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Thread started 02/24/13 12:42pm

dJJ

Prince & 3rd Eye Girl support of Gay & Lesbian openness

I read a lot of people complaining about the lyrics of Live Out Loud being simplistic.

It's written by Liv Warfield. She probably wrote about the African American struggle.

Nowadays, the song seems to be about different groups of people that are struggling.

It is suggested that the title of this song refers to

http://www.liveoutloud.info/

If they intended it that way,

I'm really impressed by Prince and the 3rd Eye Girls, to make a loud statement in support of Gay and Lesbian people.

I think it's so important that young people dare to be what they are and not hide that they are homosexual.

I really think Prince & NPG deserve the love from the fanbase for their loud and open statement!

Thank you Prince, Hannah, Donna and Ida for this song.

And thank to Liv Warfield for writing it.

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Reply #1 posted 02/24/13 12:57pm

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What about this song tells u it about "the African American struggle"? Edit: I hope it isn't just cuz the word ghetto appears in it.

I've had 34 years to experience live out loud used as an expression for the cause of black people in this country....and this is the first....if it is what u say.

Hannah...I dont know much about Liv....but Hannah is continually speaking of spirituality and religion and jesuse/god type stuff. Somewhat hyper-religious to a degree, especially for the typical younger person of today. I got the distinct feeling it was a reference to open discussion of spirituality that a section of the youth have these days in a increasingly secular business. Hannah at least....not sure of Ida or Donna, or Liv....but Hannah seems to wear her spirituality on her sleeve and it seems to be a reference to that.


Whatever is going on tho....I don't think it has ANYthing to do with being black....none of the 6 eyes in this 3 girl band is enveloped in brown skin.
[Edited 2/24/13 13:06pm]
[Edited 2/24/13 13:35pm]
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Reply #2 posted 02/24/13 1:24pm

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What EYE get out of the song is a direct invitation for one to be confident of one's self and to not be scared of sharing yourself, your ideas, your feelings with the world, whatever you, your ideas, or feelings may be. Communication is one of a creatures biggest asset...utilize it goddamnit.



For instance.....I'm an atheist....and it seems to fit my cause to the "T".
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Reply #3 posted 02/24/13 1:51pm

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So Hannah talks about Jesus all the time? Well, what do you expect from someone who hangs around with Prince...
And as for the lyrics, I'm sorry, DJJ, even if your interpretation is correct, I still find them a bunch of cliches.
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Reply #4 posted 02/24/13 1:53pm

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BobGeorge909 said:

What EYE get out of the song is a direct invitation for one to be confident of one's self and to not be scared of sharing yourself, your ideas, your feelings with the world, whatever you, your ideas, or feelings may be. Communication is one of a creatures biggest asset...utilize it goddamnit. For instance.....I'm an atheist....and it seems to fit my cause to the "T". [Edited 2/24/13 13:37pm]

I totally agree with you. I don't think the message of the song is limited to one particular group. We live in a society where people are quick to judge, and embrace 'negativity' faster than they would embrace a positive attitude, a smile, love or give compliments at the same rate.

[Edited 2/24/13 13:56pm]

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Reply #5 posted 02/24/13 1:59pm

dJJ

BobGeorge909 said:

What about this song tells u it about "the African American struggle"?

That was suggested in other thread.

Edit: I hope it isn't just cuz the word ghetto appears in it. I've had 34 years to experience live out loud used as an expression for the cause of black people in this country....and this is the first....if it is what u say. Hannah...I dont know much about Liv....but Hannah is continually speaking of spirituality and religion and jesuse/god type stuff. Somewhat hyper-religious to a degree, especially for the typical younger person of today. I got the distinct feeling it was a reference to open discussion of spirituality that a section of the youth have these days in a increasingly secular business. Hannah at least....not sure of Ida or Donna, or Liv....but Hannah seems to wear her spirituality on her sleeve and it seems to be a reference to that. Whatever is going on tho....I don't think it has ANYthing to do with being black....none of the 6 eyes in this 3 girl band is enveloped in brown skin. [Edited 2/24/13 13:06pm] [Edited 2/24/13 13:35pm]

It was sug

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Reply #6 posted 02/24/13 2:01pm

dJJ

It seems that I'm pretty one the only one who thought it is an indirect support of

the live out loud website and it's community.

