inspireof said:

iloveannie said:

Well Prince was never a Lennon or Dylan when it came to lyrics so what were people expecting?

According to Drfunkenberry Live Warfield wrote the lyrics to this song...

Here is info on the track:

"LIVE OUT LOUD"

ORIGINAL LYRICS BY LIV WARFIELD

MUSIC WRITTEN BY PRINCE

TRACK IS PERFORMED BY

HANNAH FORD: DRUMS AND VOCALS

DONNA GRANTIS: GUITAR AND VOCALS

IDA NIELSEN: BASS AND VOCALS

PRINCE: ADDITIONAL VOCALS AND FX

give em time to complain about the length of the track..or lack of funk or acoustics or something...

iloveannie said:

OperatingThetan said:

Trickology said:

This song could be on a Mandy moore album or a song from Disney Channel's Hannah Montana. It just doesn't seem sincere & that is the problem. I get what they are trying to do but the title is a desperate lure to cater to a youthful audience.

The real test for Prince fans is, try to think if you would care about this song if Prince had NO involvement & you heard this? This trio needs to do better for a first impression unless the goal is to get a younger audience, it won't work w/out the proper producers & studio team not to mention marketing team.

To put it bluntly: For Prince fans who want to connect w/ others to get excited about Prince, this isn't really even worth mentioning. The videos dosed out the hype, now they have to deliver. This isn't a good debut single for the trio, however I think it is a good exercise for the band to find their sound. But you don't want to go down the corny path w/ a acronym song "L.O.L." I refuse to just be part of the "Get Along Gang" of Prince.org that signs off on everything Prince does.

Let me put it to everyone reading on this thread? Do you think Prince would listen to this in his car driving around MPLS? FOH w/ that bullshit. Prince is trying to reach the teenage demographic again. Maybe a dubstep remix w/ Skrillex will do it,

[Edited 2/23/13 23:00pm]

Agreed. I was thinking Hannah Montana or some sort of 'High School Musical' myself.

I think what you mentioned about the song seeming contrived is also what bothers me so much. I don't want to see my favourite musical polymath desperately trying to appeal to the youth market. I want to hear something genuine and sincere.

I'm aware Prince didn't write the lyrics, but he has evidently 'approved' them. Compare the cliched, pop-psychology of 'LOL' to genuinely socially aware/heartfelt songs such as 'Sign O Times', 'The Love We Make', 'Dance On', 'Anna Stesia' etc. Or songs such as 'Love Thy Will Be Done' or the recent 'Long Gone' (from Allo's album) given to other artists.

I wouldn't play this to get others excited about Prince because I won't be playing it myself. It's an embarassment and actively detracts from Prince's musical skills and genius. It pains me to write this after so many years of loving Prince but I genuinely think it is one of the worst things he's ever been involved in. And yes, I do mean worse than 'Jughead'.

I agree, this is a distinct pattern. I think he is frustrated he hasn't had a successful protege act that lasts other than Sheila E & The Time. And if you think about it, that is pretty amazing he was able to make stars out of two acts that are still going. The odds of that are pretty low to have two acts have this kind of longevity. But probably it stings that every other act fizzled because he is so cocky about "starmaking" I have no doubt that "Paisley Park records" still haunts him, he is reminded everyday when he walks into Paisley Park.

You bring up a interesting point about lyrics, I was listening to early Prince & it is amazing to see how fast he changed into an impressive lyricist. You rarely see someone transition like that lyrically. But it is disheartening to see Prince go juvenile basic & stay there for so long a period.

I wonder if the reason why is focusing on these acts because he is risking his health too much w/ touring. Or maybe the push on these acts is because he needs more of an income to keep Paisley Park w/ the lights on? The upkeep on that must be insane.

The problem w/ "LOL" is, Prince is springboarding off the fanbase trolling us that something exciting musically is going to happen w/ Him when it looks to be like a girl group launch. Much luck to these talented girls but I can't direct others to this group & pitch them as something for "Prince" fans to be excited about.

It is interesting that "Andy Allo" is just talked about as an afterthought. I am guessing because Prince is salty his plans for artist takeover didn't go quite as well as a "Badu" or even a "Esperanza" But it is good to see that they do link her Guitar Center appearance at least. I bet you he is jealous he didn't get a chance to discover Janelle Monae before Outkast did.

