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And let us not forget that Prince is the guy who went into business with a company to create his 3121 perfume solely because their name was "Revelations" or something, without looking any deeper than that. And I believe they went to court afterward? | |
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I hope Chris and the members of the River Group do in fact give you a refund. It looks like Chris Arnold is getting heat for the tacky way in which he did business with all, according to that video by that news station. Even the Goss Foundation stated they were assured "up to the minute" by the River Group, that the show would go on, even when members of the Goss Foundation was leary and concerned about the River Group's lack of funds to pull off this event. Basically, with all the problems they were having with low ticket sales and bad weather, Chris basically should have cancelled the event. [Edited 2/6/11 20:15pm] | |
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Not one mention of Erykah Badu having to make gestures of any kind. So is she not expected to do anything to minimize the public relations fallout. The media are simply using Prince's name to sell papers and get airtime. Since that's what they do it's not unexpected but it's inaccurate to make this a story about Prince. So if people feel the need to be mad at someone there's a long list it seems and Prince may be on it but he's not on it alone. When go 2 a Prince concert or related event it's all up in the house but when log onto this site and the miasma of bitchiness is completely overwhelming! | |
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I haven't read anything that specifies Prince's "involvement" as you state as a catalyst.
How could you imply such?
I said there was a major superbowl sponsor listed. | |
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(blue part) I agree. Controversy sells. (no pun intended) and by making that cancellation look like it was all Prince's fault, the media sources took advantage of his name to get their readers/viewers' attention and to sell a story. I wonder if the same media sources would have given that event, this much attention had the event happened, and Prince and Erykah performed. [Edited 2/6/11 20:21pm] | |
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Do you think anyone paid $1,500 or more to go to that concert to see Erykah Badu? I didn't even know who she was until she made the news recently for stripping naked in downtown Dallas while making a music video. She may be a wonderful soul singer but she wasn't the draw for this incredibly expensive concert. If you don't believe me, just go to the website, which is tellingly named www.princedallas.com, and you will see a big photo of Prince with his guitar.
I hope that Erykah does do something for the scholarship recipients as someone suggested. That would be very nice of her. And I agree that, like Prince, she could have smelled a rat here. Perhaps even more so because she is from Dallas. But the concert would not have been a possibility without Prince. [Edited 2/6/11 20:21pm] The Census Bureau estimates that there are 2,518 American Indians and Alaska Natives currently living in the city of Long Beach. | |
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I don't think the media made this "look like it was all Prince's fault." If anything, WFAA pointed the finger at the concert organizers, as did the Dallas Observer. Should they have edited the story to omit any references to Prince? The Census Bureau estimates that there are 2,518 American Indians and Alaska Natives currently living in the city of Long Beach. | |
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Looks as if there were several snafus at this super bowl. Some 800 fans got kicked out of their seats and missed the kick off. | |
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Name me a news organization that makes money off making a story about prince? lmao | |
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Just to put this in perspective, here's some correspondence from the Dallas Morning News comment section:
WEEZIEPrince was a very hot property in the 1980s. Then, through some bad business decisions, he screwed up his career. Now he's a has been with the ego of a headliner. Look up "Little Red Corvette" or "1999" on YouTube.
The Census Bureau estimates that there are 2,518 American Indians and Alaska Natives currently living in the city of Long Beach. | |
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That is a damn shame.
Prince really should just hire professionals. He is not a good businessman and sucks at managing himself. | |
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What I mean is that Prince had to be the key to this deal from the beginning. Imagine the following hypothetical conversation between Chris Arnold and someone from Bud Light:
CA: "I'm organizing a concert. Do you want to be a sponsor?" BL: "Who are you and what company do you represent?" CA: "I'm a local radio personality. You may remember my exciting sports reporting on Mavericks games. I represent a new company that has just been formed (or is about to be formed)." BL: "So what exactly is your plan for this concert?" CA: "We're going to charge a minimum of $1,500 for general admission tickets, and from $12,000 to $25,000 for VIP seats." BL: "Who do you have lined up to perform?" CA: "Erykah Badu. You know, the woman who stripped naked in downtown Dallas. Plus some DJs."
Which of the following do you think would be the most likely response? BL: "That sounds great! It's sure to be a success. Sign us up!" BL: "You must be joking. Call us back if you get a real star." The Census Bureau estimates that there are 2,518 American Indians and Alaska Natives currently living in the city of Long Beach. | |
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P.S. Let me emphasize that I have nothing against Erykah Badu and I don't mean to diminish her accomplishments. But this event was taken seriously only because it involved Prince. If he had backed out, the deal would have collapsed. The same isn't true for Erykah. The Census Bureau estimates that there are 2,518 American Indians and Alaska Natives currently living in the city of Long Beach. | |
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If as you said..."there was a major superbowl sponsor listed"...meaning that it's good NAME (which I did see you post in your earlier comment before you edited it) was attached in any way to this epic PR cluster fuck. There HAD to be a damn good reason...for them to have ever considered investing...the kind of money that was needed to pull it off.
With all things considered...there is only ONE...damn good factor...that is clearly seen...for that ever possibly happening.
