jjam said:

Well, we will find out soon what happened.

For what's it worth, regarding the AIDS rumours, a producer friend of mine knew someone who was a driver for the studio he worked at, who also often drove Prince around in the 90s. He was VERY busy after UK shows, usually ferrying Prince around to have a...well, private meeting with a woman he'd picked out of the crowd that night - we're talking most nights, by the way. He was promiscous, based on what I heard from this producer.

I think we're going to see a lot of big names from the 80s/90s pass on over the next few years from AIDS, sadly. Whilst life expectancy for people with AIDS is much better than it used to be, we still don't know exactly how many extra years people suffering from it can gain. And it's not beyond the realms of possibility for it to be the cause of how Prince passed on, I'm afraid. But, again, we'll know the full story soon.

That doesn't really add up, though, because thanks to antiretroviral therapy, people with HIV now live approximately an average life span. (Remember Magic Johnson? He found out he had HIV in 1991 and is still around.) So I doubt we'll start to see a lot more celebrities die of AIDS-related complications any time soon. Even if Prince had HIV -- which no reputable sources have thus far claimed -- the same should hold true for him, unless he was refusing to take antiretroviral treatment. However, that also wouldn't make sense because it seems that he was taking medication for something, so why refuse antiretroviral treatment but not other types of medication? Why single out HIV treatment? The only medical treatment his religion would have prohibited was blood transfusions; nothing else would be restricted.

Arbwyth said:

jjam said:

Well, we will find out soon what happened.

For what's it worth, regarding the AIDS rumours, a producer friend of mine knew someone who was a driver for the studio he worked at, who also often drove Prince around in the 90s. He was VERY busy after UK shows, usually ferrying Prince around to have a...well, private meeting with a woman he'd picked out of the crowd that night - we're talking most nights, by the way. He was promiscous, based on what I heard from this producer.

I think we're going to see a lot of big names from the 80s/90s pass on over the next few years from AIDS, sadly. Whilst life expectancy for people with AIDS is much better than it used to be, we still don't know exactly how many extra years people suffering from it can gain. And it's not beyond the realms of possibility for it to be the cause of how Prince passed on, I'm afraid. But, again, we'll know the full story soon.

That doesn't really add up, though, because thanks to antiretroviral therapy, people with HIV now live approximately an average life span. (Remember Magic Johnson? He found out he had HIV in 1991 and is still around.) So I doubt we'll start to see a lot more celebrities die of AIDS-related complications any time soon. Even if Prince had HIV -- which no reputable sources have thus far claimed -- the same should hold true for him, unless he was refusing to take antiretroviral treatment. However, that also wouldn't make sense because it seems that he was taking medication for something, so why refuse antiretroviral treatment but not other types of medication? Why single out HIV treatment? The only medical treatment his religion would have prohibited was blood transfusions; nothing else would be restricted.

If the HIV thing is true, the story is that he stopped taking his medication because he believed god would cure him and thus developed full blown AIDS.

Arbwyth said:

jjam said:

Well, we will find out soon what happened.

For what's it worth, regarding the AIDS rumours, a producer friend of mine knew someone who was a driver for the studio he worked at, who also often drove Prince around in the 90s. He was VERY busy after UK shows, usually ferrying Prince around to have a...well, private meeting with a woman he'd picked out of the crowd that night - we're talking most nights, by the way. He was promiscous, based on what I heard from this producer.

I think we're going to see a lot of big names from the 80s/90s pass on over the next few years from AIDS, sadly. Whilst life expectancy for people with AIDS is much better than it used to be, we still don't know exactly how many extra years people suffering from it can gain. And it's not beyond the realms of possibility for it to be the cause of how Prince passed on, I'm afraid. But, again, we'll know the full story soon.

