leaked " for a reason in my opinion. Why? I do not know. Was it to catch up someone who was interviewed already to see if they contradict their story?

If Prince was not dressed when he was found, someone could have covered him with a blanket and not dresss him. It is a frustrating leak to figure out or make sense of.

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

jcurley said:

I dont think that makes him sound like a junky just a harsh reality of the cruelty addiction brings. Prince had conceded to addiction intervention and lets face it we all suspectPrince as being as stubborn as stubborn can be, For him to hand himself over it must have been serious.

Even though the above statement seems harsh I think it's more saying that as an addict this would be the range of emotions he would be going through. I think the "one last time" statement is probably true, though obviously we dont know. It would be human nature to say goodbye to something one last time, we do it with diets all the time, when we know we 're going on a regime the next day.

The irony could be that this was the safest Prince had ever felt taking them due to medical assistance arriving in the morning.

what I would add though and this image upsets me. I can imagine he was also very scared. For anyone to have intervention is bad enough but for someone who controlled every aspect of their world it must have been beyond daunting.

Just typing this makes me want to cry

Prince had no idea the quack Dr Kornfelds son was going to show up...remember Prince was fine it was the drs Attny that stated he was gravely ill and P as said many times was seen out and about including the 20th.

How can a Dr. diagnoise a patient via a phone call to someone else? Dr K has no idea what was going on with Prince other than what he told also if Prince were gravely ill why not have him call 911 or how come his son did not go see Prince that afternoon when his plane landed. If someone is gravely ill that means treatment as soon as possible.

laurarichardson said:

But yet they like to read about it.
Sad some want him to go down with the lies the way the media has implied...and yet those stories don't add up

nelcp777 said:

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

oscarchristio777 said: Prince going to the garage to get to his car implies he may have felt the need to get out. Him being found with his clothes on backwards is disturbing, he would not have done that. And if was was going to go to the other side doubt he would have been going down in an elevator. [Edited 4/11/17 9:02am]

The clothes backwards could have been a simple mistake of the "unnamed source". Prince's clothes were custom made, so the source could have gotten the information wrong. I am not keen on Prince' s clothes, but from my understanding, he did not like pockets, which also contradicts the bottle of percocet information. The pants may not have had a zipper. The socks, maybe Prince just put them on inside out accidentally.

From my understanding, the amount of fentanyl would have killed someone 5 times Prince's size or 5 people, I honestly cannot recall the comparison.

I am inclined to believe, that Prince was done whatever he was either doing in the studio, downstairs or in the living quarters. He got in the elvevator (either up or down), took a pill either prior to entry or in the elevator, had zero time to react or get help and unfortunately passed from the pill.

Pure speculation on my end. The clothes leak has bothered me. That was "leaked " for a reason in my opinion. Why? I do not know. Was it to catch up someone who was interviewed already to see if they contradict their story?

If Prince was not dressed when he was found, someone could have covered him with a blanket and not dresss him. It is a frustrating leak to figure out or make sense of.

I think it was leaked on purpose maybe to catch someone off guard. The pocket thing has bothered me as well. He was not found of pockets and if his pants were turned backwards the pockets would have been inside/out so how would a bottle fit into the pocket.

I also wonder if he was going to his car did he have his keys in his hand or in one of the pockets.

laurarichardson said:

nelcp777 said:

The clothes backwards could have been a simple mistake of the "unnamed source". Prince's clothes were custom made, so the source could have gotten the information wrong. I am not keen on Prince' s clothes, but from my understanding, he did not like pockets, which also contradicts the bottle of percocet information. The pants may not have had a zipper. The socks, maybe Prince just put them on inside out accidentally.

From my understanding, the amount of fentanyl would have killed someone 5 times Prince's size or 5 people, I honestly cannot recall the comparison.

I am inclined to believe, that Prince was done whatever he was either doing in the studio, downstairs or in the living quarters. He got in the elvevator (either up or down), took a pill either prior to entry or in the elevator, had zero time to react or get help and unfortunately passed from the pill.