I feel kind of bad for these girls because they are going to learn the hard way when Prince is tired of their presence, likely they will be added to the list: Tamar,Jill Jones,The Game Boys,Carmen Electra,TC Ellis, etc.

Some fans will reference that we are bitching but we are no different than what Prince has said in the past about "Today's Music" To be brutally honest, it really does seem Prince wants to desperately be part of "Today's Music" Kind of puzzling to think why this is so important to him unless he wants another source of income other than royalties,publishing & touring.

The age factor of us older fans probably has something to do w/ it, but if Prince wants to reach to a younger demographic, I don't think this is it. Unless he does go Christian Rock & he can get these girls to preach the word.

On a sidenote: I think Boyfriend is musically refreshing to see in comparison w/ Screwdriver. So there! For all you fans who think we are just complaining,

iloveannie said:

iloveannie said:

Well Prince was never a Lennon or Dylan when it came to lyrics so what were people expecting?

My mistake, let me correct that... "Well Liv was never a Lennon or Dylan when it came to lyrics so what were people expecting?" You guys take everything so seriously. Year after year now I sit here posting flippant remarks, tongue in cheek comments and general trivial opinions and each and every time those comments are leapt upon. Prince is a pop star. Nothing more, nothing less. He's not Jesus and he ain't a prophet. He's had a less rewarding life in some aspects than many people here. I look at my granddaughter and it makes me far richer than any man being worshipped as a false idol with money in the bank. No fame, no money, no house could give me what I have. A wife, a daughter, a family, my privacy, my friends. I also get to see Prince live, something he's never done

He has hundreds of children, he keeps them locked up in a dark cramped place & doesn't allow any free time for recreation. His children need clothing,food & unconditional love. Instead he teases them that one day they will be able to be heard by the world & appreciated only to sit in the dark year after year never seeing the outside world. There have been successful rescue attempts for a few but these children have a hard time adjusting to the real world. We need to do something, maybe contact "MSNBC Dateline" of these atrocities.

Trickology said:

OperatingThetan said:

Agreed. I was thinking Hannah Montana or some sort of 'High School Musical' myself.

I think what you mentioned about the song seeming contrived is also what bothers me so much. I don't want to see my favourite musical polymath desperately trying to appeal to the youth market. I want to hear something genuine and sincere.

I'm aware Prince didn't write the lyrics, but he has evidently 'approved' them. Compare the cliched, pop-psychology of 'LOL' to genuinely socially aware/heartfelt songs such as 'Sign O Times', 'The Love We Make', 'Dance On', 'Anna Stesia' etc. Or songs such as 'Love Thy Will Be Done' or the recent 'Long Gone' (from Allo's album) given to other artists.

I wouldn't play this to get others excited about Prince because I won't be playing it myself. It's an embarassment and actively detracts from Prince's musical skills and genius. It pains me to write this after so many years of loving Prince but I genuinely think it is one of the worst things he's ever been involved in. And yes, I do mean worse than 'Jughead'.

I agree, this is a distinct pattern. I think he is frustrated he hasn't had a successful protege act that lasts other than Sheila E & The Time. And if you think about it, that is pretty amazing he was able to make stars out of two acts that are still going. The odds of that are pretty low to have two acts have this kind of longevity. But probably it stings that every other act fizzled because he is so cocky about "starmaking" I have no doubt that "Paisley Park records" still haunts him, he is reminded everyday when he walks into Paisley Park.

You bring up a interesting point about lyrics, I was listening to early Prince & it is amazing to see how fast he changed into an impressive lyricist. You rarely see someone transition like that lyrically. But it is disheartening to see Prince go juvenile basic & stay there for so long a period.

I wonder if the reason why is focusing on these acts because he is risking his health too much w/ touring. Or maybe the push on these acts is because he needs more of an income to keep Paisley Park w/ the lights on? The upkeep on that must be insane.

The problem w/ "LOL" is, Prince is springboarding off the fanbase trolling us that something exciting musically is going to happen w/ Him when it looks to be like a girl group launch. Much luck to these talented girls but I can't direct others to this group & pitch them as something for "Prince" fans to be excited about.

