independent and unofficial
Prince fan community
Welcome! Sign up or enter username and password to remember me
Forum jump
Forums > Prince: Music and More > * autopsy/investigation updates here
« Previous topic  Next topic »
Page 45 of 50 « First<414243444546474849>Last »
  New topic   Printable     (Log in to 'subscribe' to this topic)
Reply #1320 posted 05/18/16 2:39pm

MMJas

avatar

Giovanni777 said:

Hey folks... I haven't posted much lately. I'm still going through my own "process". He influenced me in countless ways.

.

I just want all of you to think about what it means that he died in Minnesota, at Paisley Park. We need to be very thankful toward the state of Minnesota for handling this as professionally as they have.

.

If Prince died in L.A., we would have leaked death scene photos, autopsy photos, etc.

.

I believe that they really are "leaving no stone unturned" in the investigation, and I also believe they have MUCH respect for Prince.

I agree.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #1321 posted 05/18/16 3:48pm

starkitty

norsknurse said:

New article on Kirk Johnson mentions Prince.org
https://www.yahoo.com/new...16394.html


we're (McD's) a citeable news source

cool, cool
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #1322 posted 05/18/16 4:15pm

simm0061

avatar

Giovanni777 said:

Hey folks... I haven't posted much lately. I'm still going through my own "process". He influenced me in countless ways.

.

I just want all of you to think about what it means that he died in Minnesota, at Paisley Park. We need to be very thankful toward the state of Minnesota for handling this as professionally as they have.

.

If Prince died in L.A., we would have leaked death scene photos, autopsy photos, etc.

.

I believe that they really are "leaving no stone unturned" in the investigation, and I also believe they have MUCH respect for Prince.

Yep. I was very proud when the sherrif told off the media by saying "To you he's a celebrity. To us he was a neighbor and member of the community. And we're going to give him the respect and dignity he deserves."

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #1323 posted 05/18/16 4:54pm

morningsong

Giovanni777 said:

Hey folks... I haven't posted much lately. I'm still going through my own "process". He influenced me in countless ways.

.

I just want all of you to think about what it means that he died in Minnesota, at Paisley Park. We need to be very thankful toward the state of Minnesota for handling this as professionally as they have.

.

If Prince died in L.A., we would have leaked death scene photos, autopsy photos, etc.

.

I believe that they really are "leaving no stone unturned" in the investigation, and I also believe they have MUCH respect for Prince.




You know, I hadn't considered what would this have been like if this had of happened while he was out on the road. *shudder*

Thanks for small blessings, I suppose.


  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #1324 posted 05/18/16 5:21pm

morningsong

Buprenorphine (BYOO-pre-NOR-feen) ('bu-pre-'nor-feen) is an opioid medication used to treat opioid addiction in the privacy of a physician’s office.1 Buprenorphine can be dispensed for take home use, by prescription.1 This in addition to buprenorphine’s pharmacological and safety profile makes it an attractive treatment for patients addicted to opioids.2

Buprenorphine is different from other opioids in that it is a partial opioid agonist3. This property of buprenorphine may allow for;

  • less euphoria and physical dependence*3
  • lower potential for misuse*3
  • a ceiling on opioid effects*3
  • relatively mild withdrawal profile*3

At the appropriate dose buprenorphine treatment may:

  • Suppress symptoms of opioid withdrawal2
  • Decrease cravings for opioids2
  • Reduce illicit opioid use2
  • Block the effects of other opioids2
  • Help patients stay in treatment2

* When compared with full opioid agonists (such as oxycodone and heroin)3

Buprenorphine ('bu-pre-'nôr-feen) (C29H41NO4) is a semi-synthetic opioid derived from thebaine, an alkaloid of the poppy Papaver somniferum. Buprenorphine is an opioid partial agonist. This means that, although Buprenorphine is an opioid, and thus can produce typical opioid effects and side effects such as euphoria and respiratory depression, its maximal effects are less than those of full agonists like heroin and methadone. At low doses Buprenorphine produces sufficient agonist effect to enable opioid-addicted individuals to discontinue the misuse of opioids without experiencing withdrawal symptoms. The agonist effects of Buprenorphine increase linearly with increasing doses of the drug until it reaches a plateau and no longer continues to increase with further increases in dosage. This is called the "ceiling effect." Thus, Buprenorphine carries a lower risk of abuse, addiction, and side effects compared to full opioid agonists. In fact, Buprenorphine can actually block the effects of full opioid agonists and can precipitate withdrawal symptoms if administered to an opioid-addicted individual while a full agonist is in the bloodstream. This is the result of the high affinity Buprenorphine has to the opioid receptors. The affinity refers to the strength of attraction and likelihood of a substance to bind with the opioid receptors. Buprenorphine has a higher affinity than other opioids and as such will compete for the receptor and win. It will "knock off" other opioids and occupy that receptor blocking other opioids from attaching to it. If there is enough Buprenorphine to knock the opioids off the receptors but not enough to occupy and satisfy the receptors, withdrawal symptoms can occur; in which case the treatment is more Buprenorphine until withdrawal symptoms disappear.

