alandail said:

that's still hot...

alandail said:

that's still hot...

and i agree! raquel is a very beautiful woman. her orginal name: Jo Raquel Tejada. she became Raquel Welch when she married James Welch.

[Edited 12/22/11 18:22pm]

Visionnaire said:

there are also a shitload of young 20 year olds out there that can increase the mass & density of my dick within nanoseconds by just the way they look. Which makes 'em hot, on an instantaneous level.

If this is the definition of hot, then it stands to reason that it's the youth/fertility/genetics aspect doing the attracting - all the physical aspects that call attention to a woman's ability to bear children. It would then also stand to reason that hotness tapers off as signs of her fertility wane.

We do things to make ourselves appear to still be fertile (long after our ovaries have pushed out their last eggs), colour our hair, go to the gym, wear push-up bras etc. Call it mutton dressed as lamb, call it being the best we can be. Whatevs, same thing. If "hotness" defined this way is to determine whether a woman will be a suitable vessel for a man's seed, with desirable genes to make your kids awesome, then you can't really argue with biology.

AND Jennifer Anniston can't possibly hot, she would most likely need IVF to conceive at her advanced age so there's your answer. As soon as you are over 30, if you have your first baby, the hospital calls you an elderly primigravida

and yet, she was voted hottest woman on earth

Luckily it seems to have nothing much to do with fertility most of the time

As lifespans lengthen, things like this has to change, IMO. People don't stay with the same partner all their lives, lives are just tooooo loooooooong for that! I think we are evolving to remain attractive to the opposite sex in ways other than just fertility.

Someone touched on the marrying plain janes aspect earlier, I'd like to expand on that

Men instantly want to fuck a hot chick - easy explanation (see above) and some men are simply walking life support systems for their dicks

if a woman is not hot, then there have other things (aside from youth/fertility/genes) she has going on that makes her attractive, right?

What are they? what men are the ones going down that road? Ones intimidated by a woman's hotness? Ones that fear a hot woman will not be faithful?

I love these topics so much to think about!

Hotness has no expiration date.

DarkKnight1 said:

Hotness has no expiration date.

OMG

JustErin said:

MoniGram said:

I don't think so!

Really? Do you really look at yourself after age 35 and be like, "Yeah! Everything is looking so much better as I age"?

Seriously, after 35 everything starts to go downhill, that's just a fact of life.

Honestly if I would show you a pic when I was in my 20's and a pic of me at 40, you would say...hey way better!!!

DarkKnight1 said:

Hotness has no expiration date.

Say what you will, but I say hotness ends at death. But to each his own.

Another thing. I think women set higher standards for themselves than men set for them. You can't blame it all on the men.

TotalANXiousNESS said:

Oh, and Carrie, I think you look great. Love becomes you!

awww.... Thanks, Dani!

As for the rest, hot is in the eye of the beholder. My idea of "hot" is different than the next person's and so on. And as others have said, your idea of "hot" changes over time.

Sure, there are some men who never progress past wanting a 20 year old, but they're in the minority.

lauralevesque said:

but before I go......One last topic:

Priorities!

my lord

http://www.plunderguide.c...cci-18.jpg

Deadcake said:

Visionnaire said:

there are also a shitload of young 20 year olds out there that can increase the mass & density of my dick within nanoseconds by just the way they look. Which makes 'em hot, on an instantaneous level.

If this is the definition of hot, then it stands to reason that it's the youth/fertility/genetics aspect doing the attracting - all the physical aspects that call attention to a woman's ability to bear children. It would then also stand to reason that hotness tapers off as signs of her fertility wane.

We do things to make ourselves appear to still be fertile (long after our ovaries have pushed out their last eggs), colour our hair, go to the gym, wear push-up bras etc. Call it mutton dressed as lamb, call it being the best we can be. Whatevs, same thing. If "hotness" defined this way is to determine whether a woman will be a suitable vessel for a man's seed, with desirable genes to make your kids awesome, then you can't really argue with biology.

AND Jennifer Anniston can't possibly hot, she would most likely need IVF to conceive at her advanced age so there's your answer. As soon as you are over 30, if you have your first baby, the hospital calls you an elderly primigravida

and yet, she was voted hottest woman on earth

Luckily it seems to have nothing much to do with fertility most of the time

As lifespans lengthen, things like this has to change, IMO. People don't stay with the same partner all their lives, lives are just tooooo loooooooong for that! I think we are evolving to remain attractive to the opposite sex in ways other than just fertility.

Someone touched on the marrying plain janes aspect earlier, I'd like to expand on that

Men instantly want to fuck a hot chick - easy explanation (see above) and some men are simply walking life support systems for their dicks

if a woman is not hot, then there have other things (aside from youth/fertility/genes) she has going on that makes her attractive, right?

What are they? what men are the ones going down that road? Ones intimidated by a woman's hotness? Ones that fear a hot woman will not be faithful?