It is interesting that "Andy Allo" is just talked about as an afterthought. I am guessing because Prince is salty his plans for artist takeover didn't go quite as well as a "Badu" or even a "Esperanza" But it is good to see that they do link her Guitar Center appearance at least. I bet you he is jealous he didn't get a chance to discover Janelle Monae before Outkast did.

I feel kind of bad for these girls because they are going to learn the hard way when Prince is tired of their presence, likely they will be added to the list: Tamar,Jill Jones,The Game Boys,Carmen Electra,TC Ellis, etc.

Some fans will reference that we are bitching but we are no different than what Prince has said in the past about "Today's Music" To be brutally honest, it really does seem Prince wants to desperately be part of "Today's Music" Kind of puzzling to think why this is so important to him unless he wants another source of income other than royalties,publishing & touring.

The age factor of us older fans probably has something to do w/ it, but if Prince wants to reach to a younger demographic, I don't think this is it. Unless he does go Christian Rock & he can get these girls to preach the word.

On a sidenote: I think Boyfriend is musically refreshing to see in comparison w/ Screwdriver. So there! For all you fans who think we are just complaining,

I completely agree with you trickology. well put!

Trickology said:

OperatingThetan said:

Agreed. I was thinking Hannah Montana or some sort of 'High School Musical' myself.

I think what you mentioned about the song seeming contrived is also what bothers me so much. I don't want to see my favourite musical polymath desperately trying to appeal to the youth market. I want to hear something genuine and sincere.

I'm aware Prince didn't write the lyrics, but he has evidently 'approved' them. Compare the cliched, pop-psychology of 'LOL' to genuinely socially aware/heartfelt songs such as 'Sign O Times', 'The Love We Make', 'Dance On', 'Anna Stesia' etc. Or songs such as 'Love Thy Will Be Done' or the recent 'Long Gone' (from Allo's album) given to other artists.

I wouldn't play this to get others excited about Prince because I won't be playing it myself. It's an embarassment and actively detracts from Prince's musical skills and genius. It pains me to write this after so many years of loving Prince but I genuinely think it is one of the worst things he's ever been involved in. And yes, I do mean worse than 'Jughead'.

I agree, this is a distinct pattern. I think he is frustrated he hasn't had a successful protege act that lasts other than Sheila E & The Time. And if you think about it, that is pretty amazing he was able to make stars out of two acts that are still going. The odds of that are pretty low to have two acts have this kind of longevity. But probably it stings that every other act fizzled because he is so cocky about "starmaking" I have no doubt that "Paisley Park records" still haunts him, he is reminded everyday when he walks into Paisley Park.

You bring up a interesting point about lyrics, I was listening to early Prince & it is amazing to see how fast he changed into an impressive lyricist. You rarely see someone transition like that lyrically. But it is disheartening to see Prince go juvenile basic & stay there for so long a period.

I wonder if the reason why is focusing on these acts because he is risking his health too much w/ touring. Or maybe the push on these acts is because he needs more of an income to keep Paisley Park w/ the lights on? The upkeep on that must be insane.

The problem w/ "LOL" is, Prince is springboarding off the fanbase trolling us that something exciting musically is going to happen w/ Him when it looks to be like a girl group launch. Much luck to these talented girls but I can't direct others to this group & pitch them as something for "Prince" fans to be excited about.

It is interesting that "Andy Allo" is just talked about as an afterthought. I am guessing because Prince is salty his plans for artist takeover didn't go quite as well as a "Badu" or even a "Esperanza" But it is good to see that they do link her Guitar Center appearance at least. I bet you he is jealous he didn't get a chance to discover Janelle Monae before Outkast did.

I feel kind of bad for these girls because they are going to learn the hard way when Prince is tired of their presence, likely they will be added to the list: Tamar,Jill Jones,The Game Boys,Carmen Electra,TC Ellis, etc.

Some fans will reference that we are bitching but we are no different than what Prince has said in the past about "Today's Music" To be brutally honest, it really does seem Prince wants to desperately be part of "Today's Music" Kind of puzzling to think why this is so important to him unless he wants another source of income other than royalties,publishing & touring.

The age factor of us older fans probably has something to do w/ it, but if Prince wants to reach to a younger demographic, I don't think this is it. Unless he does go Christian Rock & he can get these girls to preach the word.