In October 2002, the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) approved Subutex® (buprenorphine hydrochloride) and Suboxone® tablets (buprenorphine hydrochloride and naloxone hydrochloride) for the treatment of opiate dependence(addiction). On October 9, 2009 the FDA approved a generic version of Subutex. In 2011 Subutex (brand name) was discontinued, in 2012 Suboxone (brand name) tablets were discontinued and replaced with Suboxone Film. In February 25, 2013 the FDA approved Suboxone generics. On July 6, 2013 Zubsolv (BupNx) sublingual tablets were FDA approved and became available in September 2013. In November 2014 Bunavail (bup/nx) buccal film became the latest brand name bup/nx product to hit the market.

Suboxone, contains both buprenorphine and the opiate antagonist naloxone. Naloxone has been added to Suboxone to guard against intravenous abuse of buprenorphine by individuals physically dependent on other opiates. If misused by injection, the naloxone (along with the buprenorphine itself) will help cause immediate withdrawal in physically dependent people, however when taken sublingually, as indicated, the naloxone is not significantly absorbed and is considered clinically insignificant.

To find treatment go to www.TreatmentMatch.org




  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #1325 posted 05/18/16 6:20pm

muleFunk

avatar

Giovanni777 said:

Hey folks... I haven't posted much lately. I'm still going through my own "process". He influenced me in countless ways.

.

I just want all of you to think about what it means that he died in Minnesota, at Paisley Park. We need to be very thankful toward the state of Minnesota for handling this as professionally as they have.

.

If Prince died in L.A., we would have leaked death scene photos, autopsy photos, etc.

.

I believe that they really are "leaving no stone unturned" in the investigation, and I also believe they have MUCH respect for Prince.

I agree with this 100%.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #1326 posted 05/18/16 7:07pm

tmo1965

Rebeljuice said:

RachB65 said:

lwr001 said: This is a bit confusing if he had percs AND Suboxone in his system already..Why would Kornfeld fly across the country with Suboxone on an 'life saving mission'and have a local doctor administer it, if Prince already had some? To me that makes little sense. Unless Kornfeld was there to try n talk to Prince and get him to come back to Cali for treatment. And the other doctor had already prescribed Suboxone(or got it for him in another way) to Prince. Its never been made public what those scripts were that the doc prescribed and the cops found, besides painkillers..Maybe the big issue here is that he was somehow taking Suboxone illegally and he needed to get somewhere, like another state where it was easier to legally obtain plus high quality treatment for dependency, pain management and addiction....

Maybe Kornfeld arrived in MN earlier than stated and actually visited PP, in secret, in the early hours of the morning, gave Prince the meds and then went off to shower and have breakfast at his hotel where he was later picked up by the PP staff. Sworn to secrecy by Prince, he never said a word to the PP staff of his earlier visit. And then they found Prince dead.... Time to call in the lawyer!

I read somewhere that some of Prince's staff picked up Kornfeld from the airport then dropped him off at a hotel and picked him up again and brought him to Paisley Park.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #1327 posted 05/18/16 7:46pm

Eileen

tmo1965 said:

I read somewhere that some of Prince's staff picked up Kornfeld from the airport then dropped him off at a hotel and picked him up again and brought him to Paisley Park.


Yes, that's what his attorney reported during the press conference. It would be a self-destructive act for either to lie to the press about staff doing the airport pickup after all involved had already been questioned by law enforcement.

Also recall Kornfeld did not seem to have the address to Paisley Park for the 911 operator.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #1328 posted 05/18/16 9:25pm

surelyafan

Eileen said:

tmo1965 said:

I read somewhere that some of Prince's staff picked up Kornfeld from the airport then dropped him off at a hotel and picked him up again and brought him to Paisley Park.