That doesn't really add up, though, because thanks to antiretroviral therapy, people with HIV now live approximately an average life span. (Remember Magic Johnson? He found out he had HIV in 1991 and is still around.) So I doubt we'll start to see a lot more celebrities die of AIDS-related complications any time soon. Even if Prince had HIV -- which no reputable sources have thus far claimed -- the same should hold true for him, unless he was refusing to take antiretroviral treatment. However, that also wouldn't make sense because it seems that he was taking medication for something, so why refuse antiretroviral treatment but not other types of medication? Why single out HIV treatment? The only medical treatment his religion would have prohibited was blood transfusions; nothing else would be restricted.

It was reported that Prince was taking treatment but stopped due the belief that God would heal him, in which knowing how strong his beliefs were, one could believe that. It was said that after he stopped the treatment, that the HIV developed into full blown AIDS and that nothing could be done, and that he was told that he didn't have long to live. Now, I'm not saying that this is fact or true, just what is out there, among so many other things.

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1contessa said:

Arbwyth said:

That doesn't really add up, though, because thanks to antiretroviral therapy, people with HIV now live approximately an average life span. (Remember Magic Johnson? He found out he had HIV in 1991 and is still around.) So I doubt we'll start to see a lot more celebrities die of AIDS-related complications any time soon. Even if Prince had HIV -- which no reputable sources have thus far claimed -- the same should hold true for him, unless he was refusing to take antiretroviral treatment. However, that also wouldn't make sense because it seems that he was taking medication for something, so why refuse antiretroviral treatment but not other types of medication? Why single out HIV treatment? The only medical treatment his religion would have prohibited was blood transfusions; nothing else would be restricted.

It was reported that Prince was taking treatment but stopped due the belief that God would heal him, in which knowing how strong his beliefs were, one could believe that. It was said that after he stopped the treatment, that the HIV developed into full blown AIDS and that nothing could be done, and that he was told that he didn't have long to live. Now, I'm not saying that this is fact or true, just what is out there, among so many other things.

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I totally am NOT buying the HIV/AIDS theory. There would be no reason for Prince not to take the HIV meds even if it were true. At this point, we simply don't know what killed Prince. All we can be fairly certain of is that he was taking Percocet, but just because the investigation is focusing on that right now, still does not mean that's what killed him.

1contessa said:

I know it's been said many times in here but I can't wait for the autopsy/toxicology results to be released to HOPEFULLY stop all this speculation. Our minds are desperately searching for answers, and I'm doing the same thing and just trying to make sense of what happened. I really do think if we get a sold cause of death, then it will help a bit, although depends on what it is. If it is something that was unavoidable, then of course it was just "his time" and that is easier to take than some of the other possibilities.

rightbluecheek said:

avajane said:

lwr001 said:

muleFunk said:

I agree 100%.

You have to understand that they are going to roast him because of the stand he took with the Music Industry and with certain political issues.

He is not going to be left in peace.

wrong, they will roast him as he had an air that he was above it all,,to find out that he did drugs etc will be disconcerting

For hip pain and an addiction from that hip pain?

FunkiestOne said:

I know it's been said many times in here but I can't wait for the autopsy/toxicology results to be released to HOPEFULLY stop all this speculation. Our minds are desperately searching for answers, and I'm doing the same thing and just trying to make sense of what happened. I really do think if we get a sold cause of death, then it will help a bit, although depends on what it is. If it is something that was unavoidable, then of course it was just "his time" and that is easier to take than some of the other possibilities.

I just want to point this out because many overlook it: we will hear what the cause of death was and given all the focus on percocet, it doesn't seem a stretch that it may be drug-related. But there is no way to know for sure about any other underlying conditions he may have had if they don't want us to know because an underlying condition wouldn't be the cause of death, therefore won't necessarily be released. I don't know what they do or don't release for information re autopsy results in MN.

Whether or not people believe the MediaTakeout blind (that Blind Gossip posted on their site) about the HIV/AIDS rumor, there was at least one element of truth to it, namely that there is a legacy to be protected and action will probably be taken to ensure that it's protected by giving out limited info only. I hate to say it's all about the money, but...it's probably going to be all about the money.