On a sidenote: I think Boyfriend is musically refreshing to see in comparison w/ Screwdriver. So there! For all you fans who think we are just complaining,

I agree. I didn't like "teen-pop" when I was a teen. But, so far, it's the only one of the new songs I don't like, so, I'm still on board.

purplethunder3121 said:

This song just doesn't send me to where I want to go... But, I am open to hearing more in the case the other songs do...

I long for something like this:

I called U yesterday, U didn't answer your phone
The main drag is knowing that U probably weren't alone
So here I sit in my lonely room lookin' 4 my sunshine
But all I've got is 2 cigarettes and this broken heart of mine

CHORUS:
So let the rain come down, the rain come down
Let the rain come down, down
Let the rain come down, the rain come down
Let the rain come down, down

U've been gone 17 days and 17 long nights
The main drag is knowing that U're holding someone else tight
I wanna call U every day and beg U 2 be near me
But I know your head is under water, I doubt that U could hear me

CHORUS

Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha
17 days
Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha
17 days

I called U yesterday
U didn't answer your phone
Yet, U're the one who's always lonely
But I'm the one who's always alone

Here I sit in my lonely room lookin' 4 my sunshine
All I've got is 2 cigarettes and this broken heart of mine

CHORUS {repeat}

Why don't U answer your phone, babe? {fade out}

[Edited 2/23/13 17:06pm]

then write a 17 Days appreciation thread like the other 1000 threads on that song.

First, I know that "L.O.L. (Live Out Loud)" plays on the "Laugh(ing) Out Loud" abbreviation so common with all the kids these days. And that it very well might be a pun on Liv Warfield's name. And that an LGBT initiative shares the name (this was probably unintended, in my opinion--out least, I doubt that Prince was aware of it). But, being ancient of days myself, I recalled the existence of a film from the dark ages (1998, when I looked it up) with Holly Hunter called Living Out Loud. If you haven't heard of it, well, there's no reason you should have. Apparently, according to Wikipedia, it made $15 million back in box office out of budget of 20 million--so, not a hit, certainly. So, I was wondering how much before that the phrase was around--and I googled.

"Living out loud"/"live out loud" is not surprisingly a very popular phrase with self-help/life-coaching type blogs and sites, but I noticed that the name Emile Zola was being connected with it regularly in the results. I found it unlikely that a French writer who died in 1902 was really going be a source for this quote:

“If you ask me what I came to do in this world, I, an artist, will answer you: I am here to live out loud.”

But I looked up the ultimate source (an essay called "Proudhon et Courbet" as published in Zola's collection Mes Haines) on archive.org, and found this:

"Si vous me demandez ce que je viens faire en ce monde, moi artiste, je vous repondrai: Je viens vivre tout haut."

My French is almost non-existent, but it seems like a match.

I'm certainly not claiming the phrase is coming directly from Zola--I feel pretty safe in saying that even if Liv and the others are aware of what he wrote that they probably found out after they were familiar with the phrase from somewhere else, since it's been in pop culture for at least 15 years and is all over the "feel-good-about-yourself" corners of the internet.

On a slightly different note, I get the feeling that some people think that the appearance of the phrase "L.O.L" is necessarily a calculated attempt to appeal to a younger demographic, one tied to the internet and its abbreviations. Certainly the title refers to that internet/texting culture, but the members of the band and the song's lyricist are part of that age group and they've been active users of the technology, and their using L.O.L. makes sense to me. According to Princevault, Hannah Ford was born in 1980. Liv Warfield (credited with the lyrics) was born in 1979--I don't know how old Donna Grantis and Ida Nielsen are--I think Donna's early twenties, and Ida's older. Early twenties for at least half of them, maybe more. From Prince himself, the title might seem weird. He has 30 years on these people, and didn't come of age in a world with today's technology, and has never seemed to incorporate references to modern communication well--even "Emale" and "My Computer" seemed kind of goofy to me (and that was in the '90s), and he's been known to sing that "in this digital age, you can just page me." That's uncomfortable. When Morris and the guys stuck a hashtag on a title ("#Trendin'"), that was kind of ridiculous. It seems more natural for 3rd Eye Girl to use a title like "L.O.L."

[Edited 2/24/13 10:57am]

Okay, I have no idea what's up with my math. Liv and Hannah would be early thirties, not 20's, and Donna's probably older than that too. However, these are still people who are still more the internet/texting demo than I am (or Prince), and were actively using social media before this.