I love these topics so much to think about!

so hotness is just about fertility or getting someone to wanting to shagg you? men wanna shag most things. the girls/women most men have shagged in their lives are normal looking at best. why? bcos most women/girls are average. also, havin a nice body cant be hot if you have a dog face or worse and theres plenty of that as well. noone can argue the biology factor but most people, even now tho its changing, date and marry people of their own age.

another thing, why do women only feel powerful when they have men gopping at them? theres nothing wrong with beign attractive- ive never had problems with male attention AND its never been a priority or preoccupation of mine.

about marrying plain people- they make better partners bcos they never have same amount of oppurtunities to mate with others, and espe]ecially in males, they behave better. "beta males" make the best spouses- they are more inclined to stray and a naturally better with relating to women and children. also more attractive people and people who feel their attractive even if they aren't tend to be more self interested and selfish.

(the last paragraph has also been proven in studies and several books are available. Dr. helen shaver/ sheraer or something like that.)

alandail said:

I agree, she is gorgeous! And still HOT!

I think it's complete bullshit that a woman can't be hot over 35...what?

One's "hotness" is really not determined by age in many cases. It is determined largely by one's genes. If you are blessed with great genes, probably add healthy diet and exercise to keep your body tight.....throw in some great style, carry yourself with a certain confidence.....You can catch any man's eye. I hardly doubt he would be trying to decide if you are over 35 or not before he wants to jump your bones. Many women are blessed enough that they actually look from a couple of years younger to decades younger than they actually are.

Yes we are being completely shallow and just talking about the physical of course. But many women over 35 still have the appearance of youth and vitality. It's still a mighty looooong way from droopy skin, sagging tits and thinning hair.

Besides, not all 20 somethings have great bodies and exude sexiness just because they are in their 20's. Many look like shit. They are 20 somethings who would love to look like some 30 somethings and 40 somethings that *I* know. It's totally an individual thing.

Someone said some people are late bloomers or something to that effect. Totally. Some people were awkard looking teens and insecure 20 somethings but as they grew older, they finally grew into their looks and actually looked better with age (I personally know a lot of women that fall into this category), became much more self aware and confident, had better style, worked on their bodies and all in all finally found their sexy....so what's stopping this woman from turning heads and bedding anyone she pleases just because she's over 35?

And yes there are a plethora of hollywood women over 35 who prove that women are "hot" over 35. But only to use as examples. That is not to say that they aren't real life women like that because they exist.

There are many people in the real world who may not have as much money and resources as celebrities do to maintain their respective "hotness" but are blessed with the same good genes it takes for one to remain "hot".

[Edited 12/23/11 15:12pm]

matthewgrant said:

betty white 80, 80sometin years old

and she is STILL HOT...

she aint never been a centerfold type

but she been hot sence before her days

on mary tyler more's show

Sept. 30, 2008 from Amistad / HarperCollins Publishers (she's now 76yrs)

pix taken 8/2011

yeah can be considered still 'hot.'

free2bfreeda said:

Sept. 30, 2008 from Amistad / HarperCollins Publishers (she's now 76yrs)

pix taken 8/2011

yeah can be considered still 'hot.'

AS WELL AS TINA TURNER...

lauralevesque said:

Can we still be hot in our 40's? 50's? Men, be honest! I know it depends on the woman

Yes.

if your a 40 year old man, do you want a 40 year old woman? Or do you just want the 20 year old?

I can think of two 60-year-olds that I find extremely shaggable.

JustErin said:

chocolate1 said:

Not for everyone.

Yes, things change, but not everything is downhill.

(There are people under 35 who have an uphill battle...)

With age (for some) comes a more refined sense of taste, and the resources to "make it happen".

I was out reecently and ran into someone I went to high school with. He didn't recognize me because he said that I look way better than I did back then...

Even with the extra pounds, gray hair, and other "things", I am more confident and self-assured... which translates into "hot".

But like painted said, "So many people do not have to think you are "hot"... just the right person."

Hey, awesome if you guys all think you're just as (or more) hot now then you were when you were younger.

I know when I was considered "hot" by most men and it was waaaay before I hit 35...and I fully accept that. I think most women peak in attractiveness between 30-35, then all that good starts to go bad. It's kind of depressing but there is nothing you can do about it.

So cheerful

You should meet some of the women in my family who are over 35, that will put a dead end of that notion in your head

Harlepolis said:

JustErin said:

Hey, awesome if you guys all think you're just as (or more) hot now then you were when you were younger.

I know when I was considered "hot" by most men and it was waaaay before I hit 35...and I fully accept that. I think most women peak in attractiveness between 30-35, then all that good starts to go bad. It's kind of depressing but there is nothing you can do about it.

So cheerful

You should meet some of the women in my family who are over 35, that will put a dead end of that notion in your head

One of my older sisters just hit 50+ this year and she is stunning. Great skin, long legs, no wrinkles and breasts still in place. I think it really depends on the person, their gene pool and often how well they care for themselves.

lavender1983 said:

I think it's complete bullshit that a woman can't be hot over 35...what?