Yes, that's what his attorney reported during the press conference. It would be a self-destructive act for either to lie to the press about staff doing the airport pickup after all involved had already been questioned by law enforcement.

Also recall Kornfeld did not seem to have the address to Paisley Park for the 911 operator.

Why was Kornfeld the person who called 911? If he didn't have the address to PP, he probably didn't know his way around inside so someone would have been escorting him. Why didn't he ask someone what the address was (something like that would have been heard on on the 911 report).

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #1329 posted 05/19/16 12:44am

TheEnglishGent

avatar

surelyafan said:

Eileen said:


Yes, that's what his attorney reported during the press conference. It would be a self-destructive act for either to lie to the press about staff doing the airport pickup after all involved had already been questioned by law enforcement.

Also recall Kornfeld did not seem to have the address to Paisley Park for the 911 operator.

Why was Kornfeld the person who called 911? If he didn't have the address to PP, he probably didn't know his way around inside so someone would have been escorting him. Why didn't he ask someone what the address was (something like that would have been heard on on the 911 report).


Apparently two staff members were with him but were too distressed to call 911. I was pretty distressed when I found out and I didn't even know the guy. Can you imagine seeing that elevator open and discovering his body just slumped there? Kornfeld probably called 911 before they would have been able to get their phones out of their pockets/bags/whatever. I would wager that the 911 call happened pretty quickly.

RIP sad
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #1330 posted 05/19/16 5:19am

babynoz

Giovanni777 said:

Hey folks... I haven't posted much lately. I'm still going through my own "process". He influenced me in countless ways.

.

I just want all of you to think about what it means that he died in Minnesota, at Paisley Park. We need to be very thankful toward the state of Minnesota for handling this as professionally as they have.

.

If Prince died in L.A., we would have leaked death scene photos, autopsy photos, etc.

.

I believe that they really are "leaving no stone unturned" in the investigation, and I also believe they have MUCH respect for Prince.



I've said the same over and over.

As I stated on another thread, (maybe this one too, who knows at this point), this isn't LAPD or NYPD. I felt a little reassurance from the Sheriff's press conference that they will do their very best for Prince. I am glad that their priority is to take their time and get it right.

The Sheriff also said three times that they will do all they can to protect Prince's privacy and dignity as much as possible in the process...I'm grateful for that too.


Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #1331 posted 05/19/16 6:31am

blue22

avatar

babynoz said:

Giovanni777 said:

Hey folks... I haven't posted much lately. I'm still going through my own "process". He influenced me in countless ways.

.

I just want all of you to think about what it means that he died in Minnesota, at Paisley Park. We need to be very thankful toward the state of Minnesota for handling this as professionally as they have.

.

If Prince died in L.A., we would have leaked death scene photos, autopsy photos, etc.

.

I believe that they really are "leaving no stone unturned" in the investigation, and I also believe they have MUCH respect for Prince.



I've said the same over and over.

As I stated on another thread, (maybe this one too, who knows at this point), this isn't LAPD or NYPD. I felt a little reassurance from the Sheriff's press conference that they will do their very best for Prince. I am glad that their priority is to take their time and get it right.

The Sheriff also said three times that they will do all they can to protect Prince's privacy and dignity as much as possible in the process...I'm grateful for that too.


Me too. They sure are taking their time. I can't believe he'll be gone for a month on Saturday.

time has flown by, but sadly not my grief.

Genius is born, not made. Prince is a Genius. No question. RIP Legend.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #1332 posted 05/19/16 6:52am

purplestainedt
ears

I was just thinking about this today. I can't believe it will be a month in a few days. Life is still going on to the outside world. I have nothing but the music and grief. I believe will they will always be on adversarial terms. Time has stood still for me. I miss Prince greatly. I anticipate with all of you the outcome of this investigation. The only thing that gives me comfort is knowing if Prince was in any kind of pain - the pain is over now sad

blue22 said:

babynoz said:



I've said the same over and over.

As I stated on another thread, (maybe this one too, who knows at this point), this isn't LAPD or NYPD. I felt a little reassurance from the Sheriff's press conference that they will do their very best for Prince. I am glad that their priority is to take their time and get it right.

The Sheriff also said three times that they will do all they can to protect Prince's privacy and dignity as much as possible in the process...I'm grateful for that too.