[Edited 2/24/13 13:41pm]

purplethunder3121 said:

This song just doesn't send me to where I want to go... But, I am open to hearing more in the case the other songs do...

I long for something like this:

I called U yesterday, U didn't answer your phone
The main drag is knowing that U probably weren't alone
So here I sit in my lonely room lookin' 4 my sunshine
But all I've got is 2 cigarettes and this broken heart of mine

CHORUS:
So let the rain come down, the rain come down
Let the rain come down, down
Let the rain come down, the rain come down
Let the rain come down, down

U've been gone 17 days and 17 long nights
The main drag is knowing that U're holding someone else tight
I wanna call U every day and beg U 2 be near me
But I know your head is under water, I doubt that U could hear me

CHORUS

Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha
17 days
Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha
17 days

I called U yesterday
U didn't answer your phone
Yet, U're the one who's always lonely
But I'm the one who's always alone

Here I sit in my lonely room lookin' 4 my sunshine
All I've got is 2 cigarettes and this broken heart of mine

CHORUS {repeat}

Why don't U answer your phone, babe? {fade out}

[Edited 2/23/13 17:06pm]

I do, too. Let's see...click on Media Player...type in "17 Days"...click on the matching song...

POW!

There it is.

I didn't need 3rdEyeGirl.com for that.

Now, if you go in and edit out that "{fade out}" so we can hear what happened next--I'm with you.

The first thing I ever actually bought was the "When Doves Cry" single--and finding out that a song this good was a B-side was a big part of why I went further on. If there is a longer version, I want it.

inspireof said:

iloveannie said:

Well Prince was never a Lennon or Dylan when it came to lyrics so what were people expecting?

According to Drfunkenberry Live Warfield wrote the lyrics to this song...

Here is info on the track:

"LIVE OUT LOUD"

ORIGINAL LYRICS BY LIV WARFIELD

MUSIC WRITTEN BY PRINCE

TRACK IS PERFORMED BY

HANNAH FORD: DRUMS AND VOCALS

DONNA GRANTIS: GUITAR AND VOCALS

IDA NIELSEN: BASS AND VOCALS

PRINCE: ADDITIONAL VOCALS AND FX

Kudos to Liv Warfield.

EyeJester7 said:

TheFreakerFantastic said:

Leave off Jester! Don't be so bitter and twisted. Just because he was entrusted this song there's no need to take it out on him!

I think it was a good decision for him to get it...because he is a humble and a genuine fan who is not arrogant nor sycophantic (ass-kissing). He has a genuine love and respect for Prince's music. He has been creating those insightful and interesting videos for months now and he does not overreact if someone happens to disagree with a point he has made....he is respectful.

That rules out about 80% of the other 'lovers' on here....who claim knowledge of Prince's workings but who are very boastful and arrogant and if they had been given this gift it would have made them worse....they know who they are.

By contrast, Jester is still being humble and polite and has not let this go to his head, which proves to us all the right decision was made to bring him on board. Here's hoping he gets a free trip to Paisley Park or something, good on him.

[Edited 2/23/13 2:25am]

I really appreciate this post! Don't make a dude go all the way to tears now! Haha

It means a lot! Just something that encouraged me, and I thank you for being so positive! It means a lot to me. I'm not some sort of celebrity or insider. Just somebody that for whatever reason, was used to bring this to you all as a 'trailer' if you will.,,to what comes next! I respect everyone for all of the sincerity and discussion of this song! It's quite a pleasure, and one of the resons I love the org. The trolls, long-timers, and all. It's all cool and makes my heart sing! SO thank you!

No problem. I was only saying what I see as true anyway. Your response just proves that. Keep up the good work!

[Edited 2/24/13 12:28pm]

EddieC said:

I think Prince has enough money to buy some panels on his roof, that provide enough solar energy to keep Paisley Park going.

Andy Allo is doing fine. She is at the beginning of her career and I expect that we will hear more from her in the future.

About the lyrics:

You all seem to find the lyrics childish, but you don't seem to have spend 1 second wondering what the lyrics are about.

If you check the website http://www.liveoutloud.info/, you might get a different look at the lyrics.

I don't think that young lesbian and gay kids consider their issues as 'light' as you consider these lyrics.