One's "hotness" is really not determined by age in many cases. It is determined largely by one's genes. If you are blessed with great genes, probably add healthy diet and exercise to keep your body tight.....throw in some great style, carry yourself with a certain confidence.....You can catch any man's eye. I hardly doubt he would be trying to decide if you are over 35 or not before he wants to jump your bones. Many women are blessed enough that they actually look from a couple of years younger to decades younger than they actually are.

Yes we are being completely shallow and just talking about the physical of course. But many women over 35 still have the appearance of youth and vitality. It's still a mighty looooong way from droopy skin, sagging tits and thinning hair.

Besides, not all 20 somethings have great bodies and exude sexiness just because they are in their 20's. Many look like shit. They are 20 somethings who would love to look like some 30 somethings and 40 somethings that *I* know. It's totally an individual thing.

Someone said some people are late bloomers or something to that effect. Totally. Some people were awkard looking teens and insecure 20 somethings but as they grew older, they finally grew into their looks and actually looked better with age (I personally know a lot of women that fall into this category), became much more self aware and confident, had better style, worked on their bodies and all in all finally found their sexy....so what's stopping this woman from turning heads and bedding anyone she pleases just because she's over 35?

And yes there are a plethora of hollywood women over 35 who prove that women are "hot" over 35. But only to use as examples. That is not to say that they aren't real life women like that because they exist.

There are many people in the real world who may not have as much money and resources as celebrities do to maintain their respective "hotness" but are blessed with the same good genes it takes for one to remain "hot".

[Edited 12/23/11 15:12pm]

That bolded part right there is thr truth, indeed.

Cynthia Bailey- 44 Years Old

Tracey Edmonds- 44 Years Old

Nancy Wilson at a then age 40 in 1976-77

there are loads of gorgeous ladies over 40+ out there that are so beguiling they can put the young tenders to shame in a New York minute.

Ottensen said:

there are loads of gorgeous ladies over 40+ out there that are so beguiling they can put the young tenders to shame in a New York minute.

Agreed.

Tho I would not say "loads" nor "putting to shame in a minute", there most definitly are many gorgeous ladies over 40 out there.

Personally, I can find a certain amount of 'maturity' in a woman very attractive. But that does not necessarily depend on the woman's age....

[Edited 12/31/11 7:29am]

TotalANXiousNESS said:

Another thing. I think women set higher standards for themselves than men set for them. You can't blame it all on the men.

omg!! true true!

JoeTyler said:

TotalANXiousNESS said:

Another thing. I think women set higher standards for themselves than men set for them. You can't blame it all on the men.

omg!! true true!

I concur with this too. Many women do this. Much of all that "fashion, style, gossip, glitter and glamour" that many "girls" like so much, is also made by "girls"

Ottensen said:

lavender1983 said:

I think it's complete bullshit that a woman can't be hot over 35...what?

One's "hotness" is really not determined by age in many cases. It is determined largely by one's genes. If you are blessed with great genes, probably add healthy diet and exercise to keep your body tight.....throw in some great style, carry yourself with a certain confidence.....You can catch any man's eye. I hardly doubt he would be trying to decide if you are over 35 or not before he wants to jump your bones. Many women are blessed enough that they actually look from a couple of years younger to decades younger than they actually are.

Yes we are being completely shallow and just talking about the physical of course. But many women over 35 still have the appearance of youth and vitality. It's still a mighty looooong way from droopy skin, sagging tits and thinning hair.

Besides, not all 20 somethings have great bodies and exude sexiness just because they are in their 20's. Many look like shit. They are 20 somethings who would love to look like some 30 somethings and 40 somethings that *I* know. It's totally an individual thing.

Someone said some people are late bloomers or something to that effect. Totally. Some people were awkard looking teens and insecure 20 somethings but as they grew older, they finally grew into their looks and actually looked better with age (I personally know a lot of women that fall into this category), became much more self aware and confident, had better style, worked on their bodies and all in all finally found their sexy....so what's stopping this woman from turning heads and bedding anyone she pleases just because she's over 35?

And yes there are a plethora of hollywood women over 35 who prove that women are "hot" over 35. But only to use as examples. That is not to say that they aren't real life women like that because they exist.

There are many people in the real world who may not have as much money and resources as celebrities do to maintain their respective "hotness" but are blessed with the same good genes it takes for one to remain "hot".

[Edited 12/23/11 15:12pm]

That bolded part right there is thr truth, indeed.

Cynthia Bailey- 44 Years Old

Tracey Edmonds- 44 Years Old

Nancy Wilson at a then age 40 in 1976-77

there are loads of gorgeous ladies over 40+ out there that are so beguiling they can put the young tenders to shame in a New York minute.

Shit. Tracey Edmonds is too gorgeous! Why don't we hear about her more? that women is a phenom!

KingBAD said:

alandail said:

that's still hot...

it still floors me that Broccoli rejected her as a Bond girl! just plain ridiculous...

beautiful at 53yrs

Angela Bassett March 2011 Issue

her body is as beautiful as her smile. she's still hot, talented and fresh!

'Til about 6 AM!