Pure speculation on my end. The clothes leak has bothered me. That was "leaked " for a reason in my opinion. Why? I do not know. Was it to catch up someone who was interviewed already to see if they contradict their story?

If Prince was not dressed when he was found, someone could have covered him with a blanket and not dresss him. It is a frustrating leak to figure out or make sense of.

I think it was leaked on purpose maybe to catch someone off guard. The pocket thing has bothered me as well. He was not found of pockets and if his pants were turned backwards the pockets would have been inside/out so how would a bottle fit into the pocket.

I also wonder if he was going to his car did he have his keys in his hand or in one of the pockets.

Laura,

I concur with you. The leak seemed to be fishing. The police know more than we do. Sometimes, looking in between the lines helps.

laurarichardson said:

MMJas said:

How so? Wasn't she a part of the official tribute? She danced on that. And she did the memorial with Mani. I actually think Mayte learned a few things off Mani (after the divorce records came out she would find out about her stuff being burned, so Mani probably told her in advance) during that time of superficial closeness and has since withdrawn from a friendship with her. Hence Mani's recent pic on FB. I mean... Hum? Hence Mani with Jill Jones, Appolonia and all the other ladies from the past.

She was not at the wake at Paisley Park. Sheila E invited her to the BET Memorial and Mani was the one that organized the L.A. Memorial.

She was at the Family Memorial in August 2016 at PP.

nelcp777 said:

laurarichardson said:

I think it was leaked on purpose maybe to catch someone off guard. The pocket thing has bothered me as well. He was not found of pockets and if his pants were turned backwards the pockets would have been inside/out so how would a bottle fit into the pocket.

I also wonder if he was going to his car did he have his keys in his hand or in one of the pockets.

Laura,

I concur with you. The leak seemed to be fishing. The police know more than we do. Sometimes, looking in between the lines helps.

I honestly believe they suspect somone but can't prove it. It could even be more to it than someone procuring the drugs for him.

Here in D.C a women vanished and her family was all over the media saying it was her boyfriend. The police said there was not enough evidence despite him being the last person she was seen with it.

It became a cold case. Now 8 years later a new dectecitve found out the boyfriend's first wife vanished 30 years ago and that he had a rack of domestic violence cases against him .

The detective used this information to work the case and they finally arrested this guy this week.

This gentlemen was the only supspect but the evidence just was not enough 8 years ago.

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

laurarichardson said:

She was not at the wake at Paisley Park. Sheila E invited her to the BET Memorial and Mani was the one that organized the L.A. Memorial.

She was at the Family Memorial in August 2016 at PP.

But she was not at the first one and I think she got into the August one because of Sheila

laurarichardson said:

nelcp777 said:

Laura,

I concur with you. The leak seemed to be fishing. The police know more than we do. Sometimes, looking in between the lines helps.

I honestly believe they suspect somone but can't prove it. It could even be more to it than someone procuring the drugs for him.

Here in D.C a women vanished and her family was all over the media saying it was her boyfriend. The police said there was not enough evidence despite him being the last person she was seen with it.

It became a cold case. Now 8 years later a new dectecitve found out the boyfriend's first wife vanished 30 years ago and that he had a rack of domestic violence cases against him .

The detective used this information to work the case and they finally arrested this guy this week.

This gentlemen was the only supspect but the evidence just was not enough 8 years ago.

I understand and agree with you. Suspicion alone is not enough to issue a warrant.

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

laurarichardson said:

She was not at the wake at Paisley Park. Sheila E invited her to the BET Memorial and Mani was the one that organized the L.A. Memorial.

She was at the Family Memorial in August 2016 at PP.

I always found it odd that Manuela informed Mayte of Prince's passing. But Mayte has stated she had heard he was not doing well.

Who was informing her Prince was not doing well? Who informed Manuela? Nothing sinister or bad. If these little dots can be connected, then maybe more light will shine on the issues?

laurarichardson said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

She was at the Family Memorial in August 2016 at PP.