Me too. They sure are taking their time. I can't believe he'll be gone for a month on Saturday.

time has flown by, but sadly not my grief.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #1333 posted 05/19/16 7:04am

hollywooddove

avatar

If his death results in carelessness from a doctor, I am going to be SO pissed.

We are all so full of doody here
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #1334 posted 05/19/16 7:16am

babynoz

purplestainedtears said:

I was just thinking about this today. I can't believe it will be a month in a few days. Life is still going on to the outside world. I have nothing but the music and grief. I believe will they will always be on adversarial terms. Time has stood still for me. I miss Prince greatly. I anticipate with all of you the outcome of this investigation. The only thing that gives me comfort is knowing if Prince was in any kind of pain - the pain is over now sad

blue22 said:

Me too. They sure are taking their time. I can't believe he'll be gone for a month on Saturday.

time has flown by, but sadly not my grief.



Well said.

It feels like the universe is broken or something but our love wil endure no matter what. grouphug

The waiting is so hard and our hearts remain heavy, but we want them to do the best that they can for our Prince under the circumstances.

Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #1335 posted 05/19/16 7:54am

babynoz

artist76 said:

When will this thread actually be about autopsy/investigation updates?

We're over 40 pages and its all just speculations.



The speculation wouldn't be as bad if the speculators didn't state their opinions as fact when we still have no official reports. They accuse everybody who is waiting instead of speculating of being in denial. rolleyes

Not to mention people getting their feelings hurt because we're not marveling at their brilliant powers of deductive reasoning.


Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #1336 posted 05/19/16 7:55am

RJOrion

people waiting intently for these autopsy reports are like characters in the old Charlie Brown Halloween cartoon, waiting for the Great Pumpkin...waiting for something that, when it comes (if it ever does), its all lies...happens with all these icon deaths...same shit, different diaper...
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #1337 posted 05/19/16 8:00am

NinaB

avatar

babynoz said:



artist76 said:


When will this thread actually be about autopsy/investigation updates?


We're over 40 pages and its all just speculations.






The speculation wouldn't be as bad if the speculators didn't state their opinions as fact when we still have no official reports. They accuse everybody who is waiting instead of speculating of being in denial. rolleyes

Not to mention people getting their feelings hurt because we're not marveling at their brilliant powers of deductive reasoning.



Couldn't agree more.
"We just let people talk & say whatever they want 2 say. 9 times out of 10, trust me, what's out there now, I wouldn't give nary one of these folks the time of day. That's why I don't say anything back, because there's so much that's wrong" - P, Dec '15
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #1338 posted 05/19/16 8:08am

babynoz

RJOrion said:

people waiting intently for these autopsy reports are like characters in the old Charlie Brown Halloween cartoon, waiting for the Great Pumpkin...waiting for something that, when it comes (if it ever does), its all lies...happens with all these icon deaths...same shit, different diaper...



Nothing to do with intently....the word is patiently.

Speculation is one thing but you have to realize that whatever your speculation is, we read it the first hundred times it was posted.

Furthermore, why anyone would automatically assume the report is going to be lies is very odd. As though anyting said here by know-it-alls is going to be more credible?

Thanks for the laugh. falloff

Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #1339 posted 05/19/16 8:12am

babynoz

NinaB said:

babynoz said:



The speculation wouldn't be as bad if the speculators didn't state their opinions as fact when we still have no official reports. They accuse everybody who is waiting instead of speculating of being in denial. rolleyes

Not to mention people getting their feelings hurt because we're not marveling at their brilliant powers of deductive reasoning.


Couldn't agree more.



Case in point, RJOrion's reply is exactly the problem. Implying that waiting for the report makes us somehow feeble minded or something? rolleyes

Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #1340 posted 05/19/16 8:27am

nemesis2099

avatar

babynoz said:

NinaB said:

babynoz said: Couldn't agree more.



Case in point, RJOrion's reply is exactly the problem. Implying that waiting for the report makes us somehow feeble minded or something? rolleyes

I think he meant there will always be suspicions when it comes to celebrity deaths.. Sam Cooke, Marilyn, MJ, etc

'Somewhere in Uptown'
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #1341 posted 05/19/16 8:28am

NinaB

avatar

babynoz said:



NinaB said:


babynoz said:




The speculation wouldn't be as bad if the speculators didn't state their opinions as fact when we still have no official reports. They accuse everybody who is waiting instead of speculating of being in denial. rolleyes

Not to mention people getting their feelings hurt because we're not marveling at their brilliant powers of deductive reasoning.