I apreciate Prince & The 3rdeyegirls that they produced a song that has the intend to inspire and support gay people to come out about their sexuality and not have anybody intimidate them.

And I think that the next version does deserve another singer.

I think the song would fit Patryce Banks very well, she is the singer from Graham Central Station.

Trickology said:

OperatingThetan said:

Agreed. I was thinking Hannah Montana or some sort of 'High School Musical' myself.

I think what you mentioned about the song seeming contrived is also what bothers me so much. I don't want to see my favourite musical polymath desperately trying to appeal to the youth market. I want to hear something genuine and sincere.

I'm aware Prince didn't write the lyrics, but he has evidently 'approved' them. Compare the cliched, pop-psychology of 'LOL' to genuinely socially aware/heartfelt songs such as 'Sign O Times', 'The Love We Make', 'Dance On', 'Anna Stesia' etc. Or songs such as 'Love Thy Will Be Done' or the recent 'Long Gone' (from Allo's album) given to other artists.

I wouldn't play this to get others excited about Prince because I won't be playing it myself. It's an embarassment and actively detracts from Prince's musical skills and genius. It pains me to write this after so many years of loving Prince but I genuinely think it is one of the worst things he's ever been involved in. And yes, I do mean worse than 'Jughead'.

I agree, this is a distinct pattern. I think he is frustrated he hasn't had a successful protege act that lasts other than Sheila E & The Time. And if you think about it, that is pretty amazing he was able to make stars out of two acts that are still going. The odds of that are pretty low to have two acts have this kind of longevity. But probably it stings that every other act fizzled because he is so cocky about "starmaking" I have no doubt that "Paisley Park records" still haunts him, he is reminded everyday when he walks into Paisley Park.

You bring up a interesting point about lyrics, I was listening to early Prince & it is amazing to see how fast he changed into an impressive lyricist. You rarely see someone transition like that lyrically. But it is disheartening to see Prince go juvenile basic & stay there for so long a period.

I wonder if the reason why is focusing on these acts because he is risking his health too much w/ touring. Or maybe the push on these acts is because he needs more of an income to keep Paisley Park w/ the lights on? The upkeep on that must be insane.

The problem w/ "LOL" is, Prince is springboarding off the fanbase trolling us that something exciting musically is going to happen w/ Him when it looks to be like a girl group launch. Much luck to these talented girls but I can't direct others to this group & pitch them as something for "Prince" fans to be excited about.

It is interesting that "Andy Allo" is just talked about as an afterthought. I am guessing because Prince is salty his plans for artist takeover didn't go quite as well as a "Badu" or even a "Esperanza" But it is good to see that they do link her Guitar Center appearance at least. I bet you he is jealous he didn't get a chance to discover Janelle Monae before Outkast did.

I feel kind of bad for these girls because they are going to learn the hard way when Prince is tired of their presence, likely they will be added to the list: Tamar,Jill Jones,The Game Boys,Carmen Electra,TC Ellis, etc.

Some fans will reference that we are bitching but we are no different than what Prince has said in the past about "Today's Music" To be brutally honest, it really does seem Prince wants to desperately be part of "Today's Music" Kind of puzzling to think why this is so important to him unless he wants another source of income other than royalties,publishing & touring.

The age factor of us older fans probably has something to do w/ it, but if Prince wants to reach to a younger demographic, I don't think this is it. Unless he does go Christian Rock & he can get these girls to preach the word.

On a sidenote: I think Boyfriend is musically refreshing to see in comparison w/ Screwdriver. So there! For all you fans who think we are just complaining,

It would be interesting if Liv Warfield, gave her explanation behind the meaning of the lyrics, as she could have wrote it from a different perspective, than what some fans are assuming the song is about. Of course, the song could have various meanings or be an inspiration for many. Maybe DrF and Seth could have her as a guest on his Spreecast show to explain it, although the inspiration or meaning behind the lyrics could be about what you stated. We shall see.

dJJ said:

I think Prince has enough money to buy some panels on his roof, that provide enough solar energy to keep Paisley Park going.

Andy Allo is doing fine. She is at the beginning of her career and I expect that we will hear more from her in the future.

About the lyrics:

You all seem to find the lyrics childish, but you don't seem to have spend 1 second wondering what the lyrics are about.