But she was not at the first one and I think she got into the August one because of Sheila

Im not a fan of Mayte's but I think people should know the facts and not just speculate as to what the facts are. I also saw the program from the Family Memorial in August and it contained a photo of his wedding to M1.

[Edited 4/11/17 9:56am]

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

laurarichardson said:

But she was not at the first one and I think she got into the August one because of Sheila

Im not a fan of Mayte's but I think people should know the facts and not just speculate as to what the facts are. I also saw the program from the Family Memorial in August and it contained a photo of his wedding to M1.

[Edited 4/11/17 9:56am]

but that is the second memorial not the first and there are stories that she came to the first one acting a fool. I know people on here do not want to hear it or see it but there are screen shots from her IG were she is being less than nice and some of the people on her team are making threats and racists comments.

I do not believe for one minute she knew about anything going on in P's life maybe she wishes she did but I do not think she was involved with him at all.

[Edited 4/11/17 11:07am]

Strive said:

oscarchristio777 said:

If we consider that idea.

One thing that doesnt make sense is him being found in an elevator with his clothes on back the front.

Him being in the elevator with clothes on backwards gives the impression he was trying to do something or get somewhere.

If he was intent on breaking on through to the other side why would he suddenly decide to get dressed and go somewhere.

It's easy to put your clothes on backwards when you're just sliding them on and the elevator could've been his final message to the world. He knew suicide was wrong, he knew he faltered and placing himself in the elevator, a thing he used throughout his career to represent the devil, for his final moments on earth...

...

I really hope he didn't think he was going to hell or that he failed God in some way, if his death was his (pain-riddled/irrational) decision.

[Edited 4/11/17 6:11am]

We dont know enough to be sure about anything yet, but personally I dont feel it was suicide.

I dont feel Prince was trying to make some statement by putting himself in an elevator with clothes on backwards to try and say something.

nelcp777 said:

Had heard that too. It was just recently we heard Mayte say he was not doing well..Kim his hairdresser did not say that at all and she stated on her podcast interview she saw him 2 weeks before he died. Think Kim would have known more than Mayte.

laurarichardson said:

Yes, that right there is why this seems so suspicious. They had no business being at PP with Prince in the first place.
If DrK was told someone was gravely ill but decided to wait then send your son to not treat but provide treatment for someone else to administer?? That sounds like a cover up to say my kid knew better than to... So someone else was going to do this????? That is a real statement from the article in the Startrib. Just WTf

laurarichardson said:

disch said:

you mean people shoud use the time they would have spent posting dozens of comments rehashing the same speculations/conspiracy theories/"but it just doesn't make sense!" comments to do something else (such as listen to Prince's music, enjoy his videos, discuss his life's work etc.)? But if people "got over it" like that -- WHO WOULD CRACK THE CASE?

Those of you who do not give a fuck about cracking the case should move on. Common sense should tell you until it is solved speculation is going to contiune. Now carrying on with your complaining and making Prince the poster boy for pain pill abuse because he did nothing else for 40 years of his music carreer but pop pain pills.

.

Word.

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

nelcp777 said:

I always found it odd that Manuela informed Mayte of Prince's passing. But Mayte has stated she had heard he was not doing well.

Who was informing her Prince was not doing well? Who informed Manuela? Nothing sinister or bad. If these little dots can be connected, then maybe more light will shine on the issues?

Had heard that too. It was just recently we heard Mayte say he was not doing well..Kim his hairdresser did not say that at all and she stated on her podcast interview she saw him 2 weeks before he died. Think Kim would have known more than Mayte.

Notice that Mayte never tells who these someone's are. Who in P's camp would be reaching out to her? So many people who knew him are saying this is coming out of left field so why would she have the inside scoop.

nelcp777 said:

Good points...
I also agree that the clothes on backwards may have been leaked to get more info from whomever might know more.
We have been assuming he took those pills but we really don't know if he was killed by fentanyl gas and the pills were just a cover up...

laurarichardson said:

Think she wants the inside scoop...but here is something else, it seems P's family, including Tyka have included Mayte...remember the memorial program had a wedding picture of Prince and Mayte, I did not see one of Prince and Mani and Mayte was also at the family tribute ...

