dreamshaman32 said:

Well said.

wonder505 said:

wonder what are you a Prince zombie???

Madison88 said:

heck no. just don't understand why people claim to be done with prince keep coming back for more. even his haters are hooked.

for those of you on this thread slamming prince i'm not sure what you feel like you need from him, a role model? a spiritual guide?. Prince is an imperfect human who found something he believes is stabilizing for him, and for that i say good. he's a rock and roll star LOL a sheltered guy who never worked a day in his life and will always be a child in certain ways. none of this shit ( prop 8, the elections nor health care) will never hit home with him as it would a real adult who has to work 8 hours a day. He was making music and $ when our current president was but a college freshman, how can we consider anything he believes in his alternative universe to be so relevant to our lives. Hell, Prince aint even at the peak of his celeberty LOL, he's a legend no doubt but a fringe celeberty only relevant when he picks up a guitar. I love prince for what he's given me with his art but at this current moment this is a guy who is close to 20 years removed from a relevant peice of work which is kind of his job. So, calm down, continue to love the wack job ( cus you know you do) and pray that he can keep it together enough to at the very least do his job in 2009.If he cant focus enough to do that then it is he who is committing the great sin.

psychodelicide said:

For real.



LOL.

for those of you on this thread slamming prince i'm not sure what you feel like you need from him, a role model? a spiritual guide?. Prince is an imperfect human who found something he believes is stabilizing for him, and for that i say good. he's a rock and roll star LOL a sheltered guy who never worked a day in his life and will always be a child in certain ways. none of this shit ( prop 8, the elections nor health care) will never hit home with him as it would a real adult who has to work 8 hours a day. He was making music and $ when our current president was but a college freshman, how can we consider anything he believes in his alternative universe to be so relevant to our lives. Hell, Prince aint even at the peak of his celeberty LOL, he's a legend no doubt but a fringe celeberty only relevant when he picks up a guitar. I love prince for what he's given me with his art but at this current moment this is a guy who is close to 20 years removed from a relevant peice of work which is kind of his job. So, calm down, continue to love the wack job ( cus you know you do) and pray that he can keep it together enough to at the very least do his job in 2009.If he cant focus enough to do that then it is he who is committing the great sin.

for those of you on this thread slamming prince i'm not sure what you feel like you need from him, a role model? a spiritual guide?. Prince is an imperfect human who found something he believes is stabilizing for him, and for that i say good. he's a rock and roll star LOL a sheltered guy who never worked a day in his life and will always be a child in certain ways. none of this shit ( prop 8, the elections nor health care) will never hit home with him as it would a real adult who has to work 8 hours a day. He was making music and $ when our current president was but a college freshman, how can we consider anything he believes in his alternative universe to be so relevant to our lives. Hell, Prince aint even at the peak of his celeberty LOL, he's a legend no doubt but a fringe celeberty only relevant when he picks up a guitar. I love prince for what he's given me with his art but at this current moment this is a guy who is close to 20 years removed from a relevant peice of work which is kind of his job. So, calm down, continue to love the wack job ( cus you know you do) and pray that he can keep it together enough to at the very least do his job in 2009.If he cant focus enough to do that then it is he who is committing the great sin.

Prince cant even write coherantly about feelings (wheres the song for gregory?) given his awesome talent,

i agree with prince.


even wearing flip flops with socks on. thats the japanese style. he really knows what time it it¡s!

I don't get it. He says that certain thngs are not in the bible. Then points to it for his answer. I don't recall gay rights mentioned in the Bible. I know he's a JW now, but there was a time he'd be sticking it wherever and doing it with whatever.

PleasurePrinciple said:

Hmmm...how can I get you to answer my original question? Methinks you want to divert attention!!

kjamal said:

Why, because he has is own oppinions about things?



That is not fair. The bible is black and white. If it says something is wrong, then it is wrong. There are fools out there that judge folks because of their interpretation but Prince isn't doing that. He was pointing things out and that was it. Now those folks who blow up abortion clinics and stand outside funerals and curse the families because the person was gay is so far from the bible...and everyone who comes from the bible shouldn't be compared to those idiots. Plus, saying these things about Prince is just as bad as what you are accusing P of doing.



Go right ahead and make a fool of yourself. I don't believe in homosexuality but I love them as a person. I have never told a gay joke. I work with and have sat down and ate with gay people. They have been at my house. I have family members who are gay. I still don't like what they are doing...That is my oppinion. Did you hear Prince (even in the mis-quotes) say anything negitive? He was sharing his beliefs and that was it. I have seen pictures of Prince and Ellen long after he became a JW and I am sure they are friends.

Question for you: If Prince said he doesn't like people who cheat on their spouses would you still slam Prince and protest? There are certain things in life that people accept and don't accept and that is thier life. As long as we treat everyone with respeact that is all that matters.

Much love...

pald1 said:

I'll answer your question. Since fear and ignorance are simply being afraid and having lack of knowledge, then opposing gay marriage is not based on fear and ignorance as the opponents have researched their position so thouroughly as to allow prop 8 in california to pass and that amendment (cant think of the title) to pass in florida. the proponents of these measures would have had to come up with some very compelling and logical arguments to even get on the ballot. And before you go calling the marjority of Americans who voted for these initiatives fearful and ignorant, remember these same Americans voted overwhelmingly for Obama and for change - so they are hardly fearful or ignorant to vote for a black guy with a funny name to be leader of the most powerful country in the world.