If you check the website http://www.liveoutloud.info/, you might get a different look at the lyrics.

I don't think that young lesbian and gay kids consider their issues as 'light' as you consider these lyrics.

I apreciate Prince & The 3rdeyegirls that they produced a song that has the intend to inspire and support gay people to come out about their sexuality and not have anybody intimidate them.

And I think that the next version does deserve another singer.

I think the song would fit Patryce Banks very well, she is the singer from Graham Central Station.

Yes, she may have intended the lyrics for the Afro-American community.

However, today, the songs fits more to the support and encouragement gay people deserve to come out loud.

2elijah said:

It would be interesting if Liv Warfield, gave her explanation behind the meaning of the lyrics, as she could have wrote it from a different perspective, than what some fans are assuming the song is about. Of course, the song could have various meanings or be an inspiration for many. Maybe DrF and Seth could have her as a guest on his Spreecast show to explain it, although the inspiration or meaning behind the lyrics could be about what you stated. We shall see.

dJJ said:

I think Prince has enough money to buy some panels on his roof, that provide enough solar energy to keep Paisley Park going.

Andy Allo is doing fine. She is at the beginning of her career and I expect that we will hear more from her in the future.

About the lyrics:

You all seem to find the lyrics childish, but you don't seem to have spend 1 second wondering what the lyrics are about.

If you check the website http://www.liveoutloud.info/, you might get a different look at the lyrics.

I don't think that young lesbian and gay kids consider their issues as 'light' as you consider these lyrics.

I apreciate Prince & The 3rdeyegirls that they produced a song that has the intend to inspire and support gay people to come out about their sexuality and not have anybody intimidate them.

And I think that the next version does deserve another singer.

I think the song would fit Patryce Banks very well, she is the singer from Graham Central Station.

Totally not feeling this song from a lyrical or musical viewpoint. Wow.

No, I don't think it was intended specifically for the 'African-American' (not Afro-American community, ( Afro-American being an outdated reference, mostly used prior to the 1980s;a more updated reference is 'African-American) I don't know why you would assume that, , especially since music has no limitations on who can be inspired by an artist's words. It pretty much sounds like the lyrics can be an inspiration for many situations, i.e., from not being afraid to 'be' who you are, whether that references, race, sexuality, social activist speaking out against social injustices, bullying from peers, etc. The lyrics doesn't come off as limited to 'one' particular group within society, but even if Liv's intention of the lyrics was to support the gay community, I have to say the lyrics seem to go beyond its intention.

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2elijah said:

MIRvmn said:

EddieC said:

On a slightly different note, I get the feeling that some people think that the appearance of the phrase "L.O.L" is necessarily a calculated attempt to appeal to a younger demographic, one tied to the internet and its abbreviations. Certainly the title refers to that internet/texting culture, but the members of the band and the song's lyricist are part of that age group and they've been active users of the technology, and their using L.O.L. makes sense to me. According to Princevault, Hannah Ford was born in 1980. Liv Warfield (credited with the lyrics) was born in 1979--I don't know how old Donna Grantis and Ida Nielsen are--I think Donna's early twenties, and Ida's older. Early twenties for at least half of them, maybe more. From Prince himself, the title might seem weird. He has 30 years on these people, and didn't come of age in a world with today's technology, and has never seemed to incorporate references to modern communication well--even "Emale" and "My Computer" seemed kind of goofy to me (and that was in the '90s), and he's been known to sing that "in this digital age, you can just page me." That's uncomfortable. When Morris and the guys stuck a hashtag on a title ("#Trendin'"), that was kind of ridiculous. It seems more natural for 3rd Eye Girl to use a title like "L.O.L."

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Hannah Ford born in 1980? I tough she was around 25-27 cuz she looks young, she also acts like a teenager sometimes l.o.l but she's very beautiful

I agree that she seems young--so much so that even when I put her birthdate I still messed up the math so that she was about the age she seemed. I went back and added ten years to her and Liv's age on my original post. If I hadn't read yours I wouldn't have caught my error, though.