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

laurarichardson said:

Notice that Mayte never tells who these someone's are. Who in P's camp would be reaching out to her? So many people who knew him are saying this is coming out of left field so why would she have the inside scoop.

Think she wants the inside scoop...but here is something else, it seems P's family, including Tyka have included Mayte...remember the memorial program had a wedding picture of Prince and Mayte, I did not see one of Prince and Mani and Mayte was also at the family tribute ...

Well I wonder how they feel about her now that the book is out.

laurarichardson said:

IDK...I wondered why they seemed like they were close before??

Sometimes silence speaks volumes. 😯
After all..... they have been awfully chatty 'bout lots of other stuff...😁

zenarose said:

You got that right Zena!

I was reading some clipped paragraphs from Mayte's book,
and I believe she also states in the book
'his clothes were on backwards, and socks turned inside out (backwards)'

nelcp777 said:

I always found it odd that Manuela informed Mayte of Prince's passing. But Mayte has stated she had heard he was not doing well.

Who was informing her Prince was not doing well? Who informed Manuela? Nothing sinister or bad. If these little dots can be connected, then maybe more light will shine on the issues?

Who else but DrFunkenberry.

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

nelcp777 said:

I always found it odd that Manuela informed Mayte of Prince's passing. But Mayte has stated she had heard he was not doing well.

Who was informing her Prince was not doing well? Who informed Manuela? Nothing sinister or bad. If these little dots can be connected, then maybe more light will shine on the issues?

Had heard that too. It was just recently we heard Mayte say he was not doing well..Kim his hairdresser did not say that at all and she stated on her podcast interview she saw him 2 weeks before he died. Think Kim would have known more than Mayte.

Come on... regardless of who told her or how she found out... we all know Prince was not doing well by his physical appearance. His cook said he was feeling ill for months before his passing. Of course his associates are going to keep up the narrative of him looking fine and all being well. They have to. No way will they allow for speculation, they were well taught by their boss and friend. So no, nobody from his camp is going to say he did not look well.

Mumio said:

nelcp777 said:

I always found it odd that Manuela informed Mayte of Prince's passing. But Mayte has stated she had heard he was not doing well.

Who was informing her Prince was not doing well? Who informed Manuela? Nothing sinister or bad. If these little dots can be connected, then maybe more light will shine on the issues?

Who else but DrFunkenberry.

Thanks, I forgot about him.

Mumio said:

nelcp777 said:

I always found it odd that Manuela informed Mayte of Prince's passing. But Mayte has stated she had heard he was not doing well.

Who was informing her Prince was not doing well? Who informed Manuela? Nothing sinister or bad. If these little dots can be connected, then maybe more light will shine on the issues?

Who else but DrFunkenberry.

Dr. Funkenberry kept in touch with Manuela but he has also said he knew nothing about P's health.

I think I missed a critical piece of information when I read the New York Times 4/7 article on unsolved mysteries in Prince's death one year later.

The link is below to the article along with direct quotes from Dr. Johnson.

I don't remember reading anything previously that stated P. had opiod prescriptions in the past.

“Prince’s death has raised the profile of the opioid crisis even further,” said Dr. Chris Johnson, chairman of the Minnesota Department of Human Services Opioid Prescribing Work Group.

“Even though Prince’s final dose and exit was illicit,” Dr. Johnson said, “the reason he needed it was because of the years of prescriptions that got him on that path.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/07/arts/music/princes-death-one-year-later-unsolved-mysteries.html

mnfriend said:

I was reading some clipped paragraphs from Mayte's book, and I believe she also states in the book 'his clothes were on backwards, and socks turned inside out (backwards)'

"socks turned inside out (backwards)'

This was in the media and make no sense whatsoever. What are the chances even if you are ill that all of your clothes are going to be on backward even your socks?