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Sdldawn said: congrats to him... too bad it doesn't make the music any better.
having said that.. isn't this amount of sales for a week for a no.1 album low? i can't recall a usuall amount for a no. 1 maybe its all the rest of those shit albums that keep me thinkin its low [Edited 3/28/06 19:56pm] Yeah, I think it's fairly low numbers but enough to propel him to #1!! Madonna's Confessions on a Dance Floor debuted at #1 last year selling 350,000 copies. "Just like the sun, the Rainbow Children rise."
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Well, well, well, how about that? Prince's 3121 debuts at #1! That's  !
 Wonders if the naysayers are happy now?
Oops, I just checked the rest of the thread...I guess not!!!!  [Edited 3/29/06 10:04am] | |
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Aerogram said: Handclapsfingasnapz said: they don't. They don't and they do. They don't because a great album's a great album no matter if it sells poorly or well. Some of the "best albums of all time", as picked by reasonably well-informed critics, didn't sell well but were influential like Nico & the Velvet Underground. They do business-wise, though Prince went a long way toward making this all relarive, with his much greater share of $$$ per cd, though everyone knows the money's in touring. And in terms of immediate cultural impact, yeah they do, and it's always nice to know the music is getting heard by a wider audience.But at the end of the day, like I said, a great album's a great album, and a number 1 crappy record is still a crappy one. Great assessment. Chart impact has no bearing on musical quality. However, I can't help but be happy for Prince. It is clear that he was aiming for a hit record here, and I'll be...he got it! Renfield's post is quite eloquent and well-stated. This is vindication for Prince after all of those years in the shadows, and the relative success of Musicology and now 3121, particularly in live settings, affirm that for all of his quirks and illogical decisions, Prince is still revered and relevant as a musician. Feel free to join in the Prince Album Poll 2018! Let'a celebrate his legacy by counting down the most beloved Prince albums, as decided by you! | |
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"Just like the sun, the Rainbow Children rise."
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When does billboard.com update their charts?? "Just like the sun, the Rainbow Children rise."
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mrbobgeorge said: Since I purchased mine at Starbucks out of laziness,make it
184,451  Are Starbucks copies not counted on Billboard/Soundscan charts? | |
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What's next?? A #1 single??!! Can Black Sweat do it?? "Just like the sun, the Rainbow Children rise."
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rainbowchild said: When does billboard.com update their charts??
Tomorrow morning billboard will post it as a news item and on thursday morning the charts will be updated but the news item will talk about comaprisons too so its more worthy and in 2006 so far only one album has opened with higher numbers then 3121 and madonnas coadf opened around thanks givin when album sales r very brisk [Edited 3/28/06 20:29pm] |
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 a psychotic is someone who just figured out what's going on | |
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Hot damn.  | |
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Moonbeam said: Aerogram said: They don't and they do. They don't because a great album's a great album no matter if it sells poorly or well. Some of the "best albums of all time", as picked by reasonably well-informed critics, didn't sell well but were influential like Nico & the Velvet Underground. They do business-wise, though Prince went a long way toward making this all relarive, with his much greater share of $$$ per cd, though everyone knows the money's in touring. And in terms of immediate cultural impact, yeah they do, and it's always nice to know the music is getting heard by a wider audience.But at the end of the day, like I said, a great album's a great album, and a number 1 crappy record is still a crappy one. Great assessment. Chart impact has no bearing on musical quality. However, I can't help but be happy for Prince. It is clear that he was aiming for a hit record here, and I'll be...he got it! Renfield's post is quite eloquent and well-stated. This is vindication for Prince after all of those years in the shadows, and the relative success of Musicology and now 3121, particularly in live settings, affirm that for all of his quirks and illogical decisions, Prince is still revered and relevant as a musician. Well said! 
It is about vindication, not just musically, but as a business model to some extent. When Prince went through his nasty (and very public) divorce from WB most folks labeled him a fruitcake and proclaimed his career over. Walk away from a $100 million contract? He's a loon. He's committed career suicide. He'll never recover. And for awhile this proved to be the case. Distribution and publicity dried up except for negative press and jokes. The music suffered as well imho. But one of the points of this exercise had to do with the very real issues of intellectual property rights and music industry practices that don't work to the advantage of artistic expression. Prince has looked for ways to create a new business model that allows for music to be both lucrative and created on its own terms. He's made many attempts at this -- internet distribution, mail order, CD give-aways with the concert ticket, variations on the theme of one-album deals with the majors. The successful return of Prince to the charts sets a precedent for a career strategy. Chart position, right or wrong, is a standard measure of success in the industry, so if Prince can attain success on the industry's terms, it blazes a trail. And folks say Prince isn't innovative anymore..... I've gone to find myself. If I should return before I get back, keep me here. | |
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Woo hoo!  ~Stephanie~
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HalluRain said: It is about vindication, not just musically, but as a business model to some extent.