Whatever caused his death, it won't affect how I think of him because nothing about it could take away from the pure genius that was Prince.

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http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_PRINCE_KEY_PLAYERS?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

The Associated Press has provided a recap of the key players in the ongoing criminal investigation and autopsy.

jjam said:

Well, we will find out soon what happened.

It could be MONTHS before we find out what happened.

Rest In Peace, Prince. We will NEVER forget you. Thank you so much.

They need to check out Ray and Juell Roberts, too.

TheEnglishGent said:

Arbwyth said:

That doesn't really add up, though, because thanks to antiretroviral therapy, people with HIV now live approximately an average life span. (Remember Magic Johnson? He found out he had HIV in 1991 and is still around.) So I doubt we'll start to see a lot more celebrities die of AIDS-related complications any time soon. Even if Prince had HIV -- which no reputable sources have thus far claimed -- the same should hold true for him, unless he was refusing to take antiretroviral treatment. However, that also wouldn't make sense because it seems that he was taking medication for something, so why refuse antiretroviral treatment but not other types of medication? Why single out HIV treatment? The only medical treatment his religion would have prohibited was blood transfusions; nothing else would be restricted.

If the HIV thing is true, the story is that he stopped taking his medication because he believed god would cure him and thus developed full blown AIDS.

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Yeah, but the story that said that claimed it was in the last 5-6 years, which doesn't add up with how HIV and AIDS progression in the 21st Century works.

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HIV progression to AIDS has - over the past decade and a half - slowed down on a whole even in people who do not take antiretroviral medication. Even taking into account his work ethic, he would not have just keeled over and died JUST from AIDS and its opportunistic infections. Even certain opportunistic infections that became synonymous with AIDS progression - such as Kaposi's sarcoma - are becoming increasingly rare, even with people with untreated AIDS.

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I'm not buying this theory.

h4rm0ny said:

TheEnglishGent said:

If the HIV thing is true, the story is that he stopped taking his medication because he believed god would cure him and thus developed full blown AIDS.

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Yeah, but the story that said that claimed it was in the last 5-6 years, which doesn't add up with how HIV and AIDS progression in the 21st Century works.

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HIV progression to AIDS has - over the past decade and a half - slowed down on a whole even in people who do not take antiretroviral medication. Even taking into account his work ethic, he would not have just keeled over and died JUST from AIDS and its opportunistic infections. Even certain opportunistic infections that became synonymous with AIDS progression - such as Kaposi's sarcoma - are becoming increasingly rare, even with people with untreated AIDS.

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I'm not buying this theory.

The story said that HIV was contracted in the early 90's and medication was ceased a few years ago because it was believed that god would cure him.

TheEnglishGent said:

h4rm0ny said:

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Yeah, but the story that said that claimed it was in the last 5-6 years, which doesn't add up with how HIV and AIDS progression in the 21st Century works.

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HIV progression to AIDS has - over the past decade and a half - slowed down on a whole even in people who do not take antiretroviral medication. Even taking into account his work ethic, he would not have just keeled over and died JUST from AIDS and its opportunistic infections. Even certain opportunistic infections that became synonymous with AIDS progression - such as Kaposi's sarcoma - are becoming increasingly rare, even with people with untreated AIDS.

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I'm not buying this theory.

The story said that HIV was contracted in the early 90's and medication was ceased a few years ago because it was believed that god would cure him.

well, it's probably a bullshit story. he wouldn't have died the way he did. and if he had an AIDS-related infection, he would not have been allowed to just go on his merry way after the plane incident.

h4rm0ny said:

TheEnglishGent said:

The story said that HIV was contracted in the early 90's and medication was ceased a few years ago because it was believed that god would cure him.

well, it's probably a bullshit story. he wouldn't have died the way he did. and if he had an AIDS-related infection, he would not have been allowed to just go on his merry way after the plane incident.

yeah, probably

Mumio said:

Mumio said:

migmigmig said:

I come to this item for autopsy/investigation updates. Perhaps a tin foil hat thread should be started and this discussion ported over there.