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Yes, this Prince story is just part of a long series of tales of greed gone awry. The lesson that my wife is taking from this is that I shouldn't buy tickets to a Prince concert. Too bad, because it would have been her first one. The Census Bureau estimates that there are 2,518 American Indians and Alaska Natives currently living in the city of Long Beach. | |
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Neither!
As much as I absolutely adore Erykah Badu...and I really do, too! I think the most likely response in that sort of scenario...would have been...
BL: CLICK!
. [Edited 2/6/11 20:59pm] I knew from the start that I loved you with all my heart. | |
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i'm sorry that's dumb. | |
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If the media wasn't interested in Prince, some of them wouldn't have jumped to print anything about the cancelled event or make what happened yesterday their headline news, without researching the facts behind it. Controversy sells, so-to-speak, and obviously they saw his name as newsworthy or they wouldn't have taken the time to report the story. I'm not interested in the nasty comments about it, because like any artist/celebrity, people will always have opinions about them whether it's good or bad. If I want to read that type of ignorant nonsense, there's always the National Enquirer.
The funny thing is, some people b*tch, whine and moan about artists/celebrities 24/7 that they don't like, yet spend half their time discussing them all day. That's pretty hilarious, considering they could spend their time doing something else.Anyway, it's been a long discussion and hopefully the event planners will refund money to those who paid to come to the event.
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What you have typed is fantasy. Are you kidding? Comment on a purely made up conversation? Now you are completely fabricating scenarios? Making stuff up? Where are you getting your information?
You're grasping for air trying to make a point that's going nowhere.
The facts as they've been reported have been noted again and again. The promoter couldn't put the deal together, period.
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You're right! It's a completely fabricated scenario. Now, if you please, you explain to me how this concert, with its outrageous prices, could have been a success (and attracted major corporate sponsorship) without Prince as the star performer. The Census Bureau estimates that there are 2,518 American Indians and Alaska Natives currently living in the city of Long Beach. | |
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more speculation? I think not. you keep shifting like a schooner on rough seas. | |
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Well, I'm just trying to understand your reasoning. It seems to me that you're saying that Prince could have agreed to the concert on the basis that Bud Light was a sponsor. But would Bud Light have agreed to sponsor an event that was doomed to fail? Could a concert during Super Bowl weekend, charging tickets of $1,500 and up, have been anything but a failure without a major star attached to it? If the answer to both questions is "no," then Bud Light was not the key to this deal. Honestly, I don't even see how anyone could argue that this concert might have been taken seriously without Prince's name attached to it. Prince could have killed the deal at any point. Do you dispute that? The Census Bureau estimates that there are 2,518 American Indians and Alaska Natives currently living in the city of Long Beach. | |
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This point...that I've grasped...seems pretty solid!
http://www.wfaa.com/sport...99269.html
At least one of those "potential investors" was the hypothesized investor in the scenario that I commented on. If the major investors pulled out three weeks ago...that would be a about week after Erykah signed on and the event had already been billed and sold...for weeks with only Prince as the draw.
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All of that is pure conjecture, isn't it? You don't know, I don't know. Lets stick to what we do know (or what has been reported.) The promoter could not put the deal together.
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I've said many times before that I'm angry at the organizers. Others may blame Erykah. If I don't get reimbursed soon, my wife will be upset at me for buying the tickets. My unborn child may one day be mad that I spent money on this instead of toys or college tuition or whatever. What is starting to bug me is that people want to take Prince out of the equation entirely because he must be just an innocent lamb who happened to be caught in a bad situation. You can blame whoever you want, but understand that some of those who were invited to perform at "the Event featuring Prince" or who bought tickets for said Event are going to direct some of that anger at Prince. And if you care about Prince's reputation, as some do, it's worth discussing what he could do differently to avoid being blamed for these situations in the future. The Census Bureau estimates that there are 2,518 American Indians and Alaska Natives currently living in the city of Long Beach. | |
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People who leave comments on blogs and news sites are some of the most ignorant people on the face of the planet.
Just go on Yahoo, and you'll see why. If they're not going FIRST! in every post, they're usually saying something racist or homophobic.
Do you really expect someone named "Weezie" to be a smart individual???
This really isn't about this topic in particular, but one of the worst things about the internet is giving anonymous morons an outlet. [Edited 2/6/11 21:54pm] JERKIN' EVERYTHING IN SIGHT!!!!! | |
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I agree with what you say. Unfortunately, like most Prince fans, I have to defend him to friends who are similarly ignorant. That's why it hurts when we feel like he doesn't care about us. The Census Bureau estimates that there are 2,518 American Indians and Alaska Natives currently living in the city of Long Beach. | |
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This does not sound too good for someone trying to get their money back according to this attorney...? Sounds like more shady crap. | |
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One thing for sure the people in NYC will probably get a helluva concert Monday night, P will probably take this fiasco out on his Guitar! hee hee | |
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Cracks me up Prince commands over a million dollars a performance... | |
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Das Kapital
10:18 AM on February 6, 2011
On behalf of most of America -- ESPECIALLY anyone who's under 40 yrs old -- allow me to ask the obvious question:
Who the bleep is "Prince"?