Wishfull thinking on my part?

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Reply #7 posted 02/24/13 2:06pm

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prince's stance on homosexuality has been rather shady

over the last decade or so, probably inspired by his new

religious fervour.

whatever this song is supposed to mean, it's not, imo, in

support of gay and lesbian openness.

i deliberately chose to ignore some of the comments he's

made over the last decade so i don't really remember an

example to quote. but he's made me cringe several times

with his ignorant and simplistic views on gay people.

and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
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Reply #8 posted 02/24/13 2:21pm

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As I posted on the other thread -

I think some of you may be 'barking up the wrong tree' re: the lyrics.

It's very unlikely, judging by his track record and previously expressed beliefs, that Prince would actively promote a song about gay rights.

I think this is pure coincidence personally - the name just seems to match an existing movement - the girls may or may not have been aware but - I think in this song they are talking more generally about living our lives to the full, without fear. To be what we can be.

Regardless of race/sexuality/material or living conditions.

This still results in a very POSITVE AND UPLIFTING SONG.

[Edited 2/24/13 14:27pm]

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Reply #9 posted 02/24/13 2:30pm

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2elijah said:



BobGeorge909 said:


What EYE get out of the song is a direct invitation for one to be confident of one's self and to not be scared of sharing yourself, your ideas, your feelings with the world, whatever you, your ideas, or feelings may be. Communication is one of a creatures biggest asset...utilize it goddamnit. For instance.....I'm an atheist....and it seems to fit my cause to the "T". [Edited 2/24/13 13:37pm]


I totally agree with you. I don't think the message of the song is limited to one particular group. We live in a society where people are quick to judge, and embrace 'negativity' faster than they would embrace a positive attitude, a smile, love or give compliments at the same rate.

[Edited 2/24/13 13:56pm]



Many @ the org hv zealously committed themselves to this ethos unfortunately. All 4 Internet fame lol
[Edited 2/24/13 14:31pm]
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Reply #10 posted 02/24/13 2:34pm

2elijah

dJJ said:

BobGeorge909 said:

Edit: I hope it isn't just cuz the word ghetto appears in it. I've had 34 years to experience live out loud used as an expression for the cause of black people in this country....and this is the first....if it is what u say. Hannah...I dont know much about Liv....but Hannah is continually speaking of spirituality and religion and jesuse/god type stuff. Somewhat hyper-religious to a degree, especially for the typical younger person of today. I got the distinct feeling it was a reference to open discussion of spirituality that a section of the youth have these days in a increasingly secular business. Hannah at least....not sure of Ida or Donna, or Liv....but Hannah seems to wear her spirituality on her sleeve and it seems to be a reference to that. Whatever is going on tho....I don't think it has ANYthing to do with being black....none of the 6 eyes in this 3 girl band is enveloped in brown skin. [Edited 2/24/13 13:06pm] [Edited 2/24/13 13:35pm]

It was sug

If you did get that impression from the use of the term 'ghetto' in the song, then maybe she meant that no matter where you come from, iincluding the ghetto, doesn't mean life ends there, and that there's a whole world beyond that to explore. Like I said before, the message in the song can be an inspiration for many societal situations; not limited to race, sexuality, social activism, bullying, etc. You get the picture. smile

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Reply #11 posted 02/24/13 2:35pm

2elijah

Praxis said:

2elijah said:

I totally agree with you. I don't think the message of the song is limited to one particular group. We live in a society where people are quick to judge, and embrace 'negativity' faster than they would embrace a positive attitude, a smile, love or give compliments at the same rate.

[Edited 2/24/13 13:56pm]

Many @ the org hv zealously committed themselves to this ethos unfortunately. All 4 Internet fame lol [Edited 2/24/13 14:31pm]

lol I have to agree with you. thumbs up!

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Reply #12 posted 02/24/13 3:00pm

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The song, including interpretation of the lyrics, is discussed on the sticky thread:

http://prince.org/msg/7/393965

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