honestly, the only vindication i see from anyone at times like this is from the fanbase alone. it totally bugs the shit outta me, as if some of ya'll need to have constant signs or something. | |
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Handclapsfingasnapz said: HalluRain said: It is about vindication, not just musically, but as a business model to some extent.
honestly, the only vindication i see from anyone at times like this is from the fanbase alone. it totally bugs the shit outta me, as if some of ya'll need to have constant signs or something. Its no different then sports, politics, or monopoly. Its all a contest. Like it or not. If you dont care, you are in the minority. (Insert something clever here) |
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| HAIL (better than the hockey stick thing) FREAKIN YEAH!!!!!
He was already #1 in my  (book) It's just nice 2 C that others have finally caught a CLUE 
Way 2 Go Mr. Nelson ~ You truly are Beautiful ~ Loved ~ & Blessed  ?Cause me and u could have been a work of art
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DarkKnight1 said: Its no different then sports, politics, or monopoly. Its all a contest.
to me, art should never be a contest.  | |
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This is great news. It's been a long time coming. Hey help the man out and call your fair weather Prince fan friends and tell them to buy this album. Not for the sake of the charts, but because it's a great album. Have fun y'all, and let's have a group prayer that the tour starts soon. | |
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For me, it started all in 1982, I was 12 at the time...
Damn, I feel 12 again today!!!!! Congratulationzzzzz Funky Man!! U made my day (and more... ) | |
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Handclapsfingasnapz said: DarkKnight1 said: Its no different then sports, politics, or monopoly. Its all a contest.
to me, art should never be a contest. If it wasnt a contest, there wouldnt be charts. His chart position doesnt change my listening habits either. But it is still a little gratifying to see my favorite musician back on top and in the spotlight. Kinda like when the Cowboys won superbowls back in the 90's. Our favorite teams/players/musicians are believe it or not a reflection of who we are or what we like. (Insert something clever here) |
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Well Done. It's been eight years, but worth the wait. cracknbush | |
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I'm happy 4 Prince, he deserves it! The album grows on me with every listen. I can't wait 4 Tamars new cd. Can anybody say.....Tour of the Year '06! U,ME,WE!....2FUNKY! | |
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DarkKnight1 said: Handclapsfingasnapz said: to me, art should never be a contest. If it wasnt a contest, there wouldnt be charts. His chart position doesnt change my listening habits either. But it is still a little gratifying to see my favorite musician back on top and in the spotlight. Kinda like when the Cowboys won superbowls back in the 90's. Our favorite teams/players/musicians are believe it or not a reflection of who we are or what we like. sure, but unlike most people i really don't need instant gratification/vindication by the way of seeing my favorite artists get awards. i dig who i dig because of what they do and how they do it, not because of whatever kudos and tangible awards they receive or are/should/could/would be capable of receiving. | |
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Maybe u guys can help me understand; how do u know a week in advance that a album is going to sell nearly 200k and a week later it sells 184k copies.If though u know the out come before the out come.Somebody please help me out. | |
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....and with that Funky bizness takin care of, bring on the Tour of the YEAR! U,ME,WE!....2FUNKY! | |
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BELL6983 said: Maybe u guys can help me understand; how do u know a week in advance that a album is going to sell nearly 200k and a week later it sells 184k copies.If though u know the out come before the out come.Somebody please help me out.
It's just estimates, numbers pumped by Hits Daily Double...the interesting part is the album may still hit 200, 000 (for those who care...) because of the Starbuck numbers...the 184 is not an official number...Daily Double have been known to be 20, 000 to 100, 000 off... [Edited 3/28/06 21:21pm] | |
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BELL6983 said: How do u know a cd will sell nearly 200k a week in advance and a week later it sells nearly 200k.
he has a loyal fanbase of 100,000 or so, and it's probably been assumed that Prince has picked up some fans since Musicology, the tour, the new videos, the commercials, ads, SNL performance, etc. oh yeah, and those who buy extra copies for their friends and family (especially since this is a GREAT album), not to mention trying to find the purple ticket | |
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Wow, suddenly charts matter. 
The album is still bland. | |
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