Yes that is now what absurdities is for. But for its short existence, it was for minor stuff like makeup so people aren't getting it.

I thought there was enough material and different opinions/conspiracies out there that you could have a whole website dedicated to it...

So I went to buy aprilsnow.com (you know, because looking for answers.. LOL) and it was shockingly taken already by a UK public relations company for the fine arts or something like that. (Maybe the owner likes that song?!?!? Weird)

however letsgocrazy.com is for sale. That seems like a fitting domain name as well.

I emailed the owner for a quote but then I just got an email saying to call and I'm like NAH I don't actually want to talk to someone and find out the price is super expensive...I mean the owner probably owned it from before and im sure the value has gone up.

h4rm0ny said:

TheEnglishGent said:

The story said that HIV was contracted in the early 90's and medication was ceased a few years ago because it was believed that god would cure him.

well, it's probably a bullshit story. he wouldn't have died the way he did. and if he had an AIDS-related infection, he would not have been allowed to just go on his merry way after the plane incident.

Hospitals can't keep people against their will. But they probably made him sign something saying he was refusing treatment and leaving against Drs orders (just to cover their own ass).

As far as the AIDS rumor. I'm not buying it. I don't seem him as the type to have unprotected sex with random women...he was far too worried about pregnancies. And if he was infected in the early 90s that would mean that when he married Mayte, she and any potential babies would be at risk of contracting it from him. I think it's a BS story.

GirlBrother said:

bilbolives said:

http://stmedia.startribune.com/documents/1prince051116.pdf

The Minneapolis Star Tribune has posted the search warrant from May 6th today, May 10th, regarding the Minnesota doctor and the criminal investigation.

http://stmedia.startribun...051116.pdf I need to ask a stupid question... What has been redacted, after Prince's full name? There's a word in brackets after "Prince Rogers Nelson." It's not "victim" is it? I can't see it being "deceased", because it's obvious that he's dead. What's been redacted after other's names? "Suspect"? "Witness"?

Not sure. I suspect it is either an additional identifer such as a ss# or DOB as it is only used after the person's full name is used. Or as you mentioned perhaps "victim" and "witness"...

TheEnglishGent said:

h4rm0ny said:

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Yeah, but the story that said that claimed it was in the last 5-6 years, which doesn't add up with how HIV and AIDS progression in the 21st Century works.

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HIV progression to AIDS has - over the past decade and a half - slowed down on a whole even in people who do not take antiretroviral medication. Even taking into account his work ethic, he would not have just keeled over and died JUST from AIDS and its opportunistic infections. Even certain opportunistic infections that became synonymous with AIDS progression - such as Kaposi's sarcoma - are becoming increasingly rare, even with people with untreated AIDS.

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I'm not buying this theory.

The story said that HIV was contracted in the early 90's and medication was ceased a few years ago because it was believed that god would cure him.

Early 90s?? So he was impregnating Mayte while he had HIV? That's quite a stretch.

weirdozmedia said:

TheEnglishGent said:

The story said that HIV was contracted in the early 90's and medication was ceased a few years ago because it was believed that god would cure him.

Early 90s?? So he was impregnating Mayte while he had HIV? That's quite a stretch.

And that's exactly why the HIV/AIDS thing is hard to believe, because if Prince contracted HIV sometime in the 90's, would he risk impregnating Mayte and Manuela, knowing that he had the virus? That in itself opens up so many questions, such as, did he tell them that he was HIV positive, did they know and were okay with it, what about all of the other women afterward or during that time, did he knowingly have sex with them knowing that he had HIV???? I just can't even fathom Prince being that kind of person or doing something like that!!!!

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[Edited 5/17/16 16:36pm]

Ugh. I just read some of the comments after the article. Some were pretty brutal.

He lawyered up. Interesting.

ChanGirl said:

He lawyered up. Interesting.

I agree, and also wonder why?