These people appear to me to be divided into two groups; the group that doesn't believe politics s/b involved in this discussion and the group that thinks religion goes hand in hand with politics and therefore their religious beliefs are in opposition to gay marriage. Both groups do not want gay marriage being considered a norm and tought to their kids. I don't blame them one bit, the schools can barely get kids reading and writing. The one difference btwn the groups I think is that one group feels civil unions are enuf of an equivalent to marriage and that marriage s/not be redefined and the other group feels that gov't is already too involved in civil matters period. Its not about fear or ignorance IMO but about how far does gov't intrude in people's lives either for the better or worse? I'll tell you one thing, the vandalism of property as has been reported in the news is not helping the cause of ppl supporting gay marriage.

i understand everyone has a right to express outrage but boycotts? i dont think hes important enough for the distinction-but hey i'm a black man who didnt feel oj was important enough to "frame" LOL. I am also a proud parent of a lesbian so i guess i dont have to say where i stand on prop 8, i just believe there are bigger fish to fry. Prince made himself a small fish by # 1 representing a "truth" and not playing it to the hilt. Dont compare him to little richard, he had the balls to wash off the make up and preach for real, as long as prince is sitting there in high heels ( a lie about his stature when i've been 5'4 all my life and never been complelled to go there) wearing flawless make up ( a lie about the affects of ageing and masculine features he was born with) and numerous other worldly mistruths (hairdye anyone?) i cant take the man seriuosly.Wanda Sykes to me is someone i want to hear on the subject as a straight male who is concerned with human rights because prop 8 affects her daily life and her right to be happy. Prince cant even write coherantly about feelings (wheres the song for gregory?)given his awesome talent, remember he created textspeak LOL. So with prince it's like any other loved one, i accept him as that flawed but really interesting friend, when he's "on"( as in holding a guitar) i'm there but when he talks i realize he's not coming from a very realistic place. I'm not giving him a pass i'm just saying step back and look at who is saying this shit and ask yourself "do i truly rely on this mothafucka for wisdom?". To take a line from him if you do that says more about you than him. It's prince, i rely on him for funk, falsetto balads and amazing guitar work and thats about it so if all he wants is my money i'm not heartbroken.
[Edited 11/18/08 8:32am]

dreamshaman32 said:

Again, I think you make some really good points. I hear where you're coming from about Prince's comments "not being important enough" to boycott, but I think if someone feels conflicted enough by someone's comments that they don't feel good supporting that person's art, then maybe it's healthier FOR THE FAN to step away from that artist for a while. Call it a boycott, call it a vacation, call it a trial separation - I think it's a perfectly valid response.

I've gone through 25 years of seeing and hearing Prince do things that I haven't always been crazy about, and sometimes his words and deeds have made me downright angry at the man. But not enough for me to pack up my Prince music and call it a day. The person who made the classic albums that made me a fan may not be the same person who's calling himself Prince today, but that doesn't devalue the old skool Prince who I grew up admiring. "Controversy", for example, was not written by a person who believed in intolerance, and so I value it for what it was and what it still is (to me).

Sometimes you have to separate the art from the artist, because the art sometimes has a life and mind of its own. That said, I certainly don't hold the Lovesexy album responsible for Prince's words or deeds circa 2008.

It's amazing the amount of people who think they are in a position to judge Prince as human being. To use the word hypocrite is crass. If Prince is living a Christian lifestyle now, his past doesn't make him a hypocrite. I used to get drunk at least once a week, now that I have gained Bible knowledge I no longer abuse alcohol. Does that make me a hypocrite? Of course not! People can and do change.

Anxiety said:

controversy was written by someone very naive , dweeb and ignorant or someone that just wanted to be seen.

hwbefhbwvfbqiiuvb said:

okay, well, controversy was also written by someone who liked doritos and kraft mac & cheese. not really my point, though.

This (gay marriage), as with anything else will be allowed or not based on the majority rule. It wasn't that long ago that the majority of well meaning people thought that women shouldn't have the right to vote...one of many things once thought to be right that is now considered wrong. What about burning people at the stake because they were "thought" to be witches? Wasn’t it thought to be okay because it was what God wanted? I don’t know who’s God they were following, it sure wasn’t mine, was it yours?

How do WE truly know what GOD wants....from a book written and re-written over how many years?? Research what it is your following, and if you have, bravo. ask yourself, does God, of all beings makes mistakes? Do you think God, a being that has and IS EVEYTHING needs anything from us, if so why?

I KNOW in MY heart that the topics we focus on today are not the topics that GOD really cares about. If we fought as hard to protect the oppressed, those starving, abused, and too many other injustices in this world....how much closer to heaven and on earth and God would we be?

God help all of us who would rather argue about who can marry whom then the best ways to stop the destruction of the earth and eachother.....
What if all we are meant to do here in this earthly life is to realize who we really are and from the place we originated? To come as close to God in word and did as Jesus did?

How many of us, ALL of us are really asking and truthful answering that old questions...”What WOULD Jesus do?"