BobGeorge909 said:

2elijah said:

No, I don't think it was intended specifically for the 'African-American' (not Afro-American which is a term used prior to the 1980s ) community and I don't know why you would assume that, espcially since music has no limitations on who can be inspired by an artist's words. It pretty much sounds like the lyrics can be an inspiration for many situations, i.e., fom not being afraid to 'be' who you are, whether that references, race, sexuality, social activist speaking out against social injustices, not taking bullying from others, etc. It doesn't come off as limited to 'one' particular group within society. I think many people can relate to those lyrics.

AMEN BROTHER! see djj's other thread: http://prince.org/msg/7/394085

I'm not a brother....I'm a female.

I think some of you may be 'barking up the wrong tree' re: the lyrics.

It's very unlikely, judging by his track record and previously expressed beliefs, that Prince would actively promote a song about gay rights.

I think this is pure coincidence personally - the name just seems to match an existing movement - the girls may or may not have been aware but - I think in this song they are talking more generally about living our lives to the full, without fear. To be what we can be.

Regardless of race/sexuality/material or living conditions.

VERY POSITIVE AND UPLIFTING SONG.

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TheFreakerFantastic said:

I think some of you may be 'barking up the wrong tree' re: the lyrics.

It's very unlikely, judging by his track record and previously expressed beliefs, that Prince would actively promote a song about gay rights.

I think this is pure coincidence personally - the name just seems to match an existing movement - the girls may or may not have been aware but - I think in this song they are talking more generally about living our lives to the full, without fear. To be what we can be.

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(Bolded part) That's exactly the impression I get from the lyrics, and I love that message. Too often people are quick to knock you down, pass their negative and miserable bs to you. Tell you what you're not capable of, want to limit your potential, judge you by their own selfish standards, bully you because of their own fears and insecurities, but if you allow them to get the 'best' of you, then you become their prisoners. Conquer that, and be 'you'.

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2elijah said:

BobGeorge909 said:

2elijah said:

No, I don't think it was intended specifically for the 'African-American' (not Afro-American which is a term used prior to the 1980s ) community and I don't know why you would assume that, espcially since music has no limitations on who can be inspired by an artist's words. It pretty much sounds like the lyrics can be an inspiration for many situations, i.e., fom not being afraid to 'be' who you are, whether that references, race, sexuality, social activist speaking out against social injustices, not taking bullying from others, etc. It doesn't come off as limited to 'one' particular group within society. I think many people can relate to those lyrics.

AMEN SISTER! see djj's other thread: http://prince.org/msg/7/394085

I'm not a brother....I'm a female.

I'm curious how this song came about. Was it a song that Liv and Prince ever recorded (with Liv on vocals) sometime in the past using pretty much this music, though obviously not with the 3rd Eye Girls playing? Or did they maybe record a version with different music, and Prince compose a new setting for this new band? Or did Prince just take lyrics Liv had written (that either had her own music or no music)?

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BobGeorge909 said:

2elijah said:

I'm not a brother....I'm a female.

I did scroll and check the name...so I went w/ brother...I'm sorry.

It's ok, it happens a lot because of my username. It represents a child relative of mine.

BobGeorge909 said:

...and Damnit...what r the first two lines of this song....I can't decipher that shit to save my life.

I'm surprised no one posted the lyrics to that song here yet.

BobGeorge909 said:

...and Damnit...what r the first two lines of this song....I can't decipher that shit to save my life.

I think it's

Naturally I am quiet,

Naturally I am regal and proud.

I'm sure about the second line. The first one I'm not absolutely sure about "naturally," but I assume it's supposed to be parallel with the second.

2elijah said:

BobGeorge909 said:

...and Damnit...what r the first two lines of this song....I can't decipher that shit to save my life.

I'm surprised no one posted the lyrics to that song here yet.

BobGeorge did--way back in post #290. Except for the first two lines, it looks good (and I made a suggestion above for those). Always nice when someone transcribes lyrics--I'm too lazy, and not good at hearing them. I'd kind of like it if somebody could go back and add them at the beginning of the song threads when they're posted.

EddieC said:

2elijah said:

I'm surprised no one posted the lyrics to that song here yet.

BobGeorge did--way back in post #290. Except for the first two lines, it looks good (and I made a suggestion above for those). Always nice when someone transcribes lyrics--I'm too lazy, and not good at hearing them. I'd kind of like it if somebody could go back and add them at the beginning of the song threads when they're posted.

Thanks. I see BobGeorge re-posted the lyrics in a thread further below.

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