Couldn't agree more.



Case in point, RJOrion's reply is exactly the problem. Implying that waiting for the report makes us somehow feeble minded or something? rolleyes


Cha! This is hard enuf as it is. I really can't be bothered with all the speculation & bickering. Bottom line; it's all ego. chatterbox
[Edited 5/19/16 8:38am]
"We just let people talk & say whatever they want 2 say. 9 times out of 10, trust me, what's out there now, I wouldn't give nary one of these folks the time of day. That's why I don't say anything back, because there's so much that's wrong" - P, Dec '15
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #1342 posted 05/19/16 9:16am

babynoz

nemesis2099 said:

babynoz said:



Case in point, RJOrion's reply is exactly the problem. Implying that waiting for the report makes us somehow feeble minded or something? rolleyes

I think he meant there will always be suspicions when it comes to celebrity deaths.. Sam Cooke, Marilyn, MJ, etc



And if he'd said that then it would be fine. Instead he chose to compare people to Charlie Brown characters though.


Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #1343 posted 05/19/16 10:50am

RJOrion

nemesis2099 said:



babynoz said:




NinaB said:


babynoz said: Couldn't agree more.



Case in point, RJOrion's reply is exactly the problem. Implying that waiting for the report makes us somehow feeble minded or something? rolleyes





I think he meant there will always be suspicions when it comes to celebrity deaths.. Sam Cooke, Marilyn, MJ, etc



exactly...i never mentioned anyones' name or referred to any specific commenter...im actually one of the aforementioned "people", too...just expressing my frustration at history repeating itself...no need to catch feelings for feeling like Linus or Lucy...
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #1344 posted 05/19/16 11:18am

babynoz

RJOrion said:

nemesis2099 said:

I think he meant there will always be suspicions when it comes to celebrity deaths.. Sam Cooke, Marilyn, MJ, etc

exactly...i never mentioned anyones' name or referred to any specific commenter...im actually one of the aforementioned "people", too...just expressing my frustration at history repeating itself...no need to catch feelings for feeling like Linus or Lucy...



No need for this comment that had nothing to do with your frustration either....

"people waiting intently for these autopsy reports are like characters in the old Charlie Brown Halloween cartoon, waiting for the Great Pumpkin"

Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #1345 posted 05/19/16 11:27am

musicfan77

avatar

starkitty said:

norsknurse said:
New article on Kirk Johnson mentions Prince.org https://www.yahoo.com/new...16394.html
we're (McD's) a citeable news source cool, cool

yeah I posted several articles in another thread how his inner circle are keeping mum.

They most likely knew and feel they are going to be blamed because they didn't get him to emergency sooner. Who took Prince on all of his Walgreen runs?

The autopsy will reveal what he died from, and that is where it will get dicey. If it is due to overdose of Percocet and a combination of dehydration, and lack of eating, the people around him will be questioned. That is probably why they are laying low.

When will celebrities ever learn, the people around you are critical. Have smart people around you, not just "YES" people who want to keep their paycheck. Now they will all be losing their paychecks, unless the family keeps them around.

fan for life
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #1346 posted 05/19/16 11:36am

Farfunknugin

avatar

Here's the latest via USA TODAY -

http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/people/2016/05/19/princes-death-day-29-billboard-producers-defend-madonna-tribute/84581426/

Hadn't seen this picture of P circa 98'

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #1347 posted 05/19/16 12:08pm

sonshine

avatar

Four weeks today and still nothing official. When it does finally come out Im afraid it's going to be almost as bad as hearing the terrible news the day he passed.
It's a hurtful place, the world, in and of itself. We don't need to add to it. We all need one another. ~ PRN
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #1348 posted 05/19/16 12:24pm

cardinal

avatar

autopsy results at least another couple of weeks away, testing is taking longer than they expected. what in the living hell could they be looking for that takes this long?
"If u love somebody, your life won't be in vain
And there's always a rainbow, at the end of every rain."--peace and love, dear prince.....
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #1349 posted 05/19/16 12:33pm

babynoz

sonshine said:

Four weeks today and still nothing official. When it does finally come out Im afraid it's going to be almost as bad as hearing the terrible news the day he passed.



You could be right about that, eek

Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Page 45 of 50 « First<414243444546474849>Last »
  New topic   Printable     (Log in to 'subscribe' to this topic)
« Previous topic  Next topic »
Forums > Prince: Music and More > * autopsy